From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Mar 4 08:24:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28922 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:24:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from att.com (cagw1.att.com [192.128.52.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28753 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sbabkin@dcn.att.com) From: sbabkin@dcn.att.com Received: by cagw1.att.com; Wed Mar 4 11:16 EST 1998 Received: from dcn71.dcn.att.com (dcn71.dcn.att.com [135.44.192.112]) by caig1.att.att.com (AT&T/GW-1.0) with ESMTP id LAA05177 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by dcn71.dcn.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:25:37 -0500 Message-ID: To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org, karl@mcs.net Cc: grog@lemis.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, blkirk@float.eli.net, jdn@acp.qiv.com, tlambert@primenet.com, wilko@yedi.iaf.nl Subject: RE: SCSI Bus redundancy... Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:25:35 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ---------- > From: Karl Denninger[SMTP:karl@mcs.net] > > > > I wrote a white paper at Oracle some years ago, claiming that > databases > > over a certain size simply cannot be backed up. I became very > UN-popular > > very quickly. In you moderate setup, you already see the proof of > > corectness. > > Correct. I consider any "regular" filesystem with more than 4G of > data on > Databases are not regular filesystems. They have little number of big files. > it to be unrestorable, simply because there isn't enough time to do > the > restore and not get skewered. > Save it to tape as an image of logical disk. Restore it in the same way. With things like OnlineJFS you can even do save it online. -SB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message