From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Dec 4 03:28:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19518 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 03:28:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19503 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 03:27:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23613; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:27:30 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id MAA28159; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:27:30 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19981204122730.V18661@follo.net> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:27:30 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Allen Smith Cc: Jun-ichiro itojun Itoh , Andreas Klemm , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can we just come to a decision on IPv6 and IPSec? References: <9812032354.ZM6453@beatrice.rutgers.edu> <685.912751012@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <685.912751012@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 09:56:52PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 09:56:52PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I believe IPsec just ran into a larger problem... parts excerpted for > > fair use. The Wassenaar countries include the home countries of all > > the IPsec participants, so far as I know. > > I think it's too early to say. Let's just get the technology in place > and worry about the export issues, whatever form they may have that > month, later. If we do it the other way around, we'll never get to > the point where we have any technology worth exporting in any case and > the entire point will be somewhat moot. Just to bring in another point: A group of people I'm part of just initiated contact with the Norwegian Foreign Ministry (export division) and got the new norwegian rules. They have a very interesting twist: They disallow export of anything with stronger than 56-bit crypto, but have a deliberate exception for 'software for general consumption', with a definition of 'software for general consumption' that seem to only fit Open Source (normal commercial software does _not_ fit it). Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message