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Date:      Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:20:14 +0100
From:      Michael Tuexen <tuexen@fh-muenster.de>
To:        "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bz@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net>, Bryan Venteicher <bryanv@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <john@baldwin.cx>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r272886 - in head/sys: netinet netinet6
Message-ID:  <7A28D39E-7C21-4081-83E0-656F8082D525@fh-muenster.de>
In-Reply-To: <88ADFC71-FD44-4012-9814-1771D31646FF@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201410100609.s9A690NU067686@svn.freebsd.org> <54AC6F4E.1000707@FreeBSD.org> <CAGaYwLezj6J8AJKFo9wbw3Z-gf8=ip418E%2BvPqr09AZ3f7hsbQ@mail.gmail.com> <6173473.uE5Sr5nj0c@ralph.baldwin.cx> <88ADFC71-FD44-4012-9814-1771D31646FF@FreeBSD.org>

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> On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:42, Bjoern A. Zeeb <bz@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
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>> On 12 Jan 2015, at 15:51 , John Baldwin <john@baldwin.cx> wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, January 06, 2015 07:07:11 PM Bryan Venteicher wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org> =
wrote:
>>>> On 1/6/2015 4:00 PM, Bryan Venteicher wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:52 PM, John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net
>>>>>=20
>>>>> <mailto:lists@jnielsen.net>> wrote:
>>>>>   Bryan-
>>>>>=20
>>>>>   On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Bryan Venteicher =
<bryanv@freebsd.org
>>>>>=20
>>>>>   <mailto:bryanv@freebsd.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> Author: bryanv
>>>>>> Date: Fri Oct 10 06:08:59 2014
>>>>>> New Revision: 272886
>>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/272886
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>> Add context pointer and source address to the UDP tunnel callback
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> These are needed for the forthcoming vxlan implementation. The
>>>>=20
>>>> context
>>>>=20
>>>>>> pointer means we do not have to use a spare pointer field in the
>>>>=20
>>>> inpcb,
>>>>=20
>>>>>> and the source address is required to populate vxlan's forwarding
>>>>=20
>>>> table.
>>>>=20
>>>>>> While I highly doubt there is an out of tree consumer of the UDP
>>>>>> tunneling callback, this change may be a difficult to eventually
>>>>=20
>>>> MFC.
>>>>=20
>>>>>   I noticed this comment while doing an MFC of vxlan to my local =
tree.
>>>>>   Do you think an MFC to 10-STABLE of this change (and vxlan
>>>>>   generally) will be feasible? Is there precedent for ABI changes =
like
>>>>>   this being sanctioned? Could symbol versioning help?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I'd like to get some consensus on whether this commit is OK to =
MFC. With
>>>>> this commit, vxlan should be an easy to MFC.
>>>>=20
>>>> Breaking ABI will potentially hurt packages. FreeBSD builds =
packages for
>>>> the oldest supported release on a branch. If you break ABI in 10.2 =
while
>>>> we are building packages for 10.1 then any packages using these
>>>> interfaces may not work right or result in panics packages with =
kmods.
>>>> Please consider that.
>>>=20
>>> The only user visible change of this commit would be the addition of =
a
>>> field at the end of 'struct udpcb'. I don't think that is a problem, =
at
>>> least a similar change didn't prevent the MFC of UDP Lite.
>>>=20
>>> The kernel part of this changes the UDP tunneling functions which I =
guess
>>> there could be a 3rd party module out there, but I very highly doubt =
that,
>>> based on how un-useful the previous interface was.
>>=20
>> Userland should not be impacted by this at all.  (Nothing in userland =
cares
>> about udpcb's internals.)  I think there was only ever one consumer =
for the=20
>> existing UDP tunneling code (bz@ knows what it is).  I'm not sure =
where it=20
>> lives.
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> If you are talking about u_tun_func then it came from SCTP over UDP =
tunneling.  tuexen and rrs are your friends.
rrs implemented it to support SCTP over UDP over IPv[46]. To be more =
precisely, to
receive such packets.

Best regards
Michael
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> I was wondering if it could be used similarly for IPsec UDPencap but I =
think that went nowhere back then.
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> =E2=80=94=20
> Bjoern A. Zeeb                                  Charles Haddon =
Spurgeon:
> "Friendship is one of the sweetest joys of life.  Many might have =
failed
> beneath the bitterness of their trial  had they not found a friend."
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>=20
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