Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 05:44:17 -0500 From: Sean Kelly <smkelly@zombie.org> To: Sung Nae Cho <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market! Message-ID: <20010725054417.A76920@edgemaster.zombie.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107241828050.18993-100000@quasar.phys.vt.edu> References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107241828050.18993-100000@quasar.phys.vt.edu>
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--PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 06:40:40PM -0400, Sung Nae Cho wrote: > Hi, Hello, > This is regarding that recent performance issue (Linux, Windows, FreeBSD, > Solaris). I don't care what you (people who are so stuck up with > stability) think, I use FreeBSD as a desktop and I need performance! I So you'd rather have performance over stability? It's okay if your machine randomly reboots or eats files as long as you can load your browser in 2 seconds? > have "async" otpion turned on in my /etc/fstab, I'm glad the FreeBSD by > default enables the write cache for my hard disks. Come on, wake up! Ahem. Async + write cache + random plug pulling =3D=3D recipe for a totally screwed filesystem. How often do you want to have to reinstall your entire OS and restore all your files from tape or CD? > FreeBSD is no longer for some dorky server administrator who does nothing > but chewing on snickers bar sitting in corner of some room full of racks > and HDD's. And, I bet most people use FreeBSD for desktop use, not as > server use! I've shut down the computer by plugging the power plug out > just because I was upset or not in the moeed and all it cost me was some > extra time booting due to file system check. I've never had any of my > files, emails or anything like that being lost due to cold shutting my > computer. I'm sick of this server administrators always crying for First of all, the Snickers are not in the same room as the HDDs and racks. Secondly, I also use FreeBSD as both a desktop and server. It works beautifully doing both. And I don't buy your claim that you have no file loss if you truely use write caching *AND* async filesystems. Try looking in some /lost+found/ directories. > stability. If FreeBSD won't take use of all the capabilities offered in > todays hard drives, I won't be using it! I'll switch right over to Linux. You're not supposed to shutdown Linux by pulling it's plug either. Hello, welcome to the world of computers. No OS should be shutdown that way. > Come on, desktop is the king and FreeBSD should focus itself evolving in > desktop market. If you gonna whine about stability, go back to FreeBSD > 2.x, 3.x. For me, FreeBSD 4.x, 5.x should be more desktop oriented, and > desktops need performance!!!!! I'll tell you a little secret. If you don't like what FreeBSD is, you are able to make your own BSD. Just like there is a NetBSD, OpenBSD, and so forth you can create a DesktopBSD (which I will call UnstableBSD). --=20 Sean Kelly | PGP KeyID: 77042C7B smkelly@zombie.org | http://www.zombie.org For PGP key, send e-mail with subject "send pgp key" --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7XqMB2aukpHcELHsRAr2BAJ460BzkdZ3I9yJ8lfIwEpcZw4fs4QCfYVKA s5CI5KOv0UnsNivbSHzfM3o= =fwzV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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