From owner-freebsd-java Fri Apr 20 10:37:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from smtp5ve.mailsrvcs.net (smtp5vepub.gte.net [206.46.170.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C55137B43E; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gatgul@voicenet.com) Received: from voicenet.com (adsl-141-155-116-72.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [141.155.116.72]) by smtp5ve.mailsrvcs.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA25131026; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:45:15 GMT Message-ID: <3AE073CA.181ACED4@voicenet.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:37:14 -0400 From: Uncle George X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-4 alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Williams Cc: Maxim Sobolev , nate@FreeBSD.org, java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: java for FreeBSD/alpha References: <3AD882C5.EEEC722@voicenet.com> <3ADC3018.9D9F7E08@FreeBSD.org> <15068.24769.146325.318029@nomad.yogotech.com> <3ADC7EBD.A5D5FE7E@voicenet.com> <15068.25961.466201.569075@nomad.yogotech.com> <3ADC831A.720F92CC@voicenet.com> <15068.27106.728509.935881@nomad.yogotech.com> <3AE059B6.2F002CB5@voicenet.com> <15072.23328.902845.309887@nomad.yogotech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nate Williams wrote: > > that a single 500mhz, 21164 processor ( akin to a pent II maybe, where > > the newer 21264 alpha chip has a sorta "doubler" ) with 4 gig disk. > > Sounds right. > > > did u folks get a JIT with the java src code ( even if it is for the > > i386 ) . > > Well, we got the Solaris JIT for Sparc, but that's part of the stock > download. Otherwise, we don't have a JIT. (Unlike the Blackdown folks > who got a JIT for x86 only.) Is it in SRC form? or just the standard binary distribution. If its written in generic 'c', then maybe there is a chance to get it to go. I think that metrolink had at one time a generic JIT - i suppose u have to fill in the blanks for each CPU architecture. u also need to sign a NDA for it. I dont know if its still avail. > > > > I suppose this would mean that SUN is treating u like the commercial > > guys, and not giving u crippled code. > > I get early drops and the whole nine-yards. Unfortunately, because Sun > didn't own the early JIT (it was sub-licensed from Symantec), they don't > give out source code to it. > > > I'm curious as to why SUN does not want to support u folks > > with a JCK. > > We have access to the JCK. What we don't have is a binary distribution > license. > You dont ? then why would anybody want to work on this project IF its very likely that the end results will never see "light of day" . I originally thought u had license to distribute ( ie a bin license ) but no JCK to test like it once was with NON-COMMERCIAL licensees. do u have a (written) promise of a bin distribution license if u pass all of the JCK tests ? > > > would it be possible to also get the Java3D code. I'd also like to > > complete that code so I can get into the vrml/java code that some > > folks have been doing. If not, i'll have to go the the i386/linux side > > of things :{ > > We'd need a port to the Alpha before any of that was done. :( > Does that mean that Java3D is avail ( or contemplated ) for the i386/bsd port ? There are native routines that need to be ported, otherwise it would be listed as a "pure java" product. > > Nate Any official (officious) BSD/Java web site that u folks use to distribute info/binaries of the project ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message