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Date:      Wed, 6 May 2020 04:59:14 -0400
From:      Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
To:        Shamim Shahriar <shamim.shahriar@gmail.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: bsd install
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> I personally do not support and to some extent hate spoon
> feeding. I sent you a link about how to ask questions the right way,
> which suggested many different things to do before you ask the question
> -- obviously that was not your preferred way forward.
>
...

> Once you have at least the basics
> right, only then can you have a meaningful exchange with the people on
> the list.
>
> Hope this helps
>

It almost certainly does not help to have your attitude towards beginners
with thinking like this, which luckily is not everyone on the list, no
wonder FreeBSD has the reputation it has for being unfriendly (I would
agree it is not a OS meant for beginners it doesn't mean we should push
them away).

This is the beginners list, after all, according to the Handbook -- not one
of the more specialized lists where expectations of RTFM are more
appropriate.  Note that even on other lists the OP is being treated with a
much more open mind (ex. see his bhyve thread on -virtualization@)

-- 
Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org



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