Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:23:33 -0400 From: Coleman Kane <cokane@one.net> To: Mike Muir <mmuir@es.co.nz> Cc: Coleman Kane <cokane@one.net>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx Message-ID: <20000725182333.B7611@cokane.yi.org> In-Reply-To: <397DD213.D83F9156@es.co.nz>; from mmuir@es.co.nz on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 01:45:16PM -0400 References: <20000725043919.26222.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> <20000725133538.A6627@cokane.yi.org> <397DD213.D83F9156@es.co.nz>
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The 3dfx cards do work under FreeBSD, just not using glide. XFree86 4+ uses DRI to accomplish its 3D acceleration. If you want to use glide games through linux emulation, you can either run them as root (not acceptable many times, at least for me :), or you will be able to use them with this driver once it gets the last bugs worked out. It works fine for Voodoo1's and 2's, just have some trouble with the resource setup on the Voodoo 3's. As far as the NVidia binary drivers go, I don't think they are planning any releases for FreeBSD. Personally, I don't want to endorse this sort of behavior from manufacturers like NVidia giving out binary-only drivers. I don't buy their cards because of that, and also because I can't afford them. There is a small amount of total IP that can be gotten from reading source code, and it is too small for a company to bother trying to parse through to understand. They'd wate too much time trying to figure it out, that it wouldn't matter once they were done. Anyway, I don't want to go out on a rant about lame business practices, the basic idea here is no, NVidia doesn't provide binary only drivers for FreeBSD, and we don't really care for the idea of closed source drivers. Closed source drivers just make it a pain for everyone to get work done from installation to associated programming (say, extensions to the drivers). I'm not gonna go into a holy war here or reveal what I think they are closing them for, but basically, they are not expected to come ever. You can simply use the included on in XFree86 4.0.1, which I think supposrts DRI. Mike Muir had the audacity to say: > > Coleman Kane wrote: > > > > XFree86-4 has been updated to the newest version. It has a kld named > > tdfx.ko that must be installed into /modules/. When you load X, it will > > load dri, agp, and tdfx all for you. There is also a 3dfx.ko to work > > with /dev/3dfx. This is provided to support device accesses for glide > > programs, like quake3 and all. It currently has some issues with the > > Voodoo3 and Banshee hardware, but I could use another tester. It is part > > of -CURRENT, and will most likely panic your box, but some output sent > > to me about the crash would be helpful. Actually, if anyone has an old > > agp 3dfx card they'dl ike to donate for this development, it would be > > helpful. I have been testing it with my voodoo2 board with much success, > > but I have had some responses from users with Voodoo3's that say that > > they haven't gotten it to work. > > What about Nvidia's 5.xx linux driver effort... what kind of effort > would be required to get that running on FreeBSD? > > -mike > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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