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Date:      Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:00:25 +0100
From:      John Morgan Salomon <john@zog.net>
To:        Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: NFSv2 Wrong FS Size
Message-ID:  <023C6CB0-7230-46F6-BC19-F87AE6ABD916@zog.net>
In-Reply-To: <20090203215326.GN75802@dan.emsphone.com>
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I was starting to suspect that it might be something along these  
lines.  NFSv3 hasn't been possible so far because the Terastation  
hacked firmware on this particular platform (TS Pro v1) doesn't seem  
to play nice with kernel-level nfs (userland nfs only has packages for  
v2, and I've been too intimidated to approach the idea of rolling my  
own so far.)

This explains a lot -- I thought maybe it might be the result of me  
running normal 32-bit i386 release on a 64-bit CPU.  I will see if I  
can get NFS3 working.

(I guess MacOS X/Mach/BSDI treat the size value as unsigned...)

-John

On 3 Feb 2009, at 22:53, Dan Nelson wrote:

>
> In the last episode (Feb 03), John Morgan Salomon said:
>> On 3 Feb 2009, at 19:21, John Morgan Salomon wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I'm facing an odd problem with an NFSv2 mount.  I'm using userland
>>> nfsd from a Buffalo TeraStation Pro v1 NAS, running PPC Linux  
>>> 2.4.20.
>>>
>>> root@LEVIATHAN:~# uname -a
>>> Linux LEVIATHAN 2.4.20_mvl31-ppc_terastation #3 Tue Jul 18  
>>> 09:29:11 JST 2006 ppc GNU/Linux
>>>
>>> I am sharing the following filesystem:
>>>
>>> root@LEVIATHAN:~# df -k
>>> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
>>> <local filesystems>
>>> /dev/md1             1755708928 979032844 776676084  56% /mnt/array1
>>>
>>> Mounting this on a FreeBSD 7.1 client:
>>>
>>> behemoth# mount /data
>>> behemoth# df -k
>>> Filesystem                    1024-blocks        Used     Avail
>>> Capacity  Mounted on
>>> <local filesystems>
>>> 192.168.2.11:/mnt/array1/data  -391774720 -1168450804 776676084
>>
>> I did more digging and found this:
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/index.html
>>
>> "An audit is needed to make sure that all reported fields are 64-bit
>> clean. There are reports with certain fields being incorrect or
>> negative with NFS volumes, which could either be an NFS or df  
>> problem."
>>
>> Not sure where to go now, as the last entry in that project is dated
>> 2005 -- again, any tips welcome.
>
> The real problem is that NFSv2 only provides a 32-bit field for  
> filesystem
> size, and multiplies that by the reported blocksize.  Most NFS  
> servers claim
> 512-byte blocks no matter what the underlying filessytem has, so in  
> your
> case that would result in the filesystem size being reported as
> 1755708928*1024/512 = 3511417856 blocks.  This number is larger than  
> 2^31,
> which techinically isn't a problem because the NFSv2 spec says that  
> the
> filesystem size is unsigned.  FreeBSD treats it as signed, though,  
> so it can
> display "negative" free space when root starts using its 8% reserve,  
> so your
> unsigned 3511417856 gets printed as a signed -783549440, which messes
> everything up.
>
> NFSv3 uses 64-bit fields for those size values, so just mount with  
> NFSv3
> (which actually is the default on FreeBSD; maybe you have it  
> disabled on
> your TeraStation for some reason), and you should get correct  
> filesystem
> stats, as well as better performance and the ability to work with  
> files over
> 2gb.
>
> Alternatively, you could rebuild "df" to print its numbers as unsigned
> instead of signed.  Just watch out if your local filesystems start  
> eating
> into their 8% reserve, since they'll start reporting huge values.
>
> -- 
> 	Dan Nelson
> 	dnelson@allantgroup.com
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