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Date:      Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:40:03 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: kern/26224
Message-ID:  <200108162040.f7GKe3E60401@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR kern/26224; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
To: Thomas Moestl <tmoestl@gmx.net>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: kern/26224
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 15:34:51 -0500

 * Thomas Moestl <tmoestl@gmx.net> [010816 12:59]:
 > On Tue, 2001/08/14 at 01:53:09 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 > > * Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org> [010725 19:05]:
 > > > * Thomas Moestl <tmoestl@gmx.net> [010725 17:05]:
 > > > > I have attached a patch I want to post to -stable soon for people to
 > > > > test. I'm sure that it fixes this panic (the lock is just removed;
 > > > > this section is also protected by the mp_lock, so it should be
 > > > > safe). However, this is largely untested (I don't have an SMP box, and
 > > > > on UP simplelocks are disabled). So, be warned, I could have
 > > > > overlooked something, so other panics might surface...
 > > > > On the other hand, you could probably test this patch well, because
 > > > > your box seems rather stressed ;)
 > > > Ok, it's applied, and booted.  We'll see.  This one seems to hit me
 > > > every 3-4 weeks. 
 > > Even WITH this fix in, I just had the lockup version hit me.
 > > Unfortunately, ctrl/break did *NOT* bring up DDB.  The basic TCP stack
 > > was working (ping, telnet got to the connected to xxx part), but the
 > > box wouldn't give a login prompt nor serve www pages. 
 > 
 > Hmmm. Did that lockup version happen before? A certain deadlock should
 > also be fixed by the patch, but I'd guess that you are hitting a
 > different issue.
 Yes, we've seen the lockup before.
 > 
 > > I don't know how to get the debug info. 
 > 
 > Dumb question: you do have ddb in your kernel, and crtrl-break is
 > wired to enter ddb in the key map you use?
 > It is unusual for the type of bug that I'm expecting that network
 > interrupts are still being processed while tty interrupts are not.
 YES.  We just found that for SYSCONS, the DDB key is CTRL/PRTSC.  Will
 try to get the DDB next time it fails (2-3 weeks :-( ). 
 > 
 > For this type of bug, it is not easy to get debug information,
 > especially if there is no easy way to trigger it.
 > One method to get into ddb anyway was to trigger an NMI via the ISA
 > bus, but this does not work with most newer main boards.
 > For SMP machines, however, Tor Egge has posted a patch to one of the
 > mailing lists (-current or -hackers, I think) that rewires the
 > interrupt of a serial port to the NMI using the APIC, that might help
 > you (although it probably should be used with care).
 We'll see what happens on next fail. Thanks!
 
 
 > 
 > 	- thomas
 > 
 > P.S.: sorry for the late answer, I have been kind of busy lately ;)
 No Problem, I understand. 
 
 LER
 
 
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