From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 16:03:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC8716A421; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [204.121.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3F813C45D; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailrelay3.lanl.gov (mailrelay3.lanl.gov [128.165.4.104]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lAQG37bb031235; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:03:07 -0700 Received: from oppie-mail.lanl.gov (oppie-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.123]) by mailrelay3.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lAQG36to030144; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:03:06 -0700 Received: from [128.165.86.60] (p25dual1.lanl.gov [128.165.86.60]) by oppie-mail.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2A01F8003; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:03:02 -0700 (MST) From: James Harrison To: Chris In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0711260734tb0a46a3kac3b423bfd89582b@mail.gmail.com> References: <000701c82f89$fb9b40a0$0200a8c0@satellite> <4749FDE0.9030902@netscape.net> <474A9DCD.6020500@FreeBSD.org> <3aaaa3a0711260734tb0a46a3kac3b423bfd89582b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Los Alamos National Labs Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:03:01 -0700 Message-Id: <1196092981.3531.3.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-33.0.1.el5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: jamesh@lanl.gov X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Kris Kennaway , Tore Lund , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stability of FreeBSD 7 Beta 3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jamesh@lanl.gov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:03:10 -0000 On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 15:34 +0000, Chris wrote: > On 26/11/2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Tore Lund wrote: > > > Ivan Voras wrote: > > >> Dave wrote: > > >>> Hello, > > >>> How stable is FreeBSD 7 Beta 3? Is it near production are their any > > >>> outstanding issues? > > >> Probably no major bugs will be fixed between now and 7.0 so you might as > > >> well start using it now. > > >> > > >> It's "stable enough" like all .0 releases, meaning you should throughly > > >> test it for your own workload before using it in production. > > > > > > Just curious, what is the "official" forum for pre-release discussions? > > > I notice there are some threads on the "current" list, but it seems to > > > me that this is really "questions" stuff, since it is an upcoming release. > > > > freebsd-stable is probably best. > > > > > In any case, I tried the boot-only CD, and I was not able to install any > > > packages during the install process. Sysinstall aborted with Signal 11 > > > when trying to read INDEX from the ftp site. Pkg_add from the command > > > line seems to work, however, so it looks like I may get online from > > > 7.0-BETA3 tomorrow. > > > > That is expected, packages are not available until later in the release > > cycle. > > > > > Moreover, wasn't there supposed to be a new install program? I have > > > read some promising remarks about it, but it's certainly not part of > > > 7.0-BETA3. Personally, I would much rather type a long list of commands > > > than use the old, rickety sysinstall. > > > > One is in early development, but not even complete let alone ready to > > replace sysinstall. > > > > Kris > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Kris can I ask what sort of importance bugs that cause crashes (page > faults) are? > I reported 2 bugs before BETA1 both these bugs involved 7.0 getting a > page fault and of course then stop responding requiring a reboot yet > both PRs have had no response and both bugs are still present in BETA3 > I see minor issues been worked on such as responsiveness in desktop > use whilst issues that cause system crashes are left unattended. Is > FreeBSD primarily a desktop os now and thats the new path? > > Try this. > > Login to twice on ssh. > If not root su both to root. > using the 2nd tty do a watch -W on the first tty. > on the first tty type 'killall watch' > you have now crashed freebsd 7 and most probably a auto reboot timer > is counting down. > > Even typing reboot to reboot the server causes page faults. > > This is nothing to do with hardware very repeatable behaviour happens > for me on at least 4 different freebsd 7 servers, if I compile world > with -O not -O2 the default it stops reboot causing page faults on > some of the servers. > > Chris > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" This looks like your bug: >Description: when using the command killall watch with at least 1 active watch process running the kernel gets a page fault and reboots. Is the above the behaviour that's the problem, or is the behaviour you describe in your email the issue? I can confirm the stuff in your email, but haven't tried using killall watch when watch is using other options. James