Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:00:09 -0500 From: Goblin <h0b_g0blin@yahoo.com> To: Glen Overby <overby@rrnet.com> Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFS Message-ID: <20000929120009.A5990@uswest.net> In-Reply-To: <200009291625.LAA41951@zhadum.americas.sgi.com>; from overby@rrnet.com on Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 11:25:15AM -0500 References: <200009291625.LAA41951@zhadum.americas.sgi.com>
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Why can't there be a vmount style port? BTW, does vmount still exist?
(Sorry, it's been a while since I've been on FBSD due to alien
hardware.)
A userland vmount type port wouldn't have quite the performance, but it
would be cool.
On 09/29, Glen Overby rearranged the electrons to read:
>=20
> [ I read this list via a mail-to-news gateway so I might be a bit
> behind on discussions ]
>=20
> tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert) flamed:
> > I have talked to SGI's chief scientist about the license,
>=20
> SGI is afraid of competitors (Sun, HP, etc) porting XFS to their own
> proprietary OS. In a sick sort of way, the GPL protects SGI from
> that. You won't see a non-GPL XFS coming from SGI. Sorry.
>=20
> > anything at all. He also didn't seem to get that any
> > improvements coming from the community would not be
> > allowed to be integrated back into IRIX, unless all of
>=20
> I'm disappointed to see you take the opinions & attitudes of one chief
> as being representative of everyone here.
>=20
> But many of us do "get it". One of the plans is/was to request
> copyright assignment for contributions that we want to move back to
> Irix. I haven't heard of that happening, but I do believe that the
> (few) external contributions were incorporated into the Linux XFS
> source tree.
>=20
> This works because Irix XFS and Linux XFS are completely separate
> source trees. I've seen what they did to XFS to work around the
> things that Linux didn't have and to do big endian / little endian
> translation. I'm hoping those never make it back into Irix.
>=20
> There's no reason you couldn't have a small FFS root filesystem, load
> XFS as a kernel module from that filesystem and use XFS for your big
> filesystems. BTW, isn't FreeBSD all loadable kernel modules now? If
> so, maybe it could be loaded at boot time.
>=20
> No, I won't pay for the defense lawyers when FSF sues :-)
>=20
> > I rather think they don't believe that they will get
> > improvements that they care about from the community;
> > either this is hubris ("we're professionals, not hackers!"),
> > a loss leader, or it's just a way to get into the press.
>=20
> While the chief you talked to may have not quite understood how to
> work with others, that doesn't reflect the attitudes others working on
> Linux XFS.
>=20
> As for SGI's future, XFS is "free" (as free as any GPLed code gets)
Your eyes are weary from staring at the CRT. You feel sleepy. Notice how
restful it is to watch the cursor blink. Close your eyes. The opinions
stated above are yours. You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise.
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