From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 21 23:03:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD2F16A40F for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2BB43D58 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:03:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from fl-71-54-28-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net ([71.54.28.212] helo=kt.weeeble.com) by pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GbPs5-0006ek-00; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:03:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:03:15 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: Josh Paetzel Message-Id: <20061021190315.7aa63143.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <200610200847.25039.josh@tcbug.org> References: <20061019194046.GA35135@xor.obsecurity.org> <200610200816.k9K8GcBu063508@lurza.secnetix.de> <200610200847.25039.josh@tcbug.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras Subject: Re: FreeBSD branches stats X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:03:24 -0000 On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:47:24 -0500 Josh Paetzel wrote: > On Friday 20 October 2006 07:33, Ivan Voras wrote: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > http://bsdstats.org/releases.php > > > > Hmm, these stats look garbled to me. There are even some > > nonsensical data - versions 1.x and 9.x. > > > > My suggestion is to the creators of bsdstats to group version > > numbers by OS type (FreeBSD/NetBSD/others) since the current > > display seems unusable. > > > > Personally I've never had a very high opinion of the whole bsdstats > thing. And while the merits of the whole thing might be debatable I > think it's pretty obvious that the implimentation of it is poor at > best. I think the page referenced may include "release" numbers from all the reporting machines regardless of operating system. Better numbers from the relatively small sample can be found at http://www.bsdstats.org/freebsd/releases.php which tally up to the totals for FreeBSD listed on the main page. I find the number of 2.x systems a little puzzling though. The rest seem somewhat reasonable to me. I think seeing what hardware is being used is interesting and may have some future benefits but as it stands, I think there is some abuse by script kiddies going on. I'm sure things will improve as it progresses if Marc continues to work on it. Randy --