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To: Ian Lepore Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0535A858EA X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=VoHDwH3W; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of balangabar@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::52c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=balangabar@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.52 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.76)[-0.763,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-2.75)[ip: (-9.10), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.38), asn: 15169(-2.21), country: US(-0.06)]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 23:35:19 -0000 To be honest, I would try installing 8.2 if I could find instructions for building it... Would I need to install 8,2 on my PC to build 8.2 for FreeBSD/ARM? On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:07 AM Ian Lepore wrote: > You say "All I want is updated instructions to build". Then you point > out you managed to get a build done, and what you really want is > support for a kernel panic. > > I'll reiterate: there is no support available anymore for these > systems. The only reason the code still exists in freebsd is because > some users reported they were still having some limited success using > kirkwood-based systems (that was a year or two ago). Your report of > mysterious panics is pretty much in line with what you'd expect for > code that is no longer being maintained. > > It's a sad thing. I still use dreamplug systems myself, I have to for > $work. But we run freebsd 8.2 on them, because that's the last version > that I know was really stable. Everything later than that I've tried > (even 8.4) fails in a variety of mysterious ways from panics to data > corruption to failure of fsck to preen disks after a crash. > > -- Ian > > On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 09:10 +0100, Balanga Bar wrote: > > All I'm really looking for is some update for a number of web pages > > including https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSDMarvell > > which show how to build FreeBSD for the platform. The build process > > seems > > to have changed somewhat over the last few years and instructions do > > not > > mention which version of FreeBSD is being used. > > > > Since I already have a couple of GoFlex Home units I would like to > > try and > > get FreeBSD installed on them. It seems that people managed to get > > FreeBSD > > working on these as long ago as seven years ago, so I'm only trying > > to > > recreate something that has already been done, but getting a working > > build > > installed is proving somewhat problematic. > > > > The most frustrating things is that when I manage to create a build > > which > > will boot, there is generally a kernel panic soon after, and the > > system > > will not subsequently boot and I don't know how to identify why this > > occurred. > > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 4:12 PM Ian Lepore wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 06:23 +0000, Balanga Bar wrote: > > > > Is anyone using any Marvell Kirkwood devices? > > > > > > > > I'm trying to build a reliable system, but am struggling to make > > > > it > > > > work. > > > > Could do with some help on the correct way of building it. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > To be honest, the Kirkwood stuff is all but completely unsupported > > > at > > > this point. A few people over the past few years have reported > > > some > > > success with it. My own experience is that no armv4 or v5 > > > platforms > > > have really worked reliably for many years. When it does work for > > > people, they're just lucky that they're not running into any of the > > > bugs that are known to exist in the old arm support. > > > > > > Basically the problem is resources: there is nobody both willing > > > and > > > able to support the old armv5 stuff anymore. The company I work > > > for > > > used to put their resources into supporting old arm chips, but > > > we've > > > moved on to armv7 stuff for the current products, so I don't get to > > > spend $work hours on armv5 support anymore. > > > > > > So all in all, you're really better off with some newer armv7 or v8 > > > (64-bit) hardware. It's cheaper and more powerful, but you do miss > > > out > > > on one thing that Kirkwood supported: dual GigE ports, which just > > > don't > > > seem to exist in the modern arm world. > > > > > > -- Ian > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > " > >