From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 02:11:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A53621 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 02:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBD3F20E8 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 02:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r962BYpr031462 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 04:11:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5250C6D6.6040602@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 04:11:34 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions FreeBSD Subject: Qcad port error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 02:11:49 -0000 Hello list! When trying to build qcad I get this error; ===> Configuring for qcad-3.2.1.0 /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e "s|%%DATADIR%%|/usr/local/share/qcad|" /usr/ports/cad/qcad/work/qcad-3.2.1.0/src/core/RSettings.cpp cd /usr/ports/cad/qcad/work/qcad-3.2.1.0 && /usr/local/bin/qmake-qt4 -r Reading /usr/ports/cad/qcad/work/qcad-3.2.1.0/src/src.pro Reading /usr/ports/cad/qcad/work/qcad-3.2.1.0/src/3rdparty/3rdparty.pro Project ERROR: Script bindings not available for Qt version 4.8.2. You can add them to src/scripting/qt-labs-qtscriptgenerator-4.8.2 or use another version of Qt. *** [do-configure] Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/cad/qcad. There is other ports that is broken like multimedia/audacious among others. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 03:51:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487461A0 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 03:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efeldhusen.lists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x236.google.com (mail-qe0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0946E24CD for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 03:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 1so562608qec.41 for ; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 20:51:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=z8x9f51SYDN6++CngJE/+pie2xW6UJsM60xvzs4HSYY=; b=B8venT4hNnHYfkuAXNEvhwujEkjWt3YTR/qCFcsgcsoLoaf47xvdR2pWaggIUKOOy5 mBf4YGDhgKpgRT8DyWajITLBOifkTDsEHilP7+eKD/V07XYEXOXLTZ9cpyN/YQ0XxoP5 pIAcZGdIAddswk8uHOpp1hmKhtejo/RkvUp/hDD/qDz2yIcf63kb6AIXAwH8O7iKQsld quk+xSwFQJq2uoWdFfe6J2LlkHDnFE7k1gc8YzRDVSgOa2WsTU5rjmVXOxXFb76SA971 B15GG6j+FLkouHeLRA8XjrlU5ZvImBIu12wxRxvz4frSFx0jLgK5WF7HpiuSVoYIF4rA QpiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.81.237 with SMTP id d13mr27655464qey.44.1381031515162; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 20:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.231 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 20:51:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20131005224132.baf52b18.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <525069AD.7040505@FreeBSD.org> <20131005224132.baf52b18.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 23:51:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problem completing a 9.1 release to 9.2 release upgrade From: Eric Feldhusen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 03:51:56 -0000 I figured I'd walk through those steps from start to finish and just correct my main problem and any other little glitches I might have. I'm on step 6 and when I run mergemaster -p, I get the following error. *** Creating the temporary root environment in /var/tmp/temproot *** /var/tmp/temproot ready for use *** Creating and populating directory structure in /var/tmp/temproot /usr/bin/install: Undefined symbol "gid_from_group" *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot copy files to the temproot environment I found this thread on the Freebsd forums http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=41779 with the same error and if I do the same diagnostic steps of truss install -d -g wheel ~/testdirectory I find an error of lstat("/usr/local/etc/libmap.d",0x7fffffffb990) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' Any suggestions? Thank you for the help thus far. Eric On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 16:00:25 -0400, Eric Feldhusen wrote: > > I see my /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC is a 9.2 kernel, so I should > just > > be able to do a > > > > cd /usr/src > > make buildworld > > make installworld > > reboot > > > > and I'll be running up on the 9.2 kernel and then I'll be all set? > > No. You should follow the procedure mentioned in the > comment header of /usr/src/Makefile. From my (old) > b-STABLE system: > > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source > tree). > # 2. `make buildworld' > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is > GENERIC). > # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is > GENERIC). > # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] > # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader > prompt). > # 6. `mergemaster -p' > # 7. `make installworld' > # 8. `make delete-old' > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or > -F). > # 10. `reboot' > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them > anymore) > > Pick what you need to do. When kernel and world sources are > in sync, a new kernel can always be installed in multi-user > mode. To install world, you should drop to single-user mode > to avoid interferences with a full-featured system running > in the "background". This procedure (or parts of it) will > also work when you have been using freebsd-update to modify > your kernel, world, and sources. > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 02:37:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AA075A for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 02:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreinicolae1994@yahoo.com) Received: from nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0B122185 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 02:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.233] by nm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2013 02:37:24 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.83] by tm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2013 02:37:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2013 02:37:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1381027044; bh=OdW5d3vRdFXn8+vi6XtV2Tb9lVkTjoT41kfOhAowdfU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Message-Id:Date:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=zd6CwzgDGQxOq8iKQE2l8K8yv1FKdX98/QGtc4Lxicyw5aHsX76Q3pwiye3I9VE44g738sfGdQZcSIDAAh259l4/VMh1hnD/FQMRAfyXUy/4hrFKa6me4/YMV5qrUvXwjwHzFIsaVy4P/ahk2OkmqBfgUZ3H5CB6vJilcApxcgE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 885492.88046.bm@smtp120.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: geUqGb0VM1kxN9TgpK8gIm1_dPK_m7RT3cUKO93ryZTFWB4 03HrWNSA3U5rXFr4TUxjMVvK0na5qsja_t_8.VmwAoUSOngfcL0NgGarww_2 De7ELuoxQG19mLGzlFtc9Vnhxza5cy41tNUCg5fTmRczYCnDSIGVo4Vt6e50 9iYRf83SaIjqC63BitaOpSOMicYqO7fKUhGCsBcbqznfYjPGWMOwcPjA2TId Fn1sYtpf7S.z6HScQR4YvFsFVJ_V14uvhpFCJZXHenALT10rjIda.baTd7sZ hprc1dRi6tQRyzi3Q.6GuCXg4FmK2eXyWS6P3AOnu53K7.qBTV9y0WtDEyt_ Yy2o47v3OOQxRp6VIiLVCYVC1qu1Q0WLuI.40odk7rYc_r_UeblfP1MZzZCH w5WrNYjf8ePFKMPrHDVTM7lVcoj0e_jJ5KZW.trwit27HD_mI6UTT7x1hRXP B.mQjpsty_iEyw5g8ew12Rf1duUddNhUyRjrmmZ8YxmI_52OrRzxDy_K3pnm 5WmhnnpomFSnef9dueYilS.58jz94OdU- X-Yahoo-SMTP: bsRhZyeswBCUnbX2rC9RKYdHxxC09mDcEK0RYEmW X-Rocket-Received: from [10.80.5.43] (andreinicolae1994@212.201.44.243 with ) by smtp120.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Oct 2013 02:37:24 +0000 UTC From: Andrei-Mihai Nicolae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: GSoC 2014 Message-Id: <2B44A84A-E8BC-4A1A-95B7-0C4C0B7F3C5B@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 04:37:40 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 04:31:20 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 02:37:33 -0000 Dear Sir/ Madam, I am writing to you regarding the Google Summer of Code. 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Yours faithfully, Andrei-Mihai Nicolae= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 06:36:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23914935 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 06:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wd@us-webmasters.com) Received: from super.grabweb.com (super.grabweb.com [64.237.47.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B454829F2 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 06:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13035 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2013 02:29:24 -0400 Received: from batv-01-092.dsl.netins.net (HELO Erika.US-Webmasters.com) (207.199.193.92) by 64-237-47-169.constant.com with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 6 Oct 2013 02:29:23 -0400 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 01:29:19 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "W. D." Subject: Why no "ls" on DVD or livefs.iso? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20131006063608.23914935@hub.freebsd.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 06:36:08 -0000 Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. Very limited commands: "ls: not found". Why? What good are these disks if they don't have the most basic of commands? Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. Want to use "recoverdisk", but can't get the=20 command line to work. Any ideas? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D # clone a hard disk recoverdisk /dev/ad3 /dev/ad4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=20 Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $9.99 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 06:58:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5A4DD4 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 06:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE5CE2AB4 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 06:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-65.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8E423CA00; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 08:58:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r966wUtU002128; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 08:58:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 08:58:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "W. D." Subject: Re: Why no "ls" on DVD or livefs.iso? Message-Id: <20131006085830.cbfa52bf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131006063608.23914935@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20131006063608.23914935@hub.freebsd.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 06:58:46 -0000 On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 01:29:19 -0500, W. D. wrote: > Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. > > Very limited commands: "ls: not found". Try /rescue/ls explicitely instead. > Why? What good are these disks if they don't have > the most basic of commands? Only live systems offer more than the "holographic shell" when booted properly. FreeSBIE has been a very good live system in the past, but the current installers also allow you to drop into a working shell environment at a very early stage (from within bsdinstall). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall/bsdinstall-choose-mode.png This dialog should bring you into a working shell. I've been using it myself for disk initialization with a FreeBSD 9.1 CD. > Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number > of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. A good approach. If possible, try to obtain a 1:1 copy of the disk (or partition) and work with that. Check the mailing list archives for further inspiration. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 07:08:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA24EE6 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 07:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F7562B1E for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 07:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9678gnn074881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Oct 2013 08:08:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r9678gnn074881 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r9678gnn074881; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) Message-ID: <52510C7A.6030102@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 08:08:42 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Problem completing a 9.1 release to 9.2 release upgrade References: <525069AD.7040505@FreeBSD.org> <20131005224132.baf52b18.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131005224132.baf52b18.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KJh7cHnlE4UHH1pNUNCe9bV6go6D8DN9u" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Eric Feldhusen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 07:08:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --KJh7cHnlE4UHH1pNUNCe9bV6go6D8DN9u Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/10/2013 21:41, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 16:00:25 -0400, Eric Feldhusen wrote: >> I see my /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC is a 9.2 kernel, so I should= just >> be able to do a >> >> cd /usr/src >> make buildworld >> make installworld >> reboot >> >> and I'll be running up on the 9.2 kernel and then I'll be all set? >=20 > No. You should follow the procedure mentioned in the > comment header of /usr/src/Makefile. From my (old) > b-STABLE system: >=20 > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source = tree). > # 2. `make buildworld' > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DYOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is G= ENERIC). > # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=3DYOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is G= ENERIC). > # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] > # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader pr= ompt). > # 6. `mergemaster -p' > # 7. `make installworld' > # 8. `make delete-old' > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U = or -F). > # 10. `reboot' > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them a= nymore) >=20 > Pick what you need to do. When kernel and world sources are > in sync, a new kernel can always be installed in multi-user > mode. To install world, you should drop to single-user mode > to avoid interferences with a full-featured system running > in the "background". This procedure (or parts of it) will > also work when you have been using freebsd-update to modify > your kernel, world, and sources. >=20 Errrmm... The OP is maintaining his system using freebsd-update -- just building and installing a replacement kernel from the source tree installed via freebsd-update is in fact perfectly OK and a supported way to manage a FreeBSD system. While you are quoting the official instructions from /usr/src/UPDATING here (so they are completely correct in that sense) these are the instructions to do something rather different to what the OP intended. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --KJh7cHnlE4UHH1pNUNCe9bV6go6D8DN9u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iKYEARECAGYFAlJRDHpfFIAAAAAALgAoaXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3Bl bnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEI1NTUyQTk2Mjc0RUQyNDg1NzM0MEVCNEYw QzhFNEU3NjBBRTkwOEMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxEkQCdEg3CZHs9MEp13LNM5OYQKLHS VZkAn1KqrW3fWi8QXfM9X+rcihmn2VNg =8JzR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KJh7cHnlE4UHH1pNUNCe9bV6go6D8DN9u-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 07:17:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A160DFE8; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 07:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BEAA2B73; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 07:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-65.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A66413C730; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 09:17:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r967HADv002186; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 09:17:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 09:17:10 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Problem completing a 9.1 release to 9.2 release upgrade Message-Id: <20131006091710.d8da7f4c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52510C7A.6030102@FreeBSD.org> References: <525069AD.7040505@FreeBSD.org> <20131005224132.baf52b18.freebsd@edvax.de> <52510C7A.6030102@FreeBSD.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Eric Feldhusen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 07:17:18 -0000 On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 08:08:42 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/10/2013 21:41, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 16:00:25 -0400, Eric Feldhusen wrote: > >> I see my /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC is a 9.2 kernel, so I should just > >> be able to do a > >> > >> cd /usr/src > >> make buildworld > >> make installworld > >> reboot > >> > >> and I'll be running up on the 9.2 kernel and then I'll be all set? > > > > No. You should follow the procedure mentioned in the > > comment header of /usr/src/Makefile. From my (old) > > b-STABLE system: > > > > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). > > # 2. `make buildworld' > > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > > # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > > # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] > > # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). > > # 6. `mergemaster -p' > > # 7. `make installworld' > > # 8. `make delete-old' > > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). > > # 10. `reboot' > > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) > > > > Pick what you need to do. When kernel and world sources are > > in sync, a new kernel can always be installed in multi-user > > mode. To install world, you should drop to single-user mode > > to avoid interferences with a full-featured system running > > in the "background". This procedure (or parts of it) will > > also work when you have been using freebsd-update to modify > > your kernel, world, and sources. > > > > Errrmm... The OP is maintaining his system using freebsd-update -- just > building and installing a replacement kernel from the source tree > installed via freebsd-update is in fact perfectly OK and a supported way > to manage a FreeBSD system. That is true. But if I understand the question (as quoted above) correctly, installing world from source has been involved, that's why my suggestion of following the instructions (or a subset of them, as it applies). > While you are quoting the official instructions from /usr/src/UPDATING > here (so they are completely correct in that sense) these are the > instructions to do something rather different to what the OP intended. I've copied the the instructions from the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile (at least on my outdated system at home they're there). Of course if the _only_ problem of the initial question is to install a custom kernel, with an otherwise updated system using freebsd-update (with world, kernel and sources in sync), just installing a custom kernel from within multi-user mode is fully supported by the system. This implies that only a small subset of the quoted instructions would apply here (steps 1 and 3 - 5), after freebsd-update has been finished successfully. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 07:44:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A4C79A for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 07:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 398952CA9 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 07:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r967iBg5075673 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Oct 2013 08:44:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r967iBg5075673 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1381045451; bh=lGiCWsx9uHyiFQTUCJ8r49AZDK/7uu8LijVU5ngmb+A=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2006=20Oct=202013=2008:44:04=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20Eric=20Feldhus en=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd. org|Subject:=20Re:=20Problem=20completing=20a=209.1=20release=20to =209.2=20release=20upgrade|References:=20=20<525069AD.7040505@Fr eeBSD.org>=20=20<20131005224132.baf52b18.freebsd@edvax.de>=20| In-Reply-To:=20; b=MgMOx5SaiVIdRwzsqsqKD3qr3OIQguReJVQQaTKB1YbYXNNSxK6y82MxE4PDKnI/6 tX+TAIfodtQ+KJlfOubSP4POt0ifz4efUxQtCHnDkhs40JijKH+i7AX8MDiv3qF3K4 UxSVGUJ9wcLjR5AyLuiO7FCOLxD1TLR0JD4R0XiU= Message-ID: <525114C4.1020801@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 08:44:04 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Feldhusen Subject: Re: Problem completing a 9.1 release to 9.2 release upgrade References: <525069AD.7040505@FreeBSD.org> <20131005224132.baf52b18.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ceAv3LwdtPj4UvpQ2fNx6baVwuCsAQLj7" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 07:44:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ceAv3LwdtPj4UvpQ2fNx6baVwuCsAQLj7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/10/2013 04:51, Eric Feldhusen wrote: > I figured I'd walk through those steps from start to finish and just > correct my main problem and any other little glitches I might have. >=20 > I'm on step 6 and when I run mergemaster -p, I get the following error.= >=20 > *** Creating the temporary root environment in /var/tmp/temproot > *** /var/tmp/temproot ready for use > *** Creating and populating directory structure in /var/tmp/temproot >=20 > /usr/bin/install: Undefined symbol "gid_from_group" >=20 > *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot copy files to the temproot environment >=20 > I found this thread on the Freebsd forums > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D41779 with the same error = and if > I do the same diagnostic steps of >=20 > truss install -d -g wheel ~/testdirectory >=20 > I find an error of >=20 > lstat("/usr/local/etc/libmap.d",0x7fffffffb990) ERR#2 'No such file= or > directory' >=20 > Any suggestions? Thank you for the help thus far. The 'undefined symbol' error means you have a binary which is somehow not dynamically linking against the shared libraries it was compiled to use. As install(1) has pretty simple dynamic library usage -- just libmd and libc: # ldd /usr/bin/install /usr/bin/install: libmd.so.5 =3D> /lib/libmd.so.5 (0x800822000) libc.so.7 =3D> /lib/libc.so.7 (0x800a33000) =2E.. and libmd.so just contains code for computing various checksums, nothing to do with groups and GIDs. This suggests that your libc.so is somehow incompatible with your /usr/bin/install. Which really shouldn't be the case given that you'ld previously used freebsd-update to upgrade your userland to 9.2-RELEASE. Things to double check: * you haven't been faffing about with /etc/libmap.conf -- that file or any file it includes should basically be empty except in quite unusual circumstances. Remember folks: libmap is not your solution of choice. It's what you turn to when there are no other viable alternatives. * Your freebsd-update really has been updating the source tree you attempted to upgrade from. Check /etc/freebsd-update.conf. By default it contains: # Components of the base system which should be kept updated. Components src world kernel If you don't have src in there your buildworld procedure will at best be trying to take you back down to 9.1-RELEASE-p???, and at worst trying to create some unholy mixture of 9.2 kernel with earlier bits of the system. I think you should be able to recover to a system managed via freebsd-update by something like: # vi /etc/freebsd-update.conf { Make sure you're getting 'src world kernel' components as shown above } # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update install but I haven't tested that so ICBW. In any case, this should get you back to the state where you have a 9.2-RELEASE world but your modified 9.1-RELEASE kernel. If you still need a custom kernel then you can build and install it like so: # cd /usr/src # make KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL buildkernel # make KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL installkernel and reboot. Otherwise, I'm not sure exactly how you'ld revert from a custom kernel to the standard generic kernel you'ld normally get via freebsd-update. What I'd try is moving aside my customized kernel and re-running freebsd-update: # cd /boot # mv kernel kernel-MYKERNEL # freebsd-update install If that creates a new /boot/kernel and populates with a new kernel and many loadable modules then you're golden. If not, move your saved kernel back into place (mv kernel-MYKERNEL kernel) and ask here again. The 'no such file or directory' error for /usr/local/etc/libmap.d thing is a false problem: /usr/local/etc/libmap.d is an optional directory -- all you are seeing is install(1) trying to open it and discovering that it doesn't exist. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk --ceAv3LwdtPj4UvpQ2fNx6baVwuCsAQLj7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iKYEARECAGYFAlJRFMtfFIAAAAAALgAoaXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3Bl bnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEI1NTUyQTk2Mjc0RUQyNDg1NzM0MEVCNEYw QzhFNEU3NjBBRTkwOEMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwXPACgiFteys0VL+a6zoCZW9fN0JOu auAAnA+yVYRD9d+p6wOVzJKLJxj7byec =lWhq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ceAv3LwdtPj4UvpQ2fNx6baVwuCsAQLj7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 12:51:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119F05B1 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 12:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71D2289D for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 12:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP158 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 6 Oct 2013 05:50:11 -0700 X-TMN: [yXU1awLyaVGQK4S08GcdtZgJeYEboYsl] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP158.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 6 Oct 2013 05:50:09 -0700 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ct4RN6gKRz2CG4M for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 08:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 08:50:08 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Subject: Error messages when booting up machine and starting KDE X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2013 12:50:09.0818 (UTC) FILETIME=[973527A0:01CEC292] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 12:51:17 -0000 I have observed these messages being written to the system log when initially booting up the machine and then starting KDE. Oct 6 08:16:09 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Activating service name=3D'org= .freedesktop.ConsoleKit' (using servicehelper) Oct 6 08:16:09 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Activating service name=3D'org= .freedesktop.PolicyKit1' (using servicehelper) Oct 6 08:16:09 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Successfully activated service= 'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' Oct 6 08:16:09 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Successfully activated service= 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' Oct 6 08:16:09 scorpio console-kit-daemon[5917]: WARNING: kvm_getenvv fail= ed:=20 Oct 6 08:17:32 scorpio console-kit-daemon[5917]: WARNING: Error waiting fo= r native console 1 activation: Device not configured Oct 6 08:18:13 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Activating service name=3D'org= .freedesktop.UPower' (using servicehelper) Oct 6 08:18:13 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Successfully activated service= 'org.freedesktop.UPower' Oct 6 08:18:14 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Activating service name=3D'org= .kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper) Oct 6 08:18:14 scorpio org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection= : system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may = misbehave. Oct 6 08:18:14 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Successfully activated service= 'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' Oct 6 08:18:20 scorpio kernel: pid 6286 (kwin_opengl_test)=2C uid 1001: ex= ited on signal 11 (core dumped) Oct 6 08:18:40 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Activating service name=3D'org= .kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper) Oct 6 08:18:40 scorpio org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection= : system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may = misbehave. Oct 6 08:18:40 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Successfully activated service= 'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' Oct 6 08:18:46 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Failed to activate service 'or= g.freedesktop.Avahi': timed out Oct 6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: module.c: module-detect is deprec= ated: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect! Oct 6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp0' doesn't s= upport full duplex Oct 6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp1' doesn't s= upport full duplex Oct 6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp2' doesn't s= upport full duplex Oct 6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp3' doesn't s= upport full duplex Oct 6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp6' doesn't s= upport full duplex Oct 6 08:18:56 scorpio pulseaudio[6352]: pid.c: Daemon already running. I am particularly interested in the two "WARNING" messages (5 & 6)=3B the "core dump" (item 12)=3B the "timed out" (item 16) and the last one=2C although that one appears to be harmless. Is there something I should be doing to correct these apparent problems? --=20 Carmel =E2=9C=8C carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 13:53:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8DD6C6 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 13:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC0ED2B11 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 13:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r96Dlm85002016; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 07:47:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r96DllOc002013; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 07:47:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 07:47:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "W. D." Subject: Re: Why no "ls" on DVD or livefs.iso? In-Reply-To: <20131006063608.23914935@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <20131006063608.23914935@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 06 Oct 2013 07:47:48 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 13:53:54 -0000 On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: > Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. > > Very limited commands: "ls: not found". > > Why? What good are these disks if they don't have > the most basic of commands? The "emergency holographic shell" was always very limited. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h6sm44426118qej.4.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Oct 2013 07:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ct6c52LBhz2CG4M for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 10:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 10:27:48 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: No Sound from Firefox Message-ID: <20131006102748.741d86a5@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUAAABYRlwJCw4FAgAIBwKprDkBAQFQLR0BAgCir7VRttp8AAACAUlEQVQ4jZWUTYvbMBCGTVl8V2hX6Gg5G5FbWQdBj0lEfE7BhN4cyzi5Wt1E5L70roWy6N92xok/skkP+5IYrMcz78xIduDWpNM3vFzuA/jX5EY1AI6KHFwW/CzFuQAwqUBbV12p+CzIh6Awq7sg33pn5D64SQXAexffeuQlA/L35RrkaB551OjGfP/cAO8mCNaDcgvfky5ijoD0pAXlCQCnljiAjsJD9Ax05Ko5sZxbnLQcmM+dZg5IjREfZrWIHK0JuwU68pAGwHvfRxBundRzTxxz3r9dNUikPsEihjz2Dc4kjp1hKsJGuot4EDxaxzMoC7XqhxhOSfZrTS6gSX1JVdjp+o1PvWfekXgw3WL0g70nDEwA0H0HQsEZc8sTmFMTkWUfYWC/vdR1zQy3xLQgLwzu90QnlnFLjeiGWBjwhb4Sa42IqOg2qqS4O1/zhKokFUb1Q8Rj4Eb69WVflXEehJ35DgChVTE5n50eaGyMLOfH8AOodoSM4PVYAQgQdBulOa+knklYks3vAuQ+uX492lTl+A+e8qBV2AKoXalVKFfyuUp0pUp1ARaUHh82lv9MN+Ig7CZtgE6FNYvjlywT2VP2dMgOG46gTIWcqdfvuwyXNz0oMJNd/N5lh1YNiJt19ADTUo3VuFSNeQwVqRSrGjSCp53fk2g+Mvfk/gfoPxHeUS8MH9vRAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 14:27:51 -0000 Firefox has suddenly went silent. I can view videos on Youtube for instance, but there is no sound. If I save the video to dist and play it with MPlayer, there is sound. I did update several PHP modules the other day, but I don't know it that would have any effect on it. Also, on several sites, a video starts to load then a blank white area takes its place and that ends it. Any suggestions as to what might be the problem. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 14:35:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E5C112 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 14:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davemorgan353@btinternet.com) Received: from smtpout04.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (smtpout04.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk [65.20.0.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591742CFB for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 14:35:27 +0000 (UTC) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A090203.525174C8.004F, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=27/97, refid=2.7.2:2013.10.6.100619:17:27.888, ip=86.183.234.8, rules=__HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __CD, __IN_REP_TO, __USER_AGENT, __ANY_URI, __CANPHARM_UNSUB_LINK, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_MEDIA_BODY, __STOCK_PHRASE_24, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODY_SIZE_1700_1799, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[8.234.183.86.fur], HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __PHISH_FROM, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from localhost (86.183.234.8) by smtpout04.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.100.09) (authenticated as davemorgan353@btinternet.com) id 52502A2C0011F5E3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:33:44 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1381070127; bh=7/Z658l5HsYEbQwv2Jg2oOrjDApaNJ7LejJVXzS/1no=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=TFMM/Pfv63xcJV8jJhOdDOTw2i+WlPN/qVqk8rjtjB5IBegddT8chXeOCMys/dmMg+J22S/r5HNtHEyZX2Pdc03OefxCRKZpwR75wLPfJzPF3p5rnV7CoiTDX7NnvQ7nhOBzxXdqWAS35ecd+7vp4bOG33fjePL+h71qoHCzpmY= Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:33:38 +0100 From: Dave Morgan To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: No Sound from Firefox Message-ID: <20131006143338.GA814@Aliens> References: <20131006102748.741d86a5@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131006102748.741d86a5@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 14:35:27 -0000 --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/10/13 at 10:27am, Jerry wrote: > Firefox has suddenly went silent. I can view videos on Youtube for > instance, but there is no sound. If I save the video to dist and play > it with MPlayer, there is sound. I did update several PHP modules the > other day, but I don't know it that would have any effect on it. Also, > on several sites, a video starts to load then a blank white area takes > its place and that ends it. Any suggestions as to what might be the > problem. > > -- > Jerry =E2=99=94 > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. > Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. > __________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Hi, I think OSS support has been dropped from Firefox. -- Dave. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n9sm51634025qag.8.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Oct 2013 07:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ct7K03rkxz2CG4M for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 10:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 10:59:41 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: No Sound from Firefox Message-ID: <20131006105941.4590d615@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20131006143338.GA814@Aliens> References: <20131006102748.741d86a5@scorpio> <20131006143338.GA814@Aliens> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/u5UJO=EAdcoLB6UwJxLaoTh"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 14:59:51 -0000 --Sig_/u5UJO=EAdcoLB6UwJxLaoTh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:33:38 +0100 Dave Morgan articulated: > On 06/10/13 at 10:27am, Jerry wrote: > > Firefox has suddenly went silent. I can view videos on Youtube for > > instance, but there is no sound. If I save the video to dist and > > play it with MPlayer, there is sound. I did update several PHP > > modules the other day, but I don't know it that would have any > > effect on it. Also, on several sites, a video starts to load then a > > blank white area takes its place and that ends it. Any suggestions > > as to what might be the problem. > > > > -- > > Jerry =E2=99=94 > > > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. > > Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I think OSS support has been dropped from Firefox. Okay, so what exactly does that mean? --=20 Jerry =E2=99=94 --Sig_/u5UJO=EAdcoLB6UwJxLaoTh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSUXrkAAoJEF2rWD2do7dN2ZUH/39R5uwSr63T8abRZq5EoiPU 12uJgevwKBKvpXOKPY0vnFmpN7j+ptGj7ayyn5zVLrjxUW6MHm0ZlaNce69CVpvN iKHNQgW2UY1aUy8idaD2QSS8DfBF+3yNoJx5rTg2vwaDdet/El0q1B6n/1nNu6fU YzkVn8KwgsGeRs6TGT8rfyLgKAWJj5T+VKZXb18WarSODuBrJqlttSbo914yoDOH IFvzn+wrdQX/Tvb6dGDlCa5pluMfOFAvdoOa8c6THbQr5sZ73Vdm/+pAA38hnppD u1LoM/Q9WU9UbpzWyaJc4obmFTFh/6E6r3MhDQ4iI4vJTTXEVTyIX4zOHf1+OCs= =a+Ov -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/u5UJO=EAdcoLB6UwJxLaoTh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 15:12:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830E0243 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40B412F3D for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [88.217.87.252] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VSpVL-0003Y6-UM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 16:40:20 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r96EeHw4002967 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 16:40:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id r96EeG8a002966 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 16:40:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 16:40:16 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: No Sound from Firefox Message-ID: <20131006144016.GA2953@La-Habana> References: <20131006102748.741d86a5@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20131006102748.741d86a5@scorpio> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.87.252 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:12:59 -0000 El día Sunday, October 06, 2013 a las 10:27:48AM -0400, Jerry escribió: > Firefox has suddenly went silent. I can view videos on Youtube for > instance, but there is no sound. If I save the video to dist and play > it with MPlayer, there is sound. I did update several PHP modules the > other day, but I don't know it that would have any effect on it. Also, > on several sites, a video starts to load then a blank white area takes > its place and that ends it. Any suggestions as to what might be the > problem. Jerry, In my records about firefox && flashplugin I have about the no sound problem: no sound problem: see also http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-3353.html # cd /compat/linux/proc # ln -s libssl.so.0.9.8g libssl.so.5 HIH Vy 73 matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 17:59:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F456BC4 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 17:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qc0-x236.google.com (mail-qc0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4D2F273D for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 17:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id n4so4228917qcx.13 for ; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 10:59:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CoTgwYKhcKJs8MYJtJVP3P1y3cIt6VdnxKzR/rCBreo=; b=Pdyun4IFaa1rz1L9Y9gGWdD7gIrUAbfAXzwc7J2yTMo9gAlEahG3mkc3vZejDo7jv2 QHf/H5WCYaCtSkvZBHcieL9iWi7UnEyUQdeEv7fLRCr37IRS1S/SCdWxF7jlJFLoBnl9 wxdzZ9JZBbw6ejqlB0RkjHKhjaGsIZUt70sCg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CoTgwYKhcKJs8MYJtJVP3P1y3cIt6VdnxKzR/rCBreo=; b=hxGlkW9EvXnpN2nkGczokti8tmRLfHbXF2b3rJ0qgeYLvEGBQkckD4p/nuf0CXFBkD ha6m3PQ2ugjhUBQbPUgfpxWZc0hsax3ZAUAEuRFJFk/1y53NHo4HRv2L3Yq8RGoBDaKJ AadEsgZYg/pKFC4k0RFOorvb/owDtQpAlPA7KIBYto5Kz/P3MBu1l64dtZtksWEuWKSk J9//qST9J/MF7itn6W72PL1IEHDgPNcP1du7lZg6eqdE77jpA6wVFZMMoIyvBNcYXTRI 7Iib9v3s21J35t59eil2XbPsiL1OVhKKY7uG3rwSwwoE5ePgv2vaQ2vYD1sZuQtGqbPM 1f1w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn+At5/d/u7eUJ5oYcA+vfiJ36LYy4RGw+tGhCh8Pzy/E5Sk4RkuBy3dOWaNtQvCcrUS5+5 X-Received: by 10.49.50.198 with SMTP id e6mr2081145qeo.87.1381082350766; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 10:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h2sm45948947qev.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Oct 2013 10:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ctCHx2J7Yz2CG4M for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 13:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 13:59:08 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: No Sound from Firefox Message-ID: <20131006135908.2d80b3a2@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20131006144016.GA2953@La-Habana> References: <20131006102748.741d86a5@scorpio> <20131006144016.GA2953@La-Habana> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 17:59:12 -0000 On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 16:40:16 +0200 Matthias Apitz articulated: > El día Sunday, October 06, 2013 a las 10:27:48AM -0400, Jerry > escribió: > > > Firefox has suddenly went silent. I can view videos on Youtube for > > instance, but there is no sound. If I save the video to dist and > > play it with MPlayer, there is sound. I did update several PHP > > modules the other day, but I don't know it that would have any > > effect on it. Also, on several sites, a video starts to load then a > > blank white area takes its place and that ends it. Any suggestions > > as to what might be the problem. > > Jerry, > > In my records about firefox && flashplugin I have about the no sound > problem: > > no sound problem: > see also > http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-3353.html # > cd /compat/linux/proc # ln -s libssl.so.0.9.8g libssl.so.5 This is what I attempted to do: /compat/linux/proc # ln -s libssl.so.0.9.8g libssl.so.5 ln: libssl.so.5: No such file or directory /compat/linux/proc # locate libssl.so.5 /usr/local/lib/compat/libssl.so.5 /usr/local/lib32/compat/libssl.so.5 cd /usr/local/lib/compat /usr/local/lib/compat # cd /usr/local/lib/compat /usr/local/lib/compat # ln -s libssl.so.0.9.8g libssl.so.5 ln: libssl.so.5: File exists So where do I go from here? Do I force the link? -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 18:15:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D20278 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 18:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AAAE2827 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 18:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.135.6] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VSsrO-0003mN-D8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 20:15:19 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r96IFKeW000914 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 20:15:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r96IFJXb000913 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 20:15:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 20:15:18 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: No Sound from Firefox Message-ID: <20131006181518.GA853@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20131006102748.741d86a5@scorpio> <20131006144016.GA2953@La-Habana> <20131006135908.2d80b3a2@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20131006135908.2d80b3a2@scorpio> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r235646 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.135.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 18:15:22 -0000 El día Sunday, October 06, 2013 a las 01:59:08PM -0400, Jerry escribió: > > In my records about firefox && flashplugin I have about the no sound > > problem: > > > > no sound problem: > > see also > > http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-3353.html # > > cd /compat/linux/proc # ln -s libssl.so.0.9.8g libssl.so.5 Maybe this information above is outdated; when you run ff from a terminal, does it give any errors on playing flash on stderr/stdout? > This is what I attempted to do: > > /compat/linux/proc # ln -s libssl.so.0.9.8g libssl.so.5 > ln: libssl.so.5: No such file or directory > > /compat/linux/proc # locate libssl.so.5 > /usr/local/lib/compat/libssl.so.5 > /usr/local/lib32/compat/libssl.so.5 > > cd /usr/local/lib/compat > > /usr/local/lib/compat # cd /usr/local/lib/compat > /usr/local/lib/compat # ln -s libssl.so.0.9.8g libssl.so.5 > ln: libssl.so.5: File exists > > So where do I go from here? Do I force the link? 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Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 22:24:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391B0E0F for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 22:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pd0-x22e.google.com (mail-pd0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 153D82274 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 22:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f174.google.com with SMTP id y13so6287996pdi.19 for ; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:24:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xCFo/rmCbE/Wmel2cxL551ijgca/bKPeShCAinz2HS8=; b=nGlt/EU5mzhDmgY+e+kxaNWYz6cvfffPdB3Qz63Px38bG5msrIR/1N9mh3DYe94Z2Y o9B2+waaoUIbOyHMz1h89je3TwAdV8AKPZPHRLtaeh0V9EgHX88PDXwBkKMbcRuOcv3y 6wB40itGyiI1s0DWiiqrDS8/5BlPSdkb5rtOTz+wNWh08yGw3nnUXcZ5Cw2UkeWqzxaz 9rKi++2PlZ37U4xw13ROD2GwQfRJjGnhu/aN44YIdUg9bVlh1dD1Dim7XgGuQYPiekKM Ly/Cd7iie1qcLJTG5TFCynjKJkDc1Nyj2Xujluic/ZXdCkjhK1tOGxZn2OWjlyu5W8Uh AJTw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.119.172 with SMTP id kv12mr28188200pab.34.1381098267700; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.133.202 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:24:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20131006144750.GC6583@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20131006144750.GC6583@pcjas.obspm.fr> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 18:24:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Best 10Gbit/s card for FB 9.2 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Albert Shih Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 22:24:28 -0000 On 6 October 2013 10:47, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to known what is the best 10 Gbits/s copper ethernet card for > FreeBSD 9.2 on Dell hardware : > > I got on the Dell's website > > > > Broadcom 57800 2x10Gb BT + 2x1Gb BT Network Daughter Card > > Broadcom 57810 DP 10Gb BT Converged Network Adapter > > Intel Ethernet X540 10Gb BT DP + i350 1Gb BT DP Network Daughter Card > > Intel Ethernet X540 DP 10GBASE-T Server Adapter, Low Profile > It looks like (from grepping around) that the BCE578xx are only supported on FreeBSD 10 (bxe(4)). The Intel adapter looks to be supported on 9.2 as ixgbe(4) which is in the GENERIC kernel & so should (cross fingers) work "out of the box". -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 03:08:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FC369 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 03:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01DC52F67 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 03:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r97389mw068532; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 05:08:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <52522599.5010906@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 05:08:09 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: No Sound from Firefox References: <20131006102748.741d86a5@scorpio> <20131006144016.GA2953@La-Habana> <20131006135908.2d80b3a2@scorpio> <20131006181518.GA853@tiny.Sisis.de> <20131006153127.51c77ba8@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20131006153127.51c77ba8@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 03:08:20 -0000 On 2013-10-06 21:31, Jerry wrote: > $ /usr/local/bin/firefox > > (process:71385): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed > > This is all I could gather. > I get the same for firefox and thunderbird % firefox & [1] 37788 % (process:37788): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed % thunderbird & [2] 38745 % (process:38745): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed My guess it's related to glib. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 08:06:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13EFDBB for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (smtp-int-m.obspm.fr [145.238.187.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AD6A2BE9 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcjas.obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 07/2009) with ESMTP id r9786X3g030299 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:06:34 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:06:33 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: "illoai@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Best 10Gbit/s card for FB 9.2 Message-ID: <20131007080633.GA14740@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20131006144750.GC6583@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Miltered: at smtp-int-m.obspm.fr with ID 52526B89.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 52526B89.000/145.238.184.233/pcjas.obspm.fr/pcjas.obspm.fr/ Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 08:06:39 -0000 Le 06/10/2013 à 18:24:27-0400, illoai@gmail.com a écrit > On 6 October 2013 10:47, Albert Shih wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to known what is the best 10 Gbits/s copper ethernet card for > > FreeBSD 9.2 on Dell hardware : > > > > I got on the Dell's website > > > > > > > > Broadcom 57800 2x10Gb BT + 2x1Gb BT Network Daughter Card > > > > Broadcom 57810 DP 10Gb BT Converged Network Adapter > > > > Intel Ethernet X540 10Gb BT DP + i350 1Gb BT DP Network Daughter Card > > > > Intel Ethernet X540 DP 10GBASE-T Server Adapter, Low Profile > > > > It looks like (from grepping around) that the BCE578xx are only > supported on FreeBSD 10 (bxe(4)). The Intel adapter looks to be > supported on 9.2 as ixgbe(4) which is in the GENERIC kernel & so > should (cross fingers) work "out of the box". Lots of thanks. When I got my server I send here the result to confirm (or not) the support. Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex France Téléphone : +33 1 45 07 76 26/+33 6 86 69 95 71 xmpp: jas@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: lun 7 oct 2013 10:06:00 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 08:36:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D4F104 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kent.kuriyama@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3138B2E85 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id hj3so4382672wib.1 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 01:36:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+YIkbUx+Qjbf9huP6y24ChmugoIz/HdlDs/PNl2iJCc=; b=TaBn5s+ePxcZO4yPN2r1/cymnI45XZcSQJljWIfs5zpLezaRtRuu45P3kXSnEz4O+x lGCagIRVt6gXNEJdRRPckXcv9DVXF3/JmS8d07od9yquCCRhe+6d+QRbclAIIY0QjLsS /2A6ZMH+UjurSwQHbCZoxToED0NYu8iVEdi/UUNUbpZLPPCxOdzn6htAClc4e8R//o9E MFcy41KBm6aPq2B8cb9f/NxNM82j8+EIAbsTRS+x0RZmtd8OdRLkVt6bF+Tf1z0tKgKj xgt4iuTSroEbFd+DRvNwpbiQUz8CyQ3Y9VhmrzoeCV+ZuxYbmWvvSM02rQTzUZA2tquQ i/gw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.78.78 with SMTP id z14mr23222656wjw.32.1381134974509; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 01:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.18.239 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 01:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 22:36:14 -1000 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD 9.2 - does not appear to support the 'dc' PCMCIA NIC driver From: Kent Kuriyama To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 08:36:16 -0000 I have a Netgear FA511 PCMCIA NIC that worked fine under 9.1. Under 9.2 I get the following message: Oct 6 21:38:11 monitor4 kernel: dc0: port 0x1100-0x11ff irq 19 at device 0.0 on cardbus0 Oct 6 21:38:11 monitor4 kernel: dc0: attaching PHYs failed This used to work under 9.1, does anyone know what happened? Thanks. Kent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 08:47:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04EF527 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnrp@komkon2.de) Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (einhorn.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57B232F2B for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:47:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-From: gnrp@komkon2.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from adolfputzen (q827es.in-vpn.de [217.197.85.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id r978lQge014593 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:47:26 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:47:09 +0200 From: Julian Fagir To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: init(8) not executing everything cron, getty on some hosts Message-ID: <20131007104709.2d137cf9@adolfputzen> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/GJSr.eLqMsSCCz9cNhGr/Xc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 08:47:35 -0000 --Sig_/GJSr.eLqMsSCCz9cNhGr/Xc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've been experiencing a strange problem with one of my hosts (I think, sin= ce upgrading to 9.1-RELEASE). The host does not start several services after booting, especially no getty(8)s and no cron(8). When starting these servic= es manually, it does so without flaw (you can login via ssh). I thought about that maybe being a hardware failure, as this host also refuses to boot 9.2-RELEASE because of something timer-specific. Now, upgrading two other hosts to 9.2-RELEASE, one of them with the same hardware, they suddenly show the same behaviour: No getty(8)s are started (though by hand, it works), no cron (by hand, again, it works), and on one host no kdc (again, by hand you can start it). On the other hand, another host upgraded to 9.2-RELEASE behaves as it shoul= d, starting all services. On the console, there are no errors, there is just no further message after the last service (ntpd or sshd) is started. I don't think it's a hardware issue, as one of the three machines runs on different hardware than the other two (which are identical). Everything is as standard as possible. My ttys(5) is the standard one (comments and serial line left out): > console none unknown off secure > ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure > ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure > ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure > ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure > ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure > ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure > ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure > ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure =20 My rc.conf(5) (this should not affect starting gettys), the second host does not even have jails: > fsck_y_enable=3D"YES" > dumpdev=3D"AUTO" > ip_kerberos2=3D"XXX" > ip_ldap1=3D"XXX" > hostname=3D"XXX" > ipv4_addrs_bge0=3D"XXX $ip_ldap1 $ip_kerberos2" > defaultrouter=3D"XXX" > ezjail_enable=3D"YES" > jail_flags=3D"-s 3" > nfs_client_enable=3D"YES" > rpcbind_enable=3D"YES" > rpc_statd_enable=3D"YES" > rpc_lockd_enable=3D"YES" > kerberos5_server_enable=3D"YES" > saslauthd_enable=3D"YES" > saslauthd_flags=3D"-a kerberos5" > slapd_enable=3D"YES" > slapd_flags=3D'-c 147 -h "ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fopenldap%2fldapi/ ldap:/= // ldaps:///"' > slapd_sockets=3D"/var/run/openldap/ldapi" > slapd_sockets_mode=3D"666" > nrpe2_enable=3D"YES" > nut_upsmon_enable=3D"YES" > munin_node_enable=3D"YES" > sshd_enable=3D"YES" > ntpd_enable=3D"YES" > ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES" > fscd_enable=3D"YES" > bsdstats_enable=3D"YES" =20 Do you have any clues what could have gone wrong? freebsd-update's IDS does not show any wrong checksums. Regards, Julian --Sig_/GJSr.eLqMsSCCz9cNhGr/Xc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJSdQ0ACgkQc7h7cu1Hpp5pFQCgtCYgUoj4NYw2hTPw2xL6qa3c nlUAnjOU4lHzntvx2v1OOY8MPdqnD6ZO =xv5a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/GJSr.eLqMsSCCz9cNhGr/Xc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 09:15:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB966A71 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 09:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnrp@komkon2.de) Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (einhorn.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F3EB20BC for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 09:15:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-From: gnrp@komkon2.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from adolfputzen (q827es.in-vpn.de [217.197.85.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id r979F2JF018289 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:15:03 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:14:49 +0200 From: Julian Fagir To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: init(8) not executing everything cron, getty on some hosts Message-ID: <20131007111449.638d9cdd@adolfputzen> In-Reply-To: <20131007104709.2d137cf9@adolfputzen> References: <20131007104709.2d137cf9@adolfputzen> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/LqGJ+I_PdJ1iqYHhve1hGA8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 09:15:05 -0000 --Sig_/LqGJ+I_PdJ1iqYHhve1hGA8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:47:09 +0200 Julian Fagir wrote: > I don't think it's a hardware issue, as one of the three machines runs on > different hardware than the other two (which are identical). I have to update on that: The two servers with the identical hardware are t= he ones with the "real" issue. It's about a Proliant DL385 G1. The other one just got into an inconsistent state with the update, thinking it's with 9.2-RELEASE, but apparently not having upgraded anything. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g2sm61112230qaf.12.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Oct 2013 04:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ctfP55KkZz2CG4M for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 07:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 07:20:09 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: No Sound from Firefox Message-ID: <20131007072009.54702d0a@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <52522599.5010906@bananmonarki.se> References: <20131006102748.741d86a5@scorpio> <20131006144016.GA2953@La-Habana> <20131006135908.2d80b3a2@scorpio> <20131006181518.GA853@tiny.Sisis.de> <20131006153127.51c77ba8@scorpio> <52522599.5010906@bananmonarki.se> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 11:20:13 -0000 On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 05:08:09 +0200 Bernt Hansson articulated: > On 2013-10-06 21:31, Jerry wrote: > > $ /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > > (process:71385): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion > > `sys_page_size == 0' failed > > > > This is all I could gather. > > > I get the same for firefox and thunderbird > > % firefox & > [1] 37788 > % > (process:37788): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion > `sys_page_size == 0' failed > > % thunderbird & > [2] 38745 > % > (process:38745): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion > `sys_page_size == 0' failed > > My guess it's related to glib. I did a quick check with other users of FreeBSD & Firefox and they all reported the same thing. Either the error is harmless or the FreeBSD team doesn't give a crap about it. Either way, I would like to see some sort of an official statement on it. Something along the lines of why it cannot be corrected or is safe to ignore. A list of side effects would be nice to. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Peter Frampton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 12:01:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01F68BE for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 578192E1D for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r97BbWhF038135 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:37:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:37:35 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: How do I ring a bell? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:01:07 -0000 In the good'ol days I could make UNIX ring a bell (literally) by sending \a to the console TTY (an ASR33 in my case). Now there's an electronic synthesised ting or beep from an terminal emulator IF it's got a sound card and so on, and an IBM-PC had a beep routine in the BIOS. Is there any way to make a noise through the built in "bell" speaker found on an IBM PC compatible server box? Writing 007 to the BIOS cout routine might do it, but I've realised I haven't got a clue how to do that. I could easily knock up a bit of hardware to go on a serial port (or similar) that could be triggered to make a noise, but these things have already got the hardware built in and I'm looking to use what I've already got. Thanks, Frank. P.S. "cdcontrol -f /dev/mycdrom eject" is the best I've come up with so far for getting attention. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 12:33:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1269523A for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B822FE9 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.136] (helo=smtp5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VT9Zm-0000XR-1p; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:06:14 +0200 Received: from 5419839c.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.131.156] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VT9Zl-0005Rj-K8; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:06:14 +0200 Received: from ra.egypt.nl (localhost.egypt.nl [127.0.0.1]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620BD39877; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:06:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at boosten.org Received: from ra.egypt.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by ra.egypt.nl (ra.egypt.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vAT3IotEejjC; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:06:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mbp.egypt.nl (mbp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EAC9E39849; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:06:09 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? From: Peter Boosten In-Reply-To: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:06:07 +0200 Message-Id: References: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> To: Frank Leonhardt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Ziggo-spambar: ---- X-Ziggo-spamscore: -4.9 X-Ziggo-spamreport: ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, PROLO_TRUST_RDNS=-3, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:33:36 -0000 On 7 okt. 2013, at 13:37, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > In the good'ol days I could make UNIX ring a bell (literally) by = sending \a to the console TTY (an ASR33 in my case). Now there's an = electronic synthesised ting or beep from an terminal emulator IF it's = got a sound card and so on, and an IBM-PC had a beep routine in the = BIOS. >=20 > Is there any way to make a noise through the built in "bell" speaker = found on an IBM PC compatible server box? Writing 007 to the BIOS cout = routine might do it, but I've realised I haven't got a clue how to do = that. >=20 > I could easily knock up a bit of hardware to go on a serial port (or = similar) that could be triggered to make a noise, but these things have = already got the hardware built in and I'm looking to use what I've = already got. >=20 > Thanks, Frank. >=20 > P.S. "cdcontrol -f /dev/mycdrom eject" is the best I've come up with = so far for getting attention. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" echo "CTRL-V CTRL-G" should do the trick=20 --=20 Peter Boosten http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 12:36:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625AA306 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27D662010 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-65.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 136E43C3DD; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:36:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r97Cabqm002103; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:36:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:36:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? Message-Id: <20131007143637.653304bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> References: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:36:52 -0000 On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:37:35 +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > In the good'ol days I could make UNIX ring a bell (literally) by sending > \a to the console TTY (an ASR33 in my case). Ah, the famous ^G control character... :-) > Now there's an electronic > synthesised ting or beep from an terminal emulator IF it's got a sound > card and so on, and an IBM-PC had a beep routine in the BIOS. The terminal beep routine will primarily address the system's speaker (located at or connected to the mainboard). A side effect on the sound card is possible (the Logitech SoundMan did have that feature), but it's not really in relation. > Is there any way to make a noise through the built in "bell" speaker > found on an IBM PC compatible server box? Writing 007 to the BIOS cout > routine might do it, but I've realised I haven't got a clue how to do that. Making it audible is part of the local terminal emulator, either the TTY (text mode) driver or via xterm (or the preferred alternative terminal emulator in X). A simple printf "\a" from the shell prompt should be sufficient. Note that if you're running this in X, you have to make sure the bell is not disabled. For example, put xset b 100 1000 15 in your ~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession respectively). A more sophisticated interface is provided as soon as your kernel has device speaker compiled in (or speaker.ko has been loaded). Now you can play wonderful music through the speaker. :-) See "man 4 speaker" for details. See the following shell script as an example of what you can do: #!/bin/sh read -p "CW ===> " TEXT echo ${TEXT} | morse | awk '{ if(length($0) == 0) printf("P4\n"); else { gsub(" dit", "P32L32E", $0); gsub(" di", "P32L32E", $0); gsub(" dah", "P32L8E", $0); printf("%sP16\n", $0); } }' | dd bs=256 of=/dev/speaker > /dev/null 2>&1 Feel free to add support for reading from stdin so you can listen to your console messages piped into the script. :-) Always make sure that the system actually _has_ got an internal speaker! I assume that modern PC hardware could have it removed along with floppy drive connector, parallel port or power switch. > P.S. "cdcontrol -f /dev/mycdrom eject" is the best I've come up with so > far for getting attention. That's a really clever idea, never heared of that. It has the advantage of being permanent because the drive will stay open when the sound of its motor has finished. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 12:46:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49E3455 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18AB020C1 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r97CkppR053151 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:46:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <5252AD3D.7070703@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:46:53 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? References: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:46:54 -0000 On 07/10/2013 13:06, Peter Boosten wrote: > > On 7 okt. 2013, at 13:37, Frank Leonhardt > wrote: > >> In the good'ol days I could make UNIX ring a bell (literally) by >> sending \a to the console TTY (an ASR33 in my case). Now there's an >> electronic synthesised ting or beep from an terminal emulator IF it's >> got a sound card and so on, and an IBM-PC had a beep routine in the BIOS. >> >> Is there any way to make a noise through the built in "bell" speaker >> found on an IBM PC compatible server box? Writing 007 to the BIOS >> cout routine might do it, but I've realised I haven't got a clue how >> to do that. >> >> I could easily knock up a bit of hardware to go on a serial port (or >> similar) that could be triggered to make a noise, but these things >> have already got the hardware built in and I'm looking to use what >> I've already got. >> >> Thanks, Frank. >> >> P.S. "cdcontrol -f /dev/mycdrom eject" is the best I've come up with >> so far for getting attention. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > echo "CTRL-V CTRL-G" should do the trick > Alas, not. The console driver won't ring the BIOS bell on anything I've tried. It might on a desktop with a built-in sound card and speakers, but it won't do anything with the "beep" speaker. It's actually the same solution I mentioned in the first line (\a translates to 007 which is ctrl-G). Then there's the issue of writing it to the console rather than a virtual terminal, but I have a few hacks that'll achieve that part. IIRC there was once a FreeBSD kernel module to drive the PC speaker (through /dev/pcspeaker or similar), but it seems to have gone or I'm confusing it with another BSD (or Linux). No I'm not. /usr/src/sys/dev/speaker/spkr.c(!) I may be close to a solution... Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 12:51:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9765A8 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (uk1rly2283-a.eechost.net [217.69.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E552122 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VTAGg-0003vS-En for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:50:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1VTAHn-0005kX-Qb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:51:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:51:43 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? Message-Id: <20131007135143.9d8aaaf8d5f9d7e5bf956fec@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> References: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:51:52 -0000 On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:37:35 +0100 Frank Leonhardt wrote: > In the good'ol days I could make UNIX ring a bell (literally) by sending > \a to the console TTY (an ASR33 in my case). Now there's an electronic > synthesised ting or beep from an terminal emulator IF it's got a sound > card and so on, and an IBM-PC had a beep routine in the BIOS. Try this: echo ^G > /dev/console You'll have to type ^V^G to get a real ^G in the command line (^ means control of course). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 13:00:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F06A95 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D69ED21C1 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B305E1FA; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:48:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.965 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.965 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DOY-PeBBP4HY; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:48:31 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.111] (c224-156-70-80.bjare.net [80.70.156.224]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DB75E16B; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:48:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5252AD9A.7060807@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:48:26 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? References: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:00:48 -0000 Frank Leonhardt skrev 2013-10-07 13:37: > In the good'ol days I could make UNIX ring a bell (literally) by sending > \a to the console TTY (an ASR33 in my case). Now there's an electronic > synthesised ting or beep from an terminal emulator IF it's got a sound > card and so on, and an IBM-PC had a beep routine in the BIOS. > > Is there any way to make a noise through the built in "bell" speaker > found on an IBM PC compatible server box? Writing 007 to the BIOS cout > routine might do it, but I've realised I haven't got a clue how to do that. > > I could easily knock up a bit of hardware to go on a serial port (or > similar) that could be triggered to make a noise, but these things have > already got the hardware built in and I'm looking to use what I've > already got. > > Thanks, Frank. > > P.S. "cdcontrol -f /dev/mycdrom eject" is the best I've come up with so > far for getting attention. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You also have the audio/yell port. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm63463889eeh.8.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Oct 2013 06:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:31:31 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? Message-ID: <20131007143131.11669732@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <5252AD3D.7070703@fjl.co.uk> References: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> <5252AD3D.7070703@fjl.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:31:39 -0000 On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:46:53 +0100 Frank Leonhardt wrote: > Alas, not. The console driver won't ring the BIOS bell on anything > I've tried. It might on a desktop with a built-in sound card and > speakers, but it won't do anything with the "beep" speaker. Are you sure you have one? The last two cases I bought didn't. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 13:33:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE1369C for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (uk1rly2283-a.eechost.net [217.69.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D773123F6 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VTAux-0000Fj-8q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:32:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1VTAw4-000666-GK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:33:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:33:20 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? 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Do you have nscd caching enabled? It sometimes doesn't realize immediately that users/groups have been added to the system. Try restarting nscd, or disabling it temporarily while you install. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 17:57:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178FEC21 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33DF925BA for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.239] by nm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2013 17:57:32 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.93] by tm20.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2013 17:57:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp130.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2013 17:57:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1381168652; bh=Lup7iV9uiKbMUKgwx7PSRtSiAJNpEid+vQ8JGvnq7M0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:X-Mailer:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vQn7yiCIVR8hMbhc0vEb896TpJNycVVRZ2B0PggI8/g47nuV4P0lXHMjkZeOZYvkRXMORWB4mji67ybKfAe1HqNpLNLVUr7ZFu7QcnUdY0ON4RIW20I9sgE6c3qx4u7RxBb14BAJebVjwtMj0pTtCyJrE2jS5VdULGkfofkM6Nw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 321288.44462.bm@smtp130.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Ybvn0d4VM1kCr3e0Yzf9aV2eSvh0XlqK1bfv5YZEhBDgd1Y qVzQd0EZJVPBvoxgqmQtGBSyzrE3RS2FEJAbdHDIkBbVhFuWLUegVn0AgjGi fl9l3WxDx2eePdh1J0hp9JvYOlBH3CZpBgEWWqDaHqf_b59UGk.TCMvuZIZE 0TlS2SkhwZOvwScp.tp_0y4HOoj5D6dGqRcH.V3jFA8wZrC5ODUmfI7e4u9d OUD0RkaLGqbcpmNLPKHs7nUkIPpfItHMfT1GrZpNbNVjWA_g3tppJDL_Cqvu 0sEn5jlS8rxo7O158SfxjH062kJWyPbsaS2OnCxNTxRDjruPk5NhDvkwuDUx w07uPDFh.l2.NTkZIvAsKRCJ7LEmbp55mOJjjmUtyT6ZLydzDC9i.F.1aL4c 2B6KNzQ0Qnytz8hAPrYh_IIDsglSEcvXJwMAdayab295_pT1rWBaY8nWoWL5 qs9JdbAM.e.cfWfSx.eL8JQ6WBR4ApIyFVJbRLuJzJu2ksSxBYvX8oF0zhjJ gm9hH7DwH2EjcZs8xweHHhsSVmaOzgVfuFR.X X-Yahoo-SMTP: QwgFOT2swBC9RbEk7L61j8D8oTJpwuBOkZBcLzY- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.1.15] (laszlo_danielisz@80.98.102.209 with ) by smtp130.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Oct 2013 17:57:32 +0000 UTC Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:57:31 +0200 From: Laszlo Danielisz To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <12BA615C8BF048EAA9C5961448988DAF@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20131007155554.GB5343@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1380991485.82917.YahooMailNeo@web160503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20131007155554.GB5343@dan.emsphone.com> Subject: Re: munin related X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1176) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 17:57:40 -0000 Dear Dan, Yep killing nscd help me to get out of this trouble. Thank you very much! -- Laszlo Danielisz On 2013 October 7 Monday at 5:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Oct 05), Laszlo Danielisz said: > > Today while trying to install munin-node on 9.2 from ports I keep getting > > the following error: > > > > ===> Checking if sysutils/munin-common already installed > > ===> Creating users and/or groups. > > Using existing group `munin'. > > Creating user `munin' with uid `842'. > > pw: user 'munin' already exists > > *** [create-users-groups] Error code 74 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/munin-common. > > *** [build-depends] Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/munin-node. > > *** [build] Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/munin-node. > > > > > > Do you have any idea what can cause this? > > The ports are up to date. > > > > > Do you have nscd caching enabled? It sometimes doesn't realize immediately > that users/groups have been added to the system. Try restarting nscd, or > disabling it temporarily while you install. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com (mailto:dnelson@allantgroup.com) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org (mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org)" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 18:35:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DFAF2A for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2455A2878 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5610D21C89 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:35:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=4lZ+WzhzZ8Jnf5SGgyBQ3aCkAvk=; b=mJa rmUSAQTknUosBg05FMYNQt6uJzyA1Z58zRI7t3DgwRjgZ48kKznHTAbdc7TAKHwg 0G0XEXo1hYBmqP9GdE13C0yuYCVu3UgqVItmeeTFk8HiSJp0WXP2eEOnLtyE9ltD y7GLYlmhuO/wRsWAxZL0I9pki7ERR7L6i1CucQAs= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 368F71149BE; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1381170944.1348.31089409.5240B3D0@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: ha3K8UJr+uKIxvLdzQ/oomY7sigDYWm9lC0Ari6yM00F 1381170944 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 In-Reply-To: <12BA615C8BF048EAA9C5961448988DAF@yahoo.com> References: <1380991485.82917.YahooMailNeo@web160503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20131007155554.GB5343@dan.emsphone.com> <12BA615C8BF048EAA9C5961448988DAF@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: munin related Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:35:44 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:35:45 -0000 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013, at 12:57, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: > Dear Dan, > > Yep killing nscd help me to get out of this trouble. > > Thank you very much! > Some day it might be feasible to tie a hook into pkg that clears the uid/gid cache in nscd when trying to install packages so this isn't a problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 19:22:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C1F3FE for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x22a.google.com (mail-oa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F1392BA0 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id g12so6589700oah.15 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:22:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GCn3F4bMgykJniTTKTltzuaT8I0QDbwCFOH8DWoZBXM=; b=q36ZDb8X7n7YXAkEhwKyKeS+S+YnQSJ2DWH+b43NC1meSaCFq4jL73B28rhedSq/8f eYEr+4Jn60OeNXOTAIER4rtEHDKfTOh1r7AWV1UJ5ViVyjcM8ahPgMRXi0w8maIi86DV pwhU8srWLNTDV8VQNIINZVxMUWorFcXG7QpemlguqcYl37fYhaDDdJ4LedtMXr53SNMu BInDA+aTLsm5fOtgr66MGUq896Ux28IUHAhehUpWklikFUWLcArOiMv/osARRjyRvJff 1H991dFtPx5/CIV/gdAQbvK9gcQ+K+nXfCzeZO3q8Juv1P88ZKn7IXAwmKnJBRi22yy0 qUQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.141.225 with SMTP id rr1mr2393945oeb.55.1381173737172; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.95.201 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 15:22:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 From: alexus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:22:18 -0000 bash-4.2# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.4-RELEASE from update4.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: kernel/generic src/base src/bin src/cddl src/contrib src/crypto src/etc src/games src/gnu src/include src/krb5 src/lib src/libexec src/release src/rescue src/sbin src/secure src/share src/sys src/tools src/ubin src/usbin world/base world/dict world/doc world/games world/info world/lib32 world/manpages world/proflibs The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: world/catpages Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y Fetching metadata signature for 7.4-RELEASE-p12 from update4.freebsd.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 7.4-RELEASE-p12 from update5.freebsd.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 7.4-RELEASE-p12 from update6.freebsd.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 7.4-RELEASE-p12 from update2.freebsd.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 7.4-RELEASE-p12 from update3.freebsd.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. bash-4.2# uname -a FreeBSD XX.XXXXX.org 7.4-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p5 #0: Fri Dec 23 17:36:54 UTC 2011 root@XX.XXXXX.org:/usr/obj/usr/src74/sys/GENERIC amd64 bash-4.2# Is there a way to upgrade 7.4-RELEASE-p5 to 7.4-RELEASE-p12 using freebsd-update now? -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 19:57:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F63B5DA for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 110852DBE for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r97JvIWt045823 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:57:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52531220.4090003@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 20:57:20 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? References: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> <5252AD3D.7070703@fjl.co.uk> <20131007143131.11669732@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20131007143131.11669732@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:57:22 -0000 On 07/10/2013 14:31, RW wrote: > On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:46:53 +0100 > Frank Leonhardt wrote: > > >> Alas, not. The console driver won't ring the BIOS bell on anything >> I've tried. It might on a desktop with a built-in sound card and >> speakers, but it won't do anything with the "beep" speaker. > Are you sure you have one? The last two cases I bought didn't. > They beep when you turn them on and they're ready to boot :-) /dev/speaker appears to be the answer. Thanks, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 20:00:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEF4AF3 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30E962E0B for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r97K0kjU091036; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:00:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r97K0kS9091033; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:00:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:00:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? In-Reply-To: <5252AD3D.7070703@fjl.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> <5252AD3D.7070703@fjl.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:00:46 -0600 (MDT) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 20:00:57 -0000 On Mon, 7 Oct 2013, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 07/10/2013 13:06, Peter Boosten wrote: >> >> echo "CTRL-V CTRL-G" should do the trick Or, more easily, printf "\a". > Alas, not. The console driver won't ring the BIOS bell on anything I've > tried. It might on a desktop with a built-in sound card and speakers, but it > won't do anything with the "beep" speaker. It's actually the same solution I > mentioned in the first line (\a translates to 007 which is ctrl-G). Make sure hw.syscons.bell is set to 1. It can be changed at run time, like in /etc/sysctl.conf. Some systems have it disabled (set to 0) because the bell is amazingly loud and piercing. (Looking at you, Dell.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 20:09:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE5AE0 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51A052E99 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r97K9hhm048232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:09:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52531508.7090206@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:09:44 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? References: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> <20131007143637.653304bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131007143637.653304bd.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 20:09:46 -0000 On 07/10/2013 13:36, Polytropon wrote: > > Is there any way to make a noise through the built in "bell" speaker > > found on an IBM PC compatible server box? Writing 007 to the BIOS cout > > routine might do it, but I've realised I haven't got a clue how to > do that. > Making it audible is part of the local terminal emulator, > either the TTY (text mode) driver or via xterm (or the > preferred alternative terminal emulator in X). Yers, but I'm not running X. Or a character terminal come to that :-) > > A more sophisticated interface is provided as soon as your > kernel has > > device speaker > > compiled in (or speaker.ko has been loaded). Now you can > play wonderful music through the speaker. :-) > > See "man 4 speaker" for details. Thanks! This is what I was looking for. > See the following shell script as an example of what you > can do: Overkill. I have proper work to do rather than working out how to play appropriate bit silly little tunes for every eventuality. Actually spkr.c has some useful comments in it - apparently it works the same as IBM PC BASIC. Now how do I make it polyphonic... > Always make sure that the system actually _has_ got an > internal speaker! I assume that modern PC hardware could > have it removed along with floppy drive connector, parallel > port or power switch. Remains to be seen, but most still seem to have one so the BIOS ROM can make "beep" diagnostic codes if it can't do anything else. >> P.S. "cdcontrol -f /dev/mycdrom eject" is the best I've come up with so >> far for getting attention. > That's a really clever idea, never heared of that. It has > the advantage of being permanent because the drive will > stay open when the sound of its motor has finished. :-) I use it all the time, especially when directing a tech to the appropriate server in a rack. "It's the one I just popped the CD drive on". These days servers have the spring-loaded notebook drives instead of the motorised trays, which is a pity. You could keep winding the motorised ones in and out until someone spotted it. I suppose if you did it energetically enough it might catch fire and set off the smoke alarm (audible). Or leave it wound out with a tin can balanced on it; to make a noise wind it back in and hear it clatter to the floor. (Incidentally - email over-lap because earlier reply posted to me and list rather than just list) Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 20:12:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C8A6E1 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andi@sectorbyte.de) Received: from sectorbyte.de (static.98.65.9.176.clients.your-server.de [176.9.65.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 967C42F31 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CoreI5 (port-92-206-8-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.206.8.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: andi) by sectorbyte.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54E76386E; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 22:05:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 22:05:52 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: alexus Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Message-Id: <20131007220552.933401f8b8579d6e2f43b6e7@sectorbyte.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 20:12:55 -0000 On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 15:22:17 -0400 alexus wrote: > bash-4.2# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 > Is there a way to upgrade 7.4-RELEASE-p5 to 7.4-RELEASE-p12 using > freebsd-update now? What about: # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update install http://www.freebsd.org/security/ Andreas -- Andreas Rudisch From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 20:16:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0303B7C for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C37F12F76 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6AF21CF4 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:16:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=27/8P+KYkxi5TY3tuILOCK1Q2Y8=; b=Iap nVaM0BE02eUFUUY9NI9oTFobN4o9GQ6semrQJH7nvmquLK8YHC2zb1vW7vgaPzpa Njl2lACTNd04EeEknh4CwjP04gvTTgobplLtoF/31qr5QgniWw1i4+RdUPE6VPCt EkM//xDSr6LRvtby0NA4Hk/+77Se1f2hnos0AsCk= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id A719A114C5E; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1381176989.11392.31131957.1323F0CD@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: I5Z/iKqYiZYlGAXw5eLLiOIkQNbb9aBZtnRQzYQUm2Hk 1381176989 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 15:16:29 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 20:16:40 -0000 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013, at 14:22, alexus wrote: > bash-4.2# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Just freebsd-update fetch && freebsd-update install is all you should have to run. The -r flag is for jumping major releases (from 7.x to 8.x, for example). I can't comment on whether or not the freebsd-update data for 7.x is still on the servers, though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 21:13:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71078818; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x230.google.com (mail-oa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E60D5245A; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m6so6800494oag.35 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:13:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dsQ4XkMXUg6h1JC+3MVKoDLIA/cDt915YD7RA4CUcoc=; b=XgCS8M2mDlifr6V7j4DPsN7RiRteYMO8y/cbYT1rwX61/gqWJmwQrqvpaSsaVc6p+T nrPK88J0HmMPzOTa5iCFgZNEQWNqYpodKg2lcq/z1pEovOQlWjSwkMUL6rOnAzf4FBmA qH1vCTIO3vAC+z5IsiErx55PLP1Ijw9HyjIJN+obPqZGyvHi2GKbv3ZyEwn3dPonv2DY xvF75O+bmdmEGOmlzFFbo6uFlj6RXYCQvqIYtXvYzkrwoN2j33iRiuhvkqt8ZQO6cryi L4ffQC5XrPsnLg53xhIqP5CoTOZFt9qPkV2iwsIz08Z5N8fyC56z/rMKzguv5wc9x1uD 3pgQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.33.74 with SMTP id p10mr48335427oei.18.1381180402540; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.95.201 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:13:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1381176989.11392.31131957.1323F0CD@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1381176989.11392.31131957.1323F0CD@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:13:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 From: alexus To: Mark Felder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:13:24 -0000 ok, I just did fetch & install and got bumped from p5 to p9 # uname -a FreeBSD XX.XXXXX.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 19:47:58 UTC 2012 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # can I take it all the way to -p12? (I'm running fetch again, hoping it will do that) On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013, at 14:22, alexus wrote: > > bash-4.2# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 > > Just freebsd-update fetch && freebsd-update install is all you should > have to run. The -r flag is for jumping major releases (from 7.x to 8.x, > for example). > > I can't comment on whether or not the freebsd-update data for 7.x is > still on the servers, though. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 21:15:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3EFADC; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x236.google.com (mail-oa0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 616282494; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n5so6849992oag.13 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:15:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3zKHaGvhnV7VJyEx3QFAgEmyoDdlhOkbrbSYT7q6lTI=; b=IEqi688b3BUeYGEqgOCeF58O3i2qaHZZT6EdF8NufvxDkidCNkwpy5wgmZ1eKdK0Lv vNYMD8H1psg1TLRKi4OTCzc8W9sCo1qJu7QR/GxlMqxSLKl0/u91+gw9+aiQskgiAIfS gbHWzU0z8+t3Le2Zi8b+Ui+PwM7nTaXJZZKMyhMKgvMzpEqO1pX8C9BU1XdBK1N0VpZK Ds5X1xfDq/4w6lcODrjNIDU+YOti8DUtM03E0XMTAK0FDPTFhgZ4sasEFvxYHftvjGaW Vsx7hX0Ksn0Pyq5P3rCHOWB10MjmiY1seb7Y0eKWbF7dvTOUsPSWBUzKGnOjD7T4ReUT rVqA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.33.74 with SMTP id p10mr48351424oei.18.1381180533902; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.95.201 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:15:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1381176989.11392.31131957.1323F0CD@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:15:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 From: alexus To: Mark Felder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:15:36 -0000 it didn't help.. # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.4-RELEASE from update6.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. The following files are affected by updates, but no changes have been downloaded because the files have been modified locally: /var/db/mergemaster.mtree No updates needed to update system to 7.4-RELEASE-p12. WARNING: FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 HAS PASSED ITS END-OF-LIFE DATE. Any security issues discovered after Fri Mar 1 00:00:00 UTC 2013 will not have been corrected. # freebsd-update install No updates are available to install. Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. # On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, alexus wrote: > ok, I just did fetch & install and got bumped from p5 to p9 > > # uname -a > FreeBSD XX.XXXXX.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 > 19:47:58 UTC 2012 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > # > > can I take it all the way to -p12? (I'm running fetch again, hoping it > will do that) > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013, at 14:22, alexus wrote: >> > bash-4.2# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 >> >> Just freebsd-update fetch && freebsd-update install is all you should >> have to run. The -r flag is for jumping major releases (from 7.x to 8.x, >> for example). >> >> I can't comment on whether or not the freebsd-update data for 7.x is >> still on the servers, though. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > -- > http://alexus.org/ > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 23:29:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37503EB2 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 23:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyzammy@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com (mail-ie0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0ABAD2D89 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 23:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id e14so16955817iej.6 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:29:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=b0rI/a8frWNwt29b7r03Bb2FFPOrv3zIhK3oHzDc2Q0=; b=Tfjbl13W2wLMGxubpRZos8yjMsA8mIPazIuAmaM8kLk6GplTUL4HjveiGkO2UmhIBw CX+K9Vb9W0abh0Zl8utGJsAUGbOPeqRx9B6moct11Bxn8llibKZwSdqgTBQsnFAvZBsh CVTT7C3l3QBOrP3xowNSAp58a8bBKZNth0KUgxP2IQ24Mwz0aZUpX3FRZTzFqovSBSvU zc0QTreBa7hZWUY9uPWn+8gmBirlFQ2j+831shaHaRN2UWXtFuplKTQEHi2WEFUPHGOf sYOuHYoehbJ8/yWteNLLl7TK2jvBYFphjm4JzIJX5Vtw5hl4NPiUxvM1Z/TGtH25pjLY PFbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.80.67 with SMTP id zt3mr19226723icb.23.1381188573452; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.20.232 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:29:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions From: Andy Zammy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 23:29:34 -0000 Hi, I used the second section of the handbook (20.4) to create a gmirror. In my particular setup I had a 1GB /, 6GB swap, 1GB /tmp and the rest of the 1TB drive was left for /usr I had to deviate from the handbook when it came to running the dump + restore commands, as the dump failed due to an issue with the journalling. To get around this problem, I dropped into single user mode, so I could remount root as read-only. The dump commands then worked. It specified in the handbook to restart the machine, and boot from ada1. It was at this point that I noticed something wasn't quite right. There was a spew of 'not found/no such file or directory' messages. These were all trying to reference libs and binaries that live in /usr. I boot into single user mode, and upon checking the other partitions, I notice that /tmp and /usr are empty, apart from a .snap file, and the restoresymtable file. Please could someone help me troubleshoot this problem? Let me know if you need any more info, and I'll post it up asap. Kind Regards Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 00:31:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD719A67 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 914A62153 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r980V8sY094857; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:31:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r980V8qc094854; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:31:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:31:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Andy Zammy Subject: Re: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:31:08 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 00:31:09 -0000 On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Andy Zammy wrote: > Hi, > > I used the second section of the handbook (20.4) to create a gmirror. In my > particular setup I had a 1GB /, 6GB swap, 1GB /tmp and the rest of the 1TB > drive was left for /usr > > I had to deviate from the handbook when it came to running the dump + > restore commands, as the dump failed due to an issue with the journalling. > To get around this problem, I dropped into single user mode, so I could > remount root as read-only. The dump commands then worked. It specified in > the handbook to restart the machine, and boot from ada1. > > It was at this point that I noticed something wasn't quite right. There was > a spew of 'not found/no such file or directory' messages. These were all > trying to reference libs and binaries that live in /usr. > > I boot into single user mode, and upon checking the other partitions, I > notice that /tmp and /usr are empty, apart from a .snap file, and the > restoresymtable file. > > Please could someone help me troubleshoot this problem? Let me know if you > need any more info, and I'll post it up asap. dump does not work reliably on filesystems with SUJ enabled. Turn off SUJ on the filesystems to be dumped by booting in single-user mode and running tunefs -j disable /dev/ada0whatever Do each filesystem, then use dump. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 01:39:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D56CE48 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 01:39:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from other@ahhyes.net) Received: from srv.ahhyes.net (unknown [IPv6:2607:fcd0:100:d::d3f3:e6ce]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11F7C25A7 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 01:39:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ahhyes.net; s=x; h=Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=PKkbeseHADz4E9ozVYT8o0bMGIkIS2ZNUfjZMip3XMI=; b=MgzKC1HoHe/MmU9o/h5irkjWu4P7cGT/JKRyh9WThv60cgJOnya1KlHxm/levNAl2/NyS9TwZt1A5d5Nd0U5rhuwA4EicPtV3qQKRuqxKa4WCgG3ORhH483cpc1UHPxLRlsnEMwUNhOOLw1MY7oyFs7zFxrBvumj7ZDWckck340=; Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=ahhyes.net) by srv.ahhyes.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1VTMH8-000EJA-J5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:39:50 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:39:50 +1100 From: other@ahhyes.net To: Subject: jabberd14 crashes if built with Clang 3.3 In-Reply-To: <6626ce0550512bd3f61892552c863763@ahhyes.net> References: <6626ce0550512bd3f61892552c863763@ahhyes.net> Message-ID: X-Sender: other@ahhyes.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.4 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: other@ahhyes.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on srv.ahhyes.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 01:39:39 -0000 Hi Guys, Just following up on a previous post (have changed the subject as this is a port specific issue that has cropped up since upgrading from 9.1-RELEASE (amd64) to 9.2-RELEASE (amd64)). This is interesting. I recompiled this port without Clang (using the base gcc) and it has not crashed once since (sig 10 bus error crashes are gone). Funnily enough, in FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE, the same port compiled with Clang 3.1 did not crash ever. So the culprit has to be Clang 3.3. I have the following in my /etc/make.conf (for clang building): root@srv:~ # cat /etc/make.conf NO_PROFILE=true CC=clang CXX=clang++ CPP=clang-cpp Whilst building the port with the base compiler is a workaround, it's not a long term solution, since Clang will be the default Compiler in the not so distant future. What is even more annoying is the lack of a port maintainer for net-im/jabber: MAINTAINER= ports@FreeBSD.org COMMENT= XMPP/Jabber server daemon I assume the above email is just a generic email address for ports who do not have a maintainer? Any suggestions what to do from here? Kind Regards, Alex. On 2013-10-02 09:54, other@ahhyes.net wrote: > > > * /usr/ports/net/net-im/jabber (which appears not to have changed > versions between my system upgrade) randomly > aborts with signal 10 (bus error)..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 01:46:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764DD33C for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 01:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23A022654 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 01:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-65.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FD3A2761F; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 03:46:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r981kBIH001943; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 03:46:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 03:46:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: How do I ring a bell? Message-Id: <20131008034611.6ff7d5c5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52531508.7090206@fjl.co.uk> References: <52529CFF.9030105@fjl.co.uk> <20131007143637.653304bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <52531508.7090206@fjl.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 01:46:26 -0000 On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:09:44 +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 07/10/2013 13:36, Polytropon wrote: > > > Is there any way to make a noise through the built in "bell" speaker > > > found on an IBM PC compatible server box? Writing 007 to the BIOS cout > > > routine might do it, but I've realised I haven't got a clue how to > > do that. > > Making it audible is part of the local terminal emulator, > > either the TTY (text mode) driver or via xterm (or the > > preferred alternative terminal emulator in X). > > Yers, but I'm not running X. Or a character terminal come to that :-) In that case, something line printf "\a" > /dev/console should work - I've just tried it. You can do that from a shell script or maybe even via fprintf() from your own code. > > See the following shell script as an example of what you > > can do: > > Overkill. I have proper work to do rather than working out how to play > appropriate bit silly little tunes for every eventuality. Actually > spkr.c has some useful comments in it - apparently it works the same as > IBM PC BASIC. Now how do I make it polyphonic... By adding more computers. This is the established solution to _every_ IT-related problem. :-) The code in /usr/src/sys/dev/speaker/spkr.c provides a more streamlined interface to sound generation. It's even more "bare metal" than what I remember from Borland Turbo-C: sound(1000); delay(2500); nosound(); It was important not to miss the 3rd line or the "fun" would never end. :-) > > Always make sure that the system actually _has_ got an > > internal speaker! I assume that modern PC hardware could > > have it removed along with floppy drive connector, parallel > > port or power switch. > > Remains to be seen, but most still seem to have one so the BIOS ROM can > make "beep" diagnostic codes if it can't do anything else. This proves that it is present, even if it's not an attached speaker anymore. Many mainboards contain a little piezo speaker directly mounted (my ultracheap home PC does, for example). > >> P.S. "cdcontrol -f /dev/mycdrom eject" is the best I've come up with so > >> far for getting attention. > > That's a really clever idea, never heared of that. It has > > the advantage of being permanent because the drive will > > stay open when the sound of its motor has finished. :-) > > I use it all the time, especially when directing a tech to the > appropriate server in a rack. "It's the one I just popped the CD drive > on". These days servers have the spring-loaded notebook drives instead > of the motorised trays, which is a pity. You could keep winding the > motorised ones in and out until someone spotted it. This seems to be better than those "slot-in" drives I had in one server: no moving parts to the outside. > I suppose if you did > it energetically enough it might catch fire and set off the smoke alarm > (audible). This procedure has been part of an independent quality test of CD recorders, performed by a PC maganzine many years ago. Interesting result: the cheapest drive would last longer than the most expensive one in which the gears automatically had disassembled. :-) > Or leave it wound out with a tin can balanced on it; to make > a noise wind it back in and hear it clatter to the floor. Interesting use for the "4X cup holder". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 04:21:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14034EF6 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 04:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE2E82102 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 04:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ar20so18148899iec.18 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:21:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bJ9+ZFQh4D4QnYU/mGK1g3xK8igBONo3WcnKVp18mtw=; b=j5Vc+PJosKKpMaSLgZ46GRoiAmefMAkSDZlT/JVz6T8hUT7wjFDI/8SvCqYUzEUMee AVIlQ2AnnaSrPlFWX9Me3CH63rvCMCncDurVQfebn1ZUfnB24InLqNZgoxx1HueybAzi kRob7ndyF/mf0rryim3R7XHmDGvHb3bQOl32NJugb0/R9JurQDh+b6/5HVRJZ59ilP3F 1yR1YcUNhFfCk1URAYHYUIWY8r7iP2cPdZpqnOp+Uuh+nocGGpFTY+TYgvMdZwFKZf06 JD21SbfwomOYA4xS4CFtDC6p07gqPGueUfl1XUDZNEW7tWed/fuOH49WFcK88NTKQp5r IkZg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.154.73 with SMTP id ld9mr44273icc.53.1381206101309; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.114.3 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:21:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: NAT: Handbook vs mailing list From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 04:21:42 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-natd.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-April/229017.html Hello, Handbook section 31.9.3 suggests I should, among other things, add the line ipdivert_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf when setting up NAT. The mailing list message linked above suggests that the handbook information is the "old way" and that the correct way is to set ipfw_enable and natd_enable in rc.conf. "Then /etc/rc.d/ipfw will load ipfw.ko, and if natd_enable is set, will invoke /etc/rc.d/natd, which loads ipdivert.ko at the right time." My inclination is to follow the handbook, but I thought I should first check to ensure the handbook is up-to-date. Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 05:01:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E43681F for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 05:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier2553@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x235.google.com (mail-qe0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 518FE22D6 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 05:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f53.google.com with SMTP id cy11so2144728qeb.12 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 22:01:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KcTvOR9dJb1inaIc2X//ZnDu9CBR/UuYLLQRuiX6GRM=; b=D4ZacK8lx9018BNvp1L5zyh9VNTfaWL3axTK6OFmXKqfTkVRvUsyVNCyL/NpWEX92T VJUBcpG18kXHPVh1cXl8/IRYPUCOT+i53h4qcuck9N7ecF9laAg3lEXf2nWeY3QKvdYO tYNBR+Uo/nvPG++gG4lzt5KUl6I+uxOPHFpd5eRxWn9fQeqOObJ6IEnir4nmWXUdhdQ6 OMl8DpnRB8nBvm7Peh4Tddc++K70EyO5weXHJWm98j/MTldqZVn7Qz9nT3w4opZNVeVW RyOLetVE+oE2G0BJeLPZs/oO++Mbo7b23JjWoQLfL51q/C0JVrqD97jiSgD9s1yfo8IG A/yw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.3.5 with SMTP id 5mr1219877qal.93.1381208474327; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 22:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.49.109.199 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 22:01:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:01:14 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1Tl42Oz9X54t0Dz2tL5Ym396ECE Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAT: Handbook vs mailing list From: Olivier Nicole To: Chris Stankevitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 05:01:15 -0000 Chris, On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-natd.html > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-April/229017.html > > Hello, > > Handbook section 31.9.3 suggests I should, among other things, add the > line ipdivert_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf when setting up NAT. > > The mailing list message linked above suggests that the handbook > information is the "old way" and that the correct way is to set > ipfw_enable and natd_enable in rc.conf. "Then /etc/rc.d/ipfw will > load ipfw.ko, and if natd_enable is set, will invoke /etc/rc.d/natd, > which loads ipdivert.ko at the right time." >From what you copied/explained, natd_enable will load ipdivert.ko and the handbook suggests that you load ipdivert.ko, so either way the module will be loaded. I'd go with the ipfw_enable and natd_enable as it may also do other needed things than just loading a kernel module. best regards, Olivier > My inclination is to follow the handbook, but I thought I should first > check to ensure the handbook is up-to-date. > > Thank you, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 06:15:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC314965 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 06:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 601B925FE for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 06:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r986FQ1a048189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:15:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r986FQow048186 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:15:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:15:26 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: munin related In-Reply-To: <12BA615C8BF048EAA9C5961448988DAF@yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <1380991485.82917.YahooMailNeo@web160503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20131007155554.GB5343@dan.emsphone.com> <12BA615C8BF048EAA9C5961448988DAF@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-292674840-1381212926=:70367" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 06:15:35 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-292674840-1381212926=:70367 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:57+0200, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: > Yep killing nscd help me to get out of this trouble. I have long suspected nscd to reinitialise the timers whenever an entry is requested while still held in the cache, be it a positive or a negative result. As such the only reasonable solution is to never cache negative results (TTL=0) and keep the positive TTL relatively short, say no more than 60 minutes. Can someone more knowledgeable on nscd internals confirm my suspicion? -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ --2055831798-292674840-1381212926=:70367-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 07:54:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB603729 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 07:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyzammy@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x230.google.com (mail-ie0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B0332BBB for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 07:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ar20so577662iec.7 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 00:54:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WrqF8DRhWIjhMjk9M0m3EP8P4TEOheyO8KRUItRzaWw=; b=PlxCb5pUruFBg8VmzUAN+5+aZ0b1c51GljtubrLsw9L1Qi8z/na/VhwaM3nbJAc/0A /vNvHmCsVAPJtN01iuihBm0q62rhaPBwg/z/HwHG15DPKU3TzTnFIW6ZepdaLvXJMFNw Ls73H32fvlFuKUaoLzyUjkNYg1waj+NuxrO1/MWXm3GzuDcQhGB7bV324OWOdBuUHCWR hYhaRX95uVuMVCvc50K9/wDdA3Cd1tHIeHfgRvv+hOIfT6P+w4vnxetRVQnIxH93jlMH KAm1bXpbIcG2i30Xq37RGgX7Wb3NqFh84fcddSpLSJ2KoGAMY4O2FZhoMwqlm3O/zrz3 D9eA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.129.197 with SMTP id hj5mr157463icc.84.1381218873074; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 00:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.20.232 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.20.232 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:54:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:54:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions From: Andy Zammy To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 07:54:33 -0000 Thanks very much. Please could I make a suggestion that this be included in the handbook page? On 8 Oct 2013 01:31, "Warren Block" wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Andy Zammy wrote: > > Hi, >> >> I used the second section of the handbook (20.4) to create a gmirror. In >> my >> particular setup I had a 1GB /, 6GB swap, 1GB /tmp and the rest of the 1TB >> drive was left for /usr >> >> I had to deviate from the handbook when it came to running the dump + >> restore commands, as the dump failed due to an issue with the journalling. >> To get around this problem, I dropped into single user mode, so I could >> remount root as read-only. The dump commands then worked. It specified in >> the handbook to restart the machine, and boot from ada1. >> >> It was at this point that I noticed something wasn't quite right. There >> was >> a spew of 'not found/no such file or directory' messages. These were all >> trying to reference libs and binaries that live in /usr. >> >> I boot into single user mode, and upon checking the other partitions, I >> notice that /tmp and /usr are empty, apart from a .snap file, and the >> restoresymtable file. >> >> Please could someone help me troubleshoot this problem? Let me know if you >> need any more info, and I'll post it up asap. >> > > dump does not work reliably on filesystems with SUJ enabled. Turn off SUJ > on the filesystems to be dumped by booting in single-user mode and running > tunefs -j disable /dev/ada0whatever > > Do each filesystem, then use dump. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 09:15:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2379CB; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E6A20E7; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:15:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.97.5 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 35075517; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 16:15:22 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r989FLqI004196; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:15:21 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r989FLsg004195; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:15:21 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:15:21 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mpt problem on a Supermicro motherboard (FreeBSD 9.2 amd64) Message-ID: <20131008091521.GB4094@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Justin Gibbs , Scott Long X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 09:15:25 -0000 Colleagues, I have several Supermicro-based servers with the mpt RAID adapter: # mptutil show adapter mpt0 Adapter: Board Name: UNUSED Board Assembly: Chip Name: C1068E Chip Revision: UNUSED RAID Levels: none # The problem is, I cannot configure any RAIDs (please see output below) from FreeBSD. If I configure volumes from BIOS setup, FreeBSD still sees them as separate physical discs. What am I doing wrong? I cannot use gmirror with these servers because a) if no MPT RAID is configured in BIOS setup, it cannot boot from HDD and b) if an MPT RAID *is* configured in BIOS setup, it occupies the last sector and prevents GEOM from working with these drives. Any help please? (or redirect me to a more appropriate maillist). # mptutil clear Are you sure you wish to clear the configuration on mpt0? [y/N] y mpt0: Configuration cleared # mptutil show volumes mpt0 Volumes: Id Size Level Stripe State Write-Cache Name # mptutil show drives mpt0 Physical Drives: da0 ( 558G) ONLINE SCSI-6 bus 0 id 0 da1 ( 558G) ONLINE SCSI-6 bus 0 id 1 da2 ( 558G) ONLINE SCSI-6 bus 0 id 2 da3 ( 558G) ONLINE SCSI-6 bus 0 id 3 # # mptutil create raid1 -v da2,da3 mptutil: Reading config page header failed: Invalid configuration page Added drive da2 with PhysDiskNum 0 mptutil: Reading config page header failed: Invalid configuration page # # mptutil show volumes mpt0 Volumes: Id Size Level Stripe State Write-Cache Name # -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 09:28:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E48EE3 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AE121EA for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r989RAEt058172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Oct 2013 02:27:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: 9.1 - 9.2 upgrade From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20131005120809.GB43287@webmail.dweimer.local> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 02:27:12 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <62A8B684-0328-42F5-B9E4-D5DF80563D4D@lafn.org> <1bdf3856902efd917ab9d489c8b6e751@dweimer.net> <2B420332-D26F-4926-A53A-787B110B0EFE@lafn.org> <20131005040802.32af9b73.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131005050307.7bab5735.freebsd@edvax.de> <039B61B6-C918-494C-B327-52E4815660B1@lafn.org> <20131005120809.GB43287@webmail.dweimer.local> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 09:28:44 -0000 On 5 October 2013, at 05:08, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 21:49:18 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>=20 >> On 4 October 2013, at 20:03, Polytropon wrote: >>=20 >>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:42:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On 4 October 2013, at 19:08, Polytropon wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>>>> The exact sequence was: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Step 1: freebsd-update from 9.1 to 9.2 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Have you verified in /etc/freebsd-update.conf that "src" >>>>> is definitely part of what should be updated? >>>>=20 >>>> System is not bootable - can't verify anything=85 >>>=20 >>> Does the system (or better, its "enclosure", software-wise) >>> allow booting a rescue system or an emergency media, such >>> as a FreeBSD v9 live system? >>=20 >> Yes - but there is no one there who can successfully be told >> how to run it. >=20 > Not even inserting a USB stick (with the FreeBSD memstick data) > or a CD? >=20 >=20 >=20 >> We have serious communications issues - they want to use back >> slashes and have no idea what a slash is. >=20 > Maybe that is the result of many years of "administration" on > "Windows" PCs. :-) >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Even if you tell them which key to use, they know better and >> use a back slash cause thats what Windoze uses. >=20 > Uh... "knowing better" would disqualify them as maintainers of > a server installation. The inability to learn (or even to read > and follow instructions) is a dangerous thing. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> The disk should be in the mail to me now. I will be able to >> work with it when it arrives. >=20 > Okay, that's also a possible alternative. To be honest, that's > the first time I hear about this procedure. But doable. >=20 >=20 >=20 >>> The file /etc/freebsd-update.conf should contain the line >>>=20 >>> Components src world kernel >>>=20 >>> if you want to make sure the source is properly updated, >>> along with the world and kernel (GENERIC). >>=20 >> As indicated before, I don't think all the source got updated.=20 >> The kernel showed 9.2 after recompilation. However UPDATING >> was not updated. Thats as much as I could check before. >=20 > I assume that this could be possible by inconsistently updated > sources. It would be a good start to remove /usr/src and download > the sources of the correct version via SVN _or_ freebsd-update > again. Before the next installation attempt, /usr/obj should be > removed as well, just to be sure. >=20 >=20 >=20 >>>>>> Step 5: reboot >>>>>=20 >>>>> Attention: Into single-user mode. >>>>=20 >>>> Not possible since the system is located over 100 miles away. >>>> Everything has to be done via remote console. >>>=20 >>> Does this mean "SSH only" or do you have a _real_ console >>> transmission by which you can access the system _prior_ to >>> the OS providing the SSH access? I'm mentioning this because >>> the traditional approach requires (few) steps done in the >>> single-user mode where no SSH connectivity is provided in >>> the "normal" way=85 >>=20 >> I have a telnet box that has serial connections to the console >> ports. That approach has been used without any issues since >> FreeBSD 2.5. I do disable all ports during the process via an >> reduced rc.conf file. >=20 > A serial console should also work, but even though I've been > using serial consoles (and _real_ serial terminals), one thing > I'm not sure about: Is it possible to interrupt (!) the boot > process at an early stage to get to the loader prompt and > boot into single user mode from there? >=20 > Ok > boot -s >=20 > If not, do you have the "beastie menu" (or whatever it is called > today) enabled to go to SUM to perform the "make installworld" step? >=20 > Anyway, if you can install everything is required with the disk > at home, and then send it back to that "datacenter" (according > to your characterization, the quotes are deserved), that should > solve the problems and make sure everything works as intended. The Thick Plottens=85 I received the drives and installed them on a working system. The = failed system is structured with a single partition for the system and = another for swap. For some unknown reason, the BIOS got left configured = to boot the extra disk if its powered up. That turns out to be handy. = I can boot a working system with the corrupt drive powered off. Booting from the corrupt drive yields the normal hardware info followed = by the Beastie image and immediately by a multitude of lines (repeated = many times): Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port BIOS drive C: is disk0 BIOS drive D: is disk1 BIOS 639kB/1037824kB available memory FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 (doug@zool.lafn.org, Thu Oct 3 04:23:13 PDT 2013) Can't work out which disk we are booting from. Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to disk0: I was able to capture these by using a serial console connected to = another computer. The lines only appear on the serial console once. = They scroll by on the real console many time - all too fast to read = anything. Then after a few seconds of that, the screen goes black, and = the system reboots. The cycle then repeats=85 Pressing any key does = nothing. I even filled the keyboard buffer with spaces hoping to stop = boot, but nothing seems to stop it. I checked and the freebsd-update.conf include world sys and src. I = rebuild everything after removing /obj just for grins and giggles. I = have installed the kernel and world using DESTDIR to put it on the = corrupt drive. Same messages again. I now have the corrupt drive mounted on /mnt and am trying to update the = src again. Using: =20 freebsd-update -b /mnt fetch updated files list show /usr/src/sys=85 and updating to 9.1-RELEASE-p7 freebsd-update -b /mnt install This is running slower than molasses in January. Its run for = almost 30 minutes and only 3 files have been updated. There must be = network issues between me and the server. I'll let it run tonight but I = am going to crash now. Long day. More tomorrow. -- Doug= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 10:06:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8C9AAB for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EA572513 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VTTwR-0006sl-FY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:50:59 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:50:59 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:50:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: NAT: Handbook vs mailing list Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 05:50:45 -0400 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:06:08 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: [snip] >> >> The mailing list message linked above suggests that the handbook >> information is the "old way" and that the correct way is to set >> ipfw_enable and natd_enable in rc.conf. "Then /etc/rc.d/ipfw will >> load ipfw.ko, and if natd_enable is set, will invoke /etc/rc.d/natd, >> which loads ipdivert.ko at the right time." > > From what you copied/explained, natd_enable will load ipdivert.ko and > the handbook suggests that you load ipdivert.ko, so either way the > module will be loaded. > > I'd go with the ipfw_enable and natd_enable as it may also do other > needed things than just loading a kernel module. +1 on this. It is also present in the /etc/defaults/rc.conf this way as well (of course, use /etc/rc.conf for override customization). The original situation referred to early in the mailing-list content was a timing related problem where the ipdivert module would fail, even after ipfw loading _did_ succeed. Most of the 'old way' is a holdover from before the init system brought in the rc.subr startup scripts (imported from netbsd if memory serves). There have been a couple of hiccups along the way concerning the order things are started. For example, it doesn't really work to start a dhcp client prior to successful network initiate completion. Over time the rc.subr system has evolved and been cleaned up. A long time ago I eschewed running mergemaster when doing source-based upgrades. Just didn't like it and it never seemed like not doing it hurt anything. For quite some time I never experienced any problem with this approach. However, this eventually did bite me in the rump in a very bad way! :-) When running mergemaster while upgrading to a new release you may see these scripts being updated. So they are continuing to evolve, and a lot of this is to start up and configure things as the system comes up in a 'correct' and coherent order. So imho the Handbook is a wee bit outdated. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 11:12:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB4EC7B for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from sh4-5.1blu.de (sh4-5.1blu.de [178.254.11.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 234AB293A for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1VTVH0-00047I-Pl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:16:18 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:16:18 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system Message-ID: <20131008111618.GA9957@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:12:49 -0000 Hello, I have prepared a boot-able USB-key (to be exactly a disk image of it) the usual way: # dd if=/dev/zero of=da0 bs=8m count=1868 # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f da0 md0 # fdisk -I md0 # fdisk -B md0 # bsdlabel -w md0s1 auto # bsdlabel -B md0s1 # bsdlabel -e md0s1 # edit the disk label and change partition "a" from "unused" to "4.2BSD" # newfs /dev/md0s1a # mount /dev/md0s1a /mnt # cd /usr/src now we can install world an kernel: # make installworld DESTDIR=/mnt # make installkernel DESTDIR=/mnt KERNCONF=GENERIC INSTALL_NODEBUG=t # make distrib-dirs DESTDIR=/mnt # make distribution DESTDIR=/mnt ... I have compiled ~800 ports (Xorg and KDE4) and after this I've created packages of all the installed ports with pkg_create(1); the resulting xxxx.tgz files are all as well copied to the image into /mnt/PKGDIR. So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? Thanks in advance All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 12:34:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6054087D for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from n9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (n9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [66.196.81.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F3672F9D for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [72.30.235.67] by n9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 11:33:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.217] by t4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 11:32:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 11:32:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 808583.79307.bm@omp1026.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 71303 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2013 11:32:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1381231967; bh=GMKsMckTMpPyWS7rb3ekuJTrwLBHrdV4IhY8EGX9Y5U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vD0uYsmFg/ho/06g9MfumKS6yJ+mNuu+cTzj62oz+3MtZ3t2fcBbUNXqT3wq316H9dO5Y1P/3aKx2zeA4F7pDKhBWO/ZSZCG5SMW7BaAFbr2pXGf263jHw9fMtAUDkjhZtPWKbq2aY9UyCyO+ob4HuoiyZe1y13EkZOW47ZNlpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LzO5v6zazIpWBgk2jpMvTzrbX0+EkvNGG0RLIgMGMEH6pqdXkHAg286ADwO9zNhaEdnzWw5LI+k71oLw7a4zkYtXuL6Av0UG66U0qexgnASSrPdKjsR6JCtrbcUGwlaqjpQjfSD73f0CAjdKilW+wo6bNt2vwzjlujkEROiLp0E=; X-YMail-OSG: g29fMM0VM1kLU203yyrmZv2C0DpJLF1TNboufFHkaXxKejs 3tiqzSoMJ.CoT7qJr61cD3qocTk.22pfljDOnRXN0qZjXVKQMKaZGWVeK7p0 b26NhyCIafOoaUM0x8iq3OzwLy7soW1kvPRuK5fBHeyk7UONWSO9kqCGj0vl 3kAnDnieHZ3jnMIwZwZXoWKOYXMTvKRrGp8XyiaO5HLa88uHhlwpkcAYrTYL 64pl_ixRIeRh.tEHlVRHr0JrU88ZlBMvB3ehe2zENqiVK8CKwYKpBPSJzW1W KRCCyG2yUuKK4vMG1Ywk1QNLNXMlbwgcH0RFrrg09wwukpkTMzjgs6XMjAyM R7AmgUXpcPM2.4TlYCjsKHeyg57jxbBYfjHBocC1B_uV4sL.i.rFSAy1OSG2 KzttxLxdUaTRbcmtfeJ3qBFM6jiUPiQxLgO1t8Fq00l8UGPj9HvF_3u4Cw41 TKCaYt9PN9NCkc8kAvLbBUs0pl.XEHuh01flg.nCF2JzVmOKdufeYNzKI365 eCnBB3ZS2J5B_3PFXGpxXHBXfZcW07MiG1AUJJpTXzWW4eTeTgPEfNHBh3z. gnvp.TBZxWQwGudDZL1.ooyoxWT7TNvKN3D1inxbUQ4Sj7ps- Received: from [62.77.229.168] by web160506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 04:32:45 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, Tm90IGEgYmFkIGlkZWEuCgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogTWFyayBGZWxkZXIgPGZlbGRARnJlZUJTRC5vcmc.ClRvOiBmcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9uc0BmcmVlYnNkLm9yZyAKU2VudDogTW9uZGF5LCBPY3RvYmVyIDcsIDIwMTMgODozNSBQTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogbXVuaW4gcmVsYXRlZAogCgpPbiBNb24sIE9jdCA3LCAyMDEzLCBhdCAxMjo1NywgTGFzemxvIERhbmllbGlzeiB3cm90ZToKPiBEZWFyIERhbiwgCj4gCj4gWWVwIGtpbGxpbmcgbnNjZCBoZWxwIG0BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.160.587 References: <1380991485.82917.YahooMailNeo@web160503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20131007155554.GB5343@dan.emsphone.com> <12BA615C8BF048EAA9C5961448988DAF@yahoo.com> <1381170944.1348.31089409.5240B3D0@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1381231965.70095.YahooMailNeo@web160506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 04:32:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Laszlo Danielisz Subject: Re: munin related To: Mark Felder , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <1381170944.1348.31089409.5240B3D0@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Laszlo Danielisz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:34:17 -0000 Not a bad idea. ________________________________ From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 8:35 PM Subject: Re: munin related On Mon, Oct 7, 2013, at 12:57, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: > Dear Dan, > > Yep killing nscd help me to get out of this trouble. > > Thank you very much! > Some day it might be feasible to tie a hook into pkg that clears the uid/gid cache in nscd when trying to install packages so this isn't a problem. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 12:49:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB367FA for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E2C420B2 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7C92139D for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:49:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :references; s=smtpout; bh=FJ33KJZKMUfh3sywRP689sMM1eg=; b=cdmAx ZPDA5KIL24IsWXlEjIu9nHElUnkVximB9bICLLZIB0XFacQjXwQ0HJead7g+eOQI +NMNm/OgAQ8SZwQZ16qkho7d3OWhMfqWrqEOd7y12S/KWuH/katW56FrK1EUAnnL xLdpeWSUI38O2JkWBiTbATNBbaSQ07jdkmWa+o= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4E1A7116A6F; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1381236570.4983.31420537.4465A37F@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: +YaBCg63JmlIOowbrO4j4fslydBKMGrTa4UC06+lgPaC 1381236570 From: Mark Felder To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 Subject: Re: munin related Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 07:49:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <1380991485.82917.YahooMailNeo@web160503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20131007155554.GB5343@dan.emsphone.com> <12BA615C8BF048EAA9C5961448988DAF@yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:49:31 -0000 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 1:15, Trond Endrest=F8l wrote: > On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:57+0200, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: >=20 > > Yep killing nscd help me to get out of this trouble. >=20 > I have long suspected nscd to reinitialise the timers whenever an=20 > entry is requested while still held in the cache, be it a positive or=20 > a negative result. >=20 > As such the only reasonable solution is to never cache negative=20 > results (TTL=3D0) and keep the positive TTL relatively short, say no=20 > more than 60 minutes. >=20 > Can someone more knowledgeable on nscd internals confirm my suspicion? >=20 I'm not that guy, but I do remember watching this closely on the mailing lists a while back. I can't deploy nscd because of negative cache issues and I don't think this patch in this thread was ever committed. I haven't had time to investigate, though. http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/PATCH-Fix-for-negative-cacheing-proble= m-in-NSCD-td5722843.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 12:58:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4E4FA for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2952215A for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C08621451 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:58:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:58:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=m5bmlsS1L6n8OF7q38ZLrEs7opg=; b=F/B SIZZ6OhRICWERfY23GJHAZPrSKvoU7Z6eIgcJ7hBThYFsG87BoR2WolZYdY4mJsq QPStHXCUVn2Deq60/Yz5GAi6K8IYMlkmcU3f049qYhP66odGVrVeNxJYe24/ZVtM bjaw7xiy01x5NT3JnmyKUT0DEVI6E7HJgGx01XhU= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 1FAA2116A78; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:58:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1381237086.8491.31423161.63C77F6D@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: pT1RzB3RTuVW/FFsn6DU3FpED0S6Nu+3psp0nQkidF08 1381237086 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 In-Reply-To: <20131008111618.GA9957@sh4-5.1blu.de> References: <20131008111618.GA9957@sh4-5.1blu.de> Subject: Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:58:08 -0000 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 6:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image > in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the > flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? > > Thanks in advance > > All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). > pkg_add and all of the old "pkgtools" do not exist in 10-CURRENT anymore. Are you running a build of 10-CURRENT before they were removed? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 13:04:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13CC80A; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from sh4-5.1blu.de (sh4-5.1blu.de [178.254.11.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95B5321DE; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1VTX0z-0006tf-Gy; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:07:53 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:07:53 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system Message-ID: <20131008130753.GA26177@sh4-5.1blu.de> References: <20131008111618.GA9957@sh4-5.1blu.de> <1381237086.8491.31423161.63C77F6D@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1381237086.8491.31423161.63C77F6D@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:04:17 -0000 El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 07:58:06AM -0500, Mark Felder escribió: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 6:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image > > in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the > > flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). > > > > pkg_add and all of the old "pkgtools" do not exist in 10-CURRENT > anymore. Are you running a build of 10-CURRENT before they were removed? No. The r255948 was built on a clean, empty environment but with $ cat /etc/src.conf WITH_PKGTOOLS=yes matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 13:12:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C20C2E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF08B2281 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B0720F04 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 09:12:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=e4reVXloE6orhqh+ijaBvFOFH+8=; b=IeQ ZLUCuXQDPKfL3izS6RTL00C7zYqEbqBjwP+ctap4DO1FKmkE8akTqKhht3i2n//G 0BoDOYpsEgQvkW3wsN9a4NiN+erL/pdeDKEJYUnFQktNeLDmUx/fIgkyXSMIJ3wx 21XUjHTWA8Si8sEjfZmuKZLD2dDPWvzz7jJJEd5c= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 96D0F116B32; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1381237951.15680.31430109.1ED62FEE@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: p3k0gmAMQbF6pLwTTSiTFsXhA6+Lf3wlMdxiJWhKrgXb 1381237951 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 In-Reply-To: <20131008130753.GA26177@sh4-5.1blu.de> References: <20131008111618.GA9957@sh4-5.1blu.de> <1381237086.8491.31423161.63C77F6D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20131008130753.GA26177@sh4-5.1blu.de> Subject: Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:12:31 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:12:33 -0000 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 8:07, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 07:58:06AM -0500, Mark Felder > escribi=F3: >=20 > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 6:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > >=20 > > > So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image > > > in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the > > > flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? > > >=20 > > > Thanks in advance > > >=20 > > > All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). > > >=20 > >=20 > > pkg_add and all of the old "pkgtools" do not exist in 10-CURRENT > > anymore. Are you running a build of 10-CURRENT before they were removed? >=20 > No. The r255948 was built on a clean, empty environment but with >=20 > $ cat /etc/src.conf=20 > WITH_PKGTOOLS=3Dyes >=20 Ok, I won't question your needs for pkg_* as you seem to be aware of what you're doing :-) When you use pkg_* or pkg with their built-in chroot options it seems that it executes those tools within those chroots instead of setting the chroot as a destination for the installation. So if you wanted to use --chroot I think you have to make sure the packages are available inside the chroot. Perhaps there's some sort of DESTDIR option for the package installation? I've been searching but have had no luck yet. I'll ask around. It might be more reliable to do something like nullfs mount the packages into the chroot and do the installation completely within the chroot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 13:22:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D72EC9 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EFC12334 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.local [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r98DMeGx034345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:22:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:22:40 -0500 From: dweimer To: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: 9.1 - 9.2 upgrade Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: References: <62A8B684-0328-42F5-B9E4-D5DF80563D4D@lafn.org> <1bdf3856902efd917ab9d489c8b6e751@dweimer.net> <2B420332-D26F-4926-A53A-787B110B0EFE@lafn.org> <20131005040802.32af9b73.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131005050307.7bab5735.freebsd@edvax.de> <039B61B6-C918-494C-B327-52E4815660B1@lafn.org> <20131005120809.GB43287@webmail.dweimer.local> Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:22:45 -0000 On 10/08/2013 4:27 am, Doug Hardie wrote: > On 5 October 2013, at 05:08, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 21:49:18 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>> >>> On 4 October 2013, at 20:03, Polytropon wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:42:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 4 October 2013, at 19:08, Polytropon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>>>>> The exact sequence was: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Step 1: freebsd-update from 9.1 to 9.2 >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you verified in /etc/freebsd-update.conf that "src" >>>>>> is definitely part of what should be updated? >>>>> >>>>> System is not bootable - can't verify anything… >>>> >>>> Does the system (or better, its "enclosure", software-wise) >>>> allow booting a rescue system or an emergency media, such >>>> as a FreeBSD v9 live system? >>> >>> Yes - but there is no one there who can successfully be told >>> how to run it. >> >> Not even inserting a USB stick (with the FreeBSD memstick data) >> or a CD? >> >> >> >>> We have serious communications issues - they want to use back >>> slashes and have no idea what a slash is. >> >> Maybe that is the result of many years of "administration" on >> "Windows" PCs. :-) >> >> >> >>> Even if you tell them which key to use, they know better and >>> use a back slash cause thats what Windoze uses. >> >> Uh... "knowing better" would disqualify them as maintainers of >> a server installation. The inability to learn (or even to read >> and follow instructions) is a dangerous thing. >> >> >> >>> The disk should be in the mail to me now. I will be able to >>> work with it when it arrives. >> >> Okay, that's also a possible alternative. To be honest, that's >> the first time I hear about this procedure. But doable. >> >> >> >>>> The file /etc/freebsd-update.conf should contain the line >>>> >>>> Components src world kernel >>>> >>>> if you want to make sure the source is properly updated, >>>> along with the world and kernel (GENERIC). >>> >>> As indicated before, I don't think all the source got updated. >>> The kernel showed 9.2 after recompilation. However UPDATING >>> was not updated. Thats as much as I could check before. >> >> I assume that this could be possible by inconsistently updated >> sources. It would be a good start to remove /usr/src and download >> the sources of the correct version via SVN _or_ freebsd-update >> again. Before the next installation attempt, /usr/obj should be >> removed as well, just to be sure. >> >> >> >>>>>>> Step 5: reboot >>>>>> >>>>>> Attention: Into single-user mode. >>>>> >>>>> Not possible since the system is located over 100 miles away. >>>>> Everything has to be done via remote console. >>>> >>>> Does this mean "SSH only" or do you have a _real_ console >>>> transmission by which you can access the system _prior_ to >>>> the OS providing the SSH access? I'm mentioning this because >>>> the traditional approach requires (few) steps done in the >>>> single-user mode where no SSH connectivity is provided in >>>> the "normal" way… >>> >>> I have a telnet box that has serial connections to the console >>> ports. That approach has been used without any issues since >>> FreeBSD 2.5. I do disable all ports during the process via an >>> reduced rc.conf file. >> >> A serial console should also work, but even though I've been >> using serial consoles (and _real_ serial terminals), one thing >> I'm not sure about: Is it possible to interrupt (!) the boot >> process at an early stage to get to the loader prompt and >> boot into single user mode from there? >> >> Ok >> boot -s >> >> If not, do you have the "beastie menu" (or whatever it is called >> today) enabled to go to SUM to perform the "make installworld" step? >> >> Anyway, if you can install everything is required with the disk >> at home, and then send it back to that "datacenter" (according >> to your characterization, the quotes are deserved), that should >> solve the problems and make sure everything works as intended. > > The Thick Plottens… > > I received the drives and installed them on a working system. The > failed system is structured with a single partition for the system and > another for swap. For some unknown reason, the BIOS got left > configured to boot the extra disk if its powered up. That turns out > to be handy. I can boot a working system with the corrupt drive > powered off. > > Booting from the corrupt drive yields the normal hardware info > followed by the Beastie image and immediately by a multitude of lines > (repeated many times): > > Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port > BIOS drive C: is disk0 > BIOS drive D: is disk1 > BIOS 639kB/1037824kB available memory > > FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 > (doug@zool.lafn.org, Thu Oct 3 04:23:13 PDT 2013) > Can't work out which disk we are booting from. > Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to > disk0: > > > I was able to capture these by using a serial console connected to > another computer. The lines only appear on the serial console once. > They scroll by on the real console many time - all too fast to read > anything. Then after a few seconds of that, the screen goes black, > and the system reboots. The cycle then repeats… Pressing any key > does nothing. I even filled the keyboard buffer with spaces hoping to > stop boot, but nothing seems to stop it. > > I checked and the freebsd-update.conf include world sys and src. I > rebuild everything after removing /obj just for grins and giggles. I > have installed the kernel and world using DESTDIR to put it on the > corrupt drive. Same messages again. > > I now have the corrupt drive mounted on /mnt and am trying to update > the src again. Using: > > freebsd-update -b /mnt fetch > > updated files list show /usr/src/sys… > and updating to 9.1-RELEASE-p7 > > freebsd-update -b /mnt install > > This is running slower than molasses in January. Its run for almost > 30 minutes and only 3 files have been updated. There must be network > issues between me and the server. I'll let it run tonight but I am > going to crash now. Long day. More tomorrow. > > -- Doug Have you checked the dmesg output, specifically to see if there are any disk errors, perhaps the hard drive is about dead. If you are planning to rebuild world and kernel form source, why not just use svn or extract the source from the 9.2-RELEASE disk onto the system. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 13:27:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2541C207; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from sh4-5.1blu.de (sh4-5.1blu.de [178.254.11.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDD38236D; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1VTXNc-0000uO-TQ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:31:16 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:31:16 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system Message-ID: <20131008133116.GA1987@sh4-5.1blu.de> References: <20131008111618.GA9957@sh4-5.1blu.de> <1381237086.8491.31423161.63C77F6D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20131008130753.GA26177@sh4-5.1blu.de> <1381237951.15680.31430109.1ED62FEE@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1381237951.15680.31430109.1ED62FEE@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:27:40 -0000 El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 08:12:31AM -0500, Mark Felder escribió: > > No. The r255948 was built on a clean, empty environment but with > > > > $ cat /etc/src.conf > > WITH_PKGTOOLS=yes > > > > Ok, I won't question your needs for pkg_* as you seem to be aware of > what you're doing :-) > > When you use pkg_* or pkg with their built-in chroot options it seems > that it executes those tools within those chroots instead of setting the > chroot as a destination for the installation. So if you wanted to use > --chroot I think you have to make sure the packages are available inside > the chroot. Perhaps there's some sort of DESTDIR option for the package > installation? I've been searching but have had no luck yet. I'll ask > around. It might be more reliable to do something like nullfs mount the > packages into the chroot and do the installation completely within the > chroot. Meanwhile I did: # cp -Rp ~guru/PKGDIR /mnt # PKG_PATH=/PKGDIR # export PKG_PATH # chroot /mnt pkg_add xorg-7.7 # chroot /mnt pkg_add kde-4.10.5 # chroot /mnt pkg_add vim-7.3.1314 ... # chroot /mnt pkg_info | wc -l 654 which went fine without any errors (only the normal messages about creation of users, etc.); I will test the resulting image and report back. matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 16:04:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E9CCD0 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zkolic@sbb.rs) Received: from smtp9.sbb.rs (smtp9.sbb.rs [89.216.2.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5042D4B for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from knossos (cable-178-148-96-14.dynamic.sbb.rs [178.148.96.14]) by smtp9.sbb.rs (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id r98Fwm8O020480 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:59:03 +0200 Received: from localhost (1000@localhost [local]); by knossos (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 80fb6897; for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:58:19 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: OpenSMTPD enqueuer (Demoosh) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:58:19 +0200 From: Zoran Kolic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is pkg repository for 9.2-RELEASE (amd64)? Message-ID: <20131008155819.GA8808@knossos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 16:04:55 -0000 > Use PACKAGESITE=http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-${ABI}/latest > > That's the kit that will form the official FreeBSD package repository; > it just lacks the crypto bits for signing the packages, which is why > it's calling itself 'pkg-test' > > Oh -- there isn't an A record in the DNS for pkg-test.freebsd.org -- > look up a SRV record for _http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org instead. Well, I still have no idea what the address of the server is. Could someone post it (i.e. 123.456.789.123 or alike)? After having it set as PACKAGESITE, I assume running pkg, pkg2ng, pkg update, pkg upgrade -fy enough? 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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:27:27 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 16:27:31 -0000 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 10:58, Zoran Kolic wrote: > > Use PACKAGESITE=http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-${ABI}/latest > > > > That's the kit that will form the official FreeBSD package repository; > > it just lacks the crypto bits for signing the packages, which is why > > it's calling itself 'pkg-test' > > > > Oh -- there isn't an A record in the DNS for pkg-test.freebsd.org -- > > look up a SRV record for _http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org instead. > > Well, I still have no idea what the address of the server is. > Could someone post it (i.e. 123.456.789.123 or alike)? # dig _http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org SRV ; <<>> DiG 9.9.3-P2 <<>> _http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org SRV ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8634 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 3 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4000 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;_http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org. IN SRV ;; ANSWER SECTION: _http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org. 120 IN SRV 10 10 80 pkg1.nyi.freebsd.org. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: pkg1.nyi.freebsd.org. 3600 IN A 96.47.72.120 pkg1.nyi.freebsd.org. 3600 IN AAAA 2610:1c1:1:6300::16:78 ;; Query time: 374 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.93.251#53(192.168.93.251) ;; WHEN: Tue Oct 08 11:24:41 CDT 2013 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 144 > After having it set as PACKAGESITE, I assume running pkg, pkg2ng, > pkg update, pkg upgrade -fy enough? > Best regards all > Depends. Where are your other installed packages from? I'd probably re-install all of them from the pkg-test repository just to be safe. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 16:41:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899E3E73 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zkolic@sbb.rs) Received: from smtp9.sbb.rs (smtp9.sbb.rs [89.216.2.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E852FEA for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from knossos (cable-178-148-96-14.dynamic.sbb.rs [178.148.96.14]) by smtp9.sbb.rs (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id r98GfUaq018717 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:41:45 +0200 Received: from localhost (1000@localhost [local]); by knossos (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 1def4bfa; for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:41:01 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: OpenSMTPD enqueuer (Demoosh) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:41:01 +0200 From: Zoran Kolic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is pkg repository for 9.2-RELEASE (amd64)? Message-ID: <20131008164101.GA16071@knossos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 16:41:47 -0000 Yeah!!! 96.47.72.120 works! Thanks! > Depends. Where are your other installed packages from? I'd probably > re-install all of them from the pkg-test repository just to be safe. I installed 9.1 on new node and compiled from ports. It took a long time, which I want to avoid right now. Here is what I consider as steps for 9.2: freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.2-RELEASE freebsd-update install nextboot -k GENERIC freebsd-update install portsnap fetch portsnap extract do all pkg steps freebsd-update install kernel rebuild reboot I might be making some misunderstandings in order of this? Best regards Zoran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 18:22:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A44157 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936CA267E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r98IKf3l067824 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: 9.1 - 9.2 upgrade From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:20:40 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <477C0806-F7C8-498C-AA6C-7D770E05881F@lafn.org> References: <62A8B684-0328-42F5-B9E4-D5DF80563D4D@lafn.org> <1bdf3856902efd917ab9d489c8b6e751@dweimer.net> <2B420332-D26F-4926-A53A-787B110B0EFE@lafn.org> <20131005040802.32af9b73.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131005050307.7bab5735.freebsd@edvax.de> <039B61B6-C918-494C-B327-52E4815660B1@lafn.org> <20131005120809.GB43287@webmail.dweimer.local> To: dweimer@dweimer.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:22:19 -0000 On 8 October 2013, at 06:22, dweimer wrote: > On 10/08/2013 4:27 am, Doug Hardie wrote: >> On 5 October 2013, at 05:08, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 21:49:18 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>> On 4 October 2013, at 20:03, Polytropon wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:42:15 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>>>> On 4 October 2013, at 19:08, Polytropon wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >>>>>>>> The exact sequence was: >>>>>>>> Step 1: freebsd-update from 9.1 to 9.2 >>>>>>> Have you verified in /etc/freebsd-update.conf that "src" >>>>>>> is definitely part of what should be updated? >>>>>> System is not bootable - can't verify anything=85 >>>>> Does the system (or better, its "enclosure", software-wise) >>>>> allow booting a rescue system or an emergency media, such >>>>> as a FreeBSD v9 live system? >>>> Yes - but there is no one there who can successfully be told >>>> how to run it. >>> Not even inserting a USB stick (with the FreeBSD memstick data) >>> or a CD? >>>> We have serious communications issues - they want to use back >>>> slashes and have no idea what a slash is. >>> Maybe that is the result of many years of "administration" on >>> "Windows" PCs. :-) >>>> Even if you tell them which key to use, they know better and >>>> use a back slash cause thats what Windoze uses. >>> Uh... "knowing better" would disqualify them as maintainers of >>> a server installation. The inability to learn (or even to read >>> and follow instructions) is a dangerous thing. >>>> The disk should be in the mail to me now. I will be able to >>>> work with it when it arrives. >>> Okay, that's also a possible alternative. To be honest, that's >>> the first time I hear about this procedure. But doable. >>>>> The file /etc/freebsd-update.conf should contain the line >>>>> Components src world kernel >>>>> if you want to make sure the source is properly updated, >>>>> along with the world and kernel (GENERIC). >>>> As indicated before, I don't think all the source got updated. >>>> The kernel showed 9.2 after recompilation. However UPDATING >>>> was not updated. Thats as much as I could check before. >>> I assume that this could be possible by inconsistently updated >>> sources. It would be a good start to remove /usr/src and download >>> the sources of the correct version via SVN _or_ freebsd-update >>> again. Before the next installation attempt, /usr/obj should be >>> removed as well, just to be sure. >>>>>>>> Step 5: reboot >>>>>>> Attention: Into single-user mode. >>>>>> Not possible since the system is located over 100 miles away. >>>>>> Everything has to be done via remote console. >>>>> Does this mean "SSH only" or do you have a _real_ console >>>>> transmission by which you can access the system _prior_ to >>>>> the OS providing the SSH access? I'm mentioning this because >>>>> the traditional approach requires (few) steps done in the >>>>> single-user mode where no SSH connectivity is provided in >>>>> the "normal" way=85 >>>> I have a telnet box that has serial connections to the console >>>> ports. That approach has been used without any issues since >>>> FreeBSD 2.5. I do disable all ports during the process via an >>>> reduced rc.conf file. >>> A serial console should also work, but even though I've been >>> using serial consoles (and _real_ serial terminals), one thing >>> I'm not sure about: Is it possible to interrupt (!) the boot >>> process at an early stage to get to the loader prompt and >>> boot into single user mode from there? >>> Ok >>> boot -s >>> If not, do you have the "beastie menu" (or whatever it is called >>> today) enabled to go to SUM to perform the "make installworld" step? >>> Anyway, if you can install everything is required with the disk >>> at home, and then send it back to that "datacenter" (according >>> to your characterization, the quotes are deserved), that should >>> solve the problems and make sure everything works as intended. >> The Thick Plottens=85 >> I received the drives and installed them on a working system. The >> failed system is structured with a single partition for the system = and >> another for swap. For some unknown reason, the BIOS got left >> configured to boot the extra disk if its powered up. That turns out >> to be handy. I can boot a working system with the corrupt drive >> powered off. >> Booting from the corrupt drive yields the normal hardware info >> followed by the Beastie image and immediately by a multitude of lines >> (repeated many times): >> Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port >> BIOS drive C: is disk0 >> BIOS drive D: is disk1 >> BIOS 639kB/1037824kB available memory >> FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 >> (doug@zool.lafn.org, Thu Oct 3 04:23:13 PDT 2013) >> Can't work out which disk we are booting from. >> Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to = disk0: >> I was able to capture these by using a serial console connected to >> another computer. The lines only appear on the serial console once. >> They scroll by on the real console many time - all too fast to read >> anything. Then after a few seconds of that, the screen goes black, >> and the system reboots. The cycle then repeats=85 Pressing any key >> does nothing. I even filled the keyboard buffer with spaces hoping = to >> stop boot, but nothing seems to stop it. >> I checked and the freebsd-update.conf include world sys and src. I >> rebuild everything after removing /obj just for grins and giggles. I >> have installed the kernel and world using DESTDIR to put it on the >> corrupt drive. Same messages again. >> I now have the corrupt drive mounted on /mnt and am trying to update >> the src again. Using: >> freebsd-update -b /mnt fetch >> updated files list show /usr/src/sys=85 >> and updating to 9.1-RELEASE-p7 >> freebsd-update -b /mnt install >> This is running slower than molasses in January. Its run for = almost >> 30 minutes and only 3 files have been updated. There must be network >> issues between me and the server. I'll let it run tonight but I am >> going to crash now. Long day. More tomorrow. >> -- Doug >=20 > Have you checked the dmesg output, specifically to see if there are = any disk errors, perhaps the hard drive is about dead. If you are = planning to rebuild world and kernel form source, why not just use svn = or extract the source from the 9.2-RELEASE disk onto the system. There are no hardware errors logged. The drive is only a couple months = old. Smart drive status is good. I tried downloading the src with: svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org/base/releng/9.2 /mnt/usr/src I didn't get Release 9.2. The first entry in UPDATING is: 20130705: hastctl(8)'s `status' command output changed to terse one-liner = format. Scripts using this should switch to `list' command or be = rewritten. There is an entry earlier for Release 9.1. but no entry for Release 9.2. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 18:49:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C172B51 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyzammy@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22c.google.com (mail-ie0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D4FE27EC for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id x13so20423516ief.31 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:49:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pJ5XvfVPGgYwg9RtEsEpUFUY5fedufuYv8GjYbfs7WU=; b=B8nDI4ipkWiBXF9A+uFCJvRUrHO2tnXbGaVWrhEB3pvpN2rS7WTyNBKyB5AiooW2h2 Crp5uT3PyPOIA0Hze+7CK8KTohE2Ee8aGDPT9QK7che5KcdT3XTpuABjUmT69N7ig4R4 MMG9VkfnN+Rm8UwbMf+Lq0pj0894+Ugb+lm0OPF4OhH+bRbvxGTHAG0FlLRZBvL0aht7 WDhFQ7yaBr6zy//WG8x1twHr4sO8Yn7QL3ABIZAyKjzbkZi0UeNU3MFeU2VJSevN4LX7 25XwMkCcmSLrNJezG9qEC9i9TtSrJOH2PDD3h+A/ZSWivjYrawvXZklrcMhUw0je5Oiz aEeA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.126.74 with SMTP id mw10mr22808238igb.24.1381258173626; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.20.232 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:49:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 19:49:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions From: Andy Zammy To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:49:34 -0000 This is actually trickier than it first looked. First I got into single user mode by supplying 'shutdown now', but the tunefs commands all failed with the following: #tunefs -j disable /dev/ada0s1a Clearing journal flags from inode 4 tunefs: Failed to write journal inode: Operation not permitted tunefs: soft updates journalling cleared but soft updates still set. tunefs: remove .sujournal to reclaim space tunefs: /dev/ada0s1a: failed to write superblock I tried the dump command on the off-chance, and it failed with the original errors. Is there anything you can recommend? I then noticed you specified to boot into single user more, so I restarted the machine, with only ada0 attached. Because the handbook wants me to use the mirror/gm0sX devices, I swapped my fstab file back to the original. The boot loader now only seems to recognise the mirror/gm0 nodes, the original ada0sX are gone (though ada0 still shows up). I'm not sure if it's acceptable to do the dump by booting the 1st hard drive using the mirror/gm0, and then dump to the 2nd hard drive by mounting what will be ada1sX. Is this okay to do? On 8 October 2013 01:31, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Andy Zammy wrote: > > Hi, >> >> I used the second section of the handbook (20.4) to create a gmirror. In >> my >> particular setup I had a 1GB /, 6GB swap, 1GB /tmp and the rest of the 1TB >> drive was left for /usr >> >> I had to deviate from the handbook when it came to running the dump + >> restore commands, as the dump failed due to an issue with the journalling. >> To get around this problem, I dropped into single user mode, so I could >> remount root as read-only. The dump commands then worked. It specified in >> the handbook to restart the machine, and boot from ada1. >> >> It was at this point that I noticed something wasn't quite right. There >> was >> a spew of 'not found/no such file or directory' messages. These were all >> trying to reference libs and binaries that live in /usr. >> >> I boot into single user mode, and upon checking the other partitions, I >> notice that /tmp and /usr are empty, apart from a .snap file, and the >> restoresymtable file. >> >> Please could someone help me troubleshoot this problem? Let me know if you >> need any more info, and I'll post it up asap. >> > > dump does not work reliably on filesystems with SUJ enabled. Turn off SUJ > on the filesystems to be dumped by booting in single-user mode and running > tunefs -j disable /dev/ada0whatever > > Do each filesystem, then use dump. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 19:10:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D516914 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 19:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyzammy@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22b.google.com (mail-ie0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D49529D5 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 19:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id at1so20957517iec.30 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8om5xAnUAh3VjHmN1TQ3sBFv4iq/ZTi1stmJsi83lxo=; b=kadcVJNc52TgU+U2DOSaWKyWvIIw17O8q62lbjJSnjwK2xaLqedb/01FJNSfB5JGUH Rn2keTxJmFdcgMu3iwku/s2BiscReoN8LCRQmYS0ITEX2bso8RCWmSzYg6ucyg4zg3jN WgwyEZExc9nZJ4klRCRKKjMtOuqaHPTm56LPL+O9X9Sec2u82YvJrj4jEIYNwRxfMD8D EPnYdcZMhJO9UrZnCYmen2+GngsHle0MOokZYQogZ+lOP34giPORswnI2DV1rzoz1Jdh PNTanc165H1kmgxCU9kuKsGuyDirQW8dlvVwHsrntm8QbY6+9zXMMnKmk2gbL9eS7INC XB2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.126.74 with SMTP id mw10mr22881972igb.24.1381259424753; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.20.232 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.20.232 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:10:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:10:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions From: Andy Zammy To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 19:10:25 -0000 I On 8 October 2013 01:31, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Andy Zammy wrote: > > Hi, >> >> I used the second section of the handbook (20.4) to create a gmirror. In >> my >> particular setup I had a 1GB /, 6GB swap, 1GB /tmp and the rest of the 1TB >> drive was left for /usr >> >> I had to deviate from the handbook when it came to running the dump + >> restore commands, as the dump failed due to an issue with the journalling. >> To get around this problem, I dropped into single user mode, so I could >> remount root as read-only. The dump commands then worked. It specified in >> the handbook to restart the machine, and boot from ada1. >> >> It was at this point that I noticed something wasn't quite right. There >> was >> a spew of 'not found/no such file or directory' messages. These were all >> trying to reference libs and binaries that live in /usr. >> >> I boot into single user mode, and upon checking the other partitions, I >> notice that /tmp and /usr are empty, apart from a .snap file, and the >> restoresymtable file. >> >> Please could someone help me troubleshoot this problem? Let me know if you >> need any more info, and I'll post it up asap. >> > > dump does not work reliably on filesystems with SUJ enabled. Turn off SUJ > on the filesystems to be dumped by booting in single-user mode and running > tunefs -j disable /dev/ada0whatever > > Do each filesystem, then use dump. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 21:59:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11853E9 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A980253A for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r98Lx1q5029835; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:59:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r98Lx1mX029832; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:59:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:59:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Andy Zammy Subject: Re: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:59:01 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 21:59:08 -0000 On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Andy Zammy wrote: > This is actually trickier than it first looked. First I got into single user mode by supplying 'shutdown now', but the tunefs commands all failed with the following: > #tunefs -j disable /dev/ada0s1a > Clearing journal flags from inode 4 > tunefs: Failed to write journal inode: Operation not permitted > tunefs: soft updates journalling cleared but soft updates still set. > tunefs: remove .sujournal to reclaim space > tunefs: /dev/ada0s1a: failed to write superblock > > I tried the dump command on the off-chance, and it failed with the original errors. Is there anything you can recommend? > > I then noticed you specified to boot into single user more, so I restarted the machine, with only ada0 attached. Because the handbook wants me to use the mirror/gm0sX devices, I swapped > my fstab file back to the original. The boot loader now only seems to recognise the mirror/gm0 nodes, the original ada0sX are gone (though ada0 still shows up). I don't know what would do that. The device nodes on the original drive should be untouched until it is added back to the mirror. What does gpart show ada0s1 show? Did you make a backup of the original drive first? Is there an entry for vfs.root.mountfrom in /boot/loader.conf? > I'm not sure if it's acceptable to do the dump by booting the 1st hard > drive using the mirror/gm0, and then dump to the 2nd hard drive by > mounting what will be ada1sX. Is this okay to do? Sorry, I don't quite understand the question. The mirror will not be usable until a good copy of the original drive is made to it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 22:31:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B826F113 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 22:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyzammy@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x232.google.com (mail-ie0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8685B2743 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 22:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id to1so21061671ieb.37 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:31:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aXJWQDU5JcbI+IA4mNoraDKS7ZPciMfwkT2Ae0TSdH8=; b=Nhdf0IZXliwO+riJoz7XzVZHvzOTj+DxwzRwTpMaQjD2Q/duebsp5vpyApKldh2lZl PYzMOciHXS88RYaU6eYFka53l8feG462juzTLkx+ho4yXPP2QeoPV14f5+Cj+gTqCPbT OLDa0sWU+1Y/Yt2UMyV8Gl861EZOu93gFEasfomjA8kw+dlbVcaInbfPR0SX39m25hsU FT/qVZUZLEhL/zti9okI3jp5NljqlMP+uGk7aYff2mmDH3a/K4FgxxV7VSP8e/ibXfCA vfjRC/VSDEfIR/5zelgHRuj+fkUU5KaHiETfMWpeDZluDGe8pX8zK7fObmp/wgjigSyb R/Qg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.6.71 with SMTP id y7mr22880394igy.8.1381271472507; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.20.232 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:31:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:31:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions From: Andy Zammy To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 22:31:13 -0000 # gpart show ada0s1 gpart: No such geom: ada0s1 By the way, this is after a restart of the machine. There's nothing to back up, I'm installing a fresh os, so I just install on one drive, plug the other in, and start following the handbook instructions for this method. So the only thing in loader.conf is geom_mirror_load="YES". I'll rephrase the question: given that the handbook originally wanted me to dump from ada0s1 to the mounted mirror/gm0s1 (which was ada1 at the time), and I cannot do this, would it be enough to dump from mirror/gm0s1 (which is what ada0 is now mounted as), to ada1s1 (even though this *should* be the other way around, it's equivalent as far as i can see, isn't it?)? On 8 October 2013 22:59, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Andy Zammy wrote: > > This is actually trickier than it first looked. First I got into single >> user mode by supplying 'shutdown now', but the tunefs commands all failed >> with the following: >> #tunefs -j disable /dev/ada0s1a >> Clearing journal flags from inode 4 >> tunefs: Failed to write journal inode: Operation not permitted >> tunefs: soft updates journalling cleared but soft updates still set. >> tunefs: remove .sujournal to reclaim space >> tunefs: /dev/ada0s1a: failed to write superblock >> >> I tried the dump command on the off-chance, and it failed with the >> original errors. Is there anything you can recommend? >> >> I then noticed you specified to boot into single user more, so I >> restarted the machine, with only ada0 attached. Because the handbook wants >> me to use the mirror/gm0sX devices, I swapped >> my fstab file back to the original. The boot loader now only seems to >> recognise the mirror/gm0 nodes, the original ada0sX are gone (though ada0 >> still shows up). >> > > I don't know what would do that. The device nodes on the original drive > should be untouched until it is added back to the mirror. What does > gpart show ada0s1 > show? Did you make a backup of the original drive first? Is there an > entry for vfs.root.mountfrom in /boot/loader.conf? > > I'm not sure if it's acceptable to do the dump by booting the 1st hard >> drive using the mirror/gm0, and then dump to the 2nd hard drive by mounting >> what will be ada1sX. Is this okay to do? >> > > Sorry, I don't quite understand the question. The mirror will not be > usable until a good copy of the original drive is made to it. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 22:35:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EDA22E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 22:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@sdf.org) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E278A278F for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 22:35:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IJyA+3TG c=1 sm=0 a=s99JP9nkuyUZgdwK7wvnJA==:17 a=LEup1id8KFYA:10 a=7RHBbx4iXqoA:10 a=6lBslN5KadwA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=oX08kPI8AAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=04vDxN6sAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=xlxrHHqegAAG1I40eCEA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=4wfsiePOASQA:10 a=s99JP9nkuyUZgdwK7wvnJA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 72.132.160.201 Received: from [72.132.160.201] ([72.132.160.201:45656] helo=bsdfull.Belkin) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E0/A3-21491-FB884525; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 22:35:43 +0000 Message-ID: <525488BE.20803@sdf.org> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:35:42 -0700 From: cary User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0 SeaMonkey/2.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 - 9.2 upgrade References: <62A8B684-0328-42F5-B9E4-D5DF80563D4D@lafn.org> <1bdf3856902efd917ab9d489c8b6e751@dweimer.net> <2B420332-D26F-4926-A53A-787B110B0EFE@lafn.org> <20131005040802.32af9b73.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131005050307.7bab5735.freebsd@edvax.de> <039B61B6-C918-494C-B327-52E4815660B1@lafn.org> <20131005120809.GB43287@webmail.dweimer.local> <477C0806-F7C8-498C-AA6C-7D770E05881F@lafn.org> In-Reply-To: <477C0806-F7C8-498C-AA6C-7D770E05881F@lafn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 22:35:50 -0000 Doug Hardie wrote: >>> The Thick Plottens… >>> I received the drives and installed them on a working system. The >>> failed system is structured with a single partition for the system and >>> another for swap. For some unknown reason, the BIOS got left >>> configured to boot the extra disk if its powered up. That turns out >>> to be handy. I can boot a working system with the corrupt drive >>> powered off. >>> Booting from the corrupt drive yields the normal hardware info >>> followed by the Beastie image and immediately by a multitude of lines >>> (repeated many times): >>> Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port >>> BIOS drive C: is disk0 >>> BIOS drive D: is disk1 >>> BIOS 639kB/1037824kB available memory >>> FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 >>> (doug@zool.lafn.org, Thu Oct 3 04:23:13 PDT 2013) >>> Can't work out which disk we are booting from. >>> Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to disk0: >>> I was able to capture these by using a serial console connected to >>> another computer. The lines only appear on the serial console once. >>> They scroll by on the real console many time - all too fast to read >>> anything. Then after a few seconds of that, the screen goes black, >>> and the system reboots. The cycle then repeats… Pressing any key >>> does nothing. I even filled the keyboard buffer with spaces hoping to >>> stop boot, but nothing seems to stop it. >>> I checked and the freebsd-update.conf include world sys and src. I >>> rebuild everything after removing /obj just for grins and giggles. I >>> have installed the kernel and world using DESTDIR to put it on the >>> corrupt drive. Same messages again. >>> I now have the corrupt drive mounted on /mnt and am trying to update >>> the src again. Using: >>> freebsd-update -b /mnt fetch >>> updated files list show /usr/src/sys… >>> and updating to 9.1-RELEASE-p7 >>> freebsd-update -b /mnt install >>> This is running slower than molasses in January. Its run for almost >>> 30 minutes and only 3 files have been updated. There must be network >>> issues between me and the server. I'll let it run tonight but I am >>> going to crash now. Long day. More tomorrow. >>> -- Doug >> >> Have you checked the dmesg output, specifically to see if there are any disk errors, perhaps the hard drive is about dead. If you are planning to rebuild world and kernel form source, why not just use svn or extract the source from the 9.2-RELEASE disk onto the system. > > There are no hardware errors logged. The drive is only a couple months old. Smart drive status is good. > > I tried downloading the src with: > > svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org/base/releng/9.2 /mnt/usr/src > > I didn't get Release 9.2. The first entry in UPDATING is: > > 20130705: > hastctl(8)'s `status' command output changed to terse one-liner format. > Scripts using this should switch to `list' command or be rewritten. > > > There is an entry earlier for Release 9.1. but no entry for Release 9.2. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Hello Doug, Here is a more recent version of the file on svn: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/9/UPDATING?revision=255900&view=markup Earlier today I also checked out base for releng/9.2 from the same mirror, svn0.us-west. My UPDATING file is outdated too. Time of the last entry is 20130705. The mirror told me that I had checked out revision 256150. When running "freebsd-update upgrade -r RELEASE-9.2" last night it gave : > WARNING: This system is running a "customcl" kernel, which is not a kernel configuration distributed as part of FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE. This kernel will not be updated: you MUST update the kernel manually before running "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install". > That might have been expected, but I have read on this list that freebsd-update will sometimes automatically replace a custom kernel with a generic, and in /etc/freebsd-update.conf I had the line: Components src world kernel . HTH, Cary -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org ------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 23:03:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3763211F for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE7022940 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r98N35KT030501; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:03:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r98N35I4030498; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:03:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:03:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Andy Zammy Subject: Re: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:03:05 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:03:07 -0000 On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Andy Zammy wrote: > > Thanks very much. Please could I make a suggestion that this be included in the handbook page? Please do not top-post, it makes replies more difficult. I have added a warning about SUJ to the top of the gmirror section in the Handbook. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 23:11:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB28F37E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AB2829B9 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r98NBXVm030583; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:11:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r98NBXbU030580; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:11:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:11:33 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Andy Zammy Subject: Re: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:11:33 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:11:34 -0000 On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Andy Zammy wrote: > # gpart show ada0s1 > gpart: No such geom: ada0s1 > > By the way, this is after a restart of the machine. > > There's nothing to back up, I'm installing a fresh os, so I just install on one drive, plug the other in, and start following the handbook instructions for this method. So the only > thing in loader.conf is geom_mirror_load="YES". > > I'll rephrase the question: given that the handbook originally wanted me to dump from ada0s1 to the mounted mirror/gm0s1 (which was ada1 at the time), and I cannot do this, would it be > enough to dump from mirror/gm0s1 (which is what ada0 is now mounted as), to ada1s1 (even though this *should* be the other way around, it's equivalent as far as i can see, isn't it?)? There is not much point in dumping from the mirror to another drive. The dump/restore is how the single drive is copied to the mirror. On a fresh install, use the Shell mode of the installer to set up the mirror, then install directly to it. There are some instructions on mountpoints in the bsdinstall man page. This will avoid the lag of waiting for the second drive to sync. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 23:27:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAB0B6A for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F7572A7C for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VTggn-0000pY-6d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:27:41 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:27:41 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:27:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 19:27:23 -0400 Lines: 76 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:27:47 -0000 Andy Zammy wrote: > # gpart show ada0s1 > gpart: No such geom: ada0s1 > > By the way, this is after a restart of the machine. > > There's nothing to back up, I'm installing a fresh os, so I just install > on one drive, plug the other in, and start following the handbook > instructions for this method. So the only thing in loader.conf is > geom_mirror_load="YES". > [snip] Since you are beginning to reinstall from scratch, please allow/forgive a small interjection from some of my recent experience with this. Warren is more knowledgeable on this than I am, and I have followed many of his instructions in the past. With the shift towards GPT and away from the old DOS mbr/partition table stuff of the past, the current Handbook pages reflect this. The central point of contention arises from the fact that GPT, GEOM (gmirror), and many hardware RAID controllers require to claim the very last sector of a drive to store their metadata. Obviously, the effect of this collision is a "whoever wrote last wrote best" - so you can't use combinations of things that all want this sector. The most simple gmirroring is to slice an entire drive, with partitions contained within. The very end of the drive must NOT have any file system on it, and this is usually the case by default as most of the time slicing/partitioning leaves a little free space at the end anyway. This will not work with GPT; only with the old DOS compatible mbr and disklabel scheme. In order to use GPT and gmirror together you gmirror individual partitions (as opposed to the slice) , e.g. gmirror will write its metadata at the end of each partition leaving the very last sector at the end of the drive for GPT. This is what the content on the relevant Handbook pages reflects. More complicated, but allows for the demise of the ancient DOS/mbr partitioning. Notice that if you combine GPT and a hardware RAID controller card the same collision problem noted previously can still happen. If you utilize the BIOS on the controller card for anything it will save its metadata on the last drive sector. When not faced with terabyte sized humongous volumes and the huge amount of time an fsck will consume, the old DOS way with disklabel is still an option that works. The main reason for the journaling is to sidestep waiting for a very long fsck on a huge volume to run to completion before finishing a boot into a cleaned up/repaired file system. If your drive volume is small this is not so much a problem. Indeed my old gateway/firewall/IDS router box I did the old DOS/mbr scheme with gmirror (the old single-slice entire drive and mirror the drive) as the pair of drives are ancient 74GB Raptors. On my web/database test box I did go the GPT and SUJ+journaling route but am not using any mirroring here (yet). I have not experienced any problems with dump - but I also do not use the -L switch. It will show an error/warning about not dumping a live file system this way but I go ahead and do it anyway. IIRC the dump problem you may be seeing may be related to drive snapshotting. The caveat is I can sort of 'get away' with it as my boxen are largely quiescent, but would hesitate to do this on something like a public web/database box that was continually being hammered with lots of traffic. Just tossing out some ideas for your perusal and consideration. The way I used the old DOS/mbr and disklabel scheme on my router machine is very simple, quick to do, and has survived a few power outages now with no data loss (other than the time it takes to rebuild which it does automagically on boot). On the 74GB Raptors this rebuild takes about twenty minutes. Your situation and needs may force you in a different direction. Hence, the proverbial "YMMV" applies. FWIW. Now for to finally get around to purchasing a new UPS to replace the old one that went up in smoke and died horribly... -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 23:40:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27722DEF for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9A892B22 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-65.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02F003C7CC; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 01:40:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r98NeSYQ001978; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 01:40:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 01:40:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: 9.1 - 9.2 upgrade Message-Id: <20131009014028.093f884d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <477C0806-F7C8-498C-AA6C-7D770E05881F@lafn.org> References: <62A8B684-0328-42F5-B9E4-D5DF80563D4D@lafn.org> <1bdf3856902efd917ab9d489c8b6e751@dweimer.net> <2B420332-D26F-4926-A53A-787B110B0EFE@lafn.org> <20131005040802.32af9b73.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131005050307.7bab5735.freebsd@edvax.de> <039B61B6-C918-494C-B327-52E4815660B1@lafn.org> <20131005120809.GB43287@webmail.dweimer.local> <477C0806-F7C8-498C-AA6C-7D770E05881F@lafn.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:40:43 -0000 On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:20:40 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: > I tried downloading the src with: > > svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org/base/releng/9.2 /mnt/usr/src > > I didn't get Release 9.2. The first entry in UPDATING is: > > 20130705: > hastctl(8)'s `status' command output changed to terse one-liner format. > Scripts using this should switch to `list' command or be rewritten. > > > There is an entry earlier for Release 9.1. but no entry for Release 9.2. You could try downloading and extracting the "src" distribution: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/9.2-RELEASE/src.txz -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 23:55:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A9DF72 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@sdf.org) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA272BA7 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:55:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Rs5H3VaK c=1 sm=0 a=s99JP9nkuyUZgdwK7wvnJA==:17 a=LEup1id8KFYA:10 a=7RHBbx4iXqoA:10 a=6lBslN5KadwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=oX08kPI8AAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=lK2v90epAAAA:8 a=M4ykssKEAAAA:8 a=_T6iP-kyA48AtTVjOr8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gE9-Xc6gKrgA:10 a=4wfsiePOASQA:10 a=s99JP9nkuyUZgdwK7wvnJA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 72.132.160.201 Received: from [72.132.160.201] ([72.132.160.201:19317] helo=bsdfull.Belkin) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BB/1B-07811-F7B94525; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:55:43 +0000 Message-ID: <52549B7E.1080207@sdf.org> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 16:55:42 -0700 From: cary User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0 SeaMonkey/2.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 - 9.2 upgrade References: <62A8B684-0328-42F5-B9E4-D5DF80563D4D@lafn.org> <1bdf3856902efd917ab9d489c8b6e751@dweimer.net> <2B420332-D26F-4926-A53A-787B110B0EFE@lafn.org> <20131005040802.32af9b73.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131005050307.7bab5735.freebsd@edvax.de> <039B61B6-C918-494C-B327-52E4815660B1@lafn.org> <20131005120809.GB43287@webmail.dweimer.local> <477C0806-F7C8-498C-AA6C-7D770E05881F@lafn.org> <20131009014028.093f884d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131009014028.093f884d.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:55:44 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:20:40 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >> I tried downloading the src with: >> >> svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org/base/releng/9.2 /mnt/usr/src >> >> I didn't get Release 9.2. The first entry in UPDATING is: >> >> 20130705: >> hastctl(8)'s `status' command output changed to terse one-liner format. >> Scripts using this should switch to `list' command or be rewritten. >> >> >> There is an entry earlier for Release 9.1. but no entry for Release 9.2. > > You could try downloading and extracting the "src" distribution: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/9.2-RELEASE/src.txz > > > > Yes, that might have been simpler. Knew there had to be some other way. :) -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org ------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 00:28:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2169C6 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 00:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyzammy@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x231.google.com (mail-lb0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C41BC2D2B for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 00:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id w7so151059lbi.36 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:28:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=TrQsmq5C5kfRkx+nyt0ltPGLPoqVlA+gz+isNA8FLs0=; b=JTUZ6eJ73w9msFq5kkNMEjPRB6JbcwasS1YGeFJLyRhGRb6ta96I13bw0L7hL8vcTo 78gT/XLzA8iNxP2J2lFVLB2ftUtDXJCosMxZJ6iQbDWhn7aaYA/Z0hDsfzAyxxg+h0xp aazi93izkicl/Qk01j2VFec2txDXWgauPcVWGTB+wseq45eer8ILhjli41I5op+xoxIB ynkcfyvpJVnMx9qYIHYUlB85tnqfQKwWPem5phXCGGy7eyuABPXhInlWla9/0AI9abBy /nJsrsowZSKuD2b/c1eW5bI9RrmH/9hYofcT236Oc7U+kBtgV1K6VtOSSXHaTunvuA7K 4AVw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.88.74 with SMTP id be10mr3765934lab.4.1381278507623; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.79.70 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:28:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 01:28:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: failed to create gmirror with the handbook instructions From: Andy Zammy To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 00:28:30 -0000 I tried creating the mirror before the install. As the drives are now mirrored, the installer picked up on the face that there are two gm0 nodes - one on each hard drive. I installed onto ada0's gm0 node. After it reboots, the bootloader stops at the manual prompt. From what I can see that's not dissapeared up the screen, it tried and failed to mount from mirror/gm0s1a with error 19. I had to mount from ada0s1a in order for the boot to get further, but as it's been installed to boot from gm0s1x, it stops after it mounts /. After having checked my partition setup many times at this point, I know for a fact there's a rather large 500MB section free at the end of my hard drives with this partition set up. Is there any reason I can't just install as normal, do a 'gmirror label gm0 ada0', and then do a 'gmirror insert gm0 ada1', before changing my fstab to use mirror/gm0? I can't see why dumping and restoring is necessary, it's just manually doing what gmirror is there for in the first place. Correct me if I'm wrong :) On 9 October 2013 00:11, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Andy Zammy wrote: > > # gpart show ada0s1 >> gpart: No such geom: ada0s1 >> >> By the way, this is after a restart of the machine. >> >> There's nothing to back up, I'm installing a fresh os, so I just install >> on one drive, plug the other in, and start following the handbook >> instructions for this method. So the only >> thing in loader.conf is geom_mirror_load="YES". >> >> I'll rephrase the question: given that the handbook originally wanted me >> to dump from ada0s1 to the mounted mirror/gm0s1 (which was ada1 at the >> time), and I cannot do this, would it be >> enough to dump from mirror/gm0s1 (which is what ada0 is now mounted as), >> to ada1s1 (even though this *should* be the other way around, it's >> equivalent as far as i can see, isn't it?)? >> > > There is not much point in dumping from the mirror to another drive. The > dump/restore is how the single drive is copied to the mirror. > > On a fresh install, use the Shell mode of the installer to set up the > mirror, then install directly to it. There are some instructions on > mountpoints in the bsdinstall man page. This will avoid the lag of waiting > for the second drive to sync. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 03:32:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56427D4A for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 03:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@skew.org) Received: from chilled.skew.org (chilled.skew.org [70.90.116.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AAD525F6 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 03:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chilled.skew.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chilled.skew.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r993Weqf098246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:32:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mike@chilled.skew.org) Received: (from mike@localhost) by chilled.skew.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r993We9X098245; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:32:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mike) From: Mike Brown Message-Id: <201310090332.r993We9X098245@chilled.skew.org> Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 In-Reply-To: To: alexus Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:32:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Whoa: whoa. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL126 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:32:48 -0000 alexus wrote: > ok, I just did fetch & install and got bumped from p5 to p9 > > # uname -a > FreeBSD XX.XXXXX.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 > 19:47:58 UTC 2012 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > # > > can I take it all the way to -p12? -p10 through -p12 probably didn't involve any kernel changes. Bumping the reported patchlevel isn't considered important enough to warrant building a new kernel. If your sources are in /usr/src, do this: grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 04:43:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FD7C9D for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 04:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yudi.tux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x232.google.com (mail-la0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 728DC290B for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 04:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id gx14so220443lab.9 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 21:43:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T+Tdc6Rgd+bZZSoNNJRLLkOEq36Jym3UrQJ0axWZN70=; b=VqhPEzcZ8gOMuAFZWBpdC2z/3Xix5qD6mf67x0/PcrfzN+Osm44/5cnIDWFOF9l2y8 rXpzMKe4eo+6hPwWcKH5YzvQ2eOQujx/UlQn8O6c2TC9tDUep2y0WYiuuJm5E2xpWWPr i9wOfaDtHIycf9Kfhj8y9cfAQy3qzv2kLRUqmlHCQpOpRSHdbiATVj3N73F/4sfrjzd/ i0YkfenhPnNpS3Qs1jhACa2hDWguQNyqgt5jYi8JpYKF7DiRhRV5JKVTLa+VC/IEY5XL G1ta/Aes0hR2G5GD69O35QIDcKKJu1rDSr7EVVveHBRin+KVi3eYxTM3EYlryOSk7so5 EHBw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.3.42 with SMTP id 10mr4651030laz.22.1381293836465; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 21:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.82.4 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:43:56 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Geli and ZFS From: yudi v To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 04:43:58 -0000 * * ------------------------------ There are few different ways to set-up geli with ZFS. I just want to get some opinions (benefits and disadvantages) about the below two options *First option*: (most commonly encountered set-up) Have geli on the block device and ZFS on top of the geli provider. * Second option:* Create a ZFS Volume on a block device, then create geli provider on top of the ZFS volume, and finally, ZFS datasets on top. Generally, it's recommended to let ZFS manage the whole disk if possible, so I was wondering if the second option is better. I will be using couple of 3TB HDDs mirrored for data and want to encrypt them. 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The first entry in UPDATING is: >>=20 >> 20130705: >> hastctl(8)'s `status' command output changed to terse = one-liner format. >> Scripts using this should switch to `list' command or be = rewritten. >>=20 >>=20 >> There is an entry earlier for Release 9.1. but no entry for Release = 9.2. >=20 > You could try downloading and extracting the "src" distribution: >=20 > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/9.2-RELEASE/src.txz Before I saw this I built from the src obtained via svn. The system now = boots. I still have no idea what was preventing it from booting. It = was something between displaying the Beastie menu and waiting for user = input. There had to be at least 2 issues as the messages changed after = the first attempt to rebuild the system. I tried to chase down the boot = code for the first error message and it appears to be generated when = there is a problem with a directory. I couldn't find any further = diagnostic info to identify the directory. I have not yet tried to = chase down the second set of messages in the source. The system now says its 9.2. UPDATING still looks the same. = Interestingly enough, on another system that I updated earlier to 9.2 = via freebsd-update, UPDATING there is identical to the one on this = system. There is no 9.2 entry. =20 Also of note is that most of the ports/packages are still present. = However SASL2 vanished without a trace. Its easily replaced, but why is = certainly interesting. I have no ideas at this point. 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[137.222.187.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dq11sm13411469wid.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Anton Shterenlikht Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r999X1EW008884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 10:33:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6/Submit) id r999X1sL008883 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 10:33:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 10:33:01 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201310090933.r999X1sL008883@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: gpart weirdness: diskid/DISK-3EV0P4PZ00007250010X GPT (17G) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 09:57:50 -0000 # gpart show => 34 35566411 da1 GPT (17G) 34 35566411 - free - (17G) => 34 35566411 diskid/DISK-3EV0P4PZ00007250010X GPT (17G) 34 35566411 - free - (17G) => 34 35566411 da2 GPT (17G) 34 35566411 - free - (17G) => 34 35566411 diskid/DISK-3EV0PWCX000072500ZNJ GPT (17G) 34 35566411 - free - (17G) # This is on ia64 10.0-CURRENT #5 r255488. Both disks appear twice in gpart show output. Is there some corruption in gpart data. What am I do to? Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 10:47:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FA34B4 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 10:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kartik1955@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com (mail-pa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E68C2C5E for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 10:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id fb1so860648pad.9 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:47:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GWq5wgsWFq5Bzw99udwRYc5RbpU52CpvQs0R9NrYO/c=; b=pyiOYULNhk2ABMiaCjMOn5WXOdlkD+9M2hTm8bvxhdI9u9aKjF/f4eOwnGNZYoKgcy /BbRzldQI8WsZcFhPooyFMhEqM/jFgWQuRHRNBXdHhn+IE4LBHps8MAwIu2SRBYi/6tD a5kzi6Ec2+iX7ZsYrN2uECRu65LBIjCm2RxOaMki9XnrUFiwr/kXarkmJZoFZPzObLuk A5h2Wv9wuXv38DXfdiUsx/YHbR3EdvKmjllW2xPpwpBh8iD/BbD958y9MNwfJifjMOcQ rBJT3sI3GnzaMO0q5/x1azBS6Qw6FSknela6cfpZZgjBOTnslVhEwT9Hwvum6MYYdLZI m4hQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.204.5 with SMTP id ku5mr7224641pbc.88.1381315671714; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.126.105 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 03:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:17:51 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Booting problem From: Babu Kartik To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 10:47:53 -0000 Dear Sir, Please be kind enough to provide solution to the following problem. I have an old, assembled desk top loaded with win7 ultimate. It has got 80 GB hard disk and 1 GB RAM. Earlier there was XP. That time CD drive was not working at all. Subsequently I upgraded to win7. After few days suddenly I discovered that CD drive was working. I could burn files also through this drive. Though booting was not possible from CD. After few days suddenly, system stopped loading win7. I wanted to re install win7, but was not possible without the option of booting from CD. Whenever I tried to boot, one welcome screen and another screen came after one beep each and then it halts with a blank screen. I prepared a bootable USB drive with XP with an intention to install XP and thereafter upgrade to win7 (instructions for XP alone was available in the internet). After preparing the USB, I checked it in another system to see if it was working. In the BIOS there is no option to boot from USB. So I disabled all three boot options (Floppy, CD, HDD) and enabled =93other=94 boot option and tried to boot from USB. Out of my nearly ten attempts, only twice, USB drive was displayed in the boot menu as a boot option, though it did not boot from it. Presently system does not boot either from HDD or from CD or from USB.(Floppy drive is not active since the relative cable is missing). My question is:- 1. Why should the boot menu display the USB drive only twice? Only in case of a loose connection such things can happen. I believe there is no question of any loose connection here. So either it should display all the time or it should not display at all. There is no specific option in the BIOS for booting from USB. If that means system does not support USB booting, then it should not have come in the boot menu at all. Fact that it appeared in the boot menu, means system supports booting from USB. 2. Why does not the system boot? I have a feeling that perhaps there is a component which is responsible for detecting drives or booting in general was failing slowly because of which CD drive was not working (when XP was there) and there after it was not booting from CD and again there after it stopped booting altogether from all the drives. Can there be a problem with mother board? 3. Someone told me that, in case of RAM failure, system will not start the boot process at all. Here since boot process goes few steps producing two screens and two beeps, perhaps it is trying to boot but why unable to detect the drives. 4. There are two separate cables for hard disk and CD drive. CD drive is primary and hard disk secondary. When I exchange the cables, it is reflected in the BIOS that is CD drive becomes secondary and vice versa. That means BIOS is recognizing the drives. 5. I tried with different boot order in the BIOS as well as by making the BIOS setting as default. 6. I tried the installation CD, so there is no question of whether the CD is bootable or not. Similarly if MBR is corrupt, it should give problem only for HDD booting and not for others like CD and USB. Then where is the problem? 7. Why doesn=92t any error message displayed during boot process? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 11:53:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AA554B for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F19922076 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9892620FF2 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:53:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=AVSLZLB0fxj9NBuMmonrFNEa7to=; b=sbT DDm4AdPxiKoyo5Yz/JMjXhwTIsdUmrLu/EUcWp4IWVKendERvASsvkbWuKsr4txs EkWjBuaDO4MV7CkdT2YwdYRpyRwVzWVV3iQf8vJ/tYbLpF0txR3mCZLTUwne7w42 dUeWXNK02nUky4J1A0W7ZwpoVdTsmSRtYODLquv4= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 745811135F1; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1381319612.7993.31881209.07B76A5A@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: pWznNJA+J6ZWuluQ1Q43xXEds2LoSjDricr1uHq8MBOA 1381319612 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 In-Reply-To: <201310090332.r993We9X098245@chilled.skew.org> References: <201310090332.r993We9X098245@chilled.skew.org> Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 06:53:32 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 11:53:34 -0000 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 22:32, Mike Brown wrote: > alexus wrote: > > ok, I just did fetch & install and got bumped from p5 to p9 > > > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD XX.XXXXX.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 > > 19:47:58 UTC 2012 > > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > amd64 > > # > > > > can I take it all the way to -p12? > > -p10 through -p12 probably didn't involve any kernel changes. Bumping the > reported patchlevel isn't considered important enough to warrant building > a > new kernel. > > If your sources are in /usr/src, do this: > > grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 > If he had sources on the box he probably would have just compiled the fixes himself. The version number shouldn't be embedded in the kernel like that so it's easier for people to audit their systems. I have VMs right now in Xen that report different FreeBSD versions and it's confusing for other sysadmins who aren't intimately familiar with FreeBSD. Some were updated by freebsd-update, some were updated by src. But they don't report the same OS version so I get asked why we haven't updated those servers yet.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 11:56:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F2E614 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEE3E2090 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id C979B2121C for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:56:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :references; s=smtpout; bh=eSFlsZ1uU/oms88/Gg4KbzEnjRo=; b=P0j1P ZCidbpVdoCIBAk+G1UElPsJcwbWTp+BxC4tz3b5Ljwch+PLKp7QPOck/5M5zFVWM PKgFonI54QhfPuYuBF+jRO+EoEGhju36HvlzViw4/KSM/lN9QmE+9psGnK0OUphI 38/msqxhVK1Z7opHFEUQogf7cW9x/lMu48PID4= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id AC4B411362D; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1381319777.9092.31882649.693FBA08@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: 8oDLnl77kAinANdBlZCWrBIOjzO5WfmOvf1GIwjs9x5B 1381319777 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 Subject: Re: gpart weirdness: diskid/DISK-3EV0P4PZ00007250010X GPT (17G) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 06:56:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: <201310090933.r999X1sL008883@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <201310090933.r999X1sL008883@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 11:56:19 -0000 On Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 4:33, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > # gpart show > => 34 35566411 da1 GPT (17G) > 34 35566411 - free - (17G) > > => 34 35566411 diskid/DISK-3EV0P4PZ00007250010X GPT (17G) > 34 35566411 - free - (17G) > > => 34 35566411 da2 GPT (17G) > 34 35566411 - free - (17G) > > => 34 35566411 diskid/DISK-3EV0PWCX000072500ZNJ GPT (17G) > 34 35566411 - free - (17G) > > # > This is normal. Gpart is showing you both the physical dev versions of the devices and the GPT label versions of the devices. I'll admit it can be confusing, though. 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[137.222.187.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e5sm14603203wiy.2.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 05:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Anton Shterenlikht Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r99C1Vc1009612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Oct 2013 13:01:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6/Submit) id r99C1Vr6009611; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 13:01:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 13:01:31 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201310091201.r99C1Vr6009611@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: feld@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpart weirdness: diskid/DISK-3EV0P4PZ00007250010X GPT (17G) In-Reply-To: <1381319777.9092.31882649.693FBA08@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 12:09:15 -0000 >From: Mark Felder >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: gpart weirdness: diskid/DISK-3EV0P4PZ00007250010X GPT (17G) >Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 06:56:17 -0500 > >On Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 4:33, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> # gpart show >> => 34 35566411 da1 GPT (17G) >> 34 35566411 - free - (17G) >> >> => 34 35566411 diskid/DISK-3EV0P4PZ00007250010X GPT (17G) >> 34 35566411 - free - (17G) >> >> => 34 35566411 da2 GPT (17G) >> 34 35566411 - free - (17G) >> >> => 34 35566411 diskid/DISK-3EV0PWCX000072500ZNJ GPT (17G) >> 34 35566411 - free - (17G) >> >> # >> > >This is normal. Gpart is showing you both the physical dev versions of >the devices and the GPT label versions of the devices. I'll admit it can >be confusing, though. Well, I haven't seen this before. And it only shows this for some disks, not all: # gpart show => 34 143374671 da0 GPT (68G) 34 409600 1 efi (200M) 409634 142965071 2 freebsd-ufs (68G) => 34 35566411 da1 GPT (17G) 34 35566411 - free - (17G) => 34 35566411 da2 GPT (17G) 34 35566411 - free - (17G) => 34 142255508 da3 GPT (67G) 34 142255508 1 freebsd-ufs (67G) => 34 35566411 diskid/DISK-3EV0P4PZ00007250010X GPT (17G) 34 35566411 - free - (17G) => 34 35566411 diskid/DISK-3EV0PWCX000072500ZNJ GPT (17G) 34 35566411 - free - (17G) => 34 142255508 da4 GPT (67G) 34 142255508 1 freebsd-swap (67G) => 34 142255508 da5 GPT (67G) 34 142255508 1 freebsd-ufs (67G) => 34 286744118 da6 GPT (136G) 34 286744118 1 freebsd-ufs (136G) # Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 13:36:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAEC66C for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 13:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76636271D for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 13:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.232] by nm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2013 13:36:04 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.94] by tm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2013 13:36:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp131.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2013 13:36:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s1024; t=1381325764; bh=K+MbIrqSEcMZjfoVnAHrOf0fWtwCzhj11uoV/WdC6yc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Disposition-Notification-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4RhkUtlVGKt8PC7/9x9CgpOj32IZ6G0MiUV7OImQa05iVGblybJO7LLNPBjLvoQ1InUA/oKP1baEAQ2zjc+KObxQALF1KocYQiQ8H/rkguhn/RxDcd/SjQf66M2v1hblMx2K77MD1aEMiZtV8gh51gH2P1RS2p9wHJ/BAF0QVDM= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 472431.94909.bm@smtp131.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-YMail-OSG: HSAy6AMVM1nR17Tn0WJVe4veRRXzPCkCBSqxvp.U1Jw49d8 nWMtAvKcNWrrE3sWUNaBMpwf924FYD8Uynu2NdL1E3XabVOnoqnNJcJKV9Jx JxztghE71gdO8bMhXl8xJXq.mkoGbLqvv17ysDAa7EoUcp3C2GnjGhiLh.9U eiTy_JFtQzM0_sJL9PFVpL.pdvI.d64gnsKHmjN7Z_pHQOX.6_oGHvgL7Veu r.yvKr.H5MCr6VXMDI4t34BiPzqxoO63kSc2jQr9qUf7vrZoKuBGvUeKjZVN mIg3g8.9lKcxjQbPto4j8XUeDc6cZnfo_.5A881BWousiovt_M9uPlmcFaPV L.7PU47TdWPs8YNlbShqy9ea19XX5U_DRRcPNE55tYOFtW8ep6HD4x2kJTDg IABprK48nGEnuwhvuFcs13hjrMCBxcnDDorEC5sZxsie1aFvMGsEPngVzU6i 9AjPqXGmjTvaYmVWuKN327A0RaTvNWTO0Siqj4jxyvOur54SL7IAaUE9uN8d GExSba8QXvAbssnmf.pw.UFhmP.7IfEf.87pyT551x7BR96hMqRtwQYg8gSt tPORplSiaILxe2VG0FyhnvoW5hA.qjCA3 X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR X-Rocket-Received: from camibar.emorras.eu (emorrasg@89.7.216.154 with ) by smtp131.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Oct 2013 13:36:04 +0000 UTC Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 15:36:05 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Message-Id: <20131009153605.3c6524c8a1ce44965a54ae6a@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <201310090332.r993We9X098245@chilled.skew.org> References: <201310090332.r993We9X098245@chilled.skew.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:36:14 -0000 On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:32:39 -0600 (MDT) Mike Brown wrote: > alexus wrote: > > ok, I just did fetch & install and got bumped from p5 to p9 > > > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD XX.XXXXX.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 > > 19:47:58 UTC 2012 > > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > amd64 > > # > > > > can I take it all the way to -p12? > > -p10 through -p12 probably didn't involve any kernel changes. Bumping the > reported patchlevel isn't considered important enough to warrant building a > new kernel. That there's no kernel changes doesn't mean that uname -a info is not updated. If you update the system from p5 to current (p12), and it shows p9 instead p12 the first thing you think is that something on the system update went wrong, not that everything was fine except the update of the file that uname -a reads. If release info patch is p12, it must update the whole system to p12. If you update an app from 2.24.1 to 2.24.2 and doing 'app -v' shows 2.24.1 it means something went wrong, not that update only modified config files and not the binary. > > If your sources are in /usr/src, do this: > > grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 No, uname -a should give the correct answer. Has uname other utility than show information about the operating system implementation? No, and it must be accurate. --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 14:11:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA5A5D0 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from opendaddy@hushmail.com) Received: from smtp1.hushmail.com (smtp1.hushmail.com [65.39.178.135]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91E742943 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 832FA40103 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w6.hushmail.com [65.39.178.92]) by smtp1.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 6558F6018E; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:11:38 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:11:38 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help vote for FreeBSD From: opendaddy@hushmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20131009141138.6558F6018E@smtp.hushmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:11:44 -0000 Hi, Could you guys help vote for FreeBSD over at Digital Ocean? https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os- Basically it's the only SSD cloud hosting provider (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHZLCahai4Q) in existence and if the response is good enough, they'll start offering FreeBSD. Thanks! O.D. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 14:24:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78B5FF4 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x236.google.com (mail-ob0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B243C2AF8 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wn1so653792obc.41 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:24:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5wUhjusNNjplQRVNurnUdY6PKgi9+DlEjO0w+5qHj4Y=; b=ytEtOTUZRgZjrS0c2y7nZvJ3wfCzdQDPVD2U1h6lWsNkGUU1jNzKvq4OjhwwllD6x2 RsSvcoKHVAgEnVs1z4qNW0j2NMX7D6Fe3BqdfslNr6bPfrNec7pTZpkCw4/M1EJU0CVp +zphjlIQPXM73CnWYh7LHlO4Ldp1BVnsRsrabR2TyGqGAWkZ2raaTE9HuYvVvyqMOfUm kRrEbzZ5mHCd5cyjKo99+fBHzr71PDVo6fnaPK5fIrNWjYlG1L5Vx+HvCdVLBfIBImDc L5RKm+hwEBFNPbNjczcbRcZo2vbmXJvkc6At7pzNKMn1gUbGbsFYOES0ah44M9kVCvTp gdjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.53.196 with SMTP id d4mr6107640obp.7.1381328652348; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.13.228 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:24:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20131009141138.6558F6018E@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20131009141138.6558F6018E@smtp.hushmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 10:24:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help vote for FreeBSD From: Outback Dingo To: opendaddy@hushmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:24:15 -0000 On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:11 AM, wrote: > Hi, > > Could you guys help vote for FreeBSD over at Digital Ocean? > > > https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os- > > Basically it's the only SSD cloud hosting provider ( > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHZLCahai4Q) in existence and if the > response is good enough, they'll start offering FreeBSD. > > Thanks! > > uhmmm their not the only SSD cloud provider, and though its a shame they dont provide FreeBSD while others do..... I do know of another with support for 8, 9, and 10 FreeBSD with SSD storage. matter of fact their whole SAN is FreeBSD based also. email me offlist for info if you like. > O.D. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 14:32:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54572E6 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x22d.google.com (mail-oa0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80E5D2B75 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id o17so365039oag.18 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:32:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=Nd+2Gsa0FrJ7agRpy3jqlyMxaUa2d1uNQQ1T63AgakY=; b=XPnwsopNlgpnkWK8ryrReudSwvERCtWSXELug5zY/UiZqRliVUJenmqQaHOhchJZK/ dHXU5ieW4z3ynUhztrvv1ch9oPlS+Ishomm3BNXTDlc2z07VBSzdjBCYST5CHvJdrv8b 7QLGaXRZO/tqPjif99D27XncDQapz2gzLTFP3JCrMQtI88E8lqOTOve+oJA9ClQol5WS pMO3JIzQQ+zGHgA/NQFuxhZDjcsNS4CSWd0sdtjCUdORDAccwAyNQdJ6F922MiG5jpaf fg+hjeB6rTXhPT27jLskXBTxTHZiLwtGbWjbaOjtf0yHIISHRG27pH5hV4T/HAwaxLzm sY8w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.45.102 with SMTP id l6mr2102530oem.36.1381329132950; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.95.201 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:32:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201310090332.r993We9X098245@chilled.skew.org> References: <201310090332.r993We9X098245@chilled.skew.org> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 10:32:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 From: alexus Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:32:14 -0000 Mike Brown: $ grep ^BRANCH /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh BRANCH="RELEASE-p12" $ then again, I used freebsd-update and not /usr/src, but it makes sense what you said with kernel, so I guess I _AM_ on the latest -p12 and kernel is on -p9 as there was no changes after that to kernel. thank you. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Mike Brown wrote: > alexus wrote: > > ok, I just did fetch & install and got bumped from p5 to p9 > > > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD XX.XXXXX.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun > 11 > > 19:47:58 UTC 2012 > > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > amd64 > > # > > > > can I take it all the way to -p12? > > -p10 through -p12 probably didn't involve any kernel changes. Bumping the > reported patchlevel isn't considered important enough to warrant building a > new kernel. > > If your sources are in /usr/src, do this: > > grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 17:05:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1026D35 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 17:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 362AA25D0 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 17:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r99H4tDN062705; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 19:04:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <52558CB7.7080709@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 19:04:55 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Stankevitz Subject: Re: NAT: Handbook vs mailing list References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 17:05:04 -0000 On 2013-10-08 06:21, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-natd.html > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-April/229017.html > > Hello, > > Handbook section 31.9.3 suggests I should, among other things, add the > line ipdivert_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf when setting up NAT. > > The mailing list message linked above suggests that the handbook > information is the "old way" and that the correct way is to set > ipfw_enable and natd_enable in rc.conf. "Then /etc/rc.d/ipfw will > load ipfw.ko, and if natd_enable is set, will invoke /etc/rc.d/natd, > which loads ipdivert.ko at the right time." > > My inclination is to follow the handbook, but I thought I should first > check to ensure the handbook is up-to-date. > > Thank you, > This is my rc.conf with ipf (ipfilter) firewall. # Bring up the ipfilter software ipfilter_enable="YES" ipmon_enable="YES" # Start IP monitor log ipmon_flags="-D -f /var/log/ipf.log" ## Tell ipfilter where to get its rules ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules" #Enable ipnat ipnat_enable="YES" #Tell ipnat where to get its rules ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 20:31:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61B133B; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 20:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7548823B9; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 20:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.139.168] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VU0Pl-0006aA-Db; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 22:31:25 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r99KVMWc001235; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:31:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r99KVLcN001234; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:31:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:31:21 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Mark Felder , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system Message-ID: <20131009203120.GA1185@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20131008111618.GA9957@sh4-5.1blu.de> <1381237086.8491.31423161.63C77F6D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20131008130753.GA26177@sh4-5.1blu.de> <1381237951.15680.31430109.1ED62FEE@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20131008133116.GA1987@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20131008133116.GA1987@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r235646 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.139.168 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 20:31:35 -0000 El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 03:31:16PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > Meanwhile I did: > > # cp -Rp ~guru/PKGDIR /mnt > > # PKG_PATH=/PKGDIR > # export PKG_PATH > # chroot /mnt pkg_add xorg-7.7 > # chroot /mnt pkg_add kde-4.10.5 > # chroot /mnt pkg_add vim-7.3.1314 > ... > > # chroot /mnt pkg_info | wc -l > 654 > > which went fine without any errors (only the normal messages about > creation of users, etc.); I will test the resulting image and report > back. I have transferred the image with dd(1) to a 16 "marketing-GByte" USB key; it boots fine in my little EeePC 900, takes around 90 secs until login: and KDE4 starts fine too, takes around 240 secs from "startx" to be able to start an xterm application in KDE4 desktop; i.e. it works, even from such a slow USB key which has a read performance of 1 to 17 MByte per sec, depending of the blocksize 512 or 8m; All this is only a proof of concept to prepare such USB key to boot from and reinstall from it the system on my EeePC netbook whic runs at themoment r235646 with KDE3 (which is now dropped from our ports tree). It seems that KDE4 launches a lot of application or services which I will not need, for example all these akonadi_maildir processes (see attached "ps -ax" output; for what they are good for? Ok, this question goes more to the kde@ mailing list. Thx matthias PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 0 - DLs 0:00.05 [kernel] 1 - ILs 0:00.02 /sbin/init -- 2 - DL 0:00.00 [sctp_iterator] 3 - DL 0:00.00 [xpt_thrd] 4 - DL 0:00.11 [pagedaemon] 5 - DL 0:00.00 [vmdaemon] 6 - DL 0:00.00 [pagezero] 7 - DL 0:00.00 [bufdaemon] 8 - DL 0:00.09 [syncer] 9 - DL 0:00.00 [vnlru] 10 - DL 0:00.00 [audit] 11 - RL 2:53.86 [idle] 12 - WL 0:02.35 [intr] 13 - DL 0:00.84 [geom] 14 - DL 0:00.05 [rand_harvestq] 15 - DL 0:00.90 [usb] 16 - DL 0:00.03 [acpi_thermal] 17 - DL 0:00.00 [softdepflush] 1391 - Ss 0:00.03 /sbin/devd 1536 - Ss 0:00.04 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s 1560 - DL 0:00.04 [md0] 1641 - Is 0:00.60 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto 1686 - Is 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd 1689 - Ss 0:00.02 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) 1692 - Is 0:00.00 sendmail: Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmque 1696 - Ss 0:00.05 /usr/sbin/cron -s 1796 - Is 0:19.46 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-a 1802 - Is 0:00.91 kdeinit4: kdeinit4 Running... (kdeinit4) 1803 - I 0:00.60 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: klauncher --fd=8 (kdeinit4) 1805 - I 0:05.90 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: kded4 (kdeinit4) 1807 - I 0:00.07 /usr/local/libexec/gam_server 1811 - I 0:02.99 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: kglobalaccel (kdeinit4) 1817 - I 0:06.23 /usr/local/kde4/bin/knotify4 1819 - I 0:02.45 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: ksmserver (kdeinit4) 1820 - I 0:11.72 kwin -session 10d6114d4e6000138134719200000018120000_1381 1824 - I 0:14.72 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: plasma-desktop (kdeinit4) 1827 - I 0:20.26 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_control 1828 - I 0:02.79 akonadiserver 1830 - I 0:03.56 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --defaults-file=/home/guru/.loc 1838 - I 0:02.07 /usr/local/kde4/bin/kuiserver 1840 - I 0:00.08 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: nepomukserver (kdeinit4) 1843 - I 0:04.73 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: krunner (kdeinit4) 1845 - I 0:02.35 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: kmix -session 10d6114d4e6000138134736 1846 - IN 0:00.93 /usr/local/kde4/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstorage 1849 - I 0:00.60 /usr/local/kde4/bin/nepomukcontroller -session 10d6114d4e 1852 - I 0:01.04 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1853 - I 0:01.07 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1854 - I 0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1855 - I 0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1856 - I 0:03.81 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_archivemail_agent --identifie 1857 - I 0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_ical_r 1858 - I 0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1859 - I 0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1860 - I 0:01.12 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1861 - I 0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1862 - I 0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1863 - I 0:01.10 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1864 - I 0:01.06 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1865 - I 0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1866 - I 0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1867 - I 0:01.03 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1868 - I 0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1869 - I 0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1870 - I 0:01.10 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1871 - I 0:01.11 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1872 - I 0:01.12 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1873 - I 0:01.05 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1874 - I 0:01.11 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1875 - I 0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1876 - I 0:01.08 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1877 - I 0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1878 - I 0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1879 - I 0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1880 - I 0:01.11 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1881 - I 0:02.98 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent --identi 1883 - I 0:03.94 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_mailfilter_agent --identifier 1884 - I 0:03.04 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_feeder --identifier a 1902 - I 0:01.04 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1916 - I 0:02.21 /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authenticatio 1917 - S 0:01.65 /usr/local/kde4/bin/korgac --icon korgac 1923 - I 0:00.57 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: klipper (kdeinit4) 1944 - I 0:01.24 /usr/local/kde4/bin/kwikdisk -caption KwikDisk 1946 - I 0:00.95 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1948 - S 0:00.26 /usr/local/bin/xterm 1952 - I 0:00.03 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: kio_trash trash local:/tmp/ksocket-gu 1738 v0 Is 0:00.08 login [pam] (login) 1746 v0 I 0:00.02 -sh (sh) 1748 v0 I+ 0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startx 1761 v0 I+ 0:00.01 xinit /home/guru/.xinitrc -- /home/guru/.xserverrc :0 -au 1762 v0 S 0:19.67 X -nolisten tcp -retro (Xorg) 1764 v0 I 0:00.04 /bin/sh /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde 1795 v0 I 0:00.00 dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session --autolaunch 1818 v0 I 0:00.00 kwrapper4 ksmserver 1739 v1 Is+ 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1 1740 v2 Is+ 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2 1741 v3 Is+ 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3 1742 v4 Is+ 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4 1743 v5 Is+ 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5 1744 v6 Is+ 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6 1745 v7 Is+ 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7 1955 1 Ss 0:00.03 sh 1962 1 R+ 0:00.01 ps ax -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz, , http://www.unixarea.de/ f: +49-170-4527211 UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 02:03:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C12775 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59E5B255E for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VU5ay-0005Sv-Gq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:03:20 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:03:20 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:03:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Upgrade 9.1 -> 9.2 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 15 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:03:23 -0000 I used 'freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.2-RELEASE' to upgrade a test system. All went well, until the point at which it said: Kernel updates have been installed. Please reboot and run "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install" again to finish installing updates. Stupidly, I did NOT reboot, but started the "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install" without rebooting first. As soon as I realised my mistake (a few minutes later), I issued ctrl-c to exit, rebooted and ran "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install" again. It appeared to finish successfuly. Have I screwed up my system, or am I OK? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 03:14:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A159DBAD for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65729292D for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r9A3ENZL012238 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 21:14:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <52561B8E.100@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:14:22 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: mounting a .iso image? ... missing man page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:14:23 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:14:26 -0000 For some strange reason, my 9.1 system seems to be missing the section 1 man page for tar, although everything else seems to be there. I have an iso9660 image of 9.1 release which I tried to mount to copy the missing file, but that didn't work (can't find the CD I burned...). #mount -t cd9660 -o ro FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso /mnt/tmp mount_cd9660: /hd1/Downloads/FreeBSD/9_1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso: Block device required Seems like it must be possible to mount a cd9660 image somehow without burning an actual disc? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 03:24:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F97DE2 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD7BC29BB for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.local [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9A3O7cA030376 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:24:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 22:24:07 -0500 From: dweimer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting a .iso =?UTF-8?Q?image=3F=20=2E=2E=2E=20missing=20ma?= =?UTF-8?Q?n=20page?= Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <52561B8E.100@dreamchaser.org> References: <52561B8E.100@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: <2374eee44414cbf036ffa994bc7447fb@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:24:27 -0000 On 10/09/2013 10:14 pm, Gary Aitken wrote: > For some strange reason, my 9.1 system seems to be missing the section > 1 > man page for tar, although everything else seems to be there. > > I have an iso9660 image of 9.1 release which I tried to mount to copy > the missing file, but that didn't work (can't find the CD I burned...). > > #mount -t cd9660 -o ro FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso /mnt/tmp > mount_cd9660: > /hd1/Downloads/FreeBSD/9_1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso: Block > device required > > Seems like it must be possible to mount a cd9660 image somehow without > burning an actual disc? > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /path/to/file.iso this will create a /dev/md# where # starts at 0 for first one mount it with mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/md# /mnt -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 03:25:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6AFE92 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1C1629CB for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:25:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-65.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F18D0276F7; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:25:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r9A3PR2v008128; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:25:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:25:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: mounting a .iso image? ... missing man page Message-Id: <20131010052527.56e80b94.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52561B8E.100@dreamchaser.org> References: <52561B8E.100@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:25:42 -0000 On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:14:22 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > Seems like it must be possible to mount a cd9660 image somehow without > burning an actual disc? Of course. :-) It is possible by using a virtual node "connected" to the ISO file. Without having tested, according to your example: # mdconfig -u 0 -t vnode -f /hd1/Downloads/FreeBSD/9_1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso # mount -o ro -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt/tmp ... do stuff ... # umount /mnt/tmp # mdconfig -u 0 -d An alternative would be to use tar to extract the files from the image, change whatever you want, and use mkisofs afterwards to rebuild the (new) image, in case you want to modify its content. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 04:18:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D3EAA1 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:18:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60E4F2BDC for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r9A4IfjU012426; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:18:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <52562AA1.4020202@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 22:18:41 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: mounting a .iso image? ... missing man page References: <52561B8E.100@dreamchaser.org> <20131010052527.56e80b94.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131010052527.56e80b94.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 22:18:41 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:18:49 -0000 On 10/09/13 21:25, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:14:22 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Seems like it must be possible to mount a cd9660 image somehow without >> burning an actual disc? > > Of course. :-) I guess knowing it's possible is a start; couldn't figure out where to look to get the magic combination. > It is possible by using a virtual node "connected" to the > ISO file. Without having tested, according to your example: > > # mdconfig -u 0 -t vnode -f /hd1/Downloads/FreeBSD/9_1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso for the record, that's: mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 0 -f > # mount -o ro -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt/tmp > ... do stuff ... > # umount /mnt/tmp > # mdconfig -u 0 -d and that one is mdconfig -d -u 0 order appears to be important Thanks again, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 04:37:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47498C45 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@skew.org) Received: from chilled.skew.org (chilled.skew.org [70.90.116.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F77A2C92 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chilled.skew.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chilled.skew.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9A4bPP5086454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:37:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mike@chilled.skew.org) Received: (from mike@localhost) by chilled.skew.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r9A4bPhW086453; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:37:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mike) From: Mike Brown Message-Id: <201310100437.r9A4bPhW086453@chilled.skew.org> Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 In-Reply-To: <20131009153605.3c6524c8a1ce44965a54ae6a@yahoo.es> To: Eduardo Morras Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:37:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Whoa: whoa. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL126 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:37:34 -0000 Eduardo Morras wrote: > [...] uname -a should give the correct answer. Has uname other utility than > show information about the operating system implementation? No, and it must > be accurate. That's what I thought, but when I asked about it here last year, I was told that this is the way things are; our expectations of uname are at fault. I believe if he were to compile his own kernel, it would say -p12. Suggestions were made for how to deal with it, but I don't know if they were ever followed up on. They wouldn't affect 7.x in any case. Start reading the thread here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/240666.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 04:42:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBC3E15 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61FD72D5C for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-65.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDC6B3CAA8; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 06:42:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r9A4g2Yo008500; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 06:42:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 06:42:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: mounting a .iso image? ... missing man page Message-Id: <20131010064202.9dd1dd3e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52562AA1.4020202@dreamchaser.org> References: <52561B8E.100@dreamchaser.org> <20131010052527.56e80b94.freebsd@edvax.de> <52562AA1.4020202@dreamchaser.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:42:17 -0000 On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 22:18:41 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > for the record, that's: > mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 0 -f Correct, I noticed too late that -a was missing. But "man mdconfig" mentions all parts that are needed. :-) > > # mount -o ro -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt/tmp > > ... do stuff ... > > # umount /mnt/tmp > > # mdconfig -u 0 -d > > and that one is > mdconfig -d -u 0 > > order appears to be important The manpage doesn't seem to explicitely mention this, but if I remember correctly, it actually matters, as you said. By the way, the manpage mentions mount -t cd9660 /dev/`mdconfig -f cdimage.iso` /mnt as an interesting construction in the EXAMPLES section. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 05:10:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5FB2D8 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@sdf.org) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329BD2E93 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:10:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LcC+G0ji c=1 sm=0 a=s99JP9nkuyUZgdwK7wvnJA==:17 a=LEup1id8KFYA:10 a=7RHBbx4iXqoA:10 a=SbJKBax-Ke0A:10 a=6lBslN5KadwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=oX08kPI8AAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=vc-PEY8zcZ0A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=EZ4PmZyQCx5sEUWoXL4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=4wfsiePOASQA:10 a=pcKC8Ce7hh_oThT0:21 a=lMFtb6yWLCUk7TsR:21 a=s99JP9nkuyUZgdwK7wvnJA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 72.132.160.201 Received: from [72.132.160.201] ([72.132.160.201:39046] helo=bsdfull.Belkin) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D0/B6-08519-1D636525; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:10:41 +0000 Message-ID: <525636D0.7020101@sdf.org> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 22:10:40 -0700 From: cary User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0 SeaMonkey/2.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting a .iso image? ... missing man page References: <52561B8E.100@dreamchaser.org> <20131010052527.56e80b94.freebsd@edvax.de> <52562AA1.4020202@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <52562AA1.4020202@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:10:48 -0000 Gary Aitken wrote: > On 10/09/13 21:25, Polytropon wrote: >> On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:14:22 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >>> Seems like it must be possible to mount a cd9660 image somehow without >>> burning an actual disc? >> >> Of course. :-) > > I guess knowing it's possible is a start; > couldn't figure out where to look to get the magic combination. > >> It is possible by using a virtual node "connected" to the >> ISO file. Without having tested, according to your example: >> >> # mdconfig -u 0 -t vnode -f /hd1/Downloads/FreeBSD/9_1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso > > for the record, that's: > mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 0 -f > >> # mount -o ro -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt/tmp >> ... do stuff ... >> # umount /mnt/tmp >> # mdconfig -u 0 -d > > and that one is > mdconfig -d -u 0 > > order appears to be important > > Thanks again, > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > To avoid having to recall the arguments for mdconfig(8): #/bin/sh #start_isofs #two commands to attach and mount or umount file.iso # isofs_stop() { (umount -f /mnt && mdconfig -d -u $NUM) } NUM=3 DEV="/dev/md${NUM}" IMGFS=$1 case $2 in "start") # first check whether target mount point is in use if mount | grep -q "/mnt"; then printf "Exiting: mount point '/mnt' currently unavailable.\n" exit 1 fi (mdconfig -a -t vnode -f "$IMGFS" -u $NUM && mount -o ro -t cd9660 $DEV /mnt) ;; "stop") isofs_stop ;; *) if [ "$IMGFS" = "stop" ]; then isofs_stop else your_script="$(basename $0)" printf "Usage: %s [isofile] start|stop\n" $your_script fi ;; esac exit -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org ------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 05:45:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2839C538 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from opendaddy@hushmail.com) Received: from smtp10.hushmail.com (smtp10.hushmail.com [65.39.178.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F4242FDC for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp10.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp10.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 946F2C0167 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w8.hushmail.com [65.39.178.52]) by smtp10.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 738C26015B; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:45:40 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:45:40 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help vote for FreeBSD From: opendaddy@hushmail.com In-Reply-To: <20131009141138.6558F6018E@smtp.hushmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20131010054540.738C26015B@smtp.hushmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:45:41 -0000 Keep them coming guys! Couple hundred more and FreeBSD will top the list: https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/filters/top This would be great PR for FreeBSD too. Thank you! On 9. oktober 2013 at 2:11 PM, opendaddy@hushmail.com wrote: > >Hi, > >Could you guys help vote for FreeBSD over at Digital Ocean? > >https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital- >ocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os- > >Basically it's the only SSD cloud hosting provider >(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHZLCahai4Q) in existence and if >the response is good enough, they'll start offering FreeBSD. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 06:22:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDB1A64 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 06:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4602521BC for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 06:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp118-210-126-13.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.126.13]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2013 16:51:49 +1030 Message-ID: <5256475D.5090908@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:51:17 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130516 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help vote for FreeBSD References: <20131010054540.738C26015B@smtp.hushmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20131010054540.738C26015B@smtp.hushmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 06:22:26 -0000 On 10/10/2013 16:15, opendaddy@hushmail.com wrote: > Keep them coming guys! Couple hundred more and FreeBSD will top the list: > > https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/filters/top > > This would be great PR for FreeBSD too. > It appears to be tagged as started, which should mean they are in the process of adding bsd options. Even if it isn't the most popular topic. 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[137.222.187.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b13sm25823572wic.9.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Oct 2013 07:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Anton Shterenlikht Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r9AE7UBK069317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:07:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6/Submit) id r9AE7UeX069316 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:07:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:07:30 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201310101407.r9AE7UeX069316@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Expensive timeout(9) function: 0x9ffc000000b59d80(0) 0.060724954 s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:08:06 -0000 I see on the console: lock order reversal: 1st 0xe000000012c58a28 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/fs/nullfs/null_vnops.c:620 2nd 0x9ffc000000c32360 allproc (allproc) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_descrip.c:2780 KDB: stack backtrace: db_trace_self(0x9ffc0000000c9ec0) at db_trace_self+0x40 db_trace_self_wrapper(0x9ffc0000004da9c0) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x70 kdb_backtrace(0x9ffc000000c0c218, 0x9ffc0000005108d0) at kdb_backtrace+0xc0 _witness_debugger(0x1, 0x9ffc000000b0edd8, 0x9ffc0000005142a0, 0xb9d, 0x9ffc000000afae08) at _witness_debugger+0x60 witness_checkorder(0x9ffc000000c32360, 0x9ffc000000b0e728, 0x9ffc000000afae08, 0xadc, 0x0) at witness_checkorder+0x15b0 _sx_slock(0x9ffc000000c32360, 0x0, 0x9ffc000000afae08, 0xadc) at _sx_slock+0x120 mountcheckdirs(0xe000000015ee04e0, 0xe000000015ee0750, 0xa0000000905bd280, 0xe000000015ee04e0, 0x9ffc0000005afd70, 0x592, 0x592) at mountcheckdirs+0x60 dounmount(0xe000000015ee0750, 0x8080000, 0xe00000001276c480, 0x0, 0x0, 0xa0000000905bd2a0, 0x1000, 0x80000) at dounmount+0x920 sys_unmount(0xe00000001276c480, 0x0, 0xe000000015ede3c8, 0xe000000012ec5800) at sys_unmount+0x6d0 syscall(0xe000000015fe0de0, 0x8080000, 0x1000055a8, 0xe00000001276c480, 0x0, 0x0, 0x9ffc00000098db00, 0x8) at syscall+0x5e0 epc_syscall_return() at epc_syscall_return Expensive timeout(9) function: 0x9ffc000000b4e600(0xa0000000009ed320) 0.051850651 s Expensive timeout(9) function: 0x9ffc000000b59d80(0) 0.060724954 s I'm not interested in LOR, but in the last 2 lines. What is this "expensive" about? Should I worry? Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 17:07:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5DCF6D for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FFBB2BF2 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD1C215E2 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:07:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :references; s=smtpout; bh=x/f4+lsTeOhn7vlmwDIWjyUi0K8=; b=P27vs wr+yQLQcibxVR6zwtSFFjKjq9Ep3Zrm+JRO/q2nlrm7UgETM2FuPSqB3oII1QuBh +Jq5jhthhewru8hLErtj7KzIj6DerYlHG+H5zDMgCI3iNi+wAIxmKAlAIHEtjC7t w7hTNFnFJrzKyP9NIgU+C9/g2/e9e27g1tFsO4= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 2A552117449; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1381424840.11040.32473177.511919E0@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: OPIKaXIQ0B1YHpXfoiBKQGtBTWAfzp6LZJCld9Yw7KNv 1381424840 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:07:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20131009153605.3c6524c8a1ce44965a54ae6a@yahoo.es> References: <201310090332.r993We9X098245@chilled.skew.org> <20131009153605.3c6524c8a1ce44965a54ae6a@yahoo.es> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:07:21 -0000 On Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 8:36, Eduardo Morras wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:32:39 -0600 (MDT) > Mike Brown wrote: > > > alexus wrote: > > > ok, I just did fetch & install and got bumped from p5 to p9 > > > > > > # uname -a > > > FreeBSD XX.XXXXX.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 > > > 19:47:58 UTC 2012 > > > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > > amd64 > > > # > > > > > > can I take it all the way to -p12? > > > > -p10 through -p12 probably didn't involve any kernel changes. Bumping the > > reported patchlevel isn't considered important enough to warrant building a > > new kernel. > > That there's no kernel changes doesn't mean that uname -a info is not > updated. You are incorrect. The output of uname -a is taken from the kernel and cannot be updated without installing a new kernel. The good news is that FreeBSD 10 will ship with a new utility called freebsd-version which will provide a better way of identifying if your system is up to date. >From the commit message: Introduce the /libexec/freebsd-version script, which is intended to be used by auditing tools to determine the userland patch level when it differs from what `uname -r` reports. This can happen when the system is kept up-to-date using freebsd-update and the last SA did not touch the kernel, or when a new kernel has been installed but the system has not yet rebooted. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/bin/freebsd-version/ By the way, it will be /bin/freebsd-version as it has been relocated since the import into head. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 17:56:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D151CAC for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurfalien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pd0-x231.google.com (mail-pd0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 465A82F69 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f177.google.com with SMTP id y10so2999144pdj.22 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:56:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version; bh=+zz13j7h7Fij/szLrrJwTs/V3XlgHYVM8cuqhAfFp7c=; b=bxDjgnXXu/zME7e1zAPVYEb9BDfXBRwF1a5lwBk5pOGs00gbma2U8qD3ABrpwPEr35 2K15GkLovlz42GPCRnPMieGmcEZPvvEWTk9qT6fUPWIu2xwN28/3GmBwwJT+T39lY5Ue 9IUhBzh+XdJigUvpLw0E3QSh8icLUre07kLyYOvrVpHjpBLR7Eev26khSRIdS7QKrKt7 BrOJWvuwfQbszZSViRN9meW6+P0X5ufqGDIwldQjmwyr2xOy6GTNNIUEJjpY4fnzM/I3 mbFlbFEAxgtMi8nslOhkaJHQ9hBaSAcU8P8fiuGdv57r319Fso39bNTUfJtcsgCB8rs6 6s2w== X-Received: by 10.66.122.40 with SMTP id lp8mr16829040pab.82.1381427776883; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from briankrusicw.logan.tv ([64.17.255.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id py4sm54531803pbb.33.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:56:16 -0700 (PDT) From: aurfalien Subject: 4K vs 512byte sector drives on Seagate Constellation E.2 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:56:10 -0700 Message-Id: To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:56:17 -0000 Hi, I've a Seagate constellation ES.2 which supports 4K sectors but diskinfo = shows it as 512bytes; da0 512 3000592982016 5860533168 0 0 364801 = 255 63 I understand that Seagate ships these drives to be compatible with = 512byte sectors so that older Windows OSs work on the. But I'm unsure how to get this drive to report as having 4K sectors. I'm really asking from a ZFS perspective as my vdevs show with an ashift = of 9 via the zdb command. I'd rather forgo the gnop hack as I prefer a cleaner approach. Any info or insight would be greatly appreciated. - aurf =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 18:08:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89677AF for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 18:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:84c1::deaf:babe]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 162052082 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 18:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.130.11.119] (cm-84.210.76.250.getinternet.no [84.210.76.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 098242E06E; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:08:42 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_052FB60A-7917-462B-A4D0-F3274E3EB14F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: Geli and ZFS From: Terje Elde In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:08:31 +0200 Message-Id: <77878DF1-8266-406D-BD76-02295AE09CF0@elde.net> References: To: yudi v X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 18:08:48 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_052FB60A-7917-462B-A4D0-F3274E3EB14F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:43 AM, yudi v wrote: > Generally, it's recommended to let ZFS manage the whole disk if = possible, > so I was wondering if the second option is better. > I will be using couple of 3TB HDDs mirrored for data and want to = encrypt > them. IIRC, there is/was a major performance-difference on Solaris between = using ZFS on a partition, or a whole disk. FreeBSD is happy with = either. The two alternatives you mentioned were: ZFS over GELI over disk and ZFS over GELI over ZFS over disk While ZFS wouldn't get the raw disk in setup #1, the left-most ZFS = wouldn't get it in the second scenario either. > I am hoping someone with an in-depth understanding of ZFS will be able = to > offer some insight. What I usually do and recommend is using GPT with labels for the = partitions you'll put GELI/ZFS on. There's a couple of different reasons for this: * It'll let you create your zpool on /dev/gpt/label, which will make it = easy to find even when the device moves (harddisk-renumbering, changes = from internal ATA to USB enclosure=85 ) * You don't run things through ZFS twice. * The disk is fully encrypted. * etc Terje --Apple-Mail=_052FB60A-7917-462B-A4D0-F3274E3EB14F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEkBAEBCgAGBQJSVu0lAAoJEKIog3c0EBYzZh8IPjeiHx14sJsoTDWtZtmz+W3t 5YFsutQlYgL/iXN0Wao6BJ/07UvwJn3LhVOGbGHkmDXJ5Z/4NjRjyXT7VBZlgaER XgHfT0kooCy66MAVhjpWavuYTe1/s4BkofR1TI0U9fHuptj8QGFJ7oTNEPh38/o3 0E53XBWqI9VdXN3t8nzS8ul7gwFijkjlei/Vryq6AvUGKMYiBwPpDg8ke+AiG+T5 G72uEeQBJ2UkZlzISALOoHHZaaZ7wgJ3sFfYt3AfcQL0LeAgs7rWk1NztOjERcd1 bQXF24HweFoGCJGrXeDATZumn2dVYuSleHEdTfRCIMk9SewRICdL02U5UJJNrsQT Yh6MLpGLBw== =QYmE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_052FB60A-7917-462B-A4D0-F3274E3EB14F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 19:00:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29BD59B for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurfalien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-x22b.google.com (mail-pb0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C380246A for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f43.google.com with SMTP id md4so2986909pbc.2 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:00:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=tL3uTdckj2TxrlWmT5MWb8XJMSSsPXQINRB9XBwdads=; b=PhORFPhsyD/EIFy6fD1ORBivZNzyS0XKoUAOCFlY/MoCCfhpBeESz3Lu3SFRoVCBNR B/UOTqimnkwhHiGLYXu2d9QhJOqbp4ZEHDZybUMp6HXS+RcR9rHUX0SaigdSVIIL/Z7s Fsddor/ieDA22eWnahYAWYQiLwNtqVjM9CB2Vs82THQlORQWEWO9iBXC72Cb7f8so2/q Mrs7cjy7F/SaoPIZftccKQruaZ2Mpd7+A7kavDlCuG6WMCCLUOn+DA7L0+niWWcxZjci 4Dwx946RiCvk3iB5mJf7kwJFRP0hwKg3c0aTzJtKP9f60OaAzKHMd22FMX8+iUf9YiF7 LtHw== X-Received: by 10.68.139.168 with SMTP id qz8mr15763229pbb.1.1381431604235; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from briankrusicw.logan.tv ([64.17.255.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id tx5sm54783373pbc.29.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: copying milllions of small files and millions of dirs Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: <20130816064612.GH1190@petole.demisel.net> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:00:01 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <852D7000-F9D2-4C63-8D68-A56F77EB9B8C@gmail.com> References: <7E7AEB5A-7102-424E-8B1E-A33E0A2C8B2C@gmail.com> <20130816064612.GH1190@petole.demisel.net> To: Nicolas KOWALSKI X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:00:04 -0000 On Aug 15, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:13:25AM -0700, aurfalien wrote: >> Is there a faster way to copy files over NFS? > > I would use find+cpio. This handles hard links, permissions, and in case > of later runs, will not copy files if they already exist on the > destination. > > # cd /source/dir > # find . | cpio -pvdm /destination/dir Old thread I know but cpio has proven twice as fast as rsync. Trusty ol cpio. 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If you too are looking for 100% commission results every week checkout www.residual-pay.net Hassan Shareef www.facebook.com/hassan.shareef.52 "The Only Limits On Human Achievement Are Self-Imposed" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 02:37:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC9958E for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6B272EB9 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9B2bsCc055984; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:37:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r9B2bsmv055981; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:37:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:37:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: aurfalien Subject: Re: 4K vs 512byte sector drives on Seagate Constellation E.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:37:54 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:37:56 -0000 On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, aurfalien wrote: > Hi, > > I've a Seagate constellation ES.2 which supports 4K sectors but diskinfo shows it as 512bytes; > > da0 512 3000592982016 5860533168 0 0 364801 255 63 > > I understand that Seagate ships these drives to be compatible with 512byte sectors so that older Windows OSs work on the. > > But I'm unsure how to get this drive to report as having 4K sectors. It does not need to report that, as long as the partitions are aligned to 4K blocks. Seagate has some auto-alignment tech that seems reasonably effective. I'd still make sure the partitions are aligned. > I'm really asking from a ZFS perspective as my vdevs show with an ashift of 9 via the zdb command. > > I'd rather forgo the gnop hack as I prefer a cleaner approach. Using gnop is the way to force ZFS to use 4K blocks at present. And this does not guarantee alignment with 4K disk blocks, which must be accomplished with partition alignment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 02:38:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323E8626 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x232.google.com (mail-ie0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07A852EC9 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id to1so7175987ieb.9 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:38:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xtWkY84dRk7UqvNVD72kW0Axk8fU63M9ZzlsqAK++EU=; b=Jg/cv2zkXp7PDZy7/O8Thod1tmFx1MECHQJM5oJ7qIbeul6n3jJk3M99sG+o3dh1Kx 9Md4oRZsVYGmcx63nHvQWRxHJepIJ1fq+YmfZHmWQ+6W4hpkgflEhdfIbAXPigGOQoSO JcrhExtbHG7DWk5FmdHGI0xXvEJ+AOmQY/G90RQBE6kIKyaWClYUI0lSWjlGZEwoajz4 SGD0K9QVdSnfx8VCKhLc+1AvMV8g4Cfy50nn0vMymkrbOgR0H/YBdzU6XEEhuOOq2lfd n8A09lZoi5jRucX1Ei7+IJFbJuRSpXF/1SfEY6ab6mN4U9BljlOADjiTOPfwZHMNlBMf gmSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.234.162 with SMTP id uf2mr980204igc.48.1381459125310; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.139.6 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:38:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: NATD: net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1" vs firewall_type="OPEN" From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:38:46 -0000 Hello, Handbook section 31.9 describes the setup of NAT. Section 31.9.3 suggests net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1" "during the first attempts to setup a firewall and NAT gateway". Section 31.9.5 suggests I "specify a predefined firewall ruleset that allows anything in" with firewall_type="OPEN" Question: What is the difference between these two configurations (or where can I go to learn the difference between the two)? Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 02:39:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CBC6BA for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23B362ED0 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:39:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9B2cxEF056025; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:39:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r9B2cxCl056022; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:38:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:38:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: aurfalien Subject: Re: copying milllions of small files and millions of dirs In-Reply-To: <852D7000-F9D2-4C63-8D68-A56F77EB9B8C@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <7E7AEB5A-7102-424E-8B1E-A33E0A2C8B2C@gmail.com> <20130816064612.GH1190@petole.demisel.net> <852D7000-F9D2-4C63-8D68-A56F77EB9B8C@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:39:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nicolas KOWALSKI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:39:01 -0000 On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, aurfalien wrote: > > On Aug 15, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:13:25AM -0700, aurfalien wrote: >>> Is there a faster way to copy files over NFS? >> >> I would use find+cpio. This handles hard links, permissions, and in case >> of later runs, will not copy files if they already exist on the >> destination. >> >> # cd /source/dir >> # find . | cpio -pvdm /destination/dir > > > Old thread I know but cpio has proven twice as fast as rsync. > > Trusty ol cpio. > > Gonna try cpdup next. Try sysutils/clone, too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 02:46:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06018B2 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wd@us-webmasters.com) Received: from super.grabweb.com (super.grabweb.com [64.237.47.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 683EF2F40 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15236 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2013 22:45:59 -0400 Received: from batv-01-092.dsl.netins.net (HELO Erika.US-Webmasters.com) (207.199.193.92) by 64-237-47-169.constant.com with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 10 Oct 2013 22:45:59 -0400 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:45:58 -0500 To: Polytropon From: "W. D." Subject: Re: Why no "ls" on DVD or livefs.iso? In-Reply-To: <20131006085830.cbfa52bf.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20131006063608.23914935@hub.freebsd.org> <20131006085830.cbfa52bf.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20131011024608.B06018B2@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:46:08 -0000 At 01:58 10/6/2013, Polytropon wrote: >On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 01:29:19 -0500, W. D. wrote: >> Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. >>=20 >> Very limited commands: "ls: not found". > >Try /rescue/ls explicitely instead. > > > >> Why? What good are these disks if they don't have >> the most basic of commands? > >Only live systems offer more than the "holographic shell" >when booted properly. FreeSBIE has been a very good live >system in the past, but the current installers also allow >you to drop into a working shell environment at a very >early stage (from within bsdinstall). > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall/b >sdinstall-choose-mode.png > >This dialog should bring you into a working shell. I've >been using it myself for disk initialization with a >FreeBSD 9.1 CD. Thanks, Polytropon. I couldn't get FrieSBIE to work. Hung up. Used mfsBSD instead. =20 Had to use 8.X because 9.X hangs. I think it has something to do with my PS2 mouse and keyboard. > > > >> Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number >> of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. > >A good approach. If possible, try to obtain a 1:1 copy >of the disk (or partition) and work with that. Check >the mailing list archives for further inspiration. > > > > >--=20 >Polytropon >Magdeburg, Germany >Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to= "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $9.99 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 02:52:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F09A96 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wd@us-webmasters.com) Received: from super.grabweb.com (super.grabweb.com [64.237.47.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DB402F9A for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27342 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2013 22:52:06 -0400 Received: from batv-01-092.dsl.netins.net (HELO Erika.US-Webmasters.com) (207.199.193.92) by 64-237-47-169.constant.com with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 10 Oct 2013 22:52:05 -0400 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:52:05 -0500 To: Warren Block From: "W. D." Subject: Re: Why no "ls" on DVD or livefs.iso? In-Reply-To: References: <20131006063608.23914935@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20131011025209.80F09A96@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, phk@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:52:09 -0000 At 08:47 10/6/2013, Warren Block wrote: >On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: > >> Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. >> >> Very limited commands: "ls: not found". >> >> Why? What good are these disks if they don't have >> the most basic of commands? > >The "emergency holographic shell" was always very limited. I suspect a=20 >path thing, with it looking for commands on the installed system. Old=20 >bare-bones tricks like "echo *" help. > >> Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number >> of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. >> >> Want to use "recoverdisk", but can't get the >> command line to work. > >Use mfsBSD: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ Thanks, Warren. MFSBSD worked for me. Had to use 8.X because 9.X hangs. I think it has something to do with my PS2 mouse and keyboard. 9.X still only seems to work with USB peripherals--or is something else going on? I was a bit skittish using "recoverdisk" because I couldn't find any explicit notation about source and target. # clone a hard disk recoverdisk /dev/ad3 /dev/ad4 As it turns out, the first argument is the source and the second is the target, as one might intuitively guess. However, I've been burned before by guesses, so I hope someone will update the man pages to make this obvious. Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $9.99 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 03:18:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C09A342; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:18:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 056F6218A; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9B3IFl7056249; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:18:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r9B3IFLC056246; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:18:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:18:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "W. D." Subject: Re: Why no "ls" on DVD or livefs.iso? In-Reply-To: <201310110258.r9B2wskF056153@wonkity.com> Message-ID: References: <20131006063608.23914935@hub.freebsd.org> <201310110258.r9B2wskF056153@wonkity.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:18:15 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, phk@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:18:17 -0000 On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: > At 08:47 10/6/2013, Warren Block wrote: >> On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: >> >>> Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. >>> >>> Very limited commands: "ls: not found". >>> >>> Why? What good are these disks if they don't have >>> the most basic of commands? >> >> The "emergency holographic shell" was always very limited. I suspect a >> path thing, with it looking for commands on the installed system. Old >> bare-bones tricks like "echo *" help. >> >>> Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number >>> of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. >>> >>> Want to use "recoverdisk", but can't get the >>> command line to work. >> >> Use mfsBSD: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ > > Thanks, Warren. MFSBSD worked for me. > > Had to use 8.X because 9.X hangs. I think it has something > to do with my PS2 mouse and keyboard. 9.X still only seems > to work with USB peripherals--or is something else going on? > > I was a bit skittish using "recoverdisk" because I couldn't > find any explicit notation about source and target. > > # clone a hard disk > recoverdisk /dev/ad3 /dev/ad4 > > As it turns out, the first argument is the source and the > second is the target, as one might intuitively guess. However, > I've been burned before by guesses, so I hope someone will > update the man pages to make this obvious. It says recoverdisk [-b bigsize] [-r readlist] [-s interval] [-w writelist] source [destination] That seems pretty clear, although the text does not really explain what happens if the optional destination is not given. Output to stdout would be the standard expectation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 03:30:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874175D4; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E43A2209; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:30:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.97.5 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 35081744; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:30:11 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9B3UBOY076372; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:30:11 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r9B3UBoE076371; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:30:11 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:30:11 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpt problem on a Supermicro motherboard (FreeBSD 9.2 amd64) Message-ID: <20131011033011.GB76053@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20131008091521.GB4094@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131008091521.GB4094@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Justin Gibbs , Scott Long X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:30:15 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: > > I have several Supermicro-based servers with the mpt RAID adapter: > > # mptutil show adapter > mpt0 Adapter: > Board Name: UNUSED > Board Assembly: > Chip Name: C1068E > Chip Revision: UNUSED > RAID Levels: none > # > > The problem is, I cannot configure any RAIDs (please see output > below) from FreeBSD. If I configure volumes from BIOS setup, FreeBSD > still sees them as separate physical discs. What am I doing wrong? > > I cannot use gmirror with these servers because a) if no MPT RAID is > configured in BIOS setup, it cannot boot from HDD and b) if an MPT > RAID *is* configured in BIOS setup, it occupies the last sector and > prevents GEOM from working with these drives. > > Any help please? (or redirect me to a more appropriate maillist). After many unsuccessful trials and googling, we had to reconfigure the adapter from RAID mode to IT mode. It required flashing the adapter's BIOS from a Supermicro-supplied image and changing a jumper setting on the motherboard. Now as the adapter is in IT mode, it is a plain HBA the BIOS can boot from, and I have set up a gmirror on the SAS disks. After flashing the adapter BIOS, don't forget to enter its setup (Ctrl-C) and enable hotplugging of disks (called "Removable Media Support" in the menu, off by default). People come across similar problems and solutions on other OSes, like http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-973912.html -- Victor Sudakov Tomsk, Russia Russian Barefoot FAQ at http://www.barefooters.ru/barefoot.txt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 03:33:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326306BF for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E994A225D for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-65.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80C573C6F6; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:33:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r9B3X2YV021695; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:33:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:33:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "W. D." Subject: Re: Why no "ls" on DVD or livefs.iso? Message-Id: <20131011053302.2c23cc78.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <0LykUx-1VoaBY1Z1r-015dSl@mx.kundenserver.de> References: <20131006063608.23914935@hub.freebsd.org> <20131006085830.cbfa52bf.freebsd@edvax.de> <0LykUx-1VoaBY1Z1r-015dSl@mx.kundenserver.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:33:12 -0000 On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:45:58 -0500, W. D. wrote: > Thanks, Polytropon. I couldn't get FrieSBIE to work. It's a rather old project, and as far as I know, it isn't being continued anymore. It should still support at least the CLI mode for most computers... (I have to admit that I'm still using it, but usually on _older_ computers where it often works flawlessly.) > Hung up. Used mfsBSD instead. Good choice. :-) > Had to use 8.X because 9.X hangs. I think it has something > to do with my PS2 mouse and keyboard. Can't imagine _that_ as a cause of OS hangs, but it might still be a hardware compatibility or configuration problem. If v8 works for you - no problem, it's still supported. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 03:41:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607208EA for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E7DF22D7 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.96.36.171] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1VUTJa-0007O7-9O; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:22:58 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Chris Stankevitz" Subject: Re: NATD: net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1" vs firewall_type="OPEN" References: Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:22:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.6/17954/Thu Oct 10 04:58:03 2013) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:41:09 -0000 On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 04:38:45 +0200, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Hello, > > Handbook section 31.9 describes the setup of NAT. > > Section 31.9.3 suggests net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1" "during > the first attempts to setup a firewall and NAT gateway". > > Section 31.9.5 suggests I "specify a predefined firewall ruleset that > allows anything in" with firewall_type="OPEN" > > Question: What is the difference between these two configurations (or > where can I go to learn the difference between the two)? > > Thank you, > > Chris Hello, ipfw always has one default rule, standard is 65535 deny ip from any to any If you set net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1", you get 65535 allow ip from any to any instead. Specifing firewall_type="OPEN" gives you an additional rule 65000 allow ip from any to any Now, if for example you execute ``ipfw flush'', thus deleting all rules, this deletes rule 65000, but the default rule stays in effect. With ...default_to_accept="0" ( standard setting ) you now have disabled all network connections and locked yourself out if you're working remote. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 09:56:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9082FA1 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 384FA2582 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id eo20so3166980lab.17 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:56:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8sskp/anIJrThZkD/gG87KMMfEMZulekgUVRm4vfAcw=; b=RGrHimYi+g2nLK88CbnIQlu1IKcreXqDCQ3zv4MTkdSIilqog7Sx5yyi+nr2qgCH/n beaNukVh391l5fP3XMLxFj62KjnphCslRI7BArKaVEnFsn2I7/M9QTlzPo3Xjb50AlmM ELJaWFCy9V8r/f+nDSa5+WQiyrjVr8EqmBAbIegLW9BrtduzXDnhL5N97EwR9ihkmkxe UeQD7KimqzQtzzbub1kJ0Zqm9/RKMNqoqb94o2p2reN4ROUp6lt7RgsvI6uUlI0JJ3De ksxPaTfRUZ2U7fWT7qKFYYclPV+zpDrBz3/SrRWk/Vu5suSEJYO746wCzuIkDTbPRF5I QZhA== X-Received: by 10.152.37.41 with SMTP id v9mr15719711laj.9.1381485405176; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:56:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.170.133 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:56:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:56:05 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE doesn't correctly detect USB mouse/keyboard To: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:56:47 -0000 I am running vanilla 9.2-RELEASE on an HP Z230. Strangely, my USB keyboard and mouse don't work. When I attach, here is what shows: Oct 11 12:36:39 waridi kernel: usb_alloc_device: device init 2 failed (USB_ERR_IOERROR, ignored) Oct 11 12:36:39 waridi kernel: ugen0.2: at usbus0 (disconnected) Oct 11 12:36:39 waridi kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device Oct 11 12:36:48 waridi kernel: usb_alloc_device: device init 2 failed (USB_ERR_IOERROR, ignored) Oct 11 12:36:48 waridi kernel: ugen0.2: at usbus0 (disconnected) Oct 11 12:36:48 waridi kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device Oct 11 12:36:55 waridi kernel: usb_alloc_device: device init 2 failed (USB_ERR_IOERROR, ignored) Oct 11 12:36:55 waridi kernel: ugen0.2: at usbus0 (disconnected) Oct 11 12:36:55 waridi kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device $ uname -a FreeBSD waridi.kihingovillage.com 9.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE #0 r255898: Thu Sep 26 22:50:31 UTC 2013 root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj /usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I am wondering if there is something obvious I am missing? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 11:27:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356C0B4F for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 11:27:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wgyb.biz) Received: from mail-ie0-f178.google.com (mail-ie0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08B9A2C94 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 11:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id to1so7908202ieb.37 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 04:27:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from :to:content-type; bh=BSojzhmIQlKu9y3TrcQ88kLzSE0R4GRBYHkjZ+j3JFE=; b=JYaoVZzmz8xYZr92uBLF77yJDJng7h7I0dF8e4NXZ6Po2G+IDRnneDbHGgBgql4F6U QZJc0M+n2LoBADvf+DbUpSTcvx/p7M5lWPMKvHObvS2jBKiNWPulIAoCl5EFaCwtn8LW isBul9eXPPgzVVdB/WryHcsN7pD+OyAhmqKJq1EeKOW9uZ3nAYHgcSHciImmhWX8CZCN 5uJqs2lrCCwL6yyytsQkn6qleCMgHeqqY+6m8wGiUM6Hx1Lx3i2PapgC27UTQVuG575n 8P3Dzcnj0lyUu6nFPHkCBOzFUIHLwA9FEIqMZFJ9vhAIYBCbivXNz8nb8QstP43R2MSX tSNg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnzkwxqAcJdoR2x6Xcw1No57/3/7PJNdeHnBzhGPSsKSBPFumHJxpg7A+qJybE+217Oqu5P MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.73.41 with SMTP id i9mr2331108igv.30.1381490849936; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 04:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: peter@wgyb.biz Received: by 10.64.12.242 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 04:27:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [92.27.7.225] Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:27:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9Pq0vuGizS7x8R81eoAs01Xx_5U Message-ID: Subject: Frequent NMI warnings From: Peter Risdon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 11:27:37 -0000 Hi, $ uname -a FreeBSD xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243825: Tue Dec 4 09:23:10 UTC 2012 root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I'm getting a lot of these errors in the logs: +NMI ISA 30, EISA 0 +NMI ISA 30, EISA 0 +NMI ... going to debugger +NMI ISA 30, EISA 0 +NMI ... going to debugger +NMI ... going to debugger +NMI ISA 30, EISA 0 +NMI ISA 30, EISA 0 +NMI ... going to debugger +NMI ... going to debugger +NMI ISA 30, EISA 0 +NMI ISA 30, EISA 0 +NMI ... going to debugger +NMI ... going to debugger +NMI ISA 30, EISA 0 +NMI ... going to debugger Can anyone suggest how I could diagnose these errors? I saw some suggestions that memory faults might be a cause of similar problems but Memtest came up clear. Please cc me because I'm not a subscriber. Thanks in advance, Peter Risdon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 14:54:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8537695F for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@havokmon.com) Received: from smtp101-5.vfemail.net (nine.vfemail.net [108.76.175.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B28D2AA9 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7241 invoked by uid 89); 11 Oct 2013 14:48:00 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 7235, pid: 7238, t: 0.0720s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO www110) (cmlja0BoYXZva21vbi5jb20=@172.16.100.92) by 172.16.100.61 with ESMTPA; 11 Oct 2013 14:48:00 -0000 Received: from rrcs-98-103-53-237.central.biz.rr.com (rrcs-98-103-53-237.central.biz.rr.com [98.103.53.237]) by beta.vfemail.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:48:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:48:00 -0500 Message-ID: <20131011094800.Horde.DWE_GG8vTpIz4YNgqyjouQ1@beta.vfemail.net> From: Rick Romero To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 9.1 VM nfs3 & locks over VPN User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.1.4) X-VFEmail-Originating-IP: OTguMTAzLjUzLjIzNw== X-VFEmail-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0 @ X-VFEmail-AntiSpam: Notify admin@vfemail.net of any spam, and include VFEmail headers X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Plaintext Message X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:54:45 -0000 So let me explain my environment - I have 1 FreeBSD 7.1 server, multiple Linux boxes, and a FreeBSD 9.0 server.  The 9.0 server is providing NFS3 mounts to all the other systems. I've built a remote VM (FreeBSD 9.1 offered by Hosting provider), and connected it to my network via OpenVPN.  I copied my rc.conf from 9.0 server to 9.1 in order to grab the proper requirements for mount NFS3, and it worked fine until I ran my lock test (perl script).  Which really sucks because I've already gotten just about everything else I need working :( I cannot get a lock from any OS on this side of the VPN.  There are no errors logged anywhere, and adding rpcbind_flags="-l -L" just tells me that the local servers are contacted.  Oct 11 09:43:58 nl101 rpcbind: connect from 172.16.1.21 to getport/addr(mountd) Oct 11 09:44:07 nl101 rpcbind: connect from 172.16.1.21 to dump() Oct 11 09:44:15 nl101 rpcbind: connect from 172.16.1.21 to getport/addr(nfs) Oct 11 09:44:16 nl101 rpcbind: connect from 172.16.1.21 to getport/addr(mountd) Oct 11 09:44:21 nl101 rpcbind: connect from 172.16.1.21 to getport/addr(nlockmgr) Yes lockd is running and the logs show a connection is made to it.  I even tried binding rpcbind to just the VPN IP. What I couldn't do was enable debugging, the -d flag just caused rpcbind to hang. So I'm currently here: nfs_server_enable="YES" nfs_server_flags=" -u -t -n12" nfs_client_enable="YES" portmap_enable="YES" mountd_enable="YES" mountd_flags=" -r" rpcbind_enable="YES" rpc_lockd_enable="YES" rpc_statd_enable="YES" rpcbind_flags=" -l -L" #rpc_lockd_flags="-h 10.9.8.6" #rpc_statd_flags="-h 10.9.8.6" rpcinfo -p 9.0server and rpcinfo -p 9.1server  match program vers proto   port  service     100000    4   tcp    111  rpcbind     100000    3   tcp    111  rpcbind     100000    2   tcp    111  rpcbind     100000    4   udp    111  rpcbind     100000    3   udp    111  rpcbind     100000    2   udp    111  rpcbind     100000    4 local    111  rpcbind     100000    3 local    111  rpcbind     100000    2 local    111  rpcbind     100005    1   udp    994  mountd     100005    3   udp    994  mountd     100005    1   tcp    994  mountd     100005    3   tcp    994  mountd     100003    2   udp   2049  nfs     100003    3   udp   2049  nfs     100024    1   udp   1016  status     100024    1   tcp   1016  status     100003    2   tcp   2049  nfs     100003    3   tcp   2049  nfs     100021    0   udp    611  nlockmgr     100021    0   tcp    726  nlockmgr     100021    1   udp    611  nlockmgr     100021    1   tcp    726  nlockmgr     100021    3   udp    611  nlockmgr     100021    3   tcp    726  nlockmgr     100021    4   udp    611  nlockmgr     100021    4   tcp    726  nlockmgr I'm kinda lost.  I tried getting NFSv4 working, but I couldn't mount the test export.... nfsv4_server_enable="YES" nfsuserd_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" /nlsysvol/home  -maproot=vpopmail -network 172.16.1.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 V4: /mnt /mnt/first -maproot=root:  -network 172.16.1.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 The problem with using v4 is that I don't want to upgrade my 7.1 box - it just works as is :)  But if that's what I have to do, then that's what I have to do.  Can someone give me a push in the right direction?  I've been fighting this for a full day now. Here's my perl lock script - #!/usr/bin/perl use Fcntl qw(:flock); my $lock_file = 'lockfile'; open(LOCKFILE,">>$lock_file") or die "Cannot open $lock_file: $!\n"; print "Opened file $lock_file\n"; flock(LOCKFILE, LOCK_SH) or die "Can't get shared lock on $lock_file: $!\n"; print "Got shared lock on file $lock_file\n"; sleep 2; close LOCKFILE; print "Closed file $lock_file\n"; exit; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 15:31:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D33433 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x232.google.com (mail-oa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E509C2D6E for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id j1so2580268oag.9 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:31:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=B1QeyDH219I0+FoUzWzVg1J482s/Zmby4wQXijSqkc0=; b=ZmZqc0wHT0DwyvUMXpgnJv6zbiMrVuZ84sTvJdCNJMDeg6PO22ruBqIyutx9+SkkfU JK8qQ8SLDug/J8vCtJGlq0CrxEMab529Gke8DjOqHzJXUzAxrrxTtkKbjbQBU1F6rAuz W8tBj9miCX1WPZjE9Njt44M1XmZu0wlkchG7MGxj3tessWyrfpROI4k4RgMU1ArdpC8c w6H6ZB6hcgD10fWZ/d1hmYg1qiNIiblqY/as/UdoxiLpVkDiYnfAjWt+StOcwl82Z8Nu yNCitVpxW3l2BpACmRRUQQvmNOlvpu1QjCYBKWmEBylWreBNisOHraRxw2cLOU64tPx6 FonQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.142.8 with SMTP id rs8mr14903279oeb.34.1381505514979; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.168.137 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:31:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Use /usr/local/bin/itweb-javaws to open *.jnlp files From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:31:56 -0000 Dear folks, For a while I have been trying to fix an issue about opening *.jnlp files, i.e, itweb-javaws is not launching iced-tea web plugin :( I check test java installation and java is working correctly: I visit: https://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp I see: Your Java configuration is as follows: Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc. Version: Java SE 6 Update 32 Operating System: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE Java Architecture: 64-bit I launch *.jnlp file: I don't see anything, nothing works I want to launch gradebook application: $ /usr/local/bin/itweb-javaws --help Your custom JRE /usr/local/openjdk6 read from deployment.properties under key deployment.jre.dir as /usr/local/openjdk6 is not valid. Using default (/usr/local/openjdk6/jre/bin/java, /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/rt.jar) in attempt to start. Please fix this. Error: could not find libjava.so Error: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 16:20:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC62F63 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 16:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E24120DF for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 16:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfRb-0004e7-24 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:20:03 +0200 Received: from host-137-163-18-130.edu.hel.fi ([137.163.18.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:20:03 +0200 Received: from jarmo.hurri by host-137-163-18-130.edu.hel.fi with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:20:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jarmo Hurri Subject: Q: Updating a port (math:asymptote) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:14:48 +0300 Lines: 21 Message-ID: <87vc13aio7.fsf@syk.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-137-163-18-130.edu.hel.fi User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EbouBrgA8GI9nyJ6gVhkTyX7Ceo= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 16:20:11 -0000 Greetings. I would like to switch from Linux to FreeBSD, but am puzzled by the timeliness of the ports. In particular, I use a drawing program called asymptote quite heavily in my work. From the ports page I noticed that the ports version is approximately 14 months old: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=asymptote I tried to contact the maintainer via email, but got no response. What would be the correct procedure for trying to get that port updated? 1. Somehow get in contact with the maintainer. How? (I tried.) 2. Try to become a maintainer. How? 3. Something else? Thank you very much in advance for your responses. Jarmo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 17:11:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BB133F for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from mail33c50.megamailservers.eu (mail224c50.megamailservers.eu [91.136.10.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9142F24C1 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:11:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: ralf.mardorf.alice-dsl.net Received: from [85.182.16.204] (e182016204.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.182.16.204]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail33c50.megamailservers.eu (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9BGw8jN025529 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 16:58:11 +0000 Message-ID: <1381510689.1150.91.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Q: Updating a port (math:asymptote) From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:58:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87vc13aio7.fsf@syk.fi> References: <87vc13aio7.fsf@syk.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.0 cv=fcYaPTsF c=1 sm=1 a=htcXIfEhmgS/rKmRhgCSxQ==:17 a=QEduuKYDrqcA:10 a=ALKwz0t7uJUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=rsIYsMhsAAAA:8 a=-chUnWXDb0MA:10 a=xNf9USuDAAAA:8 a=WatJ-3cEGWoGkuZJsG8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=htcXIfEhmgS/rKmRhgCSxQ==:117 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.52582E23.011A, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:11:10 -0000 On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 19:14 +0300, Jarmo Hurri wrote: > I would like to switch from Linux to FreeBSD, but am puzzled by the > timeliness of the ports. In particular, I use a drawing program called > asymptote quite heavily in my work. From the ports page I noticed that > the ports version is approximately 14 months old: I guess that if software should depend on many other software, you can't get latest software versions working on FreeBSD that easy, if at all. Have you tested Debian's FreeBSD port? Debian GNU/kFreeBSD perhaps does provide a more current user space. https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 20:47:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F9A937 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@havokmon.com) Received: from smtp101-5.vfemail.net (nine.vfemail.net [108.76.175.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A79422E0 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21395 invoked by uid 89); 11 Oct 2013 20:47:41 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 21388, pid: 21392, t: 0.0791s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO www110) (cmlja0BoYXZva21vbi5jb20=@172.16.100.92) by 172.16.100.61 with ESMTPA; 11 Oct 2013 20:47:41 -0000 Received: from rrcs-98-103-53-237.central.biz.rr.com (rrcs-98-103-53-237.central.biz.rr.com [98.103.53.237]) by beta.vfemail.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:47:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:47:39 -0500 Message-ID: <20131011154739.Horde.qo57sPnkUEnm1FtQ8Yxxig3@beta.vfemail.net> From: Rick Romero To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 VM nfs3 & locks over VPN References: <20131011094800.Horde.DWE_GG8vTpIz4YNgqyjouQ1@beta.vfemail.net> In-Reply-To: <20131011094800.Horde.DWE_GG8vTpIz4YNgqyjouQ1@beta.vfemail.net> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.1.4) X-VFEmail-Originating-IP: OTguMTAzLjUzLjIzNw== X-VFEmail-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0 @ X-VFEmail-AntiSpam: Notify admin@vfemail.net of any spam, and include VFEmail headers X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Plaintext Message X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:47:45 -0000 Update - I've install a 9.1 VM locally, and I don't have the lock issue. I've also allowed access straight over the internet, and locks don't work. Now the non-working VM is not pristine like the test VM, but even so the kernels appear to match based on uname,so I'm guessing it's a problem with virtio block driver (which is not installed on the local test VM) or something funky with the hosting providers virtualization.  Does that shed any light on things? Quoting Rick Romero : > So let me explain my environment - > I have 1 FreeBSD 7.1 server, multiple Linux boxes, and a FreeBSD 9.0 > server.  The 9.0 server is providing NFS3 mounts to all the other systems. > I've built a remote VM (FreeBSD 9.1 offered by Hosting provider), and > connected it to my network via OpenVPN.  I copied my rc.conf from 9.0 > server to 9.1 in order to grab the proper requirements for mount NFS3, and > it worked fine until I ran my lock test (perl script).  Which really sucks > because I've already gotten just about everything else I need working :( > > I cannot get a lock from any OS on this side of the VPN.  There are no > errors logged anywhere, and adding rpcbind_flags="-l -L" just tells me > that > the local servers are contacted.  > Oct 11 09:43:58 nl101 rpcbind: connect from 172.16.1.21 to > getport/addr(mountd) > Oct 11 09:44:07 nl101 rpcbind: connect from 172.16.1.21 to dump() > Oct 11 09:44:15 nl101 rpcbind: connect from 172.16.1.21 to > getport/addr(nfs) > Oct 11 09:44:16 nl101 rpcbind: connect from 172.16.1.21 to > getport/addr(mountd) > Oct 11 09:44:21 nl101 rpcbind: connect from 172.16.1.21 to > getport/addr(nlockmgr) > Yes lockd is running and the logs show a connection is made to it.  I even > tried binding rpcbind to just the VPN IP. > What I couldn't do was enable debugging, the -d flag just caused rpcbind > to > hang. > So I'm currently here: > nfs_server_enable="YES" > nfs_server_flags=" -u -t -n12" > nfs_client_enable="YES" > portmap_enable="YES" > mountd_enable="YES" > mountd_flags=" -r" > rpcbind_enable="YES" > rpc_lockd_enable="YES" > rpc_statd_enable="YES" > rpcbind_flags=" -l -L" > #rpc_lockd_flags="-h 10.9.8.6" > #rpc_statd_flags="-h 10.9.8.6" > > rpcinfo -p 9.0server > and > rpcinfo -p 9.1server  match > program vers proto   port  service >     100000    4   tcp    111  rpcbind >     100000    3   tcp    111  rpcbind >     100000    2   tcp    111  rpcbind >     100000    4   udp    111  rpcbind >     100000    3   udp    111  rpcbind >     100000    2   udp    111  rpcbind >     100000    4 local    111  rpcbind >     100000    3 local    111  rpcbind >     100000    2 local    111  rpcbind >     100005    1   udp    994  mountd >     100005    3   udp    994  mountd >     100005    1   tcp    994  mountd >     100005    3   tcp    994  mountd >     100003    2   udp   2049  nfs >     100003    3   udp   2049  nfs >     100024    1   udp   1016  status >     100024    1   tcp   1016  status >     100003    2   tcp   2049  nfs >     100003    3   tcp   2049  nfs >     100021    0   udp    611  nlockmgr >     100021    0   tcp    726  nlockmgr >     100021    1   udp    611  nlockmgr >     100021    1   tcp    726  nlockmgr >     100021    3   udp    611  nlockmgr >     100021    3   tcp    726  nlockmgr >     100021    4   udp    611  nlockmgr >     100021    4   tcp    726  nlockmgr > > I'm kinda lost.  I tried getting NFSv4 working, but I couldn't mount the > test export.... > nfsv4_server_enable="YES" > nfsuserd_enable="YES" > nfs_client_enable="YES" > > /nlsysvol/home  -maproot=vpopmail -network 172.16.1.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 > V4: /mnt > /mnt/first -maproot=root:  -network 172.16.1.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > The problem with using v4 is that I don't want to upgrade my 7.1 box - it > just works as is :)  But if that's what I have to do, then that's what I > have to do.  > Can someone give me a push in the right direction?  I've been fighting > this for a full day now. > > Here's my perl lock script - > #!/usr/bin/perl > use Fcntl qw(:flock); > my $lock_file = 'lockfile'; > open(LOCKFILE,">>$lock_file") or die "Cannot open $lock_file: $!\n"; > print "Opened file $lock_file\n"; > flock(LOCKFILE, LOCK_SH) or die "Can't get shared lock on $lock_file: > $!\n"; > print "Got shared lock on file $lock_file\n"; > sleep 2; > close LOCKFILE; > print "Closed file $lock_file\n"; > exit; > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questionsTo > unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 21:25:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D15B6D1 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (uk1rly2283-a.eechost.net [217.69.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247AD2529 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VUkBX-0004bG-Fl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 22:23:47 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1VUkCg-000Dwu-8N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:24:58 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 22:24:57 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: Updating a port (math:asymptote) Message-Id: <20131011222457.18bc81cecd74908615be2bad@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <87vc13aio7.fsf@syk.fi> References: <87vc13aio7.fsf@syk.fi> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:25:07 -0000 On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:14:48 +0300 Jarmo Hurri wrote: > > Greetings. > > I would like to switch from Linux to FreeBSD, but am puzzled by the > timeliness of the ports. In particular, I use a drawing program called The extent to which any given port is kept up to date depends on the maintainer. > asymptote quite heavily in my work. From the ports page I noticed that > the ports version is approximately 14 months old: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=asymptote > > I tried to contact the maintainer via email, but got no response. > > What would be the correct procedure for trying to get that port updated? > > 1. Somehow get in contact with the maintainer. How? (I tried.) A non-responding maintainer may be for any number of reasons including having lost all interest, but sometimes they're just temporarily unavailable (on holiday, busy with other things ...) and will get back to it later. > 2. Try to become a maintainer. How? Step one would be to try bringing the port up to date yourself, sometimes it is as easy as editing the Makefile, changing the version and running make makesum to update the checksums. Sometimes the patches need to be adjusted in which case much depends on how much patching was needed in the first place. In the case of asymptote it looks like the only patch is adjusting the path to exampledir in Makefile.in which ought to be pretty easy to handle. The porters handbook has a lot of useful information on what to do when things get tricky. If you succeed in bringing the port up to date then your problem is solved (you have an up to date version) and if you use send-pr to submit the changes to bring it up to date then there's a good chance that you'll solve the same problem for everyone else who may want it. > 3. Something else? Wait for someone else to do it. FreeBSD is a volunteer project and the best way to make it better is to scratch your itches and contribute the result. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 21:39:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982A3B0D for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5833425DA for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VUkQP-0006ma-Gj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 23:39:09 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 23:39:09 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 23:39:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Do I really have to install 80 packages? Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 7 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:39:12 -0000 FreeBSD 9.1 I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 11 21:59:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56A94F9 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [64.19.172.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E382701 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from caduceus.wingfoot.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D716F39DC26 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:54:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by caduceus.wingfoot.org (wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10042) with ESMTP id fzkiebeqZXMG for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Sandal.local (ool-18bac79d.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.199.157]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC0BC39DC24 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <52587390.3070400@wingfoot.org> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:54:24 -0400 From: Glenn Sieb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:59:39 -0000 On 10/11/13 5:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > FreeBSD 9.1 > > I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by > x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. > > Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to > install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? Actually I think you want x11-toolkits/gtk20..? Would pkg_add work for you? Best, --Glenn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 03:32:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1D53A0 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 03:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E39D2587 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 03:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-65.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAF7C3CAE3; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:32:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r9C3VuUS002255; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:31:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:31:56 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Glenn Sieb Subject: Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages? Message-Id: <20131012053156.10e1d6b8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52587390.3070400@wingfoot.org> References: <52587390.3070400@wingfoot.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 03:32:12 -0000 On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:54:24 -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote: > On 10/11/13 5:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > > FreeBSD 9.1 > > > > I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by > > x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. > > > > Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to > > install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? > > Actually I think you want x11-toolkits/gtk20..? Would pkg_add work for you? Maybe graphics/librsvg2 is better suited (even though it's version 2 of the library). The problem initially mentions will remain: lots of installation dependencies. Sadly, that seems to be normal today as "modern software" tends to rely on layers of libraries of abstraction of tools of utilities of stuff of layers of layers of other abstractions. :-) As you see: "gnome-desktop" and "gtk20". That should bring your warning lights up: lots of dependencies ahead! When you try to install a "simple desktop environment", you'll be confronted with hundreds of packages to be installed, some of them you've probably never had thought of in regards of what you "need" to install a desktop, such as two or more different databases, LaTeX, translators, and other surprising stuff. This will probably apply to most complex components and parts of desktop environments or X11 toolkits (as mentioned above). As I mentioned, the librsvg2 port will install lib/librsvg-2.so. It might require you to re-install your target application to link against that library. A library libsvg.so (without version number) doesn't seem to be in the ports tree by that name. My lazy man's method of searching what port might contain the library: Midnight Commander, go to /usr/ports, Meta-?, seach in "pkg-plist", search for text "librsvg" and examine the results with PF3. This method relies on approaches that might be wrong... :-) Note that my (locally installed) ports tree is not up to date anymore so you should consider performing a search on a recent tree to make sure I didn't miss anything. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 05:36:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DF2605 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 562022AC9 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VUrsd-0003ct-0A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:36:47 +0200 Received: from cs78160219.pp.htv.fi ([62.78.160.219]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:36:46 +0200 Received: from jarmo.hurri by cs78160219.pp.htv.fi with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:36:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jarmo Hurri Subject: Re: Q: Updating a port (math:asymptote) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 08:36:37 +0300 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <87ob6vrqxm.fsf@syk.fi> References: <87vc13aio7.fsf@syk.fi> <20131011222457.18bc81cecd74908615be2bad@sohara.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cs78160219.pp.htv.fi User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:I0497bQvg2ObqJeBafddAXYOodU= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:36:49 -0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith writes: >> 2. Try to become a maintainer. How? > > Step one would be to try bringing the port up to date yourself, > sometimes it is as easy as editing the Makefile, changing the version > and running make makesum to update the checksums. Sometimes the > patches need to be adjusted in which case much depends on how much > patching was needed in the first place. In the case of asymptote it > looks like the only patch is adjusting the path to exampledir in > Makefile.in which ought to be pretty easy to handle. > > If you succeed in bringing the port up to date then your problem > is solved (you have an up to date version) and if you use send-pr to > submit the changes to bring it up to date then there's a good chance > that you'll solve the same problem for everyone else who may want it. Sounds reasonable. I think I'll give this a try once 10.0 is officially out. > FreeBSD is a volunteer project and the best way to make it > better is to scratch your itches and contribute the result. It would be interesting to know how the number of volunteers has changed during the past couple of years. Thanks! Jarmo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 05:43:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA637AE for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E5922B17 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VUrzM-0007wK-Bp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:43:44 +0200 Received: from cs78160219.pp.htv.fi ([62.78.160.219]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:43:44 +0200 Received: from jarmo.hurri by cs78160219.pp.htv.fi with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:43:44 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jarmo Hurri Subject: Re: Q: Updating a port (math:asymptote) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 08:43:35 +0300 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <87k3hjrqm0.fsf@syk.fi> References: <87vc13aio7.fsf@syk.fi> <1381510689.1150.91.camel@archlinux> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cs78160219.pp.htv.fi User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nRjJQSwltr5PtYNVJ0Jn5ITutX8= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:43:47 -0000 Ralf Mardorf writes: > Have you tested Debian's FreeBSD port? Debian GNU/kFreeBSD perhaps > does provide a more current user space. > https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD Hmm, I think I would prefer a distribution with a relatively large user base. The Wikipedia page also states that there are still major bugs in the system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD Still, thanks for the tip. Jarmo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 08:51:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802E6383 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 08:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D5E821AF for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 08:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hq4so132202wib.4 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 01:51:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GUBFRkxV/AEcbXHdnKFbk/V+pGIT88y6XqdIH6cUdrM=; b=0sb6ruaNa3UtIOYOCMEpoTkp3OfUghrnmC60NL5tOoo/lkRpNBMaGsjSoMnNK8Q9eF +OGWtIvCpuDN/ZhFzhUoM6CCJNwExFUK+5UaSI1N1gHQ3BYu+l8y5XYA4D+2p51C96Rl wFY7sO6nSXCpS98EudQ8agdsweccX/vwYmRF8teOgz9qDNEIDJSNmr+VbJq8oZ7FX/fH Ji9kvvLXFapHlMHBCckhvWUuAC7TRsqvp4fn5tzj04XrIXlBItQbhb+RnBsbAFSofoAO J7TB/vlOgTjQ145/9cOcvHisPvMLaRogNaKnmUcsi4IXDJths+bDxuQjvGhjV3S/l3vM zIeg== X-Received: by 10.194.20.202 with SMTP id p10mr1161710wje.39.1381567904331; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 01:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (171.33.91.91.rev.sfr.net. [91.91.33.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mw9sm13619177wib.0.2013.10.12.01.51.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Oct 2013 01:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52590D96.2010909@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 10:51:34 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Adoble Flash troubles on 9.2-RELEASE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 08:51:47 -0000 Hi, The current linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.310 version has some troubles on my machine (with Firefox). Sometimes, when a flash component is displayed and you scroll a bit the window the flash break and goes grey, you're forced to reload the page. I'm using the Intel new KMS driver if that matters, note that it never happened on my 9.1-RELEASE. Is anyone having a similar issue? Regards, David. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 09:30:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E879E7 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from mail37c50.megamailservers.eu (mail233c50.megamailservers.eu [91.136.10.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E79235E for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:30:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: ralf.mardorf.alice-dsl.net Received: from [92.231.4.196] (g231004196.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.231.4.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail37c50.megamailservers.eu (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9C92sD6010412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:02:59 +0000 Message-ID: <1381568574.744.91.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Adoble Flash troubles on 9.2-RELEASE From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:02:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <52590D96.2010909@gmail.com> References: <52590D96.2010909@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.0 cv=dYI3Kwre c=1 sm=1 a=mBpCdp1V/DRxdVESqPc2nA==:17 a=uVSGkYCxbQcA:10 a=ALKwz0t7uJUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=rsIYsMhsAAAA:8 a=rbqotedDh_UA:10 a=6lv9xAQV1GyDqRZG5E8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=cuzkDxS_4nMA:10 a=4pWC-cyYZ2sA:10 a=mBpCdp1V/DRxdVESqPc2nA==:117 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.52591043.0049, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:30:24 -0000 If you really need to visit sites that need Adobe Flash, you perhaps should use the google-chrome browser. For some websites with flash content, we don't need flash anymore, just modern HTML5 capable web browsers. For *nix there never will be a current version for flashplayer again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 09:52:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89C1C2C for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x22c.google.com (mail-we0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63243244C for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id q58so5282685wes.3 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 02:52:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pe/v3lLrqCcrYeD3HudB796ex2pAWwRKpip3ruO8wvc=; b=JUB/Hc+h0jpuGe6cjDB+11WTYvD6Iap+5JR8m+ZXCnlqut1Sifp5GQRO7LJ7xB5QFh gT19THbpV+LHEibsAeXulp8904VTZEeoYSMiXgmM5a4lF1++Ff6qsuRxYOeW9OKCI/Ma kSX567XmGmu9CLoGyqKm4KCLOSJa4h3kp0mSpHyE5jrKKiRghvKIcAj2pnMJ17n25S6t 8idnOpLAeIc3gs25TvjY41IHn1M39Vuv1rC18NTPbt+1LqC4bLhgv1rWAkX3wSOZibBq SKYlt2qN891WJi0HUOPzXdCbpoDIgBI3diCbvLGjOIL8msI0ps7rlzy54MjHqEfc5FQX cxrw== X-Received: by 10.180.37.164 with SMTP id z4mr6861411wij.30.1381571545921; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 02:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (171.33.91.91.rev.sfr.net. [91.91.33.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e5sm13613057wiy.2.2013.10.12.02.52.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Oct 2013 02:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52591BD1.6030305@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:52:17 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adoble Flash troubles on 9.2-RELEASE References: <52590D96.2010909@gmail.com> <1381568574.744.91.camel@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <1381568574.744.91.camel@archlinux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:52:27 -0000 On 12.10.2013 11:02, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > If you really need to visit sites that need Adobe Flash, you perhaps > should use the google-chrome browser. For some websites with flash > content, we don't need flash anymore, just modern HTML5 capable web > browsers. For *nix there never will be a current version for flashplayer > again. > Yes I know that adobe flash player for *nix is gone but I'm guessing why it worked well so much before.. I don't like much chrome but I'll give a try to see. Thanks for the hint! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 11:18:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A474BA4 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from mail36c50.megamailservers.eu (mail228c50.megamailservers.eu [91.136.10.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7712A27F5 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:18:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: ralf.mardorf.alice-dsl.net Received: from [92.231.4.196] (g231004196.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.231.4.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail36c50.megamailservers.eu (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9CAb0n9011264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 10:37:04 +0000 Message-ID: <1381574220.744.113.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Adoble Flash troubles on 9.2-RELEASE From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 12:37:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <52591BD1.6030305@gmail.com> References: <52590D96.2010909@gmail.com> <1381568574.744.91.camel@archlinux> <52591BD1.6030305@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.0 cv=Uc3mvtuN c=1 sm=1 a=mBpCdp1V/DRxdVESqPc2nA==:17 a=uVSGkYCxbQcA:10 a=ALKwz0t7uJUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=rsIYsMhsAAAA:8 a=rbqotedDh_UA:10 a=C---hqewAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=20KSFuyyTSkB_hE1eSEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=InsWBzPqDngA:10 a=mBpCdp1V/DRxdVESqPc2nA==:117 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.52592651.0015, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:18:55 -0000 On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 11:52 +0200, David Demelier wrote: > I don't like much chrome but I'll give a try to see. +1 It's not a browser I like. Since I'm using my computer for audio production my FreeBSD isn't maintained, I need to use Linux, so I don't know if Chrome is available for FreeBSD. When I google (resp. startpage.com search) for FreeBSD and Chrome, it seems to be that the hits aren't about Chrome, but Chromium instead. Chromium doesn't include Adobe Flash, https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome . Sorry for the noise. At least we could use Adobe Flash by Chrome with FreeBSD in a virtual machine running a Linux instead of a Windows guest. Or is Chrome available for FreeBSD too? Perhaps you should post the links that don't work with the latest Linux version of Adobe Flash, so others could test if the issue is really caused by Flash Player and not by something else. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 11:33:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD9BEE1 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFFAD28BE for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VUxRm-0003UZ-P3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:33:26 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:33:26 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:33:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages? Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 59 Message-ID: References: <52587390.3070400@wingfoot.org> < 20131012053156.10e1d6b8.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:33:30 -0000 On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:31:56 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:54:24 -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote: >> On 10/11/13 5:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: >> > FreeBSD 9.1 >> > >> > I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by >> > x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. >> > >> > Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to >> > install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? >> >> Actually I think you want x11-toolkits/gtk20..? Would pkg_add work for >> you? > > Maybe graphics/librsvg2 is better suited (even though it's version 2 of > the library). The problem initially mentions will remain: lots of > installation dependencies. Sadly, that seems to be normal today as > "modern software" tends to rely on layers of libraries of abstraction of > tools of utilities of stuff of layers of layers of other abstractions. > :-) > > As you see: "gnome-desktop" and "gtk20". That should bring your warning > lights up: lots of dependencies ahead! > > When you try to install a "simple desktop environment", you'll be > confronted with hundreds of packages to be installed, some of them > you've probably never had thought of in regards of what you "need" to > install a desktop, such as two or more different databases, LaTeX, > translators, and other surprising stuff. This will probably apply to > most complex components and parts of desktop environments or X11 > toolkits (as mentioned above). > > As I mentioned, the librsvg2 port will install lib/librsvg-2.so. > It might require you to re-install your target application to link > against that library. > > A library libsvg.so (without version number) doesn't seem to be in the > ports tree by that name. > > My lazy man's method of searching what port might contain the library: > Midnight Commander, go to /usr/ports, Meta-?, seach in "pkg-plist", > search for text "librsvg" and examine the results with PF3. This method > relies on approaches that might be wrong... :-) > > Note that my (locally installed) ports tree is not up to date anymore so > you should consider performing a search on a recent tree to make sure I > didn't miss anything. Thanks Polytropon, but the one I needed was this: x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop/pkg-plist:%%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%/gtk-2.0/ rsvg.so I have given in, let it install all 80 ports, saved the one shlib I need and deleted the ports again. All is now well. By the way, I needed it for the 'screenlets' Python applications; in particular ClockScreenlet.py. 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[75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rr6sm104028394oeb.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Oct 2013 08:53:57 -0700 (PDT) From: aurfalien Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 08:53:55 -0700 Message-Id: To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:53:59 -0000 Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a "hey, why is my Mac = faster then my PC" kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. My hardware; 39 SATA drives via SAS expanders 2 SSD for ZIL 2 SSD for L2Arc 128GB ECC Ram Intel 2400SC Mobo 2 Xeon E5 Hexacore procs 2 LSI 9207 HBAs 1 LSI 9206 HBA I've 13 vdev RaidZ setup. Not a super system, but not a shabby one either. Used local (non network) IOzone and dd tests for some simple prelim = testing just to gauge were I'm at with this bad boy. My ZFS tunables are the same BTW as I did some tweaks. My CentOS 6.4 box is a solid 20-30% faster then my FreeBSD 9.2 box. = I've the graphs if any one is interested. But I'm hoping that some one has ran into this and that yes, there are = some tweaks one can do to the LSI driver? I guess? Perhaps a sysctl = value? I didn't want to vomit too much info in my first email about this so = yes, its meant to be some what general with some decent info to get the = dialogue started. Many thanks in advance for any insight. Linux is not an option as it does not return pre attributes on write = replies which is important in our mostly NFS env. - aurf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 17:56:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221B48E4 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBA8A2933 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998B721672 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:56:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=5s5RNm+BAGfImBsY951O92t2fv8=; b=Bm5 5Li2c7zvAMr+wgqqIYzgW0dYI/AodE36X9jf7UJ3Ks5zi5hNhErfdGELu9E0I1GW pCpQa42D0f0o24su4sW/AHAuSGmzKsQ70EgaqKCj/3V5WeQ27a0E1uBKw8rs31e4 0s9uqLd+F3PZ3UIwHDf3hEKG6Zox4MvYhFU6ib4k= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 781A7117316; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1381600575.18393.33219025.5D7B78D0@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: PStDMLRNXgNPJAIkxkeNA7xNv2YhhRvJLw+WUzudko0g 1381600575 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 12:56:15 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:56:17 -0000 On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to first say that by no means is this a "hey, why is my Mac > faster then my PC" kind of email. > > I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. > It may very well be an LSI firmware issue. What are the firmwares for those HBAs? 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Message-ID: <20131012232840.1f1f8455@gnewsense.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <52587390.3070400@wingfoot.org> <20131012053156.10e1d6b8.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/Nya5NONkynq8wYxWQzT8C2f"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 22:27:58 -0000 --Sig_/Nya5NONkynq8wYxWQzT8C2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know what others think, but what *I* really want is that the free software versions of Flash (gnash and klash, etc) work at least as well as versions of Adobe Flash do, or if versions of Adobe Flash are to be used, that it will be free and covered by the GPL. 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I can't code but would be willing to join a project with those achievable goals, but it hasn't appeared yet, so I don't seriously expect it will happen any time soon..... ++ Graham Todd --Sig_/Nya5NONkynq8wYxWQzT8C2f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlJZzRgACgkQ3lv/TkjVsTLzNwD+PGP9Bxf9nrIg/BEQQfU79vQs HNdJXaaKozm8+xN6PlYA/R0vU8wDuzF2Yze8XUg5MKLUNxJ29JCGQ73gEDwz0vUT =Hn/R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Nya5NONkynq8wYxWQzT8C2f-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 23:15:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5FFB2F; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurfalien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x235.google.com (mail-ob0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78C5E259E; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id va2so3839428obc.12 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:15:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=wxFYh14MjtEFD0DogfuKbTx0MLtwIPqT2CyLCjEKXyg=; b=c/n2o4fXFeNSAWNA1fBpxEbpqs1G/OcrwAQyENvX2q0PClc91nsI4TUrzD/p56xvtC VN9ChiIqjIjyG/sxy65JNWIfBBHM6ORZ+63GBfA7yNFuk7s9I9h7sqjH5shRrErhKBZ+ lNEaocCetCrmNz33Tq4Z42jCPnDPjKKA1wONM1ktR4orlbmdgkWgk3lePkcin6YSJ22M BnrNECsbXm9uCKmTEAlpah75Bcgx0hmNGq5XDfUI5FbGgqq+SBf7oltzBGeqUDyPUDmf 3isVuM4dZXmirQTck5UVPL6kmv468nYTOwZVfxCtSPKHqZjMMHlQchuZ3WoOu0C7+36m 6SqA== X-Received: by 10.60.73.137 with SMTP id l9mr20929824oev.32.1381619715302; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] (75-63-29-182.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xr8sm32615773obc.12.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: <1381600575.18393.33219025.5D7B78D0@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:15:11 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1381600575.18393.33219025.5D7B78D0@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: Mark Felder X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:15:16 -0000 On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> I would like to first say that by no means is this a "hey, why is my = Mac >> faster then my PC" kind of email. >>=20 >> I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. >>=20 >=20 > It may very well be an LSI firmware issue. What are the firmwares for > those HBAs? Well, the 2 LSI 9207s are rebadge Intel being Intel RS25GB008 ( = http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/servers/raid/raid-controller-rs25gb= 008.html ) with the latest Intel firmware. The lone 9206-16e has the latest LSI firmware. Shall I downgrade to a particular version? I would love to resolve this performance oddity. Thanks for getting back to me, I know its a weird one with an annoying = subject as its apples and oranges. I would be happy to get you exact info of anything I have, so feel free. - aurf= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 23:48:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3598170F; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurfalien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x234.google.com (mail-oa0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E691526DC; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id n2so3500227oag.39 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:48:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=1G3llKdjSGdpL+CFNwSwejxfU7usCc/H7oY3hySI4Eg=; b=v6PA9W8ffPYnzRC6wuHU/5HhwZkbTsMiobQRS61eYGAsTrl0oWvax+qFXsmqX/LJB0 FS7dF4sXrjgRrkndjtU6SmIP9BBRsZafMPDnTWAAQxvUIJ/W2nveiOmE173XRQufM7RY 9k+NBaMX5PA73kTt0eh8ViTVAWyHTke++b4/y5Wr//ypLotT8uaZ94winUQaGb0hyOMr pjt1w0hpDrbEWQEvkyp1GfQtDqqv8cRX7yyOd+dl2j79zJXQpSSiMossqbF4lQV54VZ9 DV8zUt89fZ+3ER1tqQ23iK1Q+iHhXJaJuZeh4+QtOtSg81Ops16qjr016BGriEmodZxL 9YMA== X-Received: by 10.60.115.164 with SMTP id jp4mr20881261oeb.19.1381621732306; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] (75-63-29-182.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hl3sm32733348obb.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: <1381600575.18393.33219025.5D7B78D0@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:48:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1381600575.18393.33219025.5D7B78D0@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: Mark Felder X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:48:53 -0000 On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> I would like to first say that by no means is this a "hey, why is my = Mac >> faster then my PC" kind of email. >>=20 >> I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. >>=20 >=20 > It may very well be an LSI firmware issue. What are the firmwares for > those HBAs? I'll get you the exact firmware revs on Monday. 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To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" In-Reply-To: <1381621449.65080.YahooMailNeo@web121206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cikitaluzza List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:53:24 -0000 can i run exe files on freeBSD?it spoils fast or not?this question comes fr= om fastest ever spoil OS windows which always spoil in a week seven times i= think with things like errors or dll and many things from blue screen.do y= ou have any problems within freeBSD or no problems?i dont like blue screen = error or driver things and no matter what .how much total ram and bit is my= pc of=A0amd athlon(tm) 64 x2 dual core processor 4000+ 2.11 GHz 960 MB RAM= ?im always in internet watching live camers,what do you suggest me to use o= s type?i like to save pictures and videos and never lost them,if you think = your os is gonna spoil and lost my all files then i dont need it.i want sta= ble os and never to reinstall or update=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, October 13, 2= 013 2:44 AM, cikitaluzza wrote:=0A =0Awhat kind of= freeBSD to download for my pc?amd athlon(tm) 64 x2 dual core processor 400= 0+ 2.11 GHz 960 MB RAM