Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:28:12 -0200 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@tcoip.com.br> To: Gordon Tetlow <gordont@gnf.org> Cc: Mike Makonnen <mtm@identd.net>, current@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org, Doug Barton <DougB@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: RC NG, ntp and routed Message-ID: <3DF775AC.40507@tcoip.com.br> In-Reply-To: <3DF4996E.1040706@tcoip.com.br> References: <3DF4996E.1040706@tcoip.com.br> <20021210024350.GC16008@matrix.identd.net> <20021210162208.GJ45512@roark.gnf.org> <3DF61DE4.9070205@tcoip.com.br> <20021210225014.GA22267@matrix.identd.net> <20021211002318.GT45512@roark.gnf.org> <20021211054754.GA23972@matrix.identd.net> <20021211063348.GU45512@roark.gnf.org> <20021211084603.GA24584@matrix.identd.net> <20021211171527.GW45512@roark.gnf.org>
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Gordon Tetlow wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:46:03AM -0800, Mike Makonnen wrote:
>
> >You misunderstood. I meant let's move the routing daemons from
> /usr/sbin to /sbin.
> >I think if we have routed there we might as well have the others
> there. Actually we
> >only need to move route6d to /sbin. I can't think of a reason you
> would need
> >multicast routing before the whole system was up. I think we can live
> with and
> >additional 42k on /.
>
>
> Lest we forget, / is statically linked. that 42k binary turns into a 450k
> binary in /sbin.
The / solution is wrong. For instance:
[root@piratinga root]# ls -l /usr/local/sbin/ospfd
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 471392 Dec 1 00:58 /usr/local/sbin/ospfd*
[root@piratinga root]# ls -l /usr/local/sbin/bgpd
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 691952 Dec 1 00:58 /usr/local/sbin/bgpd*
And these are dynamically linked.
Not to mention moving them to / would break the /usr/local paradigm.
And all this because... people don't want to break fs mounting in local
and remote?
I saw break it, and have routing run after local. If your /usr is
remote, then either you'll copy routed (or whatever you use) to a local
disk, or you won't be using it.
People, let's face it. There *ARE* things you want to be run *after*
local fs mount and *before* remote fs mount. And we are hurting
ourselves in a few places just because we haven't admitted to it.
btw, someone mentioned a freebsd-rc list, but I found no such list.
Mispelling? Not freebsd.org list? Delusions?
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