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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 06:44:31 -0400
From: Ray Kohler <rkohler1@cox.rr.com>
To: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
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Subject: Re: Looks like (some) networking is broken
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:12:59 -0700
Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 09:12:25PM -0700, Ray Kohler wrote:
> > If a kernel change is that drastic then there ought to be a
message in 
> > UPDATING. It shouldn't take an 8-hour process to (say) get a
small 
> > bugfix in place. (And please do not just quote UPDATING to me,
I've read it.)
> > I don't want to sound like a troll or flamer but this has never
been a hard 
> > requirement before and I don't see why it is now.
> 
> Wrong.
> 
> It's _always_ been the case that you'll have problems if you don't
> keep your userland in sync with your kernel.  That's why all of
the
> documentation in the handbook about upgrading your system tells
you to
> do both.

Two things:
A) I will freely admit that disregarding the directions and then
complaining when it doesn't work is stupid; I wish to apologize for
bugging you and for making the list read this (especially now with
so much noise here for some reason; maybe it's that CIA mind control
satellite again ;) )
B) I've rebuilt "the right way" and everything works fine now.

-- 
Ray

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