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Date:      Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:13:40 -0400
From:      Tim Vanderhoek <vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        Bill Fumerola <billf@jade.chc-chimes.com>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/emulators/linux_base Makefile
Message-ID:  <19990806191340.D11290@mad>
In-Reply-To: <199908061700.KAA03350@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 10:00:50AM -0700
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9908061201430.45391-100000@jade.chc-chimes.com> <199908061700.KAA03350@dingo.cdrom.com>

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On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 10:00:50AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> I'm still not convinced that the port is actually broken per se., but 
> Marcel probably needs to comment on that.

From the message that billf left in the commit log, it looks like
everything worked fine when he tried the port.  That's what you get
for reading the install messages too closely.

The problem that Steve is referring to, and the one that recently
showed-up in a PR, is a different beast.  That occurs when you try to
install the port on a machine that thinks it is running -stable or
-current but is actually running -release + a few days...  When the
port was written, the assumption was made that most people running
-stable would actually run -stable (vs. -release + delta).  Others
would read the Makefile to see what they needed to do.  This was a
conscious trade-off.  A trade-off was unavoidable since nobody
actually got off their ass and bumped FreeBSD release version.

It's possible that Bill ran into this latter problem, but I can't tell
from the piece of commit log I saw.  I suspect the former instead.

Either way, I don't believe the port is broken.

It could perhaps issue a message "errors are expected during this
install" before installing, but I didn't even propose such a message
to Marcel when I reviewed the port because such messages are
stupid in most cases.

[If someone's too lazy to read far enough down to see that the install
 worked, they're probably too lazy to read far enough up to see that it
 might have worked, even though it just printed " * Error 53\nmake:
 don't know how to make foozgobble.\n".


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