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Date:      Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:21:37 +0100
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, Paul Traina <pst@juniper.net>, core@FreeBSD.ORG, junichi@jp.freebsd.org, committers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: wfd block major number reassignment from 24 to 1 
Message-ID:  <3663.887412097@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:19:21 PST." <199802132319.PAA05082@dingo.cdrom.com> 

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In message <199802132319.PAA05082@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes:
>> I belive that persistence in DEVFS is a BAD thing, but I'm appearantly
>> pretty alone on -core with this view...
>
>Have you ever wanted to change permissions on an entry in /dev?

yes.

In which case I always add it to /etc/rc.local so I'm sure it will
be there on the next reboot.

I also generally make it a wildcard thing so I do it for all the
disks/ttys or whatever I want to do it to.

>If not, then your stance is understandable.  But as soon as you accept 
>that there may be more than one "right" set of permissions for 
>something, you accept that persistence is required.

Yes I have, and no I do not accept that.

If I decide that disks should be "642 foo.mumble" on my machine,
I should be able to express that such that when I add more disks
it will DTRT.

Permissions in /dev is a policy issue, and should be handled as
such: ie, from a root-controlled config file.

I belive persistence in devfs (as in /dev) is a very bad thing.

--
Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
"Drink MONO-tonic, it goes down but it will NEVER come back up!"

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