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Hi Andrey,

talking about names. I was always curious where my name originates from.

I know it must be somewhere in Poland or Belarus.

Do you have an idea?

Erich

Andrey Smirnov wrote:
> Gary Kline wrote:
> 
>>
>>     Well, (Gary said, ddeliberately changing the ^Subject:),
>>     interesting. My mother's parents are from Hungary, two of my
>>     dad's grandparents from  Germany. 
>>     Didn't know about Hungary (or Japan).  China, yes.  Anybody     on 
>> this geek list know any other societies where the surname     is 
>> traditionally presented first and the given name last? 
> 
> 
> In Russia, in all official documents name is written:
>     Family_Name First_Name Middle_Name
> 
> So, my full name would be:
>     Smirnov Andrey Andreevich
> 
> In short form, we usually put first name in head of family name (surname):
>     Andrey Smirnov
> This feels less official.
> 
> So, it's sometimes hard to find out what is what if you don't know 
> Russian names well.
>