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Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 and the sheer number of problem reports
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Hi,

On Friday 24 February 2012 15:34:06 Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Erich Dollansky <
> erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Friday 24 February 2012 04:21:12 Peter Maloney wrote:
> > > Am 23.02.2012 21:15, schrieb Mark Felder:
> > > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:25:01 -0600, Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd> wrote:
> > Let me suggest this.
> >
> > Currently, we have on the disk normally two kernels. The current one and
> > the last one. Why not add a third one called testing?
> >
> > Add then an entry into the boot menu that users can switch between the
> > current kernel and a kernel they just installed for testing.
> >
> 
> Well, as you would want to test both kernel + userland its get a bit tricky
> on ufs based system, as you have to setup several slices/partitions. For
> ZFS its easier, as the only thing required would be a snapshot of clean
> install, which the user then can just zfs recv, modify vfs.root.mountfrom
> and so on.
> 
/usr/local for the current system and
/usr/localtest for the other system.

Of course, the same for /bin, /etc ...

It is not that difficult.

Or a script which renames the directories for the next start.

Erich