From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Jul 15 21:36:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA59FC46B5 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EBBB8084D; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (v-critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9801B1AF3DF; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x6FLaeL8014323 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:36:40 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x6FLadVD014322; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:36:39 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Ian Lepore cc: Ryan Moeller , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Resetting console on boot In-reply-to: <1eab7d6a8ab3bb3670402ea888f223023841b98a.camel@freebsd.org> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <1eab7d6a8ab3bb3670402ea888f223023841b98a.camel@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <14320.1563226599.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:36:39 +0000 Message-ID: <14321.1563226599@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4EBBB8084D X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of phk@critter.freebsd.dk designates 130.225.244.222 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=phk@critter.freebsd.dk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.01 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.70)[-0.701,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.897,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.54)[0.537,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[phk.freebsd.dk]; IP_SCORE(0.06)[ip: (0.10), ipnet: 130.225.0.0/16(0.05), asn: 1835(0.15), country: EU(-0.01)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:36:50 -0000 -------- In message <1eab7d6a8ab3bb3670402ea888f223023841b98a.camel@freebsd.org>, I= an Le pore writes: >Your "sane" is my "who f*cked with my terminal setup?", = I agree in principle, but right now some combinations of our loaders leave a serial terminal with a scrolling region set and that is f*cked on an absolute scale... -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .