From owner-freebsd-xen@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 5 20:51:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xen@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16B98DAA for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 20:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from o3.shared.sendgrid.net (o3.shared.sendgrid.net [208.117.48.85]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93A302CB9 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 20:51:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sendgrid.info; h=from:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpapi; bh=1eSPP0FuloPLv/aq8wSaz0VqVZU=; b=TkYctBu9Xa90IABrmS ehnWMIcqmJdJS6CV/39xMzzjYJvb9mC6xVusQ5hwkWBw02yOoXNcwGz27PuZN+AM M/4ztAkGTb8y5zhdQv41T5gUAIiFJOpdULXjgObB6xkaxS3/nr5dvdg43X+ojhNj fIot/FLyBkSh1sPZMk0Z09Qgo= Received: by mf173.sendgrid.net with SMTP id mf173.35834.53B8655816 2014-07-05 20:51:36.542413524 +0000 UTC Received: from mail.tarsnap.com (unknown [10.100.60.108]) by ismtpd-024.iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 147084be0ff.922.83fcc1 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 20:51:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 10775 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2014 20:51:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clamshell.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by ec2-107-20-205-189.compute-1.amazonaws.com with ESMTP; 5 Jul 2014 20:51:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 2421 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2014 20:50:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clamshell.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by clamshell.daemonology.net with SMTP; 5 Jul 2014 20:50:02 -0000 Message-ID: <53B864FA.8040805@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:50:02 -0700 From: Colin Percival User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-xen@freebsd.org" Subject: RFC: Dropping "defenestrated" EC2 image builds X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SG-EID: RUbAm5H8PjswBj/QH+sYVehaJogg3iBnZcyVi1bw/IxA9an/4VsXBYC+rZVi/cbyUhAH6XaQeuTkKppuiqgJDbdJmEEXblTxd4eDqXmYWUA+uYG15Fljj6u3REBbWQ8bFO6essawsCzLDYTgV3Suw8cjlSgUNiUBt71dq10bDEQ= X-BeenThere: freebsd-xen@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of the freebsd port to xen - implementation and usage List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 20:51:45 -0000 Hi FreeBSD/Xen people, Now that Amazon has released the T2 family of instances, it is possible to run FreeBSD on all five types of instances -- "general purpose", "high RAM", "high CPU", "high I/O", and "low cost" -- without having it pretend to be Windows. As a result, I'm considering no longer building "defenestrated" EC2 images; this would simplify my image-building code significantly, and avoid situations where users accidentally use the defenestrated images and end up paying for a Windows license they don't need. The downside is that it would not be possible to launch future FreeBSD releases onto older EC2 instance types. For "on-demand" usage, this shouldn't be a problem -- the older instances are in all ways inferior to the newer instances -- but if someone has paid Reserved Instance then they might want to be able to use FreeBSD on it. (Launching an older AMI and upgrading would still work, of course.) Thoughts? -- Colin Percival Security Officer Emeritus, FreeBSD | The power to serve Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid