From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 9 10:11: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sage-one.net (adsl-65-71-135-137.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.71.135.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B5C37B40B for ; Thu, 9 May 2002 10:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SAGEONE (sageone [192.168.0.5]) by sage-one.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g49H9Yb72471; Thu, 9 May 2002 12:09:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020509120932.03016918@mail.sage-one.net> X-Sender: jackstone@mail.sage-one.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 12:09:32 -0500 To: Claus Assmann From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: /var/spool/{mqueue,clientmqueue} and 'mailq' Cc: FreeBSD Stable List In-Reply-To: <20020509095907.A26433@zardoc.esmtp.org> References: <3.0.5.32.20020509115700.03016918@mail.sage-one.net> <3.0.5.32.20020509071919.011c7318@mail.sage-one.net> <15577.60930.577722.682790@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020509012717.GA43918@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <3.0.5.32.20020509071919.011c7318@mail.sage-one.net> <15578.40154.708777.223495@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3.0.5.32.20020509115700.03016918@mail.sage-one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:59 AM 5.9.2002 -0700, Claus Assmann wrote: >On Thu, May 09, 2002, Jack L. Stone wrote: >> At 08:59 AM 5.9.2002 -0700, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: >> >jackstone> ...a further question I have that I don't see in the mailq man >> >jackstone> pages is how to kill the remaining part of a majordomo mailing >> >jackstone> where the system wants to keeping trying to deliver some >> >jackstone> stale-addressed remaining emails for up to 5 days. These emails >> >jackstone> will never be delivered because the address have become stale. I >> >jackstone> have removed them from the mail list so they won;t be there at >> >jackstone> the next mailing, but, the mqueue is still trying to deliver >> >jackstone> them needlessly. That queue was uselful in shwoing the bad >> >jackstone> addresses, but need to be purged.... but how...??? >> > >> >sendmail automatically bounces the mail after 5 days (by default, see >> >Timeout.queuereturn). >> > >> Gregory: Yes, I knew that, but since I also know that is a waste of time on >> these emails, I was curious if there was a safe way of removing them so the >> system could go on to new things. > >Can you post a real example? What was the SMTP reply code of the >other side? A permanent (5xy) error? In that case the recipient >should not be tried again. > The list keeps dwindling down, but the ones left have mostly "server reset" or "server timeout". But, even though sendmail is being loyal in its attempts to deliver, I know now that the emails are stale (one guy died for instance)..... so, there's no point in sendmail keeping on, but as long as it doesn't interfere with the next mailings, I suppose there's nothing to be concerned about if they go away after 5 days. I have purged these stale addresses from the mail list so they won't be put though again.... .... our website: http://www.sage-one.net/ Best regards, Jack L. Stone Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message