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Date:      Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:38:50 +0200
From:      Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen@ose.nl>
To:        Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?
Message-ID:  <4FF730BA.7050703@ose.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20120706202558.2a6d7e42.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On 07/06/2012 08:25 PM, Polytropon wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:47:27 +0200, Bas Smeelen wrote:
>> On 07/06/2012 07:28 PM, Robert Huff wrote:
>>> Ryan Coleman writes:
>>>
>>>>    > Anyway just don't make slices at all if your disk is dedicated
>>>>    > to FreeBSD
>>>>    
>>>>    Except for swap, right?
>>> 	Why do you say that?
>>>
>>>
>>> 				Robert huff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I think Ryan means partition and not slice?
>> I would not recommend no slices at all, It's deprecated to use
>> "dangerously dedicated disks"
> First of all, it's "dedicated disks", there's nothing dangerous
> related. :-)

Hi Polytropon
I got this from the docs somewhere, let me search
Ah the FAQ
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#DANGEROUSLY-DEDICATED

I don't think it's dangerous either.
Thanks for your explanations.

>
> If you are using the MBR approach ("old way"), you can do
> either creating a "DOS primary partition", a slice, which
> then will contain your partitions: a swap partition and
> one or more UFS partitions. So you have ad0s1a, ad0s1b
> and so on.
>
> When you omit the slice and create the partitions on the "bare
> disk", you have a dedicated layout. FreeBSD will run with
> it without any problem. It _may_ be possible that some
> systems like "Windows" have trouble with this approach,
> but if you're going to use FreeBSD only on that disk, there
> is no danger, no problem. You have ad0a, ad0b and so on.
>
> If you are using the GPT approach ("new way"), you create
> partitions using a different tool set, setting them to be
> a file system or a swap partition. You end up in ad0p1,
> ad0p2 and so on. Note that those aren't "DOS primary
> partitions" anymore, outdated systems may not properly
> recognize them.
>
> If you label your partitions (you can do that with both
> approaches), you don't need to deal with device names at
> all.
>
>
>
>> Starting with 9 I don't see slices in mount ouput anymore but still
>> there are FreeBSD partitions in slices (which is a partitions in dos terms)
>> Example / is now disk0p1 it used to be disk0s1a
> Correct, this relation can be constructed.
>
>
>
> To OP:
>
> If you omit the slice and just create two partitions (one for
> FS and one for swap), FreeBSD will use this fine. Just make
> sure to set the boot parameters properly. Or simply use the
> GPT-related tools, so you don't have to deal with the question
> at all.
>
>
>
>




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