From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Oct 19 13:29:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BD937B4C5 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.253.89.30]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20001019202940.JQIH19709.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:29:40 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9JKT5801717; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:29:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:28:59 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Adrian Wontroba Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Traditional UN*X conventions (Or: Why not to login as root?) Message-ID: <20001019212859.B255@parish> References: <20001018074155.B13296@titus.stade.co.uk> <20001018182110.J3582@hand.dotat.at> <20001019022013.A91370@titus.stade.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001019022013.A91370@titus.stade.co.uk>; from aw1@stade.co.uk on Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 02:20:13AM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 02:20:13AM +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 06:21:10PM +0000, Tony Finch wrote: > > http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/misc/horror.txt > > Thanks. Those are the "rm -rf /" horror stories I was looking for. > ROFL. It's not just sys-admins though is it? Many of our smaller customers only had a couple of Suns running the CAD system, so the users themselves knew the root password (or there was no root password). Our update tapes used to check for disk space and, if it was found to be insufficient, printed a message telling them to 'phone the helpdesk for assistance in creating enough space. Of course there were always those who knew better......like the guy who found "2 massive files" called vmunix and vmunix.orig (we had to patch SunOS 4.1 kernels) and, as they appeared not to be used(!), rm(1)'d them - if only SunOS had chflags(1). The really amusing thing here is that it was only /usr that was short of space. Then there was someone who found hundreds of 0 byte files in /dev and, you've guessed it, rm(1) again. Quite how he thought removing 0 byte files would create more disk space is anyones guess (I know it would release 512-bytes per inode, but anyone who doesn't know what /dev contains is highly unlikely to know what inodes are, or how much space they use). And now that everyone is downgrading to NT....... > -- > Adrian Wontroba > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message