From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 15:39:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39174106564A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C02D8FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o58FdQfm003179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:39:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0E642D.5040907@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:39:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> <20100607164035.GC2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100608144342.GA1851@holstein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: <20100608144342.GA1851@holstein.holy.cow> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:39:33 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2010 15:43:42, parv@pair.com wrote: > Am I the only one who has (force) installed open office from package > without java dependency and has yet to see a problem with MS Word & > simple Excel files? > > It took about 15 "seconds" of manual count to see an empty window > after typing "openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo". Hardware is ... > > Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80GHz (1795.52-MHz 686-class CPU) > ... > avail memory = 3119153152 (2974 MB) > ... > ad4: 305245MB at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s > (5400 rpm) I wonder about that. I'm sure there are quite a few pkgs where some of the registered dependencies are really optional, and the same pkg would work either with or without them. I know that databases/phpMyAdmin, which I maintain is like that. I did spend some time reading up on 'pkg_add -M' and 'pkg_add -S' -- in theory it should be possible to use pkg_add -M to extract the pkg contents, feed that into the stdin of a script, which pops up a dialogue allowing you to make those choices, edits the pkg on the way past and then feeds it to 'pkg_add -S' for final installation. Can't see how to force something like that to happen from a normal invocation of pkg_add(1) though. Would be a nice addition -- you could also emulate NOPORTDOCS and NOPORTEXAMPLES, except entirely with pkgs that way. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwOZC0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxSRQCfV1yFrs2zzeI2RRC6qg4EJdzT BYAAnRbLFM6VWVb6dhY4G6NAWAvoFn2G =Oms2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----