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Date:      Mon, 21 Jul 2014 01:33:42 +0200
From:      Tijl Coosemans <tijl@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, kwm@FreeBSD.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r362304 - head/x11-toolkits/pango
Message-ID:  <20140721013342.6c17ecdc@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org>
In-Reply-To: <53CBF2D7.4070005@marino.st>
References:  <201407200815.s6K8FG8b003096@svn.freebsd.org> <20140720132259.156d687e@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <53CBA770.2010409@marino.st> <20140720113124.GD26778@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20140720165256.1f4d5d07@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <53CBF2D7.4070005@marino.st>

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On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:48:23 +0200 John Marino wrote:
> On 7/20/2014 16:52, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:31:24 +0200 Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 01:26:40PM +0200, John Marino wrote:
>>>> On 7/20/2014 13:22, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 08:15:16 +0000 (UTC) John Marino wrote:
>>>>>> Author: marino
>>>>>> Date: Sun Jul 20 08:15:16 2014
>>>>>> New Revision: 362304
>>>>>> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/362304
>>>>>> QAT: https://qat.redports.org/buildarchive/r362304/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>   x11-toolkits/pango: require explicit linking
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>   This new configure argument will list all required libraries in the
>>>>>>   generated pkgconf files.  Before any library indirectly pulled in, such
>>>>>>   as libm, was not listed.
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>   This fixes numerous regression in dports and it's more correct anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, this is wrong.  Each port should link to the libraries it needs on
>>>>> its own.  No port should rely on other ports to pull in libraries for
>>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Then I guess we really don't need pkgconfig .pc files at all then?
>>>> (This is the point of .pc files, it tells how to link.  libm is directly
>>>> used by pango)
>>>>
>>>> so no, it is not wrong.  The generated pc file was wrong, now it's not.
>>>> This is why the configuration argument exists.
>> 
>> A .pc file normally has 1 library in the Libs field (the library the .pc
>> file is created for) and 0 items in the Requires field.  Dependencies go
>> in the Libs.private or Requires.private fields.  The only reason to add
>> dependencies to Libs or Requires is if the headers of the library expose
>> the API of those dependencies (e.g. the library headers define macros or
>> inline functions that expand to calls to functions in a dependency (such
>> as Gtk macros that expand to Glib function calls)).
>> 
>> The pango headers don't even include math.h or complex.h so they cannot
>> expose its API.  The generated .pc file was correct, now it is wrong.
>> 
>> The reason the configure argument exists is probably because this is an
>> old .pc file from before the .private fields existed.
> 
> Again, linking libpango without -libm is an error when explicit linking
> is required (as has been the default on binutils for the last 3
> versions).  The previous pc did not consider -lm, so it's wrong.

No and no.

> The proof is in the pudding.  When enabling the explicit linking
> configure option, it fixed all the explict linking errors seen by ports
> depending on pango.

Show me such a port.

> The is not the only port that sets the explicit-depends configure option
> either.

Yes I know.  It must all be removed.  The worst case is the gtk20 port
which forces everything that uses gtk20 to link with many Xorg libraries
for no reason.

> What is the concern here?

The concern is overlinking.  You are forcing everything that uses pango
to link with libm just to fix a few ports that require libm but forget
to link with it explicitly.  You are also forcing everything that uses
pangocairo to link with libfreetype and libfontconfig now.



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