From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 15 05:26:22 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D0424E8BB for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 05:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48KJd92sfgz3JF2 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 05:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=9JLyEmvrRiiS1V2iIZWJ7BcSrBcwMIksS6fNWyHueq4=; b=NzRWYKz0OMglR3+uU884BE0fdq mjCK/YsYvp7JEcIKi2bM9DcqloVlxGFSh7qOR7eLFq1qKKAQD5S8gqAyhQWQPtiyfczs47vZY+Muz OzRgsX3qKnwoh1yLvbiLqpYHzZEIr2/D0Hb7IeXY9tdeqI3Ff2ROVxbl+4Xgl/1l5BjQ=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1j2py8-0000Uo-4Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 12:26:20 +0700 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 12:26:20 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200215052620.GA1482@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214141600.GA82559@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48KJd92sfgz3JF2 X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=NzRWYKz0; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.33)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.78), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 05:26:22 -0000 --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 14:16, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 12:16, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > > > Not to start a flame war. A purely technical question: what > > > > technological advantages does the modern FreeBSD have over modern L= inux? > > > > > > Sorry, but I find this sort of a chalk vs cheese kind of comparison. > > > > Of course not. When deciding what to use in the next project, you have > > to advocate your choice in front of your superiors and colleagues, and > > your presentation should be well backed up with technical arguments. >=20 > I didn't really (and still don't) know the circumstances of your work > environment. Failing that, this is really a chalk vs cheese scenario. > I find both FreeBSD and Linux technically valid solutions (and I throw > NetBSD into the mix). One has to be pragmatic and evaluate solutions > against problems first. Advocating an OS over another one without > taking care of circumstances doesn't make good advocacy. Fine, let's apply your approach, it could yield interesting results. Can we find 3-4 real world scenarios where FreeBSD cannot be replaced by Linux without important negative technical and business consequences of said replacement? Other than a case of unacceptability of the GNU license for some legal reason, I cannot imagine such a scenario. Unfortunatly, I've seen lots of reverse cases where Linux cannot be replaced by FreeBSD. Docker and friends come to mind first. >=20 > (I'm not having a go at you. I'm just talking out of my experience.) Please keep on talking :-) --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJeR4D8AAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0UkIH/3hK/jPL77f+oOSrA9qchIqx RsGVPPp9a9EVs1hBkCGaXyrGfewz+0P9osobXHb+rQrsH7rLwLmJjATMm7Q0dXbA gaws2WP4FgpAX9ewjXniOTgmQFSa/io/G/wxNmD2rB46QphmV6RRObbSkPpmwJe6 PwoWvQHK1Mbh6Drx2bD7XockjdyYCBN46jUgFfqHBSY/6T2szoNO50jfHG6EyLAY pf4z1DeyEKTbxtlvbp9qtVeMmZb1QEtoamyA2vMVkh/a6wV5JpnZiDVYmJfZOR5K m0voAqSZSrOlUQ5oiwACfsK8pmcOc9vjtPL7+nqO7dqVAfzAeUK/dXDjV1By7as= =HtKn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK--