From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 11:56:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F68106566B; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maho.nakata@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8B58FC0A; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maho.nakata@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so2835195wfd.7 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:56:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:message-id:to:cc :subject:from:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=23/qc6Ayp6BU/RFYWxMKjynuU2lqlQsozMEWyno1vl8=; b=D8ILMYNj6Ha2FTTrJtGMZv6HXahM3hDOAX+5KJ6nvBcEgRzyZ7JDIOjjjl/CYiakkI 4QGbqZuFXMQT16WanXfoYdfOi5Xg4muKaYGn4mPJ/6PwO0YIlsHVoFxJTKsHT/fjnie2 LcYblDNK02i2sGQDmVPbZ0qMXb+YcGI03txBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:message-id:to:cc:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ceaC2O65jNCK7pC+9kazb/79/BjyIRQdMvv3BuqmjK3BmPgl6Qq9VBPFOg5wEHuavh rB9jSFmPryH7Rg73q+YkIb3BcUE8O7OJ197gDHjBwIzSKfH5nPGpIjKeb/Z3oxDOr3nd tyTBDYwpx79ph7iH6blQsf0nEQ3fKR4vWr4t0= Received: by 10.143.31.4 with SMTP id i4mr3578724wfj.102.1236081375298; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rikad85.riken.jp [134.160.214.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm2552219wfi.1.2009.03.03.03.56.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:56:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: Maho NAKATA Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:55:21 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20090303.205521.193732154.chat95@mac.com> To: daichi@ongs.co.jp From: Maho NAKATA In-Reply-To: <49AD03C0.7080707@ongs.co.jp> References: <49A77F4A.2080508@ongs.co.jp> <20090303.164219.48483570.chat95@mac.com> <49AD03C0.7080707@ongs.co.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Tue_Mar__3_20_55_21_2009_186)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: java@freebsd.org, glewis@FreeBSD.org, toshi@ruby.ocn.ne.jp, leafy7382@gmail.com, jkim@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Japanese font conf for JDK16 to use IPA font X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:56:17 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Tue_Mar__3_20_55_21_2009_186)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi From: Daichi GOTO Subject: Re: Japanese font conf for JDK16 to use IPA font Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:17:36 +0900 > Maho NAKATA wrote: >> Daichi san >> Sorry for changing my mind...this is just suggestion. >> IPA font is good but license is too restrictive. > > NO. That is old information. Please check latest IPAfont license. > We can use it as default font right now I guess. Yes, I have checked the new one :) For me, "free" means we can also redistribute modified fonts; like IPA-mona-font http://www.geocities.jp/ipa_mona/ , M+ IPA font http://mix-mplus-ipa.sourceforge.jp/download.html and IPA fonts from FreeBSD ports (actually this is M+IPA font). Note that they still employes older licence, because newer license has restrictive clauses (第3条1). >> VLGothic is free font and ubuntu uses as user interface font. >> Fallback to VLGothic may useful for some environment. > > NO. I do not think so. > > Ubuntu use VLGothic as default Japanese font since license issue, > yes I know that. (JFYI, PC-BSD use it as default Japanese/Chinese > font too, because of 1CD size limitation.) But it is lead by > Ubuntu *BINARY PACKAGE SITUATION* and their license policy, that is > not affected to Ports Collection of FreeBSD. This part is correct. However, please aware that IPA font set is not a free one. Policies can be different between Linux distributions; Fedora won't be shipped with IPA fonts nor Ubuntu, etc. Situation is quite different from gcc; almost every distribution can include gcc, because it is a free software. it's okay but may result incompatibility issue. > So I believe that IPA font should be used as default Japanese > fonts on most situation, at least by Ports Collection. > How do you make of that? It depends. If you and colleagues want to use FreeBSD, that's okay. However if you work with other people who use Linux, it could result some conflict. In any case, if there is a Windows or MacOSX guy, we cannot avoid conflict :) At least VLgothic is a free one, and the worst case, it would be better to have a fallback to VLgothic if IPA font is not present. Best -- Nakata Maho http://accc.riken.jp/maho/ , http://ja.openoffice.org/ Nakata Maho's PGP public keys: http://accc.riken.jp/maho/maho.pgp.txt ----Security_Multipart(Tue_Mar__3_20_55_21_2009_186)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkmtGqwACgkQpcQqaPiEzfn+qwCeIF5NUG6/boj/xZHFPzhLMYD2 d6AAoLTlH+pVu7UYIoDeeOHtcSkhJtKQ =IJBh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Tue_Mar__3_20_55_21_2009_186)----