From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 10:57:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F1C37B401; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BF543F85; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:57:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4FHv9UO010171; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:57:09 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h4FHv8bS010170; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:57:08 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:57:08 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Robert Watson Message-ID: <20030515175708.GB19626@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20030515152805.GA63529@regency.nsu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8GpibOaaTibBMecb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: Alexey Dokuchaev cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: David O'Brien cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/alpha drivers.conf X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:57:13 -0000 --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:46:51AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: >=20 > I don't know what the current status of floppy installs is with ia64, and > what vendor plans are for ia64. Nothing would preclude re-supporting > floppies in the future on these platforms if it became desirable -- the > floppy disk device drivers aren't going away or anything, of course. But > by not supporting them in the short term, we save a lot of time commitment > by the RE team to just making drivers fit on floppies in order to get > intermediate snapshots out the door. As the number of floppies also > increases, we start having to deal with usability issues -- do we want to > force every user to put in every floppy? If not, we need a way to > determine what floppies they put in, but that's complicated in that you > have to put in the floppy to load the device driver to know if you need > the device driver... i386 may inevitably require a long parade of > floppies, but there's no need to burden the newer platforms with that > until it proves highly desirable to do so. Or to put it another way: if > you spent $7k on an ia64 server, the chances are you have a CD burner.=20 Taking a look at HP's website, there's a space you could stick a floppy in the bezel on the larger one, but they aren't even an option on the configuration. I was a bit shocked to discover that you could get a 900MHz system for less then $3500. Slightly tangentialy but related, I would suggest that AFTER 5.1 IS RELEASED, it would be useful to look at building bootonly CDs like those on snapshots.jp.freebsd.org as part of the release process. That wouldn't do anything for the "I don't want to waste a CD" crowd, but it would help for those who just want to do an FTP install instead of sucking down a giant ISO. It also shouldn't cause the constaint drain on RE resources because it's not really space constrained. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+w9TzXY6L6fI4GtQRAlSuAJ4q1ydtwNYDWXNgnm2J+K2Bov0hMwCgqGWp g1P5VZhiep0r/CRWqmO6G/4= =94S5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8GpibOaaTibBMecb--