From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 1 12:00:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11372D3CE0 for ; Fri, 1 May 2020 12:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49D9nH6VqVz4RYS for ; Fri, 1 May 2020 12:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1588334451; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=jkDB5VBFwL7N4fcJmehI0Dv1e9U=; b=r8P+6miCsQd7Xrei249Z1QMTnUtbfoJEu3PFbT7GyQ/UaoYUJovoGQetKyNU8G/w 9ze1WXom06tb8QL9jJaw6lh8WRiKikV6kaF2kZ25xDAHDSuKsFNTUm6lUYrekT+L 58EnaHuIxseask8suAhVLTsyqUIKb5ugFg5/E7DSNc9OF5hmXaaKbj4+aNSlI/Fo /61qtI2e1/ZLdXxKiU/qdpvIseG0bzmStwZHb0B30bDkyRO+KNAMCBc2VB8UkGZw TTkgqJneqz+65aZgWFz2vA5aQy7/zpjado3YKgn7EtuhvJo2kgCF82oxQzy2RIZl np4wFSQrFcNj2kqCC5YO4w==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=J+PUEzvS c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=sTwFKg_x9MkA:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=oX08kPI8AAAA:8 a=3BLhXSb9Pm1vO58cCLEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Z54TprMnf_4A:10 a=HoS0eNqkKlFy34tK5QRU:22 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:20291] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id E2/5F-42436-37F0CAE5; Fri, 01 May 2020 08:00:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <24236.3954.621377.989334@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 08:00:50 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating from 11.3-stable to 12.1-stable? In-Reply-To: <20200501095121.cb2d6b8084a697ccb50d4d0d@sohara.org> References: <202004301346.03UDkr12006318@sdf.org> <20200430145227.GD1510@rancor.immure.com> <202005010842.0418g6is012936@sdf.org> <20200501095121.cb2d6b8084a697ccb50d4d0d@sohara.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.3 (amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49D9nH6VqVz4RYS X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rcn.com header.s=20180516 header.b=r8P+6miC; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rcn.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of roberthuff@rcn.com designates 69.168.97.78 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=roberthuff@rcn.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.65 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[78.97.168.69.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:69.168.97.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-1.55)[ip: (-9.06), ipnet: 69.168.97.0/24(0.65), asn: 36271(0.72), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[rcn.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.97.168.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:69.168.97.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 12:00:53 -0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith writes: > Scott Bennett wrote: > > > You may not get bitten often, but the probability is that you will > > eventually be chewed on badly if you do things in an unsafe manner long > > enough. > > The evolution of UPDATING is partly driven by people getting > bitten and figuring out how not to. Once upon a time a full source upgrade > was: > > make world > reboot & pray. > > We've come a long way since then. Amen, and hallelujah! Thankfully, Robert "Good Old Days my ass" Huff