Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:06:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" <ean@hedron.org> To: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java Message-ID: <2569.216.220.59.169.1105114005.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <41DE4504.5040300@ebs.gr> References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0501071006420.16858-100000@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <41DE4504.5040300@ebs.gr>
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> Achilleus Mantzios wrote: >> First off, Good Year to anyone. >> >> I'd like to share my thoughts on the FreeBSD binary java distribution >> and the FreeBSD Foundation issue. >> >> I pretty much acklowledge the efforts of the FBSDF, as well as >> that the diablo jdk13 is the only one achievement of the FBSDF, at least >> as it presented >> in their site. Also ,the funding of Alexey's work was essential >> in the viability of the jdk14 port. >> >> However, as another person said, freebsd users >> only use the port and not the binary. >> And taking into account the many areas of need in the rest of >> the system in its current status (5-STABLE, CURRENT), >> i think it would make sense to save the money that was supposed >> to go to SUN, for funding development of other areas in the system. >> >> Most users are quite happy with jdk14 i suppose. > > Although I am one of those users happily using the jdk14 port, I can't > say that I find the situation satisfying. When I am trying to pitch a > Java solution on FreeBSD to a customer I have to ask them to have the > jdk preinstalled for me, since I can't legally redistribute it. Clients > who don't have an existing FreeBSD installation or don't care about the > solution's underlying OS (which is why they usually pick Java in the > first place), wonder why on earth they should not go with Linux instead. > > For developer's like myself the port is fine. For managers (either > selling or bying products) it is a nightmare. Personally, I consider > Alexey's financial support and the binary distribution license as the > most important thing that the FreeBSD Foundation has ever done for the > future of the community. I have to agree with Achilleus on all his points. The company I work for was making a similar decision a couple of years ago and not having a binary distribution of Java took FreeBSD right out of the running. Management takes the stance that if they can't get a binary for production use then the product is not sufficiently supported. So, I run SUN systems at work now.
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