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[174.109.231.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i40sm17597528qte.67.2020.06.16.12.12.08 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.1.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49md9h1fqCz4SPH for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:12:00 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd Message-ID: <20200616151200.0000663a@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <20200616142043.7d599458.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616144141.6203d978e9bd43418b17dcbc@sohara.org> <20200616170906.9c0bb6c7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616175118.2d536f55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616123659.000025a6@seibercom.net> <20200616130710.00002909@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/L5iaeKuqK5VN1Wq9e6Dv3Kc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49md9m2RvRz4Yb8 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=NNWMnuB+; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::843 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.74 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.231.236:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.941]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.986]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.27)[0.267]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::843:from]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 19:12:13 -0000 --Sig_/L5iaeKuqK5VN1Wq9e6Dv3Kc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:14:51 -0400, Aryeh Friedman commented: >On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:07 PM Jerry wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:44:12 -0400, Aryeh Friedman commented: =20 >> >On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jerry wrote: >> > =20 >> >> On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:51:18 +0200, Polytropon commented: =20 >> >> >And instead of employing good programmers, they employ designers >> >> >so at least the ad-filled emails look good, even if it doesn't >> >> >help anyone. :-) =20 >> >> >> >> You obviously know very little about the retail market. In sales, >> >> perceived quality is often in a direct relationship to the outward >> >> appearance of an item. >> >> =20 >> > >> >FreeBSD is not a retail OS!.... in short for many reasons f**k >> >retail computing... like I said dead users don't give a flying f >> >how good something looks if it kills them! (Just ask anyone who >> >started smoking because of how sexy the ad models were before >> >tobacco ads were outlawed.).... in sort FreeBSD is a mission >> >critical OS meant for professional use (if you use for desktop use >> >like I do then it is purely accidental to its primary purpose). =20 >> >> You reply is totally out of context to the my response to Poly. >> Neither Poly nor I referenced FreeBSD in the post. The response was >> directed at advertisers and the means they use to convey an idea to >> the public. Your problem is that you are looking for problems where >> none exist, aka "Tilting at windmills". >> =20 > >Then mark your reply as being off topic because in context it was >clearly reference to email etiquette on FreeBSD (that is the subject >of the thread after all). It seems you and Chris are doing >everything possible to confuse the hell out of the entire thread and >then one someone *appears* to reply out of context you use that as >some kind of proof of your argument. That is just dirty tactics. Exactly what is the correlation between email formats and the whether or not FreeBSD is a retail (for profit) entity? --=20 Jerry --Sig_/L5iaeKuqK5VN1Wq9e6Dv3Kc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl7pGYAACgkQOHMGOIfe xWTx1AgAsXv7ql5npjoojsIbXfQ/OQ827Kj+OexfkjNenrrXg5KSvQ/ecY6LWbg4 8xQvZjhHwokZAY8yE3eLXkR81hGLIzkXjSPjsCyT8+l3tcRZWWuGnLq0aVbl/rvv u4UqCu/eJwm2FQkm4LcQVLCI3zj1MS0oHYvtwAzxR/NsAI0eeMRuoqADM1i574N9 7okYs4edjRsdmHHVxcEBKi4u/mpS4kZpiw1hBe+MRLTaOnFbNeTfipUQPrMqEa3p 9/XKyIUI+I9rZS3YLui6mQxFXK7aXivA4Qi+ZjLo4Lr/KJPeQB7iiaZ/vtCTn2wR HtEXxEpU0DMpvq9kOD5LxWM40K2Cfw== =nF4S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/L5iaeKuqK5VN1Wq9e6Dv3Kc--