Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:48:29 -0700 From: "Kirk Vorsatz" <kcv@hallkinion.com> To: <will@highveldcs.com>, <fscked@pacbell.net> Cc: "Tom Creighton" <tcreighton@hallkinion.com> Subject: Re: Job for Sr Linux Sys Admin with NT, Oracle and Masters Degree Message-ID: <sd6c8e66.055@smtp.hallkinion.com>
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This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_0F5353C6.5839275C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_0F5353C6.5938265D" --=_0F5353C6.5938265D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been recruiting for a very long time. You can see from my = signature that I have been a top performer for several years at Hall = kinion......let me explain to you the importance of the Master's degree to = this position..... The company is a 15 year old financial company that has the #1 debt = collateralization product in the Stock Trading industry. There location = here in CA has roughly 20 people with at least 12+ developers that have = Masters of PHD's in Mathematics.... the company is ran from a development = point of view. Development has never held much regard for anyone in IT- = there philosophy is if it works that is all that matters. Rather than = have there database run optimally they would rather by new boxes. They = are using EXE as the backup. The reason for the Master's degree is to = help gain the respect of these developers as well as someone with a = Master's will understand IT issues from the developers perspective. Running NT on the Desktop is only part of the position. The challenge is = rearchitecting a 24X7 Linux Oracle environment that already exists and = works today while explaining to the developers that a system in their eyes = that works is not optimal in the future. I welcome your remarks..... Kirk C. Vorsatz Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter Recruiter of the Year 2000 Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division KCV@hallkinion.com 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 650-345-5600 ext 218 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " >>> richard childers <fscked@pacbell.net> 08/28/02 07:22AM >>> My point exactly. Points to Willie for thinking clearly. -- richard Willie Viljoen wrote: > Richard, > > At the risk of jumping to conclusions, I think there's probably some > confusion here, a masters degree is probably not what they are looking = for > at all. > > It's a common misconception that people have about the MCSE, a diploma > issued by Microsoft, stating that the holder is qualified to operate a > Windows NT-based network. Because of a lack of non-technical information > about the diploma, many people become confused, and because of the "M" = in > the title, the acronym has been contstrued to mean many interesting > (incorrect) things, including "Masters in Computer Systems Engineering", > ofcourse, it really means "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer". > > I'm thinking there may have been some miscommunication somewhere along = the > lines where an MCSE turned into a Masters :) > > An MCSE is probably the likely thing the company would want, seeing as > they are using NT machines. > > Somebody with a masters shouldn't be working as a sysadmin, that would > just be wrong :) > > Will > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, richard childers wrote: > > > Some people might suggest that Linux has hardly been around long = enough > > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior Linux administrator'. > > > > What constitutes 'seniority' in Linux? > > > > And what does the master's degree have to be in? > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. (-: > > > > > > Yours for reasonable requirements, > > > > > > -- richard > > > > > > Kirk Vorsatz wrote: > > > > > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system admin at = a > > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT person responsibl= e > > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well as overseeing Oracle > > > servers....... Please email me if interested.... Kirk C. Vorsatz > > > Sr. Executive Technical Recruiter > > > Recruiter of the Year 2000 > > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 > > > Hall Kinion Direct-Hire Division > > > KCV@hallkinion.com > > > 1-888-682-6400 ext 218 > > > 650-345-5600 ext 218 > > > 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! " > > > > -- > > > > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator > > "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, = 1759 > > > > > > -- > Willie Viljoen > Highveld Computing Solutions > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue > Universitas > Bloemfontein > 9321 > > South Africa > > +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 > +27 82 404 03 27 > > will@highveldcs.com > > To find out how we can help you with inventive solutions, visit > http://www.highveldcs.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message -- Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759 --=_0F5353C6.5938265D Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: HTML <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1"= > <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 2px; FONT: 10pt Times New Roman; MARGIN-LEFT: = 2px"> <DIV>I have been recruiting for a very long time. You can see from = my=20 signature that I have been a top performer for several years at Hall=20 kinion......let me explain to you the importance of the Master's degree to = this=20 position.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The company is a 15 year old financial company that has the #1 = debt=20 collateralization product in the Stock Trading industry. There = location=20 here in CA has roughly 20 people with at least 12+ developers that have = Masters=20 of PHD's in Mathematics.... the company is ran from a development point = of=20 view. Development has never held much regard for anyone in IT- = there=20 philosophy is if it works that is all that matters. Rather than have = there=20 database run optimally they would rather by new boxes. They are = using EXE=20 as the backup. The reason for the Master's degree is to help gain = the=20 respect of these developers as well as someone with a Master's will = understand=20 IT issues from the developers perspective.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Running NT on the Desktop is only part of the position. The = challenge=20 is rearchitecting a 24X7 Linux Oracle environment that already exists and = works=20 today while explaining to the developers that a system in their eyes that = works=20 is not optimal in the future. I welcome your remarks.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Kirk C. Vorsatz<BR>Sr. Executive Technical=20 Recruiter<BR>Recruiter of the Year 2000<BR>Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000,=20 2001<BR>Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001<BR>Hall Kinion=20 Direct-Hire Division</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:KCV@hallkinion.com">KCV@hallkinion.com</A><BR>1-888-682-6400= ext=20 218<BR>650-345-5600 ext 218<BR>650-245-7043 = =20 cell</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>" Work With The Best ! "</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR>>>> richard childers <fscked@pacbell.net> = 08/28/02=20 07:22AM >>><BR>My point exactly.<BR><BR>Points to Willie for = thinking=20 clearly.<BR><BR><BR>-- richard<BR><BR><BR>Willie Viljoen wrote:<BR><BR>>= =20 Richard,<BR>><BR>> At the risk of jumping to conclusions, I think = there's=20 probably some<BR>> confusion here, a masters degree is probably not = what they=20 are looking for<BR>> at all.<BR>><BR>> It's a common misconception= that=20 people have about the MCSE, a diploma<BR>> issued by Microsoft, stating = that=20 the holder is qualified to operate a<BR>> Windows NT-based network. = Because=20 of a lack of non-technical information<BR>> about the diploma, many = people=20 become confused, and because of the "M" in<BR>> the title, the acronym = has=20 been contstrued to mean many interesting<BR>> (incorrect) things, = including=20 "Masters in Computer Systems Engineering",<BR>> ofcourse, it really = means=20 "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer".<BR>><BR>> I'm thinking there = may=20 have been some miscommunication somewhere along the<BR>> lines where an = MCSE=20 turned into a Masters :)<BR>><BR>> An MCSE is probably the likely = thing=20 the company would want, seeing as<BR>> they are using NT=20 machines.<BR>><BR>> Somebody with a masters shouldn't be working as = a=20 sysadmin, that would<BR>> just be wrong :)<BR>><BR>>=20 Will<BR>><BR>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, richard childers=20 wrote:<BR>><BR>> > Some people might suggest that Linux has = hardly been=20 around long enough<BR>> > to someone to *become* a so-called 'senior = Linux=20 administrator'.<BR>> ><BR>> > What constitutes 'seniority' = in=20 Linux?<BR>> ><BR>> > And what does the master's degree have to = be=20 in?<BR>> ><BR>> > Inquiring minds want to know. =20 (-:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Yours for reasonable=20 requirements,<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > -- richard<BR>>=20 ><BR>> ><BR>> > Kirk Vorsatz wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> = >=20 > I have a fantastic fulltime opportunity for a Linux system = admin at=20 a<BR>> > > 15 year old company where you would be the sol.e IT = person=20 responsible<BR>> > > for all Desktop (NT and Exchange) as well = as=20 overseeing Oracle<BR>> > > servers....... Please email me if=20 interested.... Kirk C. Vorsatz<BR>> > > = Sr.=20 Executive Technical Recruiter<BR>> > > Recruiter of the Year=20 2000<BR>> > > Top 5 Recruiter 1999, 2000, 2001<BR>> > = >=20 Chairman's Club Winner, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001<BR>> > > Hall = Kinion=20 Direct-Hire Division<BR>> > > KCV@hallkinion.com<BR>> > = >=20 1-888-682-6400 ext 218<BR>> > > 650-345-5600 ext 218<BR>> > = >=20 650-245-7043 cell " Work With The Best ! = "<BR>>=20 ><BR>> > --<BR>> ><BR>> > Richard A Childers/KG6HAC = --=20 Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator<BR>> > "Dont forget=20 nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759<BR>> = ><BR>>=20 ><BR>><BR>> --<BR>> Willie Viljoen<BR>> Highveld = Computing=20 Solutions<BR>><BR>> 214 Paul Kruger Avenue<BR>> Universitas<BR>>= ;=20 Bloemfontein<BR>> 9321<BR>><BR>> South Africa<BR>><BR>> +27 = 51=20 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36<BR>> +27 82 404 03 27<BR>><BR>>=20= will@highveldcs.com<BR>><BR>> To find out how we can help you = with=20 inventive solutions, visit<BR>> <A=20 href=3D"http://www.highveldcs.com/">http://www.highveldcs.com/</A><BR>><= BR>>=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org<BR>> with "unsubscrib= e=20 freebsd-jobs" in the body of the message<BR><BR>--<BR><BR>Richard A=20 Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator<BR>"Dont = forget=20 nothing." 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