From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Mar 10 7:57:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3636837B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:57:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zhaoc@cloud9.net) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7430A28E28 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by earl-grey.cloud9.net (Postfix, from userid 11022) id 0CA881F1B; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:56:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:56:56 -0500 From: Chen Zhao To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_fxp - the real point Message-ID: <20010310105656.A70989@earl-grey.cloud9.net> References: <20010310013331.A57865@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <200103101249.f2ACnCh16057@mobile.wemm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200103101249.f2ACnCh16057@mobile.wemm.org>; from peter@netplex.com.au on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 04:49:12AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG \- Peter Wemm stated on /- [Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 04:49:12AM -0800]: > I have the NDA'ed docs for the Intel gig and fxp cards. After Intel's > spectacular efforts to bury Johnathan Lemon's driver for their gig card > (that outperformed the Intel Linux driver by something like a factor of 5), > I have lost all respect for Intel's networking division. Sorry to hear that. The last thing I can find on the Intel gig stuff was dated at the end of 1999, where Johnathan Lemon wasn't sure if he could release his version, and Matt Jacob had a version hacked from the released Linux drivers. I take it Intel didn't give the hoped for permission. > As long as Intel are being this stupid, Intel hardware is never going to be > well supported. The fxp driver is starting to slip behind because Intel > wont give DG updated fxp docs without him signing an NDA that prevents him > from releasing the updated driver. That part I get, hence the question of what's the next best card/driver. I was also (coincidentally) thinking of the Intel ads which feature Yahoo! ads using servers with their processors. I was wondering if perhaps someone technical at Yahoo might have some clout with Intel. Yes, I realize that's pretty naive. :) \_____End_of_Statement_____/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message