From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 19:04:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F44516A423 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:04:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3511A43DD5 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:04:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from lm741n.had1.or.comcast.net. (c-24-20-8-31.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.20.8.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20051205190410014008iojve>; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:04:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:04:05 -0800 From: Rob To: freebsd Message-Id: <20051205110405.0e2402c4.europa100@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <439470B3.9080305@daleco.biz> References: <20051205073251.2a80b45f.europa100@comcast.net> <439470B3.9080305@daleco.biz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: spontaneous reboots/ what causes these in general? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:04:41 -0000 On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:54:11 -0600 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Rob wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I am experiencing occasionally spontaneous reboots. They > >seem to occur when I am using Xorg and Mozilla. However, the > >last time it happened I exited Mozilla, started Gnumeric, then > >when I tried to exit Gnumeric Xorg locked up and the machine rebooted. > > > >I couldn't find any messages in the logs relating to this. > >I have noticed, however, that Mozilla creates zombie processes. > >Even in Windows I have that problem with Mozilla. Maybe I need > >to find another WWW browser, but some of the others are based on Mozilla. > > > >How should I go about debugging the problem? > > > > > > Umm, "very carefully"? ;-) > > Just a few thoughts: > > 1. Try running Mozilla from a terminal, so that output > can be viewed/reviewed when it crashes. Better yet, > capture the output with script(1) or creative use of > shell redirection, etc. > > 2. How's your swap space? > > 3. You assert there's "nothing in the logs" --- not > that I'm calling your dumb, but are you sure? What > about the X server logs? (I only ask because, on occasion > I've mailed the list saying "I checked the logs" and all > I really meant was "I checked /var/log/messages..." > > 4. Can you cause a crash by running some (other) > heavy load ... for example, buildworld ? Overheating > components, though rare (perhaps), often are responsible, > as you may well already be aware. > > Sorry for my "grasping at straws". Good luck! > > Kevin Kinsey > DaleCo, S.P. > > -- > Apathy Club meeting this Friday. > If you want to come, you're not invited. > > The idea of running Mozilla or Firefox from a terminal was a very good one. I am getting an error message: (Gecko:40685) Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?) I will run that by one of the mozilla.or lists. But I am very curious what causes FreeBSD to reboot immediately? Do renegade apps overwrite some forbidden memory space? Or do these things come about via crappy bios? I am wondering that as Gentoo Linux often will not make it through the ACPI part of the boot process, so that it takes a couple of boots before it goes all the way through. I am using an HP zd8000 laptop. I have been compiling ports with the -O -pipe -mtune=pentium4. I am using FreeBSD 6.0 release off of the iso CD. I should probably cvsup to stable and make buildworld. That might eliminate some variables. Rob.