From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Nov 1 16: 4:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2033837B4E5 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:04:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16286; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:01:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAICayPF; Wed Nov 1 17:01:06 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA09444; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:04:11 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200011020004.RAA09444@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: HLT To: seth@pengar.com (Seth Leigh) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:04:10 +0000 (GMT) Cc: chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001101185517.00c6def8@hobbiton.shire.net> from "Seth Leigh" at Nov 01, 2000 06:55:17 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ ... redirected to -chat ... ] > Someone write this down, so we don't forget. > > The environment *must* be one of Terry's hot buttons. > > Beware, lest you push it! No, my hot button is people claiming something is true "because everyone knows it", instead of because they know it themselves. Personally, I'm all for global warming, as it's been unseasonably cold in my area lately. I'm guessing that if we hadn't had an industrial revolution in the 1800's, we have already started into another ice age by now. Another example from the "environmental" faction is Oxygenated fuel. My car does not have fuel injection, it's carbuerated, and any car with injection manufactered since 1982 has an Oxygen sensor. What this means is that there's a narrow band of cars that pollute less with Oxygenated fuel, and all others not only get worse mileage, they pollute _more_ (just different levels of various pollutants). I used to have to go out of my way get fuel that wasn't Oxygenated in order to pass emissions in Pima county, Arizona. In the Bay area, you can only get Oxygenated fuel. My car still passes on it (they relaxed some pollutant level requirements to take the Oxygenation into effect, but it gets about 20% worse gas mileage on Oxygenated fuels, so I get to burn 20% more. Without them, my car does 64MPG on the highway, and pollutes less doing it. 8-p. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message