From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 29 20:42: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.utexas.edu (wb3-a.mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 401FF1529A for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: (qmail 18881 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 1999 03:42:00 -0000 Received: from dial-51-53.ots.utexas.edu (HELO nomad.dataplex.net) (128.83.113.149) by umbs-smtp-3 with SMTP; 30 Sep 1999 03:42:00 -0000 From: Richard Wackerbarth To: Garrett Wollman , Jim Bloom Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:29:23 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <37F2BA3C.D54CC74B@acm.org> <199909300124.VAA02039@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <199909300124.VAA02039@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99092922415900.64838@nomad.dataplex.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > I believe this must be fixed. > > There is no way it can be ``fixed''. That's Just The Way It Is. I'm > sorry that you're having a problem with this. Nobody ever said > keeping -current would be easy. I have to agree with Rod that we need to fix the tools so that there is a transition. IMHO, it is unacceptable to expect EVERYONE to "jump" to the new scheme by installing a new kernel. There is nothing fundamental in the toolset which SHOULD care about the underlying kernel. Compilers, loaders, etc. are just programs that operate on the contents of files. Think of compiling the 4.0 system on a 3.3 system as a simpler case of cross compiling. I should be able to compile FreeBSD 4.0/alpha on a FreeBSD 3.3/i386 system. Someone compiled the new system on an old one. The tools that they used should be available as a "compatability" tool to make the transition. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message