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Date:      Mon, 29 Aug 2016 15:10:50 +0300
From:      Arto Pekkanen <isoa@kapsi.fi>
To:        Jan Bramkamp <crest@rlwinm.de>
Cc:        freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: making X secure?
Message-ID:  <1d9ef92a1920ad1e9aee92d2d56a5349@kapsi.fi>
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Need good documentation on how to make X11-application run inside a jail 
with a local X11 server. Afaik there's no comprehensive guide for this 
setup.

Jan Bramkamp kirjoitti 29.08.2016 11:51:
> On 28/08/16 14:30, Jules Gilbert via freebsd-x11 wrote:
>> Is this possible?, can X be made secure??
>> 
>> I need X for the Mozilla application family.  Are those weak from a
>> security perspective?
>> 
>> At the moment I'm doing other stuff and (this may be a foolish
>> thought...,) would accept a quick fix.  Probably a really bad idea, I
>> know.  But someone who's apparently good at this has hacked several
>> releases of FreeBSD and OpenBSD.  About OpenBSD, as soon as one adds
>> (for me, necessary,) applications, it's not as advertised.
>> 
>> Okay, one more time.  Can X be made secure?
> 
> X.org has an enormous attack surface and compromising the X11 server
> can allow you to capture all user input (including passwords). You can
> run a nested X11 server to reduce the attack surface and gain some
> defense in depth. You can also run Firefox and/or Thunderbird in a
> jail. The next step would probably be shipping audit records to a
> remote system with auditdistd. You can further lock down the jail with
> MAC modules if you like to play a few rounds of whack a mole with your
> applications.
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Arto Pekkanen



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