From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 15 16:54:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEA4DBD; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B038DB; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tom.home (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s9FGsA2g068910 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Oct 2014 19:54:10 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 kib.kiev.ua s9FGsA2g068910 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s9FGsAtw068909; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 19:54:10 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 19:54:09 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Glen Barber Subject: Re: No network interfaces with 10.1-RC2 kernel and 9.2 userland Message-ID: <20141015165409.GZ2153@kib.kiev.ua> References: <20141013165244.GA61249@hub.FreeBSD.org> <543E993B.5050406@vangyzen.net> <20141015163619.GR36695@hub.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20141015163619.GR36695@hub.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on tom.home Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, Eric van Gyzen , re@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:54:15 -0000 On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 04:36:19PM +0000, Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:56:43AM -0400, Eric van Gyzen wrote: > > I used freebsd-update to update a 9.2-RELEASE-p10 i386 system to > > 10.1-RC2. After installing the kernel and rebooting, still using the > > 9.2 userland, ifconfig showed no interfaces. Is this expected? Do I > > need to bounce through 9.3 or 10.0 first? > > > > What interfaces should be there? > > Please provide the contents of /var/run/dmesg.boot. The interfaces used to manage networking (i.e. the kernel calls utilized by ifconfig(8), route(8) and others) are not kept stable between stable branches. Usually, the compatibility is broken. Simply put, you cannot use configuration utilities from stable/9 on stable/10 kernel. This is expected. You did not followed the instruction in UPDATING.