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Date:      Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:23:24 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
To:        Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!
Message-ID:  <v04220815b4745c03e538@[195.238.21.204]>
In-Reply-To: <199912081856.KAA06231@mass.cdrom.com>
References:  <199912081856.KAA06231@mass.cdrom.com>

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At 10:56 AM -0800 1999/12/8, Mike Smith wrote:

>=20 The right attitude to be taking now is "here is where the ata drivers
>=20 still fall down" or "here are patches to them to replace this
>=20 functionality".  Think about the longer-term goals here folks.

	I understand where Julian is coming from.  In fact, my initial=20
reaction was the same.  However, I have reluctantly been converted to=20
be in agreement with Mike and S=F8ren (among others).

	This is -CURRENT.  It pains me to say it, but anyone trying to=20
run anything "useful" on -CURRENT gets what they deserve.  This is=20
the only place where we can make clean breaks with the past, and as=20
painful as that can be, we simply have to do that occasionally.


	I'm sure this isn't necessary amongst this group of people, but=20
I'll quote from <http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html>=20
anyway:

>>	18.1.1. What is FreeBSD-current?

	[ ... deletia ... ]

>>=20                                          While many of us
>>	compile almost daily from FreeBSD-current sources, there are
>>	periods of time when the sources are literally un-compilable.

--=20
=20  These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy
=20 ____________________________________________________________________
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