From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 24 7:58:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A31B37B422; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e7OEfko23502; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:41:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:41:45 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Francisco Reyes Cc: Nik Clayton , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons Message-ID: <20000824154145.A8893@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000824101352.A48334@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <200008241203.IAA32744@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200008241203.IAA32744@sanson.reyes.somos.net>; from fran@reyes.somos.net on Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 08:11:25AM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 08:11:25AM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:13:52 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > >> What was the reason for these daemons been set to not start? > > > >Now, if you have an empty /etc/rc.conf then (in theory) no network services > >are running. This also means that if you want to find out what services are > >started at boot time you only have to look in /etc/rc.conf, rather than > >having to look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf as well. > > Then shouldn't we add the current programs which get started to > /etc/rc.conf? If you install using sysinstall then they are. Have you actually read the diffs and commit messages? If you're upgrading to -current using the source code then they're not. But that's fine, because if you're running -current then you're reading the -current mailing list, and you'll have seen the HEADS UP message that was posted about this. If you're running -stable then it's a non-issue, as these changes haven't been merged. > I know this is currently in "current", but won't this eventually > make it to stable? Maybe. I would have thought that's unlikely though. However, even if it is, there'll be a HEADS UP posted to this mailing list, so you'll be aware that it's an issue. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message