From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 23 07:03:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE5B16A4DA for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yraffah@savola.com) Received: from heathrow.savoladns.com (heathrow.savoladns.com [212.12.174.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CE8A43D45 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:03:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yraffah@savola.com) Received: from ocs.savola.com (ocs.savola.com [222.22.1.211]) by heathrow.savoladns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C9495864; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:03:20 +0300 (AST) Received: from 222.22.1.105 by ocs.savola.com with ESMTP id 68753081153637439; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:50:39 +0300 Message-ID: <44C31F02.7090501@savola.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:02:26 +0300 From: Yousef Raffah Organization: The Savola Group User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=E214EAA5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6DAA0422E0163FF08164498D" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: stray irq7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yraffah@savola.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:03:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6DAA0422E0163FF08164498D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian Smith wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jul 2006, Yousef Raffah wrote: > > Ian Smith wrote: > > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2006, Yousef Raffah wrote: > > > > > > > I have FreeBSD -CURRENT as of Mon Jul 17 20:06:47 AST 2006 on = my > > > > Toshiba Tecra A4 on my laptop and I keep on getting kernel: str= ay irq7 > > > > messages in my syslog and dmesg > > > >=20 > > > > I have absolutely no idea what does it mean except that it is r= elated to > > > > irq(s) somehow! > > > > > > % dmesg | grep 'irq 7' > > > ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 > > > > > > Does your Tecra have a parallel port? Is it connected to anything= ? > > > Actually I do have a parallel port (DB25) that is not connected to > > anything, but when I grep that, I get: > > dmesg -a | grep ppc0 > > ppc0: parallel port not found > > Well that's not good news if you want it - maybe needs enabling in BIOS= ?=20 > > It might pay to do a verbose-message boot and check dmesg carefully. > > =20 I have the verbose dmesg at the bottom. > > stray irq7 > >=20 > > Does this help? > > Maybe related, but the irq 11 storm associated with cbb0 and iwi0 you > reported to David W looks like more of a worry; I'll dip out of that. > > |> irq11: cbb0 iwi0+* 323649 13 > > Cheers, Ian > > =20 mem: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled null: ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413= ) rr232x: RocketRAID 232x controller driver v1.02 (Jul 17 2006 20:06:31) npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [MPSAFE] pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80010014 pci_open(1a): mode1res=3D0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=3D060000] [hdr=3D00] is there (id=3D25908= 086) pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Found $PIR table, 12 entries at 0xc00fe840 PCI-Only Interrupts: none Location Bus Device Pin Link IRQs embedded 0 1 A 0x60 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 28 A 0x61 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 28 B 0x60 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 28 C 0x62 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 28 D 0x63 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 29 A 0x6b 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 29 B 0x63 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 29 C 0x62 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 29 D 0x60 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 30 A 0x61 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 30 B 0x68 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 31 A 0x62 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 31 B 0x63 5 9 10 11 embedded 0 31 D 0x60 5 9 10 11 embedded 1 0 A 0x60 5 9 10 11 embedded 1 0 B 0x61 5 9 10 11 embedded 1 0 C 0x62 5 9 10 11 embedded 1 0 D 0x63 5 9 10 11 embedded 2 0 A 0x60 5 9 10 11 embedded 2 0 B 0x61 5 9 10 11 embedded 2 0 C 0x62 5 9 10 11 embedded 2 0 D 0x63 5 9 10 11 embedded 3 0 A 0x61 5 9 10 11 embedded 3 0 B 0x62 5 9 10 11 embedded 3 0 C 0x63 5 9 10 11 embedded 3 0 D 0x60 5 9 10 11 embedded 4 0 A 0x62 5 9 10 11 embedded 4 0 B 0x63 5 9 10 11 embedded 4 0 C 0x60 5 9 10 11 embedded 4 0 D 0x61 5 9 10 11 embedded 5 0 A 0x63 5 9 10 11 embedded 5 0 B 0x60 5 9 10 11 embedded 5 0 C 0x61 5 9 10 11 embedded 5 0 D 0x62 5 9 10 11 embedded 6 4 A 0x60 5 9 10 11 embedded 6 4 B 0x61 5 9 10 11 embedded 6 6 A 0x62 5 9 10 11 embedded 6 6 B 0x63 5 9 10 11 embedded 6 6 C 0x6a 5 9 10 11 embedded 6 6 D 0x68 5 9 10 11 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR AcpiOsDerivePciId: bus 6 dev 6 func 1 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR AcpiOsDerivePciId: bus 0 dev 31 func 0 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: wakeup code va 0xccb94000 pa 0x9d000 atpic: Programming IRQ9 as level/low acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR AcpiOsDerivePciId: bus 0 dev 0 func 0 ACPI timer: 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/2 1/2 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 -> 10 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 pci_link0: Links after initial probe: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 11 N 0 5 11 pci_link0: Links after initial validation: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 11 N 0 5 11 pci_link0: Links after disable: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 5 11 pci_link1: Links after initial probe: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 10 N 0 5 10 11 pci_link1: Links after initial validation: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 10 N 0 5 10 11 pci_link1: Links after disable: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 5 10 11 pci_link2: Links after initial probe: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 11 N 0 5 11 pci_link2: Links after initial validation: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 11 N 0 5 11 pci_link2: Links after disable: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 5 11 pci_link3: Links after initial probe: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 11 N 0 5 10 11 pci_link3: Links after initial validation: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 11 N 0 5 10 11 pci_link3: Links after disable: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 5 10 11 pci_link4: Links after initial probe: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 5 N 0 5 11 pci_link4: Links after initial validation: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 5 N 0 5 11 pci_link4: Links after disable: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 5 11 pci_link5: Links after initial probe: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 5 10 pci_link5: Links after initial validation: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 5 10 pci_link5: Links after disable: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 5 10 pci_link6: Links after initial probe: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 11 N 0 6 pci_link6: Links after initial validation: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 6 pci_link6: Links after disable: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 6 pci_link7: Links after initial probe: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 11 N 0 5 10 pci_link7: Links after initial validation: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 5 10 pci_link7: Links after disable: Index IRQ Rtd Ref IRQs 0 255 N 0 5 10 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_perf0: on cpu0 acpi_perf0: failed in PERF_STATUS attach device_attach: acpi_perf0 attach returned 6 acpi_perf0: on cpu0 acpi_perf0: failed in PERF_STATUS attach device_attach: acpi_perf0 attach returned 6 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 acpi_throttle0: P_CNT from P_BLK 0x1010 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 battery0: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 ACPI: Found matching pin for 0.1.INTA at func 0: 11 ACPI: Found matching pin for 0.28.INTA at func 0: 10 ACPI: Found matching pin for 0.28.INTB at func 1: 11 ACPI: Found matching pin for 0.29.INTA at func 0: 11 pci_link7: BIOS IRQ 11 for 0.29.INTA is invalid ACPI: Found matching pin for 0.29.INTB at func 1: 11 ACPI: Found matching pin for 0.29.INTC at func 2: 11 ACPI: Found matching pin for 0.29.INTD at func 3: 11 ACPI: Found matching pin for 0.30.INTA at func 2: 10 ACPI: Found matching pin for 0.30.INTB at func 3: 5 ACPI: Found matching pin for 0.31.INTB at func 2: 255 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: physical bus=3D0 found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x2590, revid=3D0x03 bus=3D0, slot=3D0, func=3D0 class=3D06-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0006, statreg=3D0x2090, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x2591, revid=3D0x03 bus=3D0, slot=3D1, func=3D0 class=3D06-04-00, hdrtype=3D0x01, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0007, statreg=3D0x0010, cachelnsz=3D4 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x0a (2500 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0= ns) intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 pcib0: matched entry for 0.1.INTA (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA:0) pcib0: slot 1 INTA routed to irq 11 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x2660, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D28, func=3D0 class=3D06-04-00, hdrtype=3D0x01, mfdev=3D1 cmdreg=3D0x0007, statreg=3D0x0010, cachelnsz=3D4 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x02 (500 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 = ns) intpin=3Da, irq=3D10 pcib0: matched entry for 0.28.INTA (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKB:0) pcib0: slot 28 INTA routed to irq 10 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKB found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x2662, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D28, func=3D1 class=3D06-04-00, hdrtype=3D0x01, mfdev=3D1 cmdreg=3D0x0007, statreg=3D0x0010, cachelnsz=3D4 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x02 (500 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 = ns) intpin=3Db, irq=3D11 pcib0: matched entry for 0.28.INTB (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA:0) pcib0: slot 28 INTB routed to irq 11 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x2658, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D29, func=3D0 class=3D0c-03-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D1 cmdreg=3D0x0005, statreg=3D0x0280, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00001200, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.29.INTA (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKH:0) pci_link7: Picked IRQ 5 with weight 0 pcib0: slot 29 INTA routed to irq 5 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKH found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x2659, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D29, func=3D1 class=3D0c-03-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0005, statreg=3D0x0280, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) intpin=3Db, irq=3D11 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00001220, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.29.INTB (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKD:0) pcib0: slot 29 INTB routed to irq 11 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKD found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x265a, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D29, func=3D2 class=3D0c-03-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0005, statreg=3D0x0280, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) intpin=3Dc, irq=3D11 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00001240, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.29.INTC (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKC:0) pcib0: slot 29 INTC routed to irq 11 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKC found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x265b, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D29, func=3D3 class=3D0c-03-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0005, statreg=3D0x0280, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) intpin=3Dd, irq=3D11 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00001260, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.29.INTD (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA:0) pcib0: slot 29 INTD routed to irq 11 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x265c, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D29, func=3D7 class=3D0c-03-20, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0000, statreg=3D0x0290, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f4000000, size 10, memory disable= d pcib0: matched entry for 0.29.INTA (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKH:0) pcib0: slot 29 INTA routed to irq 5 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKH found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x2448, revid=3D0xd4 bus=3D0, slot=3D30, func=3D0 class=3D06-04-01, hdrtype=3D0x01, mfdev=3D1 cmdreg=3D0x0007, statreg=3D0x0010, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x06 (1500 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0= ns) found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x266e, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D30, func=3D2 class=3D04-01-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0007, statreg=3D0x0290, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) intpin=3Da, irq=3D10 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e000, size 8, enabled map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e100, size 6, enabled map[18]: type 1, range 32, base d0000000, size 9, enabled map[1c]: type 1, range 32, base d0000200, size 8, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.30.INTA (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKB:0) pcib0: slot 30 INTA routed to irq 10 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKB found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x266d, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D30, func=3D3 class=3D07-03-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0005, statreg=3D0x0290, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) intpin=3Db, irq=3D5 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e200, size 8, enabled map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e300, size 7, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.30.INTB (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKE:0) pcib0: slot 30 INTB routed to irq 5 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKE found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x2641, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D31, func=3D0 class=3D06-01-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D1 cmdreg=3D0x0007, statreg=3D0x0200, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x2653, revid=3D0x04 bus=3D0, slot=3D31, func=3D2 class=3D01-01-80, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0005, statreg=3D0x02b0, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) intpin=3Db, irq=3D255 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00001100, size 4, enabled pcib1: irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: secondary bus 1 pcib1: subordinate bus 1 pcib1: I/O decode 0xc000-0xdfff pcib1: memory decode 0xc0000000-0xcfffffff pcib1: prefetched decode 0x90000000-0x9fffffff ACPI: Found matching pin for 1.0.INTA at func 0: 11 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: physical bus=3D1 found-> vendor=3D0x1002, dev=3D0x5460, revid=3D0x00 bus=3D1, slot=3D0, func=3D0 class=3D03-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0007, statreg=3D0x0010, cachelnsz=3D4 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit map[10]: type 3, range 32, base 90000000, size 27, enabled pcib1: (null) requested memory range 0x90000000-0x97ffffff: good map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 0000c000, size 8, enabled pcib1: (null) requested I/O range 0xc000-0xc0ff: in range map[18]: type 1, range 32, base c0000000, size 16, enabled pcib1: (null) requested memory range 0xc0000000-0xc000ffff: good pcib1: matched entry for 1.0.INTA (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA:0) pcib1: slot 0 INTA routed to irq 11 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA vgapci0: port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 0x90000000-0x97ffffff,0xc0000000-0xc000ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 pcib2: irq 10 at device 28.0 on pci0 pcib2: secondary bus 2 pcib2: subordinate bus 2 pcib2: I/O decode 0xa000-0xbfff pcib2: memory decode 0xbc000000-0xbfffffff pcib2: prefetched decode 0x8c000000-0x8fffffff ACPI: Found matching pin for 2.0.INTA at func 0: 11 pci2: on pcib2 pci2: physical bus=3D2 found-> vendor=3D0x11ab, dev=3D0x4362, revid=3D0x15 bus=3D2, slot=3D0, func=3D0 class=3D02-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0007, statreg=3D0x0010, cachelnsz=3D4 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=3D0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=3D0x00 (0 ns= ) intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 MSI supports 2 messages, 64 bit map[10]: type 1, range 64, base bc000000, size 14, enabled pcib2: (null) requested memory range 0xbc000000-0xbc003fff: good map[18]: type 4, range 32, base 0000a000, size 8, enabled pcib2: (null) requested I/O range 0xa000-0xa0ff: in range pcib2: matched entry for 2.0.INTA (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA:0) pcib2: slot 0 INTA routed to irq 11 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA pci2: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib3: irq 11 at device 28.1 on pci0 pcib3: secondary bus 3 pcib3: subordinate bus 3 pcib3: I/O decode 0x8000-0x9fff pcib3: memory decode 0xb8000000-0xbbffffff pcib3: prefetched decode 0x88000000-0x8bffffff pci3: on pcib3 pci3: physical bus=3D3 uhci0: port 0x1200-0x121f irq 5 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1200 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1220-0x123f irq 11 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1220 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x1240-0x125f irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1240 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x1260-0x127f irq 11 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1260 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xf4000000-0xf40003ff irq 5 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: Reserved 0x400 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xf4000000 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: on usb4 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib4: at device 30.0 on pci0 pcib4: secondary bus 6 pcib4: subordinate bus 6 pcib4: I/O decode 0x6000-0x7fff pcib4: memory decode 0xb0000000-0xb7ffffff pcib4: prefetched decode 0x80000000-0x87ffffff pcib4: Subtractively decoded bridge. ACPI: Found matching pin for 6.4.INTA at func 0: 11 ACPI: Found matching pin for 6.6.INTA at func 0: 255 ACPI: Found matching pin for 6.6.INTA at func 4: 11 ACPI: Found matching pin for 6.6.INTC at func 2: 11 pci_link6: BIOS IRQ 11 for 6.6.INTC is invalid ACPI: Found matching pin for 6.6.INTD at func 3: 5 pci6: on pcib4 pci6: physical bus=3D6 found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x4220, revid=3D0x05 bus=3D6, slot=3D4, func=3D0 class=3D02-80-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 cmdreg=3D0x0006, statreg=3D0x0290, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x80 (3840 ns), mingnt=3D0x03 (750 ns), maxlat=3D0x18 = (6000 ns) intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base b000b000, size 12, enabled pcib4: (null) requested memory range 0xb000b000-0xb000bfff: good pcib4: matched entry for 6.4.INTA (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA:0) pcib4: slot 4 INTA routed to irq 11 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKA found-> vendor=3D0x104c, dev=3D0x8031, revid=3D0x00 bus=3D6, slot=3D6, func=3D0 class=3D06-07-00, hdrtype=3D0x02, mfdev=3D1 cmdreg=3D0x0007, statreg=3D0x0210, cachelnsz=3D0 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=3D0xc0 (48000 ns), maxlat=3D0x0= 3 (750 ns) intpin=3Da, irq=3D255 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 13000000, size 12, enabled pcib4: (null) requested memory range 0x13000000-0x13000fff: good found-> vendor=3D0x104c, dev=3D0x8032, revid=3D0x00 bus=3D6, slot=3D6, func=3D2 class=3D0c-00-10, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D1 cmdreg=3D0x0006, statreg=3D0x0210, cachelnsz=3D4 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x80 (3840 ns), mingnt=3D0x02 (500 ns), maxlat=3D0x04 = (1000 ns) intpin=3Dc, irq=3D11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base b0000000, size 11, enabled pcib4: (null) requested memory range 0xb0000000-0xb00007ff: good map[14]: type 1, range 32, base b0004000, size 14, enabled pcib4: (null) requested memory range 0xb0004000-0xb0007fff: good pcib4: matched entry for 6.6.INTC (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKG:0) pci_link6: Picked IRQ 9 with weight 0 pcib4: slot 6 INTC routed to irq 9 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKG found-> vendor=3D0x104c, dev=3D0x8033, revid=3D0x00 bus=3D6, slot=3D6, func=3D3 class=3D01-80-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D1 cmdreg=3D0x0006, statreg=3D0x0210, cachelnsz=3D4 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x80 (3840 ns), mingnt=3D0x07 (1750 ns), maxlat=3D0x04= (1000 ns) intpin=3Dd, irq=3D5 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base b0008000, size 13, enabled pcib4: (null) requested memory range 0xb0008000-0xb0009fff: good pcib4: matched entry for 6.6.INTD (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKE:0) pcib4: slot 6 INTD routed to irq 5 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKE found-> vendor=3D0x104c, dev=3D0x8034, revid=3D0x00 bus=3D6, slot=3D6, func=3D4 class=3D08-05-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D1 cmdreg=3D0x0006, statreg=3D0x0210, cachelnsz=3D4 (dwords) lattimer=3D0x80 (3840 ns), mingnt=3D0x07 (1750 ns), maxlat=3D0x04 = (1000 ns) intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base b000a000, size 8, enabled pcib4: (null) requested memory range 0xb000a000-0xb000a0ff: good map[14]: type 1, range 32, base b000a100, size 8, enabled pcib4: (null) requested memory range 0xb000a100-0xb000a1ff: good map[18]: type 1, range 32, base b000a200, size 8, enabled pcib4: (null) requested memory range 0xb000a200-0xb000a2ff: good pcib4: matched entry for 6.6.INTA (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKC:0) pcib4: slot 6 INTA routed to irq 11 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKC iwi0: mem 0xb000b000-0xb000bfff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci6 iwi0: Reserved 0x1000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xb000b000 iwi0: bpf attached iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:12:f0:63:ae:ca iwi0: bpf attached iwi0: bpf attached iwi0: [MPSAFE] iwi0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps iwi0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps cbb0: mem 0x13000000-0x13000fff at device 6.0 on pci6 cbb0: Reserved 0x1000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0x13000000 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 pcib4: matched entry for 6.6.INTA (src \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKC:0) pcib4: slot 6 INTA routed to irq 11 via \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKC cbb0: [MPSAFE] cbb0: PCI Configuration space: 0x00: 0x8031104c 0x02100007 0x06070000 0x00824000 0x10: 0x13000000 0x020000a0 0x40080706 0xfffff000 0x20: 0x00000000 0xfffff000 0x00000000 0xfffffffc 0x30: 0x00000000 0xfffffffc 0x00000000 0x0740010b 0x40: 0xff101179 0x00000001 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x50: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x60: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x70: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x80: 0x08409060 0x00000000 0x000f0002 0x01aa1b22 0x90: 0x606600c0 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xa0: 0xfe120001 0x00c00000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xb0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xc0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xd0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xe0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xf0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 fwohci0: vendor=3D104c, dev=3D8032 fwohci0: vendor=3D104c, dev=3D8032 fwohci0: <1394 Open Host Controller Interface> mem 0xb0000000-0xb00007ff,0xb0004000-0xb0007fff irq 9 at device 6.2 on pci6 fwohci0: Reserved 0x800 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xb0000000 fwohci0: [MPSAFE] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=3D0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:08:0d:a0:d1:bf:aa:e1 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:08:0d:bf:aa:e1 fwe0: bpf attached fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:08:0d:bf:aa:e1 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=3D0xc000ffc0, gen=3D1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <=3D 0, cable IRM =3D 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) pci6: at device 6.3 (no driver attached) pci6: at device 6.4 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff,0xe100-0xe13f mem 0xd0000000-0xd00001ff,0xd0000200-0xd00002ff irq 10 at device 30.2 on pci0= pcm0: Reserved 0x200 bytes for rid 0x18 type 3 at 0xd0000000 pcm0: Reserved 0x100 bytes for rid 0x1c type 3 at 0xd0000200 pcm0: [MPSAFE] pcm0: pcm0: Codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, 5 bit master volume, no 3D Stereo Enhancement pcm0: Primary codec extended features variable rate PCM, AMAP, reserved 4= pcm0: ac97 codec dac ready count: 0 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 1f452000, 4000; 0xd4ac8000 -> 1f452000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 1f44e000, 4000; 0xd4acc000 -> 1f44e000 pci0: at device 30.3 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1100-0x110f at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x10 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1100 ata0: on atapci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid 0x10 type 4 at 0x1f0 atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid 0x14 type 4 at 0x3f6 ata0: reset tp1 mask=3D03 ostat0=3D80 ostat1=3D80 ata0: stat0=3D0x50 err=3D0x01 lsb=3D0x00 msb=3D0x00 ata0: stat1=3D0x00 err=3D0x01 lsb=3D0x00 msb=3D0x00 ata0: reset tp2 stat0=3D50 stat1=3D00 devices=3D0x1 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: on atapci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid 0x18 type 4 at 0x170 atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid 0x1c type 4 at 0x376 ata1: reset tp1 mask=3D03 ostat0=3D50 ostat1=3D00 ata1: stat0=3D0x00 err=3D0x01 lsb=3D0x14 msb=3D0xeb ata1: stat1=3D0x00 err=3D0x00 lsb=3D0x00 msb=3D0x00 ata1: reset tp2 stat0=3D00 stat1=3D00 devices=3D0x4 ata1: [MPSAFE] acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_tz1: on acpi0 acpi_tz2: on acpi0 acpi_tz3: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0067 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbd0 at atkbd0 kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x0, flags:0x3d0000 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: unable to allocate IRQ psmcpnp0: irq 12 on acpi0 psm0: current command byte:0067 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000008, packet size:3 psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 sio0: irq maps: 0xa21 0xa31 0xa21 0xa21 sio0: irq maps: 0xa21 0xa31 0xa21 0xa21 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FAST] sio1: irq maps: 0xa21 0xa29 0xa21 0xa21 sio1: irq maps: 0xa21 0xa29 0xa21 0xa21 sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff,0x110-0x117 irq 3 drq 1 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A sio1: [FAST] ata: ata0 already exists; skipping it ata: ata1 already exists; skipping it atkbdc: atkbdc0 already exists; skipping it sio: sio0 already exists; skipping it sio: sio1 already exists; skipping it pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 203 pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 243 pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 283 pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 2c3 pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 303 pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 343 pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 383 pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 3c3 PNP Identify complete ex_isa_identify() unknown: status reg test failed ff unknown: status reg test failed ff unknown: status reg test failed ff unknown: status reg test failed ff unknown: status reg test failed ff unknown: status reg test failed ff sc: sc0 already exists; skipping it vga: vga0 already exists; skipping it pass0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 pass0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device pass0: 33.000MB/s transfers GEOM: new disk cd0 ATA PseudoRAID loaded cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [1 x 2048 byte records] (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): error 22 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable Error (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): error 22 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable Error Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a start_init: trying /sbin/init battery0: battery initialization done, tried 2 times Linux ELF exec handler installed --=20 Sincerely, Yousef Adnan Raffah The Savola Group ------------------- Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at http://www.getfirefox.com --------------enig6DAA0422E0163FF08164498D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEwx8HqG4sHeIU6qURAnK6AKC1qU/kCrKzfHuZ9bV7W6byfnjHPACeOb/v ERAiumTiRUj1kpkqMmkLcQ0= =Ufv4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6DAA0422E0163FF08164498D-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 23 08:54:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E01916A4DD for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA44343D45 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:54:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J2U004IPM3DNT80@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:54:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.203.92.117]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0J2U00MLHM3DSYH0@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:54:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:54:49 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH In-reply-to: To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: <20060723105449.cd863f4f.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd5.5) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20060722141832.653b5449@localhost> <20060722200905.324bc2d6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20060722215438.dea11a69.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Subject: Re: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (Device not configured) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:54:55 -0000 On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Daniel Eischen wrote: > Read my original email. Hint: I'm sorry, my mail was unprecise. I did read your mail and was following the instrixctions in it. See below. > kldload firmware.ko > kldload wpi_ucode.ko These two load up fine. > kldload if_wpi.ko When I load this, thats when I get the Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: setting h/w config 1200 Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image wpi_ucode Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: wpi0: could not load firmware image 'wpi_ucode' lines in my /var/log/messages. Therefore, it looks like there is something not working with the firmware module, but I can't see the problem right now - everything looks good to mee, except those messages. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 23 10:10:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720EF16A4DE for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C8D43D45 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:10:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id UAA07609; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:10:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:10:44 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Yousef Raffah In-Reply-To: <44C31F02.7090501@savola.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: stray irq7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:10:57 -0000 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006, Yousef Raffah wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2006, Yousef Raffah wrote: > > > Ian Smith wrote: > > > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2006, Yousef Raffah wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have FreeBSD -CURRENT as of Mon Jul 17 20:06:47 AST 2006 on my > > > > > Toshiba Tecra A4 on my laptop and I keep on getting kernel: stray irq7 > > > > > messages in my syslog and dmesg > > > > > > > > > > I have absolutely no idea what does it mean except that it is related to > > > > > irq(s) somehow! > > > > > > > > % dmesg | grep 'irq 7' > > > > ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 > > > > > > > > Does your Tecra have a parallel port? Is it connected to anything? > > > > > Actually I do have a parallel port (DB25) that is not connected to > > > anything, but when I grep that, I get: > > > dmesg -a | grep ppc0 > > > ppc0: parallel port not found Er, no mention at all of ppc0 turned up in the verbose dmesg posted. > > Well that's not good news if you want it - maybe needs enabling in BIOS? Have you checked that it appears in BIOS? ie before booting up anything? > > It might pay to do a verbose-message boot and check dmesg carefully. > > > > > I have the verbose dmesg at the bottom. This is beyond me. Hopefully somebody else will spot something odd? > > > stray irq7 > > > > > > Does this help? > > > > Maybe related, but the irq 11 storm associated with cbb0 and iwi0 you > > reported to David W looks like more of a worry; I'll dip out of that. > > > > |> irq11: cbb0 iwi0+* 323649 13 > > > > Cheers, Ian > > > > > mem: > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled > null: > ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) > rr232x: RocketRAID 232x controller driver v1.02 (Jul 17 2006 20:06:31) > npx0: INT 16 interface > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: [MPSAFE] > pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80010014 > pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) > pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=25908086) > pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 > Found $PIR table, 12 entries at 0xc00fe840 > PCI-Only Interrupts: none [..] Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 23 12:49:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F53A16A4DD for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 12:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ntplx.net (mail.ntplx.net [204.213.176.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB1B43D45 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 12:49:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from sea.ntplx.net (sea.ntplx.net [204.213.176.11]) by mail.ntplx.net (8.13.7/8.13.7/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id k6NCnfMZ027357; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:49:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen X-X-Sender: eischen@sea.ntplx.net To: Torfinn Ingolfsen In-Reply-To: <20060723105449.cd863f4f.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Message-ID: References: <20060722141832.653b5449@localhost> <20060722200905.324bc2d6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20060722215438.dea11a69.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20060723105449.cd863f4f.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.ntplx.net) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (Device not configured) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Eischen List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 12:49:44 -0000 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:18:59 -0400 (EDT) > Daniel Eischen wrote: > >> Read my original email. Hint: > > I'm sorry, my mail was unprecise. I did read your mail and was > following the instrixctions in it. See below. > >> kldload firmware.ko >> kldload wpi_ucode.ko > > These two load up fine. > >> kldload if_wpi.ko > > When I load this, thats when I get the > Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: setting h/w config 1200 > Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image wpi_ucode > Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: wpi0: could not load firmware image 'wpi_ucode' > > lines in my /var/log/messages. Therefore, it looks like there is something not > working with the firmware module, but I can't see the problem right now - > everything looks good to mee, except those messages. Sorry, I don't run 6.x, so I can't help. Everything works fine on -current. If you're not at 6-stable, I'd try that. -- DE From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 23 15:42:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597F916A4E1 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BCB43D5C for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:42:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J2V00DZV4Y96620@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:42:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.203.92.117]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0J2V007504Y95T50@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:42:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:42:09 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH In-reply-to: To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: <20060723174209.e078fd29.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd5.5) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20060722141832.653b5449@localhost> <20060722200905.324bc2d6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20060722215438.dea11a69.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20060723105449.cd863f4f.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Subject: Re: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (Device not configured) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:42:26 -0000 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Daniel Eischen wrote: > Sorry, I don't run 6.x, so I can't help. Everything works fine > on -current. If you're not at 6-stable, I'd try that. I'm not asking for you specifically to help, just posting it here in case anyone have any good suggestions on what to do. :-) Y o know, things to try, where to report problems with the driver, the firmware framework, that sort of thing. I am already at -stable: tingo@kg-home$ uname -a FreeBSD kg-home.kg4.no 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Sat Jul 15 19:29:16 CEST 2006 root@kg-home.kg4.no:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Perhaps I need to lokk at the firmware framework in -current and see if there any changes there that are needed in -stable. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 23 17:59:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D0416A4E0 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB9243D6A for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:59:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i31so682052wxd for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=sJgIwO5bLmTN8ZxpubX6itVF83L0u5tftM0wDYA6I5wB8RoSso/1hz8XeEuTj1w5YEmWNfqC0vJwOMnyWH3csZE9DbKqwHOTwX1YlJS04abx7KjO+DDCKBOoi0+vmYoZZfw7z/VDrbVwvM4M54hPO4zYZP+JgPUWp6Rr6XG/3wc= Received: by 10.70.29.4 with SMTP id c4mr3851971wxc; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.16.9 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 12:59:27 -0500 From: "Don Wilde" Sender: dwilde1@gmail.com To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0261e7391df8dfed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: iwi firmware doesn't load X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:59:39 -0000 Enclosed are the relevant portions of my dmesg. I've resolved my arp conflicts (turns out the @#$%!! DSL modem won't give out more than ONE DHCP address!!!), but I still have the firmware loading problem. Thanks in advance for looking at this, folks. Don Wilde [snip] iwi0: mem 0xdfcfd000-0xdfcfdfff irq 17 at device 3.0 on pci3 iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:13:ce:79:f8:65 [snip] firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware iwi0: not found [snip] iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 ether 00:13:ce:79:f8:65 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid unwired channel 1 authmode SHARED privacy ON deftxkey 1 wepkey 1:40-bit txpowmax 100 protmode CTS [snip] Starting devd. firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware iwi0: not found exiting. iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 ether 00:13:ce:79:f8:65 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid unwired channel 1 authmode SHARED privacy ON deftxkey 1 wepkey 1:40-bit txpowmax 100 protmode CTS [snip] iwicontrol: Can't load firmware to driver : Invalid argument . Additional TCP options: From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 23 20:29:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA5C16A4DA for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF3A43D45 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:29:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6NKTqLo002568 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dougwide (pool-71-102-161-156.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.102.161.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6NKTjeU012863 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:29:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Douglas W. Goodall" To: Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:29:49 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c6ae96$c03a2000$6dce46c0@dougwide> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: High Thread-Index: Acaulr6bIjDuv/6YTESv4pqXu3gfoA== Subject: Stray irq 7's X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:29:53 -0000 I am a very knowlegeable OS software engineer and I know the stray irq7 problem intimately. The PIC (programable interrupt controller) used in PCs is sensitive and will raise an IR7 interrupt without a valid cause. This has been going on since S100 systems. We used to call it the vacuum cleaner interrupt because just about anything can cause it. The only fix for it is to enhance the source code of the interrupt routine to accept the interrupt and scrub the PIC. The problem is documented in the Intel publications. I have the same problem with my Sharp PC-MM20. You have two choices. See if you can ignore the problem, if it doesn't occur too often. Or encourage the FreeBSD Engineers to add the required code to the interrupt code. Or do it yourself. The PIC is complicated though and if you place it in the wrong mode, things will not work correctly. Douglas W. Goodall Long term FreeBSD supporter From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 23 20:39:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CED16A4DA for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s27.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s27.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCF343D49 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:39:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.54.106]) by bay0-omc2-s27.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:39:57 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:39:57 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 195.226.241.40 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:39:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.226.241.40] X-Originating-Email: [dead_line@hotmail.com] X-Sender: dead_line@hotmail.com From: "Dead Line" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:39:53 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2006 20:39:57.0275 (UTC) FILETIME=[28FFC2B0:01C6AE98] Subject: Tower with fBSD NOC. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:39:57 -0000 hello everyone, There is one building (Tower) from 11 floors! each floor 3 appartments. the owner wants me to have a NOC room down and setup a fully wired network points to each appartment. each appartment will have an internet connection based on a monthly membership to be paid somehow. I will have a FreeBSD server assuimng 6.1R as a gateway internet server in the noc room, Well, as long as im a network admin, i dunt have any concern about switches, routers or internet connections setup or sharing, or even doing a NAT for this building.. I have diffrent view of concern, and wish someone advice and tell HOWTO help, 1- How to setup an open date and expiry date account for a user, ofcourse i should do it webinterface for some managment reasons. and ofcourse i dunt want to set the expiry manual, well it should automatically the system do such stuff, any free packages that anyone knows about or advice me by? any freebsd builtin way? 2- If I will do NAT and consider it just like any other network, then each appartment user will see his nighber user on his network nighberhood!! which is not an option, no one should see anyone on this local lan, how to do that with FreeBSD ? 3- Is there any advices or ideas I should take in Consideration? Thank you so much, Marwan, So Proud to make FreeBSD the default server! _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 23 20:42:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A485416A4E2 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C3443D5C for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:41:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.54.110]) by bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:41:53 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:41:53 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 195.226.241.40 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:41:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.226.241.40] X-Originating-Email: [dead_line@hotmail.com] X-Sender: dead_line@hotmail.com From: "Dead Line" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:41:49 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2006 20:41:53.0202 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E18D120:01C6AE98] Subject: Tower with fBSD NOC X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:42:03 -0000 Sorry discard! should go to questions list not mobile. hello everyone, There is one building (Tower) from 11 floors! each floor 3 appartments. the owner wants me to have a NOC room down and setup a fully wired network points to each appartment. each appartment will have an internet connection based on a monthly membership to be paid somehow. I will have a FreeBSD server assuimng 6.1R as a gateway internet server in the noc room, Well, as long as im a network admin, i dunt have any concern about switches, routers or internet connections setup or sharing, or even doing a NAT for this building.. I have diffrent view of concern, and wish someone advice and tell HOWTO help, 1- How to setup an open date and expiry date account for a user, ofcourse i should do it webinterface for some managment reasons. and ofcourse i dunt want to set the expiry manual, well it should automatically the system do such stuff, any free packages that anyone knows about or advice me by? any freebsd builtin way? 2- If I will do NAT and consider it just like any other network, then each appartment user will see his nighber user on his network nighberhood!! which is not an option, no one should see anyone on this local lan, how to do that with FreeBSD ? 3- Is there any advices or ideas I should take in Consideration? Thank you so much, Marwan, So Proud to make FreeBSD the default server! _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 23 20:58:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5AE16A4DD for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F43143D45 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:58:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin03-en2 [10.13.10.148]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6NKwp7I019083 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dougwide (pool-71-102-161-156.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.102.161.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6NKwjo5014189 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Douglas W. Goodall" To: Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:58:49 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c6ae9a$cce42c20$6dce46c0@dougwide> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Importance: High Thread-Index: Acaumsvb5pAnseDTSKm+TGtNH00IOA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Subject: Stray irq7's X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:58:51 -0000 I looked closely at the source code i386/intr_machdep.c and I can see that the interrupt routine deals properly with the Default IR7. The only trouble is, the code considers the stray Ir7 a condition worth informing the user about and logging. IMHO, it would be better to just take care of it quietly. It isn't an important event and isn't worthy of bothering the root user. I commented out the logging code and everything works fine. Regards, Douglas W. Goodall From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 24 05:41:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E73116A4DA for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 05:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yraffah@savola.com) Received: from heathrow.savoladns.com (heathrow.savoladns.com [212.12.174.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B6F143D49 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 05:41:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yraffah@savola.com) Received: from ocs.savola.com (ocs.savola.com [222.22.1.211]) by heathrow.savoladns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C629D958EA for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:41:29 +0300 (AST) Received: from 222.22.1.105 by ocs.savola.com with ESMTP id 68894151153718964; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:29:24 +0300 Message-ID: <44C45D75.60009@savola.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:41:09 +0300 From: Yousef Raffah Organization: The Savola Group User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <000001c6ae9a$cce42c20$6dce46c0@dougwide> In-Reply-To: <000001c6ae9a$cce42c20$6dce46c0@dougwide> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=E214EAA5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9EF929B1AC2CF6A1FD5E1565" Subject: Re: Stray irq7's X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yraffah@savola.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 05:41:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9EF929B1AC2CF6A1FD5E1565 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Douglas W. Goodall wrote: > I looked closely at the source code i386/intr_machdep.c and I can see > that the interrupt routine deals properly with the Default IR7. The > only trouble is, the code considers the stray Ir7 a condition worth > informing the user about and logging. > > IMHO, it would be better to just take care of it quietly. It isn't an > important event and isn't worthy of bothering the root user. I > commented out the logging code and everything works fine. > Thank you so much for taking the time to look into the code and trying to fix that. I really appreciate you explaining the cause of the problem and how to fix it. If you don't mind, can you please share with us how to fix it so that other people might benefit from your solution as well? --=20 Sincerely, Yousef Adnan Raffah The Savola Group ------------------- Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at http://www.getfirefox.com --------------enig9EF929B1AC2CF6A1FD5E1565 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFExF16qG4sHeIU6qURAsCTAJ0Xt2t/Qf5U5hQ0QH3ta7gridu6hQCghrpt TDclwZxfsZeFCQENCxzbugI= =8/fc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9EF929B1AC2CF6A1FD5E1565-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 24 07:48:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC76816A4DE for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 07:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A06F43D46 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 07:48:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id RAA11701; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:48:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:48:30 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Yousef Raffah In-Reply-To: <44C45D75.60009@savola.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stray irq7's X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 07:48:46 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Yousef Raffah wrote: > Douglas W. Goodall wrote: > > I looked closely at the source code i386/intr_machdep.c and I can see > > that the interrupt routine deals properly with the Default IR7. The > > only trouble is, the code considers the stray Ir7 a condition worth > > informing the user about and logging. > > > > IMHO, it would be better to just take care of it quietly. It isn't an > > important event and isn't worthy of bothering the root user. I > > commented out the logging code and everything works fine. > > > Thank you so much for taking the time to look into the code and trying > to fix that. I really appreciate you explaining the cause of the problem > and how to fix it. If you don't mind, can you please share with us how > to fix it so that other people might benefit from your solution as well? Yousef, Since you've said that you have a DB25 printer port on your Tecra that is not being properly detected on boot, and doesn't show up in dmesg, I would consider commenting out irq 7 error logging to be just 'shooting the messenger', ie masking the problem rather than fixing it. Nothing further from me on this one .. Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 24 08:34:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A988A16A4DA for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hudnut@gps.caltech.edu) Received: from dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (dagalas.gps.caltech.edu [131.215.65.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A08643D46 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:34:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hudnut@gps.caltech.edu) Received: from dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (hudnut@[127.0.0.1]) by dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6O8XoUq009112 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hudnut@localhost) by dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id k6O8XoNt009109 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200607240833.k6O8XoNt009109@dagalas.gps.caltech.edu> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Auto-Submitted: auto-replied From: automatic.response@gps.caltech.edu X-gps.caltech.edu-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-gps.caltech.edu-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: this e-mail account is now disabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:34:07 -0000 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 24 18:23:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF2716A4DF for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7943243D4C for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:23:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6OINTcJ002662 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dougwide (pool-71-102-161-156.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.102.161.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6OINME4002511 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:23:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Douglas W. Goodall" To: Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:23:27 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c6af4e$433d2b70$6dce46c0@dougwide> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcavTkGsZzYonsmGTRyXzpF3Fah14Q== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Subject: Doug's method for suppressing stray interrupt logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:23:29 -0000 Hello Yousef and All, In /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/intr_machdep.c: 197 /* 198 * For stray interrupts, mask and EOI the source, bump the 199 * stray count, and log the condition. 200 */ 201 if (ie == NULL || TAILQ_EMPTY(&ie->ie_handlers)) { 202 isrc->is_pic->pic_disable_source(isrc, PIC_EOI); 203 204 /* (*isrc->is_straycount)++; 205 if (*isrc->is_straycount < MAX_STRAY_LOG) 206 log(LOG_ERR, "stray irq%d\n", vector); 207 else if (*isrc->is_straycount == MAX_STRAY_LOG) 208 log(LOG_CRIT, 209 "too many stray irq %d's: not logging anymore\n", 210 vector); 211 */ 212 213 return; See line 204 where /* starts the suspension See line 211 where */ ends the suspension Ian, Your question was good. Since the IBM AT there have been two programmable interrupt controllers in the architecture. The second one is slaved off the first one attached to the IR7 line of the primary pic. The interrupt routine does the necessay things to remove a valid interrupt cause and sends the End of Interrupt (EOI)command to the PIC. In the case of the "default ir7", there is no valid cause and that is why it is called a stray interrupt. The interrupt code in 6.1 looks good but IMHO the code shouldn't bother to log the strays. The code is handling them properly and my only contention is that the messenger should be ignored. One coud say, "Gee my Sharp PC-MM20 has a noisy bus and gets more default ir7's than some other box", but in the pig picture a few extra trips into the interrupt code is not enough cycles to sneeze at. BTW: The reason I didn't just change the value of MAX_STRAY_LOG was a nagging concern that if too many Stray interrupts occurred (like 32768) there might be a signed/unsigned comparison problem in the code that might cause the logging suspension to fail unexpectedly. Is is a great honor for me to share some hard earned knowledge with the community. :-) Respectfully, Douglas W. Goodall FreeBSD Enthusiast From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 08:46:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0F716A4DD for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBED43D49 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:46:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id SAA02713; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:46:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:46:21 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "Douglas W. Goodall" In-Reply-To: <000301c6af4e$433d2b70$6dce46c0@dougwide> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Doug's method for suppressing stray interrupt logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:46:34 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Douglas W. Goodall wrote: > Hello Yousef and All, > > In /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/intr_machdep.c: > > 197 /* > 198 * For stray interrupts, mask and EOI the source, bump the > > 199 * stray count, and log the condition. > 200 */ > 201 if (ie == NULL || TAILQ_EMPTY(&ie->ie_handlers)) { > 202 isrc->is_pic->pic_disable_source(isrc, PIC_EOI); > 203 > 204 /* (*isrc->is_straycount)++; > 205 if (*isrc->is_straycount < MAX_STRAY_LOG) > 206 log(LOG_ERR, "stray irq%d\n", vector); > > 207 else if (*isrc->is_straycount == MAX_STRAY_LOG) > 208 log(LOG_CRIT, > 209 "too many stray irq %d's: not logging > anymore\n", > 210 vector); > 211 */ > 212 > 213 return; > > See line 204 where /* starts the suspension > See line 211 where */ ends the suspension > > Ian, > Your question was good. Since the IBM AT there have been two programmable > interrupt controllers in the architecture. > The second one is slaved off the first one attached to the IR7 line of the > primary pic. Hi Doug, Hmm, perhaps I'm misremembering, but I was pretty sure the AT 2nd PIC was connected to IRQ _2_ on the first, thus elevating the priority of irqs 8-15 above those of irq 3-7, generally (then at least) used for slower devices like serial comms and lpt? Hence IRQ2/IRQ9 confusion? > The interrupt routine does the necessay things to remove a valid interrupt > cause and sends the End of Interrupt (EOI)command to the PIC. Yep. And a stray interrupt can only occur when that interrupt isn't masked off, ie is thought to be validly enabled for interrupt service. > In the case of the "default ir7", there is no valid cause and that is why > it is called a stray interrupt. > The interrupt code in 6.1 looks good but IMHO the code shouldn't bother to > log the strays. I assume your above patch stop logging of ALL stray irqs? I've seen, for instance, flakey HD controllers report stray irq 15s, which is not a message I'd want to miss out on seeing. I've also see stray irq 3 & 4s on some serial modem setups, that are usefully indicative of problems. > The code is handling them properly and my only contention is that the > messenger should be ignored. Even where the laptop concerned is said to have a DB25 parallel printer port that for some reason is not being detected by ACPI initialisation? If Yousef needs his parallel port to work, he needs irq7 to work. What does seem odd is that irq7 is enabled in the first place, if not used? > One coud say, "Gee my Sharp PC-MM20 has a noisy bus and gets more default > ir7's than some other box", > but in the pig picture a few extra trips into the interrupt code is not > enough cycles to sneeze at. I'm not sure what you mean by 'default' irq 7s? It's only the 'default' for the parallel printer / ppbus port, as far as I know. > BTW: The reason I didn't just change the value of MAX_STRAY_LOG was a > nagging concern that if too many > Stray interrupts occurred (like 32768) there might be a signed/unsigned > comparison problem in the code > that might cause the logging suspension to fail unexpectedly. Perhaps it might be better to reduce the value of MAX_STRAY_LOG so it gives up logging after just two or three instances - if you want to see them as spurious - than to bypass stray IRQ logging altogether, where it could be most helpful where there is a genuine problem - as can happen? Cheers, Ian > Is is a great honor for me to share some hard earned knowledge with the > community. :-) > > Respectfully, > > Douglas W. Goodall > FreeBSD Enthusiast From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 10:54:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E8F16A4DF for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from thin.berklix.org (thin.berklix.org [194.246.123.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3A943D45 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:54:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A51C1.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.81.193]) (authenticated bits=128) by thin.berklix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6PAsqGd037164; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:54:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6PAsnEs002234; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:54:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost.jhs.private [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6PAsnSD004602; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:54:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200607251054.k6PAsnSD004602@fire.jhs.private> To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: Message from Ian Smith of "Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:46:21 +1000." Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:54:49 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: "Douglas W. Goodall" , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Doug's method for suppressing stray interrupt logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:54:57 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > Hi Doug, > Hmm, perhaps I'm misremembering, but I was pretty sure the AT 2nd PIC > was connected to IRQ _2_ on the first, Yes. > thus elevating the priority of > irqs 8-15 above those of irq 3-7, generally (then at least) used for > slower devices like serial comms and lpt? Hence IRQ2/IRQ9 confusion? According to the back of my business card :-) http://berklix.com/~jhs/cv/#card High Pri.: 0, 1, 2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Low Pri. Ref. page 53 of "Open Technologies Service Group" handbook ISBN 0-929392-36-1 otsgroup@knoware.nl IRQ 2 is fed by 2nd IRQ controller http://www.rtcbooks.com/internalpc.php -- Julian Stacey. Consultant Unix Net & Sys. Eng., Munich. http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii, HTML=spam. Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 18:00:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7FB16A4DA for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmagnuszewski@mandtbank.com) Received: from mantrade-bh.mandtbank.com (mantrade-bh.mandtbank.com [12.19.225.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF64843D45 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:00:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmagnuszewski@mandtbank.com) X-Server-Uuid: C579A02E-95F6-4F43-912D-E5E42F8B364D Message-ID: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:59:28 -0400 From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 68D883A80RO1084116-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:00:18 -0000 All, I'm assuming this is the correct forum for this - correct me if I'm wrong... I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get it to run as fast and efficiently as possible. Are there any pointers/documents that anyone can point out to me that would help? Thanks! -Dan From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 18:06:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE6A16A4E1 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl (mx1.unixguru.nl [84.16.238.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015CA43D4C for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:06:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3603FE2; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:06:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl ([84.16.238.226]) by localhost (vs8616 [84.16.238.226]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07055-04; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:06:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.unixguru.nl (cc1029189-b.emmen1.dr.home.nl [212.120.110.227]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00853FCC; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:06:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (sun.unixguru.nl [192.168.10.7]) by mail.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0197356470; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:06:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:06:32 +0200 From: Richard Arends To: DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI Message-ID: <20060725180632.GC30146@sun.unixguru.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixguru.nl Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:06:37 -0000 On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: Daniel, > I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 > MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get it > to run as fast and efficiently as possible. Drop Gnome! -- Regards, Richard. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 18:30:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37DE16A506 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh2.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8ED43D88 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:29:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh2.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6PITqKd064772; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:29:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <44C6632C.7010607@centtech.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:30:04 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060612) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Arends References: <20060725180632.GC30146@sun.unixguru.nl> In-Reply-To: <20060725180632.GC30146@sun.unixguru.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1618/Mon Jul 24 20:12:40 2006 on mh2.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:30:02 -0000 On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > > Daniel, > >> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 >> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get it >> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. > > Drop Gnome! > I was just thinking the same thing! There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more efficient than gnome. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 18:47:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE5016A4E6 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67DD43D5D for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:47:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP (SSL) id DZU06020; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:47:20 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 0030145047; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:47:20 -0700 (PDT) To: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:59:28 EDT." Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:47:19 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060725184720.0030145047@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:47:39 -0000 > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:59:28 -0400 > From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > All, > > I'm assuming this is the correct forum for this - correct me if I'm > wrong... > > I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 > MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get it > to run as fast and efficiently as possible. Are there any > pointers/documents that anyone can point out to me that would help? I used to run Gnome on my 600E ad it' not hopeless, but I really suggest a leaner desktop. Gnome is pretty and feature rich, but it's a total pig for CPU. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 18:55:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCD016A4DA for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5C243D58 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:55:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1G5S3n-0003zi-TK for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:55:16 +0200 Received: from efficio.wh29.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.207.25]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:55:15 +0200 Received: from der_julian by efficio.wh29.tu-dresden.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:55:15 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Julian Stecklina Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:55:05 +0200 Lines: 27 Message-ID: <86u055qzue.fsf@dellbeast.localnet> References: <20060725180632.GC30146@sun.unixguru.nl> <44C6632C.7010607@centtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: efficio.wh29.tu-dresden.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) XEmacs/21.5-b27 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:W5j+TSm5E+hNomTFRxwvqil5a5I= Sender: news Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:55:27 -0000 Eric Anderson writes: > On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: >> Daniel, >> >>> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 >>> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get it >>> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. >> Drop Gnome! >> > > I was just thinking the same thing! > > There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more > efficient than gnome. XFCE tries to be light-weight, yet full-featured. If a desktop manager is not needed, I would recommend a blackbox-like WM or WindowMaker. I also like wmii, but that's a matter of personal taste. Regards, -- Julian Stecklina C has all the expressive power of two dixie cups and a string. (Jamie Zawinski) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 19:01:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74D016A4DA for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E384A43D70 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:01:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i23so846329wra for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=FJ+r80i+vbah+arLEK9tIAu9QvAKBL75IQZb/DXnY9+XVL8t1F1FdrgivUKSgpH+2PW79vvyNzdN999bbUKJHq1sraZsglTXybfjDMPuuYQh4AFKfFit4w5MwsBOr5KhC8v/hXxEfWWVWDl0O4emcmBCgGp/nWoNaTJhDKTXHU8= Received: by 10.54.79.8 with SMTP id c8mr5501447wrb; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.16.9 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:01:42 -0500 From: "Don Wilde" Sender: dwilde1@gmail.com To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <86u055qzue.fsf@dellbeast.localnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060725180632.GC30146@sun.unixguru.nl> <44C6632C.7010607@centtech.com> <86u055qzue.fsf@dellbeast.localnet> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4f43ef6d3057da63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:01:53 -0000 On 7/25/06, Julian Stecklina wrote: > > Eric Anderson writes: > > > On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > >> Daniel, > >> > >>> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 > >>> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get > it > >>> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. > >> Drop Gnome! > >> > > > > I was just thinking the same thing! > > > > There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more > > efficient than gnome. > > XFCE tries to be light-weight, yet full-featured. If a desktop manager > is not needed, I would recommend a blackbox-like WM or WindowMaker. I > also like wmii, but that's a matter of personal taste. I have always found that the original FVWM, v 1.24, is the leanest and most easily configurable WM out there. I've used it on anything from 486SX to P-4, and it does the job. My only complaint is that the maximize buttons don't quite work. However, the ease of making menus and things like that make it really shine in a lot of 'lean machine' apps. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 19:01:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7EC16A500 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E41B43D5C for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:01:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i31so1009915wxd for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:01:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=cV7/lrvnkRn9vKxdyhNjNwFk67o/t+VLV8xd6SSIVnoBHlFXAlp3YXCagn1y2PNyzJ9//kkBNtdN4FRUgtElZ62ujs/6CX4+iQs+52hpqRMOyZc9UJOeV5ydClx47SJ/RovZMholRJKg+pP4qZBhelgTp/ZJpYXhK1DiEIUZje0= Received: by 10.70.71.4 with SMTP id t4mr6962257wxa; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.16.9 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:01:42 -0500 From: "Don Wilde" Sender: dwilde1@gmail.com To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <86u055qzue.fsf@dellbeast.localnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060725180632.GC30146@sun.unixguru.nl> <44C6632C.7010607@centtech.com> <86u055qzue.fsf@dellbeast.localnet> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4f43ef6d3057da63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:01:56 -0000 On 7/25/06, Julian Stecklina wrote: > > Eric Anderson writes: > > > On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > >> Daniel, > >> > >>> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 > >>> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get > it > >>> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. > >> Drop Gnome! > >> > > > > I was just thinking the same thing! > > > > There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more > > efficient than gnome. > > XFCE tries to be light-weight, yet full-featured. If a desktop manager > is not needed, I would recommend a blackbox-like WM or WindowMaker. I > also like wmii, but that's a matter of personal taste. I have always found that the original FVWM, v 1.24, is the leanest and most easily configurable WM out there. I've used it on anything from 486SX to P-4, and it does the job. My only complaint is that the maximize buttons don't quite work. However, the ease of making menus and things like that make it really shine in a lot of 'lean machine' apps. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 20:05:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4656716A4DF for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA93743D6A for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:05:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6PK5KEo053521; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k6PK5Jnd053520; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:05:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:05:18 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Don Wilde Message-ID: <20060725200518.GA53427@thought.org> References: <20060725180632.GC30146@sun.unixguru.nl> <44C6632C.7010607@centtech.com> <86u055qzue.fsf@dellbeast.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:05:36 -0000 On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 02:01:42PM -0500, Don Wilde wrote: > On 7/25/06, Julian Stecklina wrote: > > > >Eric Anderson writes: > > > >> On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > >>> Daniel, > >>> > >>>> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 > >>>> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get > >it > >>>> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. > >>> Drop Gnome! > >>> > >> > >> I was just thinking the same thing! > >> > >> There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more > >> efficient than gnome. > > > >XFCE tries to be light-weight, yet full-featured. If a desktop manager > >is not needed, I would recommend a blackbox-like WM or WindowMaker. I > >also like wmii, but that's a matter of personal taste. > > > > I have always found that the original FVWM, v 1.24, is the leanest and most > easily configurable WM out there. I've used it on anything from 486SX to > P-4, and it does the job. My only complaint is that the maximize buttons > don't quite work. However, the ease of making menus and things like that > make it really shine in a lot of 'lean machine' apps. Is FVWM Gnome and KDE complient? IOW, do Gnome/KDE apps play-nice or work with a min of yelps to stderr? I'm still using CTWM which is very customizable, altho it takes know-how. I have every GUI app niced down to < -15, so on my slower systems things work fairly well. If you can figure out howto run Gnome with most things niced low, that mght help. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 20:07:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA89E16A4DA for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmagnuszewski@mandtbank.com) Received: from mantrade-bh.mandtbank.com (mantrade-bh.mandtbank.com [12.19.225.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD70143D80 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:07:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmagnuszewski@mandtbank.com) X-Server-Uuid: C579A02E-95F6-4F43-912D-E5E42F8B364D Message-ID: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:06:24 -0400 From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 68D8A66C0RO1114688-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:07:25 -0000 All, Thanks for the pointers. I do want a desktop manager. Is there a central site for most/all desktop managers? Feel free to offer any more suggestions or reasons for one versus another, and I will look into the ones already suggested. -Dan >>> "Don Wilde" 07/25/06 3:01 PM >>> On 7/25/06, Julian Stecklina wrote: > > Eric Anderson writes: > > > On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > >> Daniel, > >> > >>> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 > >>> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get > it > >>> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. > >> Drop Gnome! > >> > > > > I was just thinking the same thing! > > > > There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more > > efficient than gnome. > > XFCE tries to be light-weight, yet full-featured. If a desktop manager > is not needed, I would recommend a blackbox-like WM or WindowMaker. I > also like wmii, but that's a matter of personal taste. I have always found that the original FVWM, v 1.24, is the leanest and most easily configurable WM out there. I've used it on anything from 486SX to P-4, and it does the job. My only complaint is that the maximize buttons don't quite work. However, the ease of making menus and things like that make it really shine in a lot of 'lean machine' apps. _______________________________________________ freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 20:13:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA4C16A4DA for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx24.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D632C43D49 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:13:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 862 invoked by uid 399); 25 Jul 2006 20:13:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2006 20:13:46 -0000 Message-ID: <44C67B77.6080602@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:13:43 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:13:48 -0000 DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > All, > > Thanks for the pointers. I do want a desktop manager. The combination of windowmaker and rox-filer makes a nice lightweight wm+desktop environment. Add wdm and you've you've got all the conveniences of modern desktops without the overhead (IMO). hth, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 20:47:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7930C16A4DF for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from thin.berklix.org (thin.berklix.org [194.246.123.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DE143D70 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:47:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A51C1.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.81.193]) (authenticated bits=128) by thin.berklix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6PKl32V038753; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:47:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6PKl0pT004294; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:47:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost.jhs.private [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6PKl0NO022298; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:47:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200607252047.k6PKl0NO022298@fire.jhs.private> To: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" In-Reply-To: Message from "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" of "Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:06:24 EDT." Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:47:00 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:47:08 -0000 "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" wrote: > All, > > Thanks for the pointers. I do want a desktop manager. Is there a > central site for most/all desktop managers? cd /usr/ports/x11-wm ; ls | wc # 118 118 1082 A Lot of choice :-) PS I use fvwm with a localised /etc/system.fvwmrc -- Julian Stacey. Consultant Unix Net & Sys. Eng., Munich. http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii, HTML=spam. Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 20:49:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C0616A4DE for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC90743D79 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i31so1024553wxd for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:49:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Cp2+qSpi4xJJz8sdAmwaAYn88YcO0FCKbLVQtzZtzGg3tAGK+Kss1NIRc/uQwm9GeBmDiMaZH2XR+uuoWcv/QcZmqbeS8vJgbBrAp7PTNZ6bfmJNoad88ann4kQkoqtsS5EjpV8WBch1TbwzHj7Kz5BvtEcVe1gJkhnCevQVWwQ= Received: by 10.70.29.4 with SMTP id c4mr7078373wxc; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.16.9 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:49:19 -0500 From: "Don Wilde" Sender: dwilde1@gmail.com To: "Doug Barton" In-Reply-To: <44C67B77.6080602@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44C67B77.6080602@FreeBSD.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1e7e25a8fbdbee3f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:49:28 -0000 Right, and I think WindowMaker 0.92 is relatively Gnome-compliant. Of course, you have to realize hat when you enable such features you've just made everything dog-slow again. My EMACS lost about 40% of its (apparent) responsiveness when I built it in a gnome environment. On 7/25/06, Doug Barton wrote: > > DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > > All, > > > > Thanks for the pointers. I do want a desktop manager. > > The combination of windowmaker and rox-filer makes a nice lightweight > wm+desktop environment. Add wdm and you've you've got all the conveniences > of modern desktops without the overhead (IMO). > > hth, > > Doug > > -- > > This .signature sanitized for your protection > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 20:51:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E027016A4DA for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A8443D6B for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:50:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i31so1024771wxd for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=jt5nFxM+J4HSBQA0RHGLwo4IbmSZUQovy4NcBnWa3pZ5Eaq8jUsSZXWN3OEcbzW2Qhfm8q+PZSwylDCOw3UTCHEo0HLA+cGE1llVc9Qqvu0whS4uGeM6k73QOQqXF5ITTVoXuCUg+pGTKQNDElDvhLv6Dnwx5ACT9DD13kpi5VA= Received: by 10.70.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr1498058wxx; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.16.9 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:50:59 -0500 From: "Don Wilde" Sender: dwilde1@gmail.com To: "Doug Barton" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44C67B77.6080602@FreeBSD.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e7c07b3902909b03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:51:01 -0000 And no, FVWM is not compliant with either schema. You're definitely back in the apps of X11, not CD blasters and Noatun. On 7/25/06, Don Wilde wrote: > > Right, and I think WindowMaker 0.92 is relatively Gnome-compliant. Of > course, you have to realize hat when you enable such features you've just > made everything dog-slow again. My EMACS lost about 40% of its (apparent) > responsiveness when I built it in a gnome environment. > > > On 7/25/06, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > > > All, > > > > > > Thanks for the pointers. I do want a desktop manager. > > > > The combination of windowmaker and rox-filer makes a nice lightweight > > wm+desktop environment. Add wdm and you've you've got all the > > conveniences > > of modern desktops without the overhead (IMO). > > > > hth, > > > > Doug > > > > -- > > > > This .signature sanitized for your protection > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > " > > > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 20:56:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B062316A4E6 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.192.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DBE43D8E for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:56:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [208.206.151.59] (host59.gtisd.com?[208.206.151.59]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20060725205624m14007k0bke>; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:56:24 +0000 Message-ID: <44C68578.3070307@computer.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:56:24 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:56:29 -0000 On 07/25/2006 15:06, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > All, > > Thanks for the pointers. I do want a desktop manager. Is there a > central site for most/all desktop managers? Check out: http://www.xwinman.org/ > > Feel free to offer any more suggestions or reasons for one versus > another, and I will look into the ones already suggested. > > -Dan > >>>> "Don Wilde" 07/25/06 3:01 PM >>> > On 7/25/06, Julian Stecklina wrote: >> Eric Anderson writes: >> >>> On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: >>>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI > wrote: >>>> Daniel, >>>> >>>>> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, > PII 366 >>>>> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to > get >> it >>>>> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. >>>> Drop Gnome! >>>> >>> I was just thinking the same thing! >>> >>> There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more >>> efficient than gnome. >> XFCE tries to be light-weight, yet full-featured. If a desktop > manager >> is not needed, I would recommend a blackbox-like WM or WindowMaker. > I >> also like wmii, but that's a matter of personal taste. > > > > I have always found that the original FVWM, v 1.24, is the leanest and > most > easily configurable WM out there. I've used it on anything from 486SX > to > P-4, and it does the job. My only complaint is that the maximize > buttons > don't quite work. However, the ease of making menus and things like > that > make it really shine in a lot of 'lean machine' apps. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 23:36:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D50A16A4DA for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com (S0106002078125c0c.gv.shawcable.net [24.108.150.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659D143D46 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:36:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from cwsys.cwsent.com (cwsys [10.1.1.1]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F54B4C5C6; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6PNZumq023842; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Message-Id: <200607252335.k6PNZumq023842@cwsys.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.komquats.com/ To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: Message from Gary Kline of "Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:05:18 PDT." <20060725200518.GA53427@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:35:56 -0700 Sender: Cy.Schubert@komquats.com Cc: Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cy Schubert List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:36:03 -0000 In message <20060725200518.GA53427@thought.org>, Gary Kline writes: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 02:01:42PM -0500, Don Wilde wrote: > > On 7/25/06, Julian Stecklina wrote: > > > > > >Eric Anderson writes: > > > > > >> On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: > > >>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > > >>> Daniel, > > >>> > > >>>> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 > > >>>> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get > > >it > > >>>> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. > > >>> Drop Gnome! > > >>> > > >> > > >> I was just thinking the same thing! > > >> > > >> There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more > > >> efficient than gnome. > > > > > >XFCE tries to be light-weight, yet full-featured. If a desktop manager > > >is not needed, I would recommend a blackbox-like WM or WindowMaker. I > > >also like wmii, but that's a matter of personal taste. > > > > > > > > I have always found that the original FVWM, v 1.24, is the leanest and most > > easily configurable WM out there. I've used it on anything from 486SX to > > P-4, and it does the job. My only complaint is that the maximize buttons > > don't quite work. However, the ease of making menus and things like that > > make it really shine in a lot of 'lean machine' apps. > > > Is FVWM Gnome and KDE complient? Fvwm2 is ICCCM 2.0 compliant (should work under Gnome and KDE). I use it under Gnome 2.14. One day when I have the time and space I may install KDE on a machine to see how well Fvwm2 works in that environment. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert Web: http://www.komquats.com and http://www.bcbodybuilder.com FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org BC Government: "Lift long enough and I believe arrogance is replaced by humility and fear by courage and selfishness by generosity and rudeness by compassion and caring." -- Dave Draper From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 03:24:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E9F16A4DE for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FA243D46 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:24:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6Q3OjHw019937 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dougwide (pool-71-102-161-156.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.102.161.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6Q3OY5O010420 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:24:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Douglas W. Goodall" To: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:24:43 -0700 Message-ID: <002201c6b063$0cec6e30$6dce46c0@dougwide> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcawYwlFLpgXZu21QX2b6VzBzf+xSA== Subject: Followup about default ir7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:24:46 -0000 I misstated the 2nd pic connected to the ir7 on the primary PIC. It connects to ir2 on the primary PIC. Thanks to Ian Smith and Julian Stacey for pointing that out. Respectfully, Douglas W. Goodall From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 03:57:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E004516A4E2 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:57:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F08743D46 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:57:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin04-en2 [10.13.10.149]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout13/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6Q3vP3e011665 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dougwide (pool-71-102-161-156.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.102.161.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6Q3v9rT008294 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:57:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Douglas W. Goodall" To: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:57:18 -0700 Message-ID: <002601c6b067$9d7ddf70$6dce46c0@dougwide> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcawZ5aLEiUacABSSam7F4ejRuC95A== Subject: Regarding spurious IR7 Interrupts X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:57:26 -0000 Intel 386 EX Embedded Microprocessor User's Manual Order Number 272485-002 Says: 9.4.3 Spurious Interrupts For both edge and level-triggered interrupts, a high level must be maintained on the IR line until after the falling edge of the first INTA# pulse (see Figure 9-18). A spurious interrupt request is generated if this stipulation is not met. A spurious interrupt on any IR line generates the same vector number as an IR7 request. The spurious interrupt, however, does not set the in-service bit for IR7. Therefore, an IR7 interrupt service routine must check the in-service register to determine whether the interrupt source was a valid IR7 (the in-service bit is set) or a spurious interrupt (the in-service bit is cleared). Respectfully, Douglas W. Goodall From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 04:23:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BC216A4DD for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 04:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from serrano.cc.columbia.edu (serrano.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA3B43D46 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 04:23:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by serrano.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6Q4NR5J022529 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:23:28 -0400 (EDT) To: Cy Schubert References: <200607252335.k6PNZumq023842@cwsys.cwsent.com> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:23:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200607252335.k6PNZumq023842@cwsys.cwsent.com> (Cy Schubert's message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:35:56 -0700") Message-ID: <878xmhuh8g.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.6 Cc: Gary Kline , Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 04:23:38 -0000 Cy Schubert writes: > In message <20060725200518.GA53427@thought.org>, Gary Kline writes: >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 02:01:42PM -0500, Don Wilde wrote: >> > On 7/25/06, Julian Stecklina wrote: >> > > >> > >Eric Anderson writes: >> > > >> > >> On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: >> > >>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: >> > >>> Daniel, >> > >>> >> > >>>> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 >> > >>>> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get >> > >it >> > >>>> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. >> > >>> Drop Gnome! >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> I was just thinking the same thing! >> > >> >> > >> There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more >> > >> efficient than gnome. >> > > >> > >XFCE tries to be light-weight, yet full-featured. If a desktop manager >> > >is not needed, I would recommend a blackbox-like WM or WindowMaker. I >> > >also like wmii, but that's a matter of personal taste. >> > >> > >> > >> > I have always found that the original FVWM, v 1.24, is the leanest and most >> > easily configurable WM out there. I've used it on anything from 486SX to >> > P-4, and it does the job. My only complaint is that the maximize buttons >> > don't quite work. However, the ease of making menus and things like that >> > make it really shine in a lot of 'lean machine' apps. >> >> >> Is FVWM Gnome and KDE complient? > > Fvwm2 is ICCCM 2.0 compliant (should work under Gnome and KDE). I > use it under Gnome 2.14. One day when I have the time and space I > may install KDE on a machine to see how well Fvwm2 works in that > environment. > I would recommend wmii. Those are really the people who know how to work efficiently with a window manager. > > -- > Cheers, > Cy Schubert > Web: http://www.komquats.com and http://www.bcbodybuilder.com > FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org > BC Government: > > "Lift long enough and I believe arrogance is replaced by > humility and fear by courage and selfishness by generosity > and rudeness by compassion and caring." > -- Dave Draper > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 05:14:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F64316A4E0 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47B743D4C for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:14:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout14/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6Q5Ee9i008899 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dougwide (pool-71-102-161-156.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.102.161.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6Q5EY8W010900 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:14:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Douglas W. Goodall" To: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:14:43 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c6b072$688c66f0$6dce46c0@dougwide> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcawcmeDoW30DFr4TVm19wt+UH8qjw== Subject: Regarding "Default IR7s" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:14:41 -0000 I called the stray interrupts appearing on IR7 "default IR7s" because No matter which interrupt line caused the spurious interrupt, it "defaults" to IR7. This has nothing to do with the default interrupt for a printer port. With all due respect, Ian, I was speaking from experience and while I mispoke myself about the second pic attachment, I thought I was very clear about the default IR7. I have written hundreds of interrupt routines over the course of 25 years. Cheers, Douglas W. Goodall From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 07:06:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1470516A4DE for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FAE243D53 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:06:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6Q76iBX003286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:06:45 +1000 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6Q76igj001595; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:06:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k6Q76ia0001594; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:06:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:06:44 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI Message-ID: <20060726070644.GA740@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:06:48 -0000 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-Jul-25 13:59:28 -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: >I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 >MHZ. What luxury. I'm trying to get a usable FreeBSD 6.1 on a P-150. > I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get it >to run as fast and efficiently as possible. Are there any >pointers/documents that anyone can point out to me that would help? As everyone else has pointed out, Gnome is a pig. What I don't think anyone has mentioned is the amount of RAM you have. 64MB is quite small, especially if you're intending to use bloated apps (like gnome). You probably want to go thru your kernel config and strip out all the drivers you don't need. I strongly suggest you invest in another 64MB (or even 128MB) of RAM - everything will run much more happily. --=20 Peter Jeremy --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFExxSE/opHv/APuIcRAk7DAKCtqMpToCyajnKcbRO0ICTr7Eq7oQCWIGn9 Z1JA66Kk3G1+inUT2pwa0Q== =LZGu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 08:35:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F3016A4DD for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from incmc@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF66543D55 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:35:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from incmc@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Jul 2006 08:35:32 -0000 Received: from dslb-084-061-176-148.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO ms.homeip.net) [84.61.176.148] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 26 Jul 2006 10:35:32 +0200 X-Authenticated: #31688430 Received: from [10.0.0.4] (helo=ms.homeip.net) by ms.homeip.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) id 1G5erd-000LgJ-QY for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:35:33 +0200 Received: from 193.26.252.12 (SquirrelMail authenticated user web601p3) by ms.homeip.net with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:35:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <33208.193.26.252.12.1153902933.squirrel@ms.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:35:33 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jochen Zerhusen" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: HP Compaq nc6000 - Power Management X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:35:34 -0000 Hi all, I got a HP Compaq nc6000 here and I'm wondering if anyone has got a perfectly working power management setup. The only thing I've read so far is about enabling APM again. I could live without a STR (S3) etc. but even the backlight of the display doesn't turn off when closing the lid :-(. And that drains my battery a lot. Unfortunately this isn't hardware driven like it was on my IBM Thinkpad (same for the mixer / Fn buttons). Cheers, Jochen From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 10:29:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938A516A4DA for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBFE43D46 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:29:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1G5gdg-0003G9-O5 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:29:16 +0200 Received: from efficio.wh29.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.207.25]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:29:16 +0200 Received: from der_julian by efficio.wh29.tu-dresden.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:29:16 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Julian Stecklina Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:29:09 +0200 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <868xmgmzgq.fsf@dellbeast.localnet> References: <200607252335.k6PNZumq023842@cwsys.cwsent.com> <878xmhuh8g.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: efficio.wh29.tu-dresden.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) XEmacs/21.5-b27 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jEC8NfgzPSpqcPw52PYIu220pn8= Sender: news Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:29:23 -0000 Xiao-Yong Jin writes: > I would recommend wmii. Those are really the people who know how to > work efficiently with a window manager. The people behind wmii are kind of strange (the ion3 developers are not better *g*). Nonetheless, wmii 3.1 is a fine dynamic window manager, but not for the faint of heart, as it has a steep learning curve. Regards, -- Julian Stecklina C has all the expressive power of two dixie cups and a string. (Jamie Zawinski) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 14:19:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C4516A4E1 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kulminaator@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2802043D73 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:19:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kulminaator@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so2766221pyb for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:19:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bMxI7jljcAM01odztg9Ovua/D4v6js0DLppaXpGF3IZDMQ0VlOB+f50ZAgpPPvmNC1E2xLcyKpFjQXhIzMFMF4VCSIpdmR8sUsvEJOP6SEaZgjFg62Ne0dieI8VBeE6Hass7JkUswQQMbd7h9zMYCTZbP8gLXj7c3s9hGphyKCk= Received: by 10.35.117.5 with SMTP id u5mr2160767pym; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.124.16 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:19:42 +0200 From: "Martin Roos" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:19:51 -0000 Hi, 64 megs won't give you all that many options. As stated by the others, gnome has to go. I have used windowmaker and sawfish quite functionally, there was even a dock which could be used along with sawfish (can't remember name by heart, sry) so it was a fully functional desktop without the bloat. Also avoid using firefox, it's consuming far too much ram on the machine, opera may be better or galeon. If you can, avoid everything that is related to gnome or kde, their background apps consume an enormous amount of ram in your case. I run here on 1gb ram and even on me the ram runs really low sometimes (for example acrobat reader can make "wonders" when it comes to memory consumptions). Konsole and Gnome terminal you can forget as well, grab rxvt or anything else alike. Other than that, just get a lot of ram if you can, the cpu speed is not your problem, your bottleneck is the ram and the slow swapping to the slow harddisk. ps. don't forget that X can also show you remote clients, if you can run the heavy weight apps (or even the whole window manager) on another machine, do it. Good Luck, Martin > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:59:28 -0400 > From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" > Subject: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > All, > > I'm assuming this is the correct forum for this - correct me if I'm > wrong... > > I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 > MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get it > to run as fast and efficiently as possible. Are there any > pointers/documents that anyone can point out to me that would help? > > Thanks! > > -Dan > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 18:39:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F30916A4DD for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083E343D55 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:39:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6QIda1Q059135; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:39:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:38:38 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <000901c6ae96$c03a2000$6dce46c0@dougwide> In-Reply-To: <000901c6ae96$c03a2000$6dce46c0@dougwide> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607261438.39241.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:39:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1621/Wed Jul 26 02:13:01 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: "Douglas W. Goodall" Subject: Re: Stray irq 7's X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:39:42 -0000 On Sunday 23 July 2006 16:29, Douglas W. Goodall wrote: > I am a very knowlegeable OS software engineer and I know the stray irq7 > problem intimately. > > The PIC (programable interrupt controller) used in PCs is sensitive and will > raise an IR7 interrupt without a valid cause. This has been going on since > S100 systems. We used to call it the vacuum cleaner interrupt because just > about anything can cause it. > > The only fix for it is to enhance the source code of the interrupt routine > to accept the interrupt and scrub the PIC. > > The problem is documented in the Intel publications. I have the same problem > with my Sharp PC-MM20. > You have two choices. See if you can ignore the problem, if it doesn't > occur too often. Or encourage the FreeBSD > Engineers to add the required code to the interrupt code. Or do it > yourself. The PIC is complicated though and > if you place it in the wrong mode, things will not work correctly. Sadly the code already does the check (see src/sys/i386/isa/atpic.c): /* * If we don't have an event, see if this is a spurious * interrupt. */ if (isrc->is_event == NULL && (iframe.if_vec == 7 || iframe.if_vec == 15)) { int port, isr; /* * Read the ISR register to see if IRQ 7/15 is really * pending. Reset read register back to IRR when done. */ port = ((struct atpic *)isrc->is_pic)->at_ioaddr; mtx_lock_spin(&icu_lock); outb(port, OCW3_SEL | OCW3_RR | OCW3_RIS); isr = inb(port); outb(port, OCW3_SEL | OCW3_RR); mtx_unlock_spin(&icu_lock); if ((isr & IRQ_MASK(7)) == 0) return; } -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 18:44:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B7916A4E2 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665ED43D7D for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:44:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6QIioml059188; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:44:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:43:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <000001c6ae9a$cce42c20$6dce46c0@dougwide> In-Reply-To: <000001c6ae9a$cce42c20$6dce46c0@dougwide> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607261443.03128.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:44:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1621/Wed Jul 26 02:13:01 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: "Douglas W. Goodall" Subject: Re: Stray irq7's X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:44:56 -0000 On Sunday 23 July 2006 16:58, Douglas W. Goodall wrote: > I looked closely at the source code i386/intr_machdep.c and I can see that > the interrupt routine deals properly with the > Default IR7. The only trouble is, the code considers the stray Ir7 a > condition worth informing the user about and logging. > > IMHO, it would be better to just take care of it quietly. It isn't an > important event and isn't worthy of bothering > the root user. I commented out the logging code and everything works fine. See my other e-mail. The IRR check is done in the atpic-specific code in i386/isa/atpic.c:atpic_handle_intr() that calls the intr_execute_handlers() function you are looking at. My guess is that he's getting noise from the printer that triggers real IRQ7 interrupts, but since the interrupt line is masked, those interrupts don't trigger. Later, a spurious interrupt results in an unmasked IRQ7, but since IRQ7 is marked as pending due to the earlier noise interrupt from the printer, the IRR check fails and it ends up in intr_execute_handlers(). If that is the case, either disconnecting the printer or getting the ppc(4) driver working will fix the messages. Either way it's probably harmless and not something the OP needs to worry about. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 08:36:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404A716A4DD for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from offbyone@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp1.orange.fr (smtp1.orange.fr [193.252.22.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23F543D46 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:36:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from offbyone@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (mwinf0104 [172.22.132.26]) by mwinf0110.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A34125C0AA13 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:36:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (ADijon-151-1-168-115.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.213.242.115]) by mwinf0104.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 47F061FFFFB9 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:35:59 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060727083559294.47F061FFFFB9@mwinf0104.orange.fr Message-ID: <44C87AEE.3040906@xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:35:58 +0200 From: "Jacques S." User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060609) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:36:30 -0000 DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > All, > > Thanks for the pointers. I do want a desktop manager. Is there a > central site for most/all desktop managers? > All window managers that have been ported to FreeBSD are listed separately in the ports tree, at /etc/ports/x11-wm I don't know whether all of the wm's that have been recommended by others responding to your question are among them, but it presents a long list of possibilities. Let me add to the others who have recommended it, WindowMaker as my personal choice. Even WindowMaker has been 'gaining weight' in the last few years, but if you study it a little, you can trim in down in your own installation. As for Gnome and the 'fat' thereof...note that a *lot* of FreeBSD ported apps. rely on Gnome components that are installed as environmental dependencies, even if you do not run the desktop itself. It's all the product of the FreeBSD Gnome Project. These Gnome environment components have to be sorted out on a port-by-port basis. I found pkg_tree (/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tree) to be helpful. -- Jacques From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 14:13:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BC916A4E0 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com (S0106002078125c0c.gv.shawcable.net [24.108.150.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E5643D5A for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:13:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from cwsys.cwsent.com (cwsys [10.1.1.1]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C424C5C5; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6REDZpl090879; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Message-Id: <200607271413.k6REDZpl090879@cwsys.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.komquats.com/ To: Peter Jeremy In-Reply-To: Message from Peter Jeremy of "Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:06:44 +1000." <20060726070644.GA740@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:13:35 -0700 Sender: Cy.Schubert@komquats.com Cc: DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cy Schubert List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:13:43 -0000 In message <20060726070644.GA740@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org>, Peter Jeremy writes: > On Tue, 2006-Jul-25 13:59:28 -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > >I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 > >MHZ. > > What luxury. I'm trying to get a usable FreeBSD 6.1 on a P-150. I recently retired a P-133 (my firewall) with 48MB and a P-120 (my old ports testbed) with 80MB. It's very much doable. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert Web: http://www.komquats.com and http://www.bcbodybuilder.com FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org BC Government: "Lift long enough and I believe arrogance is replaced by humility and fear by courage and selfishness by generosity and rudeness by compassion and caring." -- Dave Draper From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 14:50:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A36F16A501 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6835043D62 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:50:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from yavin.vindaloo.com (yavin.vindaloo.com [172.24.144.34]) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF63B5C12 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.24.145.83] (client-13.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.83]) by yavin.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D64324C4D; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Christopher Hilton Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:50:46 -0400 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:50:54 -0000 Well, my notebook was stolen last night so after 3 years with my Gateway it's time get something new. I'm looking for recommendations. The features I'm looking for are: XGA graphics at a minimum of 1280 pixels horizontal and 960 pixels vertical. 1400x1050 is perfect Pentium M processor for battery life 1.6 GHz ~ 2.0 GHz Ability to do 3D Video acceleration would be a plus but isn't strictly necessary. XDAMAGE would be a double plus. A real serial port is a plus as I occasionally have to boot the odd sun workstation. Any suggestions are welcome. -- Chris From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 15:30:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7A316A536 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F67943D5C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:30:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (hwnsps@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6RFUFqf039689 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:30:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k6RFUFej039688; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:30:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:30:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200607271530.k6RFUFej039688@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-mobile User-Agent: tin/1.8.0-20051224 ("Ronay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:30:21 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:30:25 -0000 Christopher Hilton wrote: > Gateway it's time get something new. I'm looking for recommendations. I've bought a Samsung X20-XVM 1600-V. It's not expensive and works very well with FreeBSD (at least for me). > XGA graphics at a minimum of 1280 pixels horizontal and 960 > pixels vertical. 1400x1050 is perfect It even has a little more: 1440x1080. > Pentium M processor for battery life 1.6 GHz ~ 2.0 GHz Pentium-M (Centrino) 1.6 GHz. I think they also have variants with other processors. > Ability to do 3D Video acceleration would be a plus but isn't > strictly necessary. XDAMAGE would be a double plus. It has i915 intel graphics, and 3D video acceleration works perfectly fine with 6-stable. > A real serial port is a plus as I occasionally have to boot the > odd sun workstation. It doesn't have a serial port, like most notebooks today. However, you can buy the optional docking station, which does have a serial port. Or use a USB-serial adapter (if you can find one which is supported by FreeBSD). Here's output from dmesg, Xorg.log and other information: http://www.secnetix.de/~olli/dmesg/centaur/ Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 16:19:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9588416A4E5 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal4.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E3343D4C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id FXU24120; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:19:20 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 3D47945042; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:19:19 -0700 (PDT) To: Christopher Hilton In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:50:46 EDT." <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:19:19 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060727161919.3D47945042@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:19:25 -0000 > From: Christopher Hilton > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:50:46 -0400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > Well, my notebook was stolen last night so after 3 years with my > Gateway it's time get something new. I'm looking for recommendations. > The features I'm looking for are: > > > XGA graphics at a minimum of 1280 pixels horizontal and 960 > pixels vertical. 1400x1050 is perfect > > Pentium M processor for battery life 1.6 GHz ~ 2.0 GHz > > Ability to do 3D Video acceleration would be a plus but isn't > strictly necessary. XDAMAGE would be a double plus. > > A real serial port is a plus as I occasionally have to boot the > odd sun workstation. > > Any suggestions are welcome. I have not specific recommendations, just some things to be aware of. Many new laptops have High Definition Audio (HDA) which is not yet supported by FreeBSD (although several driver patches have been floated that work on some systems and not others). Get at least a Pentium-M or, better still, a Core-Duo. Much better performance and battery life than older Intel chips. I have no experience with AMDs in laptops, but I believe the newer Turions might be pretty reasonable, too. The odds of a working modem are pretty slim. Wireless is also a problem as many systems including any with "Centrino" A/B/G support are probably Intel 3945ABGs which are currently unsupported. Most laptops that are ordered (as opposed to bought at a store) are available with Atheros wireless which works very well. b/g cards are often supported by iwi which requires at least -stable to have a good chance of working properly. Other common wireless cards are Broadcom which can usually be cajoled into working with ndis. Serial is often available on "port replicators" or mini-docks, but is very rare on the base unit. USB-Serial devices work well and are fairly cheap (about $25US.) Graphics can be a problem. DRI can be especially difficult on newer systems. Radeon is pretty well supported, but you need to install radeontool from ports to deal with turning the display on and off. nVidia support is a bit less stable and often VESA mode seems to be the only good way to use them. In general newer laptops are likely to work best with -stable or -current, but current is NOT for the faint of heart. It just gets new device support sooner than -stable. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 17:15:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CC016A4DD for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmagnuszewski@mandtbank.com) Received: from mantrade-bh.mandtbank.com (mantrade-bh.mandtbank.com [12.19.225.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B0543D58 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:15:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmagnuszewski@mandtbank.com) X-Server-Uuid: 9786BD23-C122-4455-8D6A-31D7106C604A Message-ID: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:14:59 -0400 From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 68D62B3F0UK3173538-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:15:43 -0000 I decided on XFCE4 (at least for now). The install/setup was real easy - which was nice. I installed it last night, and I am quite happy with it. I like that the main philosophy of the project is to cater to the older, slower, lower memory machines. I definitely noticed a significant difference between Gnome and XFCE performance. Thanks again for all the suggestions. -Dan >>> "Julian Stecklina" 07/25/06 2:55 PM >>> Eric Anderson writes: > On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: >> Daniel, >> >>> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 >>> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get it >>> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. >> Drop Gnome! >> > > I was just thinking the same thing! > > There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more > efficient than gnome. XFCE tries to be light-weight, yet full-featured. If a desktop manager is not needed, I would recommend a blackbox-like WM or WindowMaker. I also like wmii, but that's a matter of personal taste. Regards, -- Julian Stecklina C has all the expressive power of two dixie cups and a string. (Jamie Zawinski) _______________________________________________ freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 17:35:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DC316A53B for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22B143D53 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:35:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6RHYrn7078521; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:35:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:51:57 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> In-Reply-To: <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607271151.57543.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:35:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1623/Wed Jul 26 18:35:11 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Christopher Hilton Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:35:18 -0000 On Thursday 27 July 2006 10:50, Christopher Hilton wrote: > Well, my notebook was stolen last night so after 3 years with my > Gateway it's time get something new. I'm looking for recommendations. > The features I'm looking for are: > > > XGA graphics at a minimum of 1280 pixels horizontal and 960 > pixels vertical. 1400x1050 is perfect > > Pentium M processor for battery life 1.6 GHz ~ 2.0 GHz > > Ability to do 3D Video acceleration would be a plus but isn't > strictly necessary. XDAMAGE would be a double plus. > > A real serial port is a plus as I occasionally have to boot the > odd sun workstation. > > Any suggestions are welcome. I recently got an HP nc6220 at work. It has 1400x1050 with i915 (which has DRM support) though you'll need 915resolution from ports to get 1400x1050 working. It is a centrino box, and the wireless button turns the iwi radio on and off which is nice. It also has a real DB9 serial port on the right side near the back. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 17:43:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E56E16A4DD for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BC943D78 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:43:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from yavin.vindaloo.com (yavin.vindaloo.com [172.24.144.34]) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E5B5C5F; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.24.145.83] (client-13.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.83]) by yavin.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D1C25371; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:43:19 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20060727161919.3D47945042@ptavv.es.net> References: <20060727161919.3D47945042@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Christopher Hilton Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:43:14 -0400 To: Kevin Oberman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:43:29 -0000 Thanks for the advice. In this case I'm trying to replace my Gateway 450ROG. That had a 1.4 GHz Pentium M and (a 4.5 hour battery life) as well as an ipw driven 802.11b card. Everything worked pretty well but I hated the build quality of the machine. If the new intel wifi chip isn't supported that's not too bad. I would have bought an atheros based card anyhow because that's the only thing I can get to work reliably with kismet. I really should have said that a real serial port is a requirement. I forgot that I don't want to buy a usb GPS when my Garmin 12XL works just fine. Thanks again -- Chris On Jul 27, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> From: Christopher Hilton >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:50:46 -0400 >> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >> >> Well, my notebook was stolen last night so after 3 years with my >> Gateway it's time get something new. I'm looking for recommendations. >> The features I'm looking for are: >> >> >> XGA graphics at a minimum of 1280 pixels horizontal and 960 >> pixels vertical. 1400x1050 is perfect >> >> Pentium M processor for battery life 1.6 GHz ~ 2.0 GHz >> >> Ability to do 3D Video acceleration would be a plus but isn't >> strictly necessary. XDAMAGE would be a double plus. >> >> A real serial port is a plus as I occasionally have to boot the >> odd sun workstation. >> >> Any suggestions are welcome. > > I have not specific recommendations, just some things to be aware of. > > Many new laptops have High Definition Audio (HDA) which is not yet > supported by FreeBSD (although several driver patches have been > floated > that work on some systems and not others). > > Get at least a Pentium-M or, better still, a Core-Duo. Much better > performance and battery life than older Intel chips. I have no > experience with AMDs in laptops, but I believe the newer Turions might > be pretty reasonable, too. > > The odds of a working modem are pretty slim. Wireless is also a > problem > as many systems including any with "Centrino" A/B/G support are > probably Intel 3945ABGs which are currently unsupported. Most > laptops that > are ordered (as opposed to bought at a store) are available with > Atheros wireless which works very well. b/g cards are often > supported by > iwi which requires at least -stable to have a good chance of working > properly. > > Other common wireless cards are Broadcom which can usually be cajoled > into working with ndis. > > Serial is often available on "port replicators" or mini-docks, but is > very rare on the base unit. USB-Serial devices work well and are > fairly > cheap (about $25US.) > > Graphics can be a problem. DRI can be especially difficult on newer > systems. Radeon is pretty well supported, but you need to install > radeontool from ports to deal with turning the display on and off. > nVidia support is a bit less stable and often VESA mode seems to be > the > only good way to use them. > > In general newer laptops are likely to work best with -stable or > -current, but current is NOT for the faint of heart. It just gets new > device support sooner than -stable. > -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 17:52:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69C216A51A for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx23.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBDB143DA1 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:52:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 18407 invoked by uid 399); 27 Jul 2006 17:52:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Jul 2006 17:52:32 -0000 Message-ID: <44C8FD5A.9090300@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:52:26 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> <200607271151.57543.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200607271151.57543.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: olli@lurza.secnetix.de, Christopher Hilton , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:52:50 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: > I recently got an HP nc6220 at work. Oliver Fromme wrote: > I've bought a Samsung X20-XVM 1600-V. Guys, tell us what we really want to know ... suspend/resume? :) Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 18:28:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AC816A4EF for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7521143D58 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:28:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.253] (unknown [192.168.0.253]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1B42E024; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:28:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:28:35 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?RXJpayBOw7hyZ2FhcmQ=?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060721) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090406010206080200090700" Cc: Subject: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:28:57 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090406010206080200090700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi: This question has been on various lists lately, maybe I'm on the right track: I looked at the source code and tried to track down what it attempts to load. It seems that it doesn't find the firmware to load. There are two things I found: 1) it seems it searches paths in kern.module_path, which by default is /boot/kernel;boot/modules. But I had my firmware installed in /boot/firmware. 2) it seems that modules that load a firmware blob are linked to this in the linker.hints file which must also reside in module_path I suppose. Getting the kernel modules, seems to require net/iwi-firmware-kmod, but this does not install the firmware, it install kernel modules and the linker.hints, although the firmware is distributed with the source. The linker.hints file seems to be defined in the makefiles for each kernel module, ie. in iwi_bss/Makefile you have: KMOD= iwi_bss FIRMWS= iwi_bss.fw:iwi_bss:300 .include Getting the firmware seems to require net/iwi-firmware which installs the firmware in /boot/firmware, but it seems further that filenames does not match those in the hints file, instead of iwi_bss.fw it installs iwi-bss.fw So things don't match up. A possible solution should then be: set kern.modules_path to include /boot/firmware or copy the firmware to /boot/modules. Make sure to link firmware files to the filename in linker.hints. That is replace '-' with '_'. I haven't had success with this yet - but maybe I've been messing too much around now, need a break. There is some development, I'm not sure if it has been imported into the source tree yet, http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/ There are two files of interest: 20060315.both.tgz 20060418.both_nofw.tgz The former includes the firmware and seems to let you create the linker.hints by editing the Makefiles, but beware that the firmware is installed under yet new names. The second is AFAIK the latest kernel modules. Has anyone succeeded in getting this to the end and get iwi firmware to load? 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turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail29.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6RJ5AWS028818 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:05:11 +1000 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6RJ5AAk013825; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:05:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k6RJ59ex013824; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:05:09 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:05:09 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Cy Schubert Message-ID: <20060727190509.GH715@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20060726070644.GA740@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <200607271413.k6REDZpl090879@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzX0AQGjRQPusK/O" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200607271413.k6REDZpl090879@cwsys.cwsent.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:05:23 -0000 --NzX0AQGjRQPusK/O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2006-Jul-27 07:13:35 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: >In message <20060726070644.GA740@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org>, Peter Jeremy=20 >writes: >> On Tue, 2006-Jul-25 13:59:28 -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: >> >I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 >> >MHZ. >>=20 >> What luxury. I'm trying to get a usable FreeBSD 6.1 on a P-150. > >I recently retired a P-133 (my firewall) with 48MB and a P-120 (my old=20 >ports testbed) with 80MB. It's very much doable. Maybe I should have been more explicit. I'm still running a P-120 firewall and it's quite satisfactory. X11, and especially things like Gnome, need lots more CPU and RAM than a typical firewall. --=20 Peter Jeremy --NzX0AQGjRQPusK/O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEyQ5l/opHv/APuIcRAmCgAJ9jNiQZwvpDYekrIeGeOOaqh8exbgCeOX7O 9BfX3saX5yBAve1O+KU4xKE= =XsMq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzX0AQGjRQPusK/O-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 19:45:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A52016A4DA; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE29943D46; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:45:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6RJj1S3079996; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:45:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Doug Barton Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:44:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> <200607271151.57543.jhb@freebsd.org> <44C8FD5A.9090300@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <44C8FD5A.9090300@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607271544.47726.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:45:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1624/Thu Jul 27 13:11:25 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: olli@lurza.secnetix.de, Christopher Hilton , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:45:07 -0000 On Thursday 27 July 2006 13:52, Doug Barton wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > > I recently got an HP nc6220 at work. > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > I've bought a Samsung X20-XVM 1600-V. > > Guys, tell us what we really want to know ... suspend/resume? :) Ah, I'm far too cynical on that one. If I want working suspend/resume I'll buy a MacBook. :) -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 21:28:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0A716A4DD for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D5043D49 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:28:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6RLSYAV002246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:28:39 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> <200607271151.57543.jhb@freebsd.org> <44C8FD5A.9090300@FreeBSD.org> <200607271544.47726.jhb@freebsd.org> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:28:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200607271544.47726.jhb@freebsd.org> (John Baldwin's message of "Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:44:47 -0400") Message-ID: <8764hin3el.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:28:40 -0000 John Baldwin writes: > On Thursday 27 July 2006 13:52, Doug Barton wrote: >> John Baldwin wrote: >> >> > I recently got an HP nc6220 at work. >> >> Oliver Fromme wrote: >> >> > I've bought a Samsung X20-XVM 1600-V. >> >> Guys, tell us what we really want to know ... suspend/resume? :) > > Ah, I'm far too cynical on that one. If I want working suspend/resume I'll > buy a MacBook. :) Okay, I just wanna make sure. Are you saying that a MacBook can do suspend/resume under FreeBSD? > > -- > John Baldwin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 21:34:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AE916A4DA for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A92343D46 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:34:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 31349 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jul 2006 21:34:26 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 31341, pid: 31343, t: 4.1289s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.88/m:38/d:1474 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.10?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@217.80.68.50) by bsd.ultra-secure.de with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jul 2006 21:34:22 -0000 Message-ID: <44C93158.6020704@ultra-secure.de> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:34:16 +0200 From: Rainer Duffner User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060515) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xiao-Yong Jin References: <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> <200607271151.57543.jhb@freebsd.org> <44C8FD5A.9090300@FreeBSD.org> <200607271544.47726.jhb@freebsd.org> <8764hin3el.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> In-Reply-To: <8764hin3el.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on bsd.ultra-secure.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:34:29 -0000 Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > John Baldwin writes: > > >> On Thursday 27 July 2006 13:52, Doug Barton wrote: >> >>> John Baldwin wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I recently got an HP nc6220 at work. >>>> >>> Oliver Fromme wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I've bought a Samsung X20-XVM 1600-V. >>>> >>> Guys, tell us what we really want to know ... suspend/resume? :) >>> >> Ah, I'm far too cynical on that one. If I want working suspend/resume I'll >> buy a MacBook. :) >> > > Okay, I just wanna make sure. Are you saying that a MacBook can do > suspend/resume under FreeBSD? > > I'm pretty sure it doesn't. But the original Samsung that Oliver mentioned actually does do ACPI S3+S4, AFAIK. The MacBook does S3+S4 under MacOS - and my personal opinion is that somebody who is out for a new notebook and really wants these features (ACPI S3+S4) working should either install XP - or buy a MB(P). cu, Rainer From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 21:36:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2757F16A4DE for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD02043D55 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:36:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from douglas_goodall@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout12/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6RLajjV016853 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dougwide (pool-71-102-161-156.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.102.161.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k6RLacSk006969 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:36:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Douglas W. Goodall" To: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:36:51 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c6b1c4$c7cd3a60$6dce46c0@dougwide> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcaxxMXRqwKCcJHUSjaAGMgYolysWw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Subject: Thanks for your feedback about interrupt handling X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:36:46 -0000 John Baldwin, You are well versed in the interrupt handling code of FreeBSD. I appreciated your note about where the PIC handling was done and your thoughts. Everything you said was right on. The task of writing code that will work on every clone machine in existence is extremely difficult and that's why Bill Gates uses everybody to test his Betas. It is impossible to create a quality assurance lab with every possible combination of motherboard, hard drives with roms, and other devices with roms. All you can really do is choose some mainstream manufacturers and do your best, then make improvements on a per machine basis in accordance with your priorities and resources. Enough has been said by me about this issue and I will return to quietly watching the list traffic. I am open to receiving questions from FreeBSD users at my email address if I may be of service. Thanks for everyone's indulgence during my traffic. With Huge Respect to the FreeBSD users and developers, Douglas W. Goodall From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 21:40:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BE016A4ED for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FF243D70 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:39:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6RLdqY0080692; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:39:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:39:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:39:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1624/Thu Jul 27 13:11:25 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Erik =?iso-8859-15?q?N=F8rgaard?= , Don Wilde Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:40:03 -0000 On Thursday 27 July 2006 14:28, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > Hi: >=20 > This question has been on various lists lately, maybe I'm on the right > track: Use the iwi-firmware-kmod port. You need the module wrappers around the=20 firmware in /boot/modules, not the raw firmware in /boot/firmware. That is= =20 the older way of doing things. > There is some development, I'm not sure if it has been imported into the > source tree yet, >=20 > http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/ Yes, it is in -current and I believe -stable now, and this just works fine= =20 with the iwi-firmware-kmod port. In short, upgrade to 6.1-stable, install the iwi-firmware-kmod port, and=20 everything should Just Work(tm). It does here on my laptop (albeit running= =20 7-current). =2D-=20 John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 21:40:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5D916A518 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A4D43D66 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:40:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6RLdqXx080692; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:39:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:37:20 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> <200607271544.47726.jhb@freebsd.org> <8764hin3el.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> In-Reply-To: <8764hin3el.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607271737.20782.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:39:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1624/Thu Jul 27 13:11:25 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:40:19 -0000 On Thursday 27 July 2006 17:28, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > John Baldwin writes: > > > On Thursday 27 July 2006 13:52, Doug Barton wrote: > >> John Baldwin wrote: > >> > >> > I recently got an HP nc6220 at work. > >> > >> Oliver Fromme wrote: > >> > >> > I've bought a Samsung X20-XVM 1600-V. > >> > >> Guys, tell us what we really want to know ... suspend/resume? :) > > > > Ah, I'm far too cynical on that one. If I want working suspend/resume I'll > > buy a MacBook. :) > > Okay, I just wanna make sure. Are you saying that a MacBook can do > suspend/resume under FreeBSD? No, a MacBook running Mac OS X. :) Suspend/resume is a pain, but if you get a Mac with OS X on it, it pretty much Just Works(tm). -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 21:53:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F3C16A4DF for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5FD43D6D for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:53:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 33249 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jul 2006 21:53:23 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 33241, pid: 33243, t: 4.1886s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.88/m:38/d:1474 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.10?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@217.80.68.50) by bsd.ultra-secure.de with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jul 2006 21:53:19 -0000 Message-ID: <44C935C9.2080307@ultra-secure.de> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:53:13 +0200 From: Rainer Duffner User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060515) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Hilton References: <20060727161919.3D47945042@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on bsd.ultra-secure.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:53:27 -0000 Christopher Hilton wrote: > Thanks for the advice. In this case I'm trying to replace my Gateway > 450ROG. That had a 1.4 GHz Pentium M and (a 4.5 hour battery life) as > well as an ipw driven 802.11b card. Everything worked pretty well but > I hated the build quality of the machine. > > If the new intel wifi chip isn't supported that's not too bad. I would > have bought an atheros based card anyhow because that's the only thing > I can get to work reliably with kismet. I really should have said that > a real serial port is a requirement. I forgot that I don't want to buy > a usb GPS when my Garmin 12XL works just fine. Fujitsu-Siemens' latest Lifebooks E (8110 & 8210) still carry serial and parallel ports. To match your old Gateway, a Lifebook E8010 would also work, which should be available via ebay a bit cheaper. ACPI S3+S4 do not work with my E8010, either, though, so the chances that it works with newer models is slim, at best. But the build-quality of the Lifebooks is very good. IMO, they are borderline to a toughbook (minus water-resistance, of course). And as I said: ACPI is a a big, commen problem with current notebooks, even when you use e.g. SuSE: everything bar XP is going to give major problems in the ACPI-department (at least). And even using XP could force you through the odd BIOS-update cycle (or two) until everything works. cheers, Rainer From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 21:55:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3362916A4DF for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alan@aillweecave.ie) Received: from mail2.radiowave.net (mail2.radiowave.net [195.218.118.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3D943D46 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:55:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan@aillweecave.ie) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.radiowave.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22BE136CD9 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:34:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from mail2.radiowave.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.radiowave.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15373-02 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:34:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from backbone.Aillweecave.local (unknown [84.203.178.237]) by mail2.radiowave.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD8E136CC7 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:34:48 +0100 (IST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:55:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4E5C0F1FE4FBC44092AEB9F268A802F31C450C@backbone.aillweecave.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ath driver vap Thread-Index: AcaxqLT7OZhqK38rRje0T+9A2jnd5QAHkFYw From: "alan walters" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by radiowave antivirus at mail.radiowave.net Subject: ath driver vap X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:55:23 -0000 Haven't seen anything mentioned on Virutal ap or wds for some time. I know there where plans to add these some time ago. Is there any chance or an update of this I have looked through the cvs but can't seem to find any tags for these changes. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 00:41:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8229516A4E5 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB39743D6B for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:41:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id s7so171621wxc for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:41:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=QXdUq1LpcgUADEwPnirCG868Vi4au12sz+wqlKBjuW5gJmh0amjC/00ZpvohC4PdCjPT+x6lB8QuUAREamvOMi5N01fT8p9z0CBspxrJVvsLZC8bJRYon+F8QTFRIGzEJAS8Io+Qfac4k9iQUCVv2Mz6KWD6n2Mz7mDMR+S6aUo= Received: by 10.70.11.11 with SMTP id 11mr1290632wxk; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.16.9 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:41:01 -0500 From: "Don Wilde" Sender: dwilde1@gmail.com To: "John Baldwin" In-Reply-To: <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 83263f58002455e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:41:12 -0000 On 7/27/06, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Thursday 27 July 2006 14:28, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > > Hi: > > > > This question has been on various lists lately, maybe I'm on the right > > track: > > Use the iwi-firmware-kmod port. You need the module wrappers around the > firmware in /boot/modules, not the raw firmware in /boot/firmware. That > is > the older way of doing things. > > > There is some development, I'm not sure if it has been imported into th= e > > source tree yet, > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/ > > Yes, it is in -current and I believe -stable now, and this just works fin= e > with the iwi-firmware-kmod port. > > In short, upgrade to 6.1-stable, install the iwi-firmware-kmod port, and > everything should Just Work(tm). It does here on my laptop (albeit > running > 7-current). > > -- > John Baldwin > Erik, John - I've gotten it working. It appears that the firmware kmod was getting loaded, but it was barfing on one of the extensions of the ifconfig I had installed. My old ifconfig was: ifconfig_iwi0=3D"DHCP ssid rewired channel 11 authmode shared weptxkey 1 wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890" and my new one is: ifconfig_iwi0=3D"DHCP ssid rewired weptxkey 1 wepmode on wepkey 0x123456789= 0" I also changed the access point config to leave those open for negotiation. This error message still exists, just before 'Additional TCP options: .' iwicontrol: Can't load firmware to driver : Invalid argument . From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 06:50:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A81916A4DE; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE2F43D5D; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:50:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (ylqnun@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6S6oSiC067583; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:50:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k6S6oRMQ067581; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:50:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200607280650.k6S6oRMQ067581@lurza.secnetix.de> To: dougb@FreeBSD.org (Doug Barton) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:50:27 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <44C8FD5A.9090300@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:50:33 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Christopher Hilton , John Baldwin , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:50:36 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > > I recently got an HP nc6220 at work. > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > I've bought a Samsung X20-XVM 1600-V. > > Guys, tell us what we really want to know ... suspend/resume? :) I don't need it, so I've never bothered to try. Also, I've not tried to use the built-in modem (I suspect it doesn't work because it's a winmodem, but I don't need it either). The firewire port is detected correctly and I believe it would work, but I don't have any IEEE1394 equipment to test with. Everything else works: USB, PCCARD, 1440x1080 video with 2D and 3D acceleration (DRM/DRI), audio, built-in iwi(4) WLAN, Fast-ethernet (bfe(4)), DVD-/+R/RW drive, PS/2 port for external keyboard and mouse, ACPI with thermal zone management, power saving with cpufreq(4) + powerd(8). I probably forgot a few. :-) Best regards Oliver PS: No need to keep me on the Cc list; I do read the mailing list and don't need duplicate mails. ;-) -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "Python tricks" is a tough one, cuz the language is so clean. E.g., C makes an art of confusing pointers with arrays and strings, which leads to lotsa neat pointer tricks; APL mistakes everything for an array, leading to neat one-liners; and Perl confuses everything period, making each line a joyous adventure . -- Tim Peters From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 09:50:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9001E16A4DD for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2ED43D49 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:50:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1G6Oyz-0001HG-D9 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:50:13 +0200 Received: from efficio.wh29.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.207.25]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:50:13 +0200 Received: from der_julian by efficio.wh29.tu-dresden.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:50:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Julian Stecklina Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:49:54 +0200 Lines: 17 Message-ID: <867j1yoy7x.fsf@dellbeast.localnet> References: <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> <200607271530.k6RFUFej039688@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: efficio.wh29.tu-dresden.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) XEmacs/21.5-b27 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:m52bbRkc+drlbZhqzwNGoh2CEf4= Sender: news Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:50:25 -0000 Oliver Fromme writes: > > Ability to do 3D Video acceleration would be a plus but isn't > > strictly necessary. XDAMAGE would be a double plus. > > It has i915 intel graphics, and 3D video acceleration works > perfectly fine with 6-stable. I wouldn't call it "acceleration", since I guess my old TNT2 Ultra has more graphics power than the Intel Extreme chips... Regards, -- Julian Stecklina C has all the expressive power of two dixie cups and a string. (Jamie Zawinski) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 10:22:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD67816A4E0 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919DB43D69 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:22:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (mzsxer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6SALsBT073958 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:21:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k6SALsq4073957; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:21:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:21:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200607281021.k6SALsq4073957@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <867j1yoy7x.fsf@dellbeast.localnet> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-mobile User-Agent: tin/1.8.0-20051224 ("Ronay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:21:59 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:22:06 -0000 Julian Stecklina wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > Ability to do 3D Video acceleration would be a plus but isn't > > > strictly necessary. XDAMAGE would be a double plus. > > > > It has i915 intel graphics, and 3D video acceleration works > > perfectly fine with 6-stable. > > I wouldn't call it "acceleration", since I guess my old TNT2 Ultra has > more graphics power than the Intel Extreme chips... The 2D and 3D acceleration is more than sufficient for typical stuff, such as playing DVDs and other videos full-screen, running those well-known OpenGL screen savers, and playing /usr/ports/games/crack-attack. All of that smoothly and full-screen at 1440 x 1080. What more would you want? :-) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "In My Egoistical Opinion, most people's C programs should be indented six feet downward and covered with dirt." -- Blair P. Houghton From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 13:33:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD3716A55D for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E6C43D45 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:33:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6SDXAWn086102; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:33:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: "Don Wilde" Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:21:10 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607280921.10859.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:33:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1624/Thu Jul 27 13:11:25 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Erik =?iso-8859-15?q?N=F8rgaard?= , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:33:18 -0000 On Thursday 27 July 2006 20:41, Don Wilde wrote: > On 7/27/06, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > On Thursday 27 July 2006 14:28, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > > > This question has been on various lists lately, maybe I'm on the right > > > track: > > > > Use the iwi-firmware-kmod port. You need the module wrappers around the > > firmware in /boot/modules, not the raw firmware in /boot/firmware. That > > is > > the older way of doing things. > > > > > There is some development, I'm not sure if it has been imported into = the > > > source tree yet, > > > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/ > > > > Yes, it is in -current and I believe -stable now, and this just works f= ine > > with the iwi-firmware-kmod port. > > > > In short, upgrade to 6.1-stable, install the iwi-firmware-kmod port, and > > everything should Just Work(tm). It does here on my laptop (albeit > > running > > 7-current). > > > > -- > > John Baldwin > > >=20 > Erik, John - >=20 > I've gotten it working. It appears that the firmware kmod was getting > loaded, but it was barfing on one of the extensions of the ifconfig I had > installed. My old ifconfig was: >=20 > ifconfig_iwi0=3D"DHCP ssid rewired channel 11 authmode shared weptxkey 1 > wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890" >=20 > and my new one is: >=20 > ifconfig_iwi0=3D"DHCP ssid rewired weptxkey 1 wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567= 890" >=20 > I also changed the access point config to leave those open for negotiatio= n. >=20 > This error message still exists, just before 'Additional TCP options: .' >=20 > iwicontrol: > Can't load firmware to driver > : > Invalid argument > . Well, I use wpa_supplicant to setup WEP, though I'm not sure that is what is the issue. Why are you using iwicontrol, btw? You shouldn't be using iwicontrol to load the firmware anymore. The driver now asks for the firmware directly when it needs it. =2D-=20 John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 13:49:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACD916A4DD for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:49:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9146C43D77 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:49:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so266162wxc for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:49:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=SAsmZbYolqAB4XYr2sNtEgZtxVuF+cDxehKnoL/0hJZlTPKKzOWb1JtAPZfwKKzs7CWgzkm7UEnrWaVoj7bXkcSoDEqKrCEMU/0do9fIzLcXPyvTl8KXDs4Kk22RARFvXIdHiZkGywbJIdFxCidpV9QOGiiyeYgQ5bfWeQdOKdQ= Received: by 10.70.62.13 with SMTP id k13mr2185134wxa; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.16.9 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:49:47 -0500 From: "Don Wilde" Sender: dwilde1@gmail.com To: "John Baldwin" In-Reply-To: <200607280921.10859.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> <200607280921.10859.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: fe660698f8a8e299 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:49:55 -0000 On 7/28/06, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Thursday 27 July 2006 20:41, Don Wilde wrote: > > On 7/27/06, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday 27 July 2006 14:28, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > > > > Hi: > > > > > > > > This question has been on various lists lately, maybe I'm on the > right > > > > track: > > > > > > Use the iwi-firmware-kmod port. You need the module wrappers around > the > > > firmware in /boot/modules, not the raw firmware in > /boot/firmware. That > > > is > > > the older way of doing things. > > > > > > > There is some development, I'm not sure if it has been imported int= o > the > > > > source tree yet, > > > > > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/ > > > > > > Yes, it is in -current and I believe -stable now, and this just works > fine > > > with the iwi-firmware-kmod port. > > > > > > In short, upgrade to 6.1-stable, install the iwi-firmware-kmod port, > and > > > everything should Just Work(tm). It does here on my laptop (albeit > > > running > > > 7-current). > > > > > > -- > > > John Baldwin > > > > > > > Erik, John - > > > > I've gotten it working. It appears that the firmware kmod was getting > > loaded, but it was barfing on one of the extensions of the ifconfig I > had > > installed. My old ifconfig was: > > > > ifconfig_iwi0=3D"DHCP ssid rewired channel 11 authmode shared weptxkey = 1 > > wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890" > > > > and my new one is: > > > > ifconfig_iwi0=3D"DHCP ssid rewired weptxkey 1 wepmode on wepkey > 0x1234567890" > > > > I also changed the access point config to leave those open for > negotiation. > > > > This error message still exists, just before 'Additional TCP options: .= ' > > > > iwicontrol: > > Can't load firmware to driver > > : > > Invalid argument > > . > > Well, I use wpa_supplicant to setup WEP, though I'm not sure that is > what is the issue. Why are you using iwicontrol, btw? You shouldn't be > using iwicontrol to load the firmware anymore. The driver now asks for > the firmware directly when it needs it. > > -- > John Baldwin > Hi, John - I'm not asking for it, something in (I guess) one of the rc files is doing so.... grepping: Yep, /usr/local/etc/rc.d/iwi.sh. Amazing what you find laying around in the attic. :) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 14:46:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7779416A54E for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreas.kohn@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05ECC43D7F for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:46:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas.kohn@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so839137uge for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:46:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=T2qg7VbAcPL61Fty7E+tKZSG/t8mtF66Zb/21GIzlbZWe643pywRWTMT3oLJGbNM/21cnY2rxJgd0WszWz0DjpwJ2BXEaXz30n22H2c+uiZjiBygMcLqnse1aMEaaKk+ReBMOm8QyMkIkVQNlqmMdRzUkDoS2gdMparUx7I4Llc= Received: by 10.78.156.6 with SMTP id d6mr207993hue; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.159.8 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:46:20 +0200 From: "Andreas Kohn" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Intel i830M behind transparent AGP bridge? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:46:32 -0000 Hi, a friend of mine has a laptop which has an Intel i830M chipset. Linux recognizes the chip, and connects it to its agpgart. FreeBSD* also recognizes the chip, but see it as connected to the pci bus. This makes the drm parts fail to attach, as they require (according to the code) the i830 to be attached as AGP chip. Is this a known problem, and even more, is there any known work-around to achieve working drm with i830M in this setup? The relevant/interesting lines from the boot Linux: PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0 PCI: Bus #02 (-#05) is hidden behind transparent bridge #01 (-#01) (try 'pci=assign-busses') Please report the result to linux-kernel to fix this permanently [...] agpgart: Detected an Intel 830M Chipset. agpgart: Detected 8060K stolen memory. agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0x98000000 [...] [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102 [...] [drm] Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 0 [drm] Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 1 FreeBSD: pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 drmsub0: mem 0x98000000-0x9fffffff,0x90100000-0x9017ffff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 error: [drm:pid0:drm_load] *ERROR* Card isn't AGP, or couldn't initialize AGP. device_attach: drmsub0 attach returned 12 drmsub1: mem 0x88000000-0x8fffffff,0x80200000-0x8027ffff at device 2.1 on pci0 error: [drm:pid0:drm_load] *ERROR* Card isn't AGP, or couldn't initialize AGP. device_attach: drmsub1 attach returned 12 drmsub0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x05051014 chip=0x35778086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82830M/MG Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA drmsub1@pci0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x05051014 chip=0x35778086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82830M/MG Integrated Graphics Device' class = display I have put a complete FreeBSD (6.1-Release, *PCBSD) dmesg, the linux dmesg (Knoppix), and the ACPI .dsl file on http://andreas.syndrom23.de/dump/enrico-laptop Could updating to -CURRENT help in any way? Best Regards, Andreas Kohn From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 14:52:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E215F16A4F8 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900F743D4C for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:51:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3400JWJBY8CZA0@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:51:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.203.92.117]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0J3400LWPBY8M920@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:51:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:51:44 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: <20060728165144.fead1c51.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd5.5) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Acer Aspire AS5672 and Intel PRO/Wireless 3945abg X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:52:04 -0000 Hi, I have a Acer Aspire AS5672WLMi laptop. Among other things, it has an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG inside. This laptop runs FreeBSD 6.1-stable. It also have a seriously broken BIOS / acpi, which means that I have to run with acpi disabled in order to make the wired network interface /bge0) work. About a week ago, I found out about the experimental 3945 driver at http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/wpi-freebsd.tgz so naturallu, I had to try it. after making the driver compile and install, I did kldload firmware kldload wpi_ucode kldload if_wpi After that, I got this in /var/log/messages: Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: wpi0: mem 0xc8200000-0xc8200fff irq 17 at d evice 0.0 on pci3 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: bus_dmamem_alloc failed to align memory properly.bus_dmamem_alloc failed to align memory properly.bus_dmamem_alloc failed to align memory properly.bus_dmamem_alloc failed to align me mory properly.bus_dmamem_alloc failed to align memory properly.bus_dmamem_alloc failed to align memory prop erly.bus_dmamem_alloc failed to align memory properly.channel 1 pwr1 0x008a pwr2 0x0086 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 2 pwr1 0x0082 pwr2 0x008b Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 3 pwr1 0x008f pwr2 0x0092 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 4 pwr1 0x0092 pwr2 0x008f Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 5 pwr1 0x0000 pwr2 0x0000 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 6 pwr1 0x0080 pwr2 0x0080 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 7 pwr1 0x0080 pwr2 0x0080 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 8 pwr1 0x0081 pwr2 0x0080 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 9 pwr1 0x007f pwr2 0x0081 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 10 pwr1 0x0000 pwr2 0x0000 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 11 pwr1 0xfffe pwr2 0xfffe Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 12 pwr1 0x0001 pwr2 0x0001 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 13 pwr1 0xfffe pwr2 0xfffe Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: channel 14 pwr1 0x0001 pwr2 0x0001 Jul 22 20:51:58 kg-home kernel: wpi0: Ethernet address: 00:13:02:3e:d4:ce which looks promising. But it is followed by this: Jul 22 20:58:18 kg-home kernel: setting h/w config 1200 Jul 22 20:58:18 kg-home kernel: wpi0: fatal firmware error Jul 22 20:58:18 kg-home kernel: wpi0: timeout resetting Rx ring Jul 22 20:58:18 kg-home kernel: wpi0: timeout transferring firmware Jul 22 20:58:18 kg-home kernel: wpi0: could not load firmware Jul 22 20:58:18 kg-home kernel: wpi0: timeout resetting Tx ring 1 Jul 22 20:58:18 kg-home kernel: wpi0: timeout resetting Tx ring 3 Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: wpi0: timeout resetting Tx ring 4 Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: setting h/w config 1200 Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image wpi_ucode Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: wpi0: could not load firmware image 'wpi_ucode' Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: setting h/w config 1200 Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image wpi_ucode Jul 22 20:58:19 kg-home kernel: wpi0: could not load firmware image 'wpi_ucode' which indicates that it has problem loading the firmware. Question: when making the formware module (wpi_ucode), everything exists in that module, including the firmware itself, yes? There are no other files I need? Just for the hell of it, I booted the laptop with ACPI enabled (even if that means thwet bge0 won't work) and tried to get wpi working. It didn't. After booting, I did the usual kldload firmware kldload wpi_ucode kldload if_wpi here is the output from /var/log/messages: Jul 28 16:19:32 kg-home kernel: wpi0: irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 Jul 28 16:19:32 kg-home kernel: wpi0: 0x1000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). Jul 28 16:19:32 kg-home kernel: wpi0: could not allocate memory resource Jul 28 16:19:32 kg-home kernel: device_attach: wpi0 attach returned 12 Jul 28 16:19:32 kg-home kernel: bge0: irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci4 Jul 28 16:19:32 kg-home kernel: bge0: 0x10000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). Jul 28 16:19:32 kg-home kernel: bge0: couldn't map memory Jul 28 16:19:32 kg-home kernel: device_attach: bge0 attach returned 6 Clearly, this doesn't work at all. Note: I do not know why it prints the lines regarding bge0 here, I have not even tried to configure bge0. It seems to be the same lines that are printed on boot for bge0: Jul 28 16:18:42 kg-home kernel: bge0: irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci4 Jul 28 16:18:42 kg-home kernel: bge0: 0x10000 bytes of rid 0x10 res 3 failed (0, 0xffffffff). Jul 28 16:18:42 kg-home kernel: bge0: couldn't map memory Jul 28 16:18:42 kg-home kernel: device_attach: bge0 attach returned 6 Well, this was just a test. Any suggestions on what to try next to get this driver (wpi) working are welcome, as ndis doesn't work on the 3945abg. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 15:26:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C8916A4DE; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC8B43D49; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:26:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.253] (unknown [192.168.0.253]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060062E024; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:26:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CA2CA1.3040801@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:26:25 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060721) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090208020401010102000609" Cc: Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:26:29 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090208020401010102000609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday 27 July 2006 14:28, Erik Nørgaard wrote: >> There is some development, I'm not sure if it has been imported into the >> source tree yet, >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/ > > Yes, it is in -current and I believe -stable now, and this just works fine > with the iwi-firmware-kmod port. > > In short, upgrade to 6.1-stable, install the iwi-firmware-kmod port, and > everything should Just Work(tm). It does here on my laptop (albeit running > 7-current). The new_iwi has not been backported to -stable yet. I tried to use just the iwi-firmware-kmod port, disabling dhcp on that interface and configuring manually, loading modules in order: firmware, iwi_bss and if_iwi. Still, I can not get it working, output from dmesg: iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci6 iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 This appears fine after I load if_iwi no further errors. But then configuring with # ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP mode 11g channel 6 The following error appears: Interrupt storm detected on "irq5:"; throttling interrupt source iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware I do get the interface configured but with "no carrier". I unload and reload if_iwi and configure again: iwi0: detached iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci6 iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware Note the interupt storm when the module is first loaded, but not the second time. Why on irq 5 when the iwi0 is on irq 10? Looking at my devices, lspci -v output below, there is an USB controler on irq 5 _and_ 10. Could some with the iwi problems some how propagate? As seen below the bus is ICH6 based. Any hints? Thanks, Erik 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 Memory at b0080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) I/O ports at 1800 Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) Memory at b0040000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: fast devsel Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2 00:1b.0 Class 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 Memory at b0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5 I/O ports at 1820 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 1840 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5 Memory at b0004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] Debug port 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d3) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=06, subordinate=07, sec-latency=216 I/O behind bridge: 00002000-00002fff Memory behind bridge: b0100000-b01fffff Capabilities: [50] #0d [0000] 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 80 [Master]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 255 I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at 1870 Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 2 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 18a0 06:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 2000 Memory at b0104000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 06:09.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI7420 CardBus Controller Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 Memory at b0105000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Bus: primary=06, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=32 16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001 06:09.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCI7x20 1394a-2000 OHCI Two-Port PHY/Link-Layer Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 7 Memory at b0104800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Memory at b0100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 06:09.3 Mass storage controller: Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 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id 212C516A4E0 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:05:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861A143D81 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:05:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6SG5DTW087122; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:05:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Erik =?iso-8859-15?q?N=F8rgaard?= Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:00:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> <44CA2CA1.3040801@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44CA2CA1.3040801@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607281200.14440.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:05:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1624/Thu Jul 27 13:11:25 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:05:17 -0000 On Friday 28 July 2006 11:26, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > On Thursday 27 July 2006 14:28, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > >> There is some development, I'm not sure if it has been imported into t= he > >> source tree yet, > >> > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/ > >=20 > > Yes, it is in -current and I believe -stable now, and this just works f= ine=20 > > with the iwi-firmware-kmod port. > >=20 > > In short, upgrade to 6.1-stable, install the iwi-firmware-kmod port, an= d=20 > > everything should Just Work(tm). It does here on my laptop (albeit=20 running=20 > > 7-current). >=20 > The new_iwi has not been backported to -stable yet. I tried to use just > the iwi-firmware-kmod port, disabling dhcp on that interface and > configuring manually, loading modules in order: firmware, iwi_bss and > if_iwi. If it uses firmware_get() it qualifies as new_iwi for now. You should not= =20 have to explicitly load iwi_bss, firmware(9) will do that for you. > Note the interupt storm when the module is first loaded, but not the > second time. That's because it only logs a message once. =2D-=20 John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 16:10:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D46716A5BB; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED42943D53; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:10:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.248] (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k6SGAdX0099838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:10:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <44CA36FF.9070404@errno.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:10:39 -0700 From: Sam Leffler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> <44CA2CA1.3040801@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44CA2CA1.3040801@locolomo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:10:43 -0000 Erik Nørgaard wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: >> On Thursday 27 July 2006 14:28, Erik Nørgaard wrote: >>> There is some development, I'm not sure if it has been imported into the >>> source tree yet, >>> >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/new_iwi/ >> Yes, it is in -current and I believe -stable now, and this just works fine >> with the iwi-firmware-kmod port. >> >> In short, upgrade to 6.1-stable, install the iwi-firmware-kmod port, and >> everything should Just Work(tm). It does here on my laptop (albeit running >> 7-current). > > The new_iwi has not been backported to -stable yet. I tried to use just > the iwi-firmware-kmod port, disabling dhcp on that interface and > configuring manually, loading modules in order: firmware, iwi_bss and > if_iwi. Either you've mis-typed the above or you are incorrect. From cvs log if_iwi.c: revision 1.8.2.7 date: 2006/07/11 00:00:29; author: mlaier; state: Exp; lines: +1525 -618 MFC iwi update: Sync with if_iwi.c 1.35, if_iwireg.h 1.12, if_iwivar.h 1.11 Lots of changes. This version now requires net/iwi-firmware-kmod so we also bump __FreeBSD_version to use in the port. That is, RELENG_6 has the revised iwi code and you must use the iwi-firmware-kmod port. > > Still, I can not get it working, output from dmesg: > > > iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 > at device 10.0 on pci6 > iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > > This appears fine after I load if_iwi no further errors. But then > configuring with > > # ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP mode 11g channel 6 > > The following error appears: > > Interrupt storm detected on "irq5:"; throttling interrupt source > iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete > iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss > firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss > iwi0: could not load firmware > > I do get the interface configured but with "no carrier". I unload and > reload if_iwi and configure again: > > iwi0: detached > iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 > at device 10.0 on pci6 > iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss > iwi0: could not load firmware > > Note the interupt storm when the module is first loaded, but not the > second time. > > Why on irq 5 when the iwi0 is on irq 10? Looking at my devices, lspci -v > output below, there is an USB controler on irq 5 _and_ 10. Could some > with the iwi problems some how propagate? > > As seen below the bus is ICH6 based. > > Any hints? Thanks, Erik Figure out why you are not loading firmware properly. The firmware is packaged as normal loadable modules you can actually pre-load them using kldload. Check things loaded normally with kdlstat and/or check the console log msgs. My guess is you are not loading the correct firmware modules. I think there's a debugging knob/sysctl for firmware(9) but can't remember it off hand. I've wanted to include the firmware in the base system for a while so we can put all this firmware packaging stupidity behind us. It just requires having a click-thru agreement mechanism on first use or possibly just the intel README file in the directory. Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 16:48:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6B116A4DA for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C599943D78 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:48:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.253] (unknown [192.168.0.253]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34852E024; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:48:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CA3FD7.9040506@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:48:23 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060721) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam Leffler References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> <44CA2CA1.3040801@locolomo.org> <44CA36FF.9070404@errno.com> In-Reply-To: <44CA36FF.9070404@errno.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010705050901020503010401" Cc: Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:48:26 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010705050901020503010401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sam Leffler wrote: > Erik Nørgaard wrote: >> The new_iwi has not been backported to -stable yet. I tried to use just >> the iwi-firmware-kmod port, disabling dhcp on that interface and >> configuring manually, loading modules in order: firmware, iwi_bss and >> if_iwi. > > Either you've mis-typed the above or you are incorrect. Sorry, I think I misunderstood it. I thought the objective of the new_iwi was to get everything in base thus depreciating the installation of net/iwi-firmware-kmod. >> Still, I can not get it working, output from dmesg: >> >> >> iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 >> at device 10.0 on pci6 >> iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 >> >> This appears fine after I load if_iwi no further errors. But then >> configuring with >> >> # ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP mode 11g channel 6 >> >> The following error appears: >> >> Interrupt storm detected on "irq5:"; throttling interrupt source >> iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete >> iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss >> firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss >> iwi0: could not load firmware >> >> I do get the interface configured but with "no carrier". I unload and >> reload if_iwi and configure again: >> >> iwi0: detached >> iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 >> at device 10.0 on pci6 >> iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 >> firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss >> iwi0: could not load firmware >> >> Note the interupt storm when the module is first loaded, but not the >> second time. >> >> Why on irq 5 when the iwi0 is on irq 10? Looking at my devices, lspci -v >> output below, there is an USB controler on irq 5 _and_ 10. Could some >> with the iwi problems some how propagate? >> >> As seen below the bus is ICH6 based. >> >> Any hints? Thanks, Erik > > Figure out why you are not loading firmware properly. The firmware is > packaged as normal loadable modules you can actually pre-load them using > kldload. Check things loaded normally with kdlstat and/or check the > console log msgs. My guess is you are not loading the correct firmware > modules. I think there's a debugging knob/sysctl for firmware(9) but > can't remember it off hand. First, the iwi_bss module is not loaded automatically if none of the modules firmware, iwi_bss and if_iwi are present, # kldload if_iwi will load firmware, but not iwi_bss. It does not change anything manually loading firmware and/or iwi_bss before if_iwi or loading iwi_bss after, manually configuring iwi0 with ifconfig always causes the error: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware I am wondering if this could be caused by the ICH6 bus? I have other problems with the bus, usb does not work although the devices are registered and as mentioned there seem to be a conflict of irq's. I can't find a firmware debug knob, but setting debug.iwi=1 just adds two lines to the dmesg: iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 Thanks, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 --------------ms010705050901020503010401 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIL5jCC Be8wggPXoAMCAQICCQCNA1Uf/OBPDDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCBmTELMAkGA1UEBhMCRVMx GDAWBgNVBAoTD0RhZW1vbiBTZWN1cml0eTEeMBwGA1UECxMVQ2VydGlmaWNhdGUgQXV0aG9y 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sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC8643D45 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:20:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.248] (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k6SIKS9u000691 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <44CA556C.9080208@errno.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:20:28 -0700 From: Sam Leffler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> <44CA2CA1.3040801@locolomo.org> <44CA36FF.9070404@errno.com> <44CA3FD7.9040506@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44CA3FD7.9040506@locolomo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:20:30 -0000 Erik Nørgaard wrote: > Sam Leffler wrote: >> Erik Nørgaard wrote: >>> The new_iwi has not been backported to -stable yet. I tried to use just >>> the iwi-firmware-kmod port, disabling dhcp on that interface and >>> configuring manually, loading modules in order: firmware, iwi_bss and >>> if_iwi. >> Either you've mis-typed the above or you are incorrect. > > Sorry, I think I misunderstood it. I thought the objective of the > new_iwi was to get everything in base thus depreciating the installation > of net/iwi-firmware-kmod. The firmware has always been packaged separately because of licensing concerns. The work on the driver had many goals; only one of which was to eliminate the use of the user-mode tool to load microcode. > >>> Still, I can not get it working, output from dmesg: >>> >>> >>> iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 >>> at device 10.0 on pci6 >>> iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 >>> >>> This appears fine after I load if_iwi no further errors. But then >>> configuring with >>> >>> # ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP mode 11g channel 6 >>> >>> The following error appears: >>> >>> Interrupt storm detected on "irq5:"; throttling interrupt source >>> iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete >>> iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss >>> firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss >>> iwi0: could not load firmware >>> >>> I do get the interface configured but with "no carrier". I unload and >>> reload if_iwi and configure again: >>> >>> iwi0: detached >>> iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 >>> at device 10.0 on pci6 >>> iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 >>> firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss >>> iwi0: could not load firmware >>> >>> Note the interupt storm when the module is first loaded, but not the >>> second time. >>> >>> Why on irq 5 when the iwi0 is on irq 10? Looking at my devices, lspci -v >>> output below, there is an USB controler on irq 5 _and_ 10. Could some >>> with the iwi problems some how propagate? >>> >>> As seen below the bus is ICH6 based. >>> >>> Any hints? Thanks, Erik >> Figure out why you are not loading firmware properly. The firmware is >> packaged as normal loadable modules you can actually pre-load them using >> kldload. Check things loaded normally with kdlstat and/or check the >> console log msgs. My guess is you are not loading the correct firmware >> modules. I think there's a debugging knob/sysctl for firmware(9) but >> can't remember it off hand. > > First, the iwi_bss module is not loaded automatically if none of the > modules firmware, iwi_bss and if_iwi are present, > > # kldload if_iwi > > will load firmware, but not iwi_bss. No firmware is loaded until the device is brought up. if_iwi requires firmware(9) to load the firmware images so yes it is required that you configure it into your kernel. If you load if_iwi then it will drag it along as a dependency so if the module isn't installed you'll get complaints. > It does not change anything > manually loading firmware and/or iwi_bss before if_iwi or loading > iwi_bss after, manually configuring iwi0 with ifconfig always causes the > error: > > firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss > iwi0: could not load firmware If you do: kldload if_iwi kldload iwi_bss and then run kldstat do you see the iwi_bss.ko loaded? The above complaint means that iwi hit some problem loading the iwi_bss image. Typically this is because the file cannot be located on the filesystem but if you can manually load it then that should make it available regardless of where you have it sitting in the filesystem. Past that you need the debug knob to find out why iwi's request is failing. It appears noone's yet added such a knob to the firmware(9) code so one can only guess. > > I am wondering if this could be caused by the ICH6 bus? I have other > problems with the bus, usb does not work although the devices are > registered and as mentioned there seem to be a conflict of irq's. > > I can't find a firmware debug knob, but setting debug.iwi=1 just adds > two lines to the dmesg: > > iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 > iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete > iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss > iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 Ok, this looks more useful. It seems your card simply didn't start up fast enough (hopefully). Try editing the driver to increase the time it waits for the firmware to startup. Looks like it's line 2516 of if_iwi.c; change "hz" to something like 10*hz (10 seconds) and see if that helps. I've heard some complaints of problems like this. Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 20:09:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0372316A4DD for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F96E43D45 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:09:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6SK948k088476; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:09:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:43:17 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607281243.17331.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:09:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1624/Thu Jul 27 13:11:25 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Andreas Kohn Subject: Re: Intel i830M behind transparent AGP bridge? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:09:07 -0000 On Friday 28 July 2006 10:46, Andreas Kohn wrote: > Hi, > > a friend of mine has a laptop which has an Intel i830M chipset. > Linux recognizes the chip, and connects it to its agpgart. > FreeBSD* also recognizes the chip, but see it as connected to the pci > bus. This makes the drm parts fail to attach, as they require > (according to the code) the i830 to be attached as AGP chip. > > Is this a known problem, and even more, is there any known work-around > to achieve working drm with i830M in this setup? It should work fine in current, and possibly on 6.1-stable. You need 'device agp' in your kernel, and I think the patches in -stable as with drmsub the idea is that agp0 attaches to the PCI device and creates a drmsub0 child, and then the drm driver attaches to drmsub0. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 23:57:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54B016A4DD for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B4543D46 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:57:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 20691 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2006 09:57:48 +1000 Received: from 203-214-135-252.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.214.135.252) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 29 Jul 2006 09:57:48 +1000 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:57:43 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Martin Roos" Message-ID: <20060729095743.41902e2c@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:57:50 -0000 On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:19:42 +0200 "Martin Roos" wrote: > (for example acrobat reader can make "wonders" when it comes to > memory consumptions). :) indeed. xpdf works just fine 99.5% of the cases. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 29 05:44:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D469816A4DA for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 05:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A2743D49 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 05:44:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6T5ijJ5025596 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:44:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k6T5ijsb025595; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:44:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:44:36 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Ongoing problems with the "ath" interface - is any relief in sight?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 05:44:46 -0000 For several months now, the "ath" interface has been spazzing out at random times (in systems that are acting as wireless base stations). For example: Jul 28 21:44:47 ns kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) Jul 28 21:44:47 ns kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; hal status 3 Jul 28 21:45:08 ns kernel: ath0: device timeout Jul 28 21:45:08 ns kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) Jul 28 21:45:08 ns kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; hal status 3 [and then the interface stops working] %cat /etc/motd FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE (GENERIC) #6: Thu Jul 27 20:55:43 PDT 2006 The error isn't always the same, however. Often it is ath0: device timeout or ath0: discard frame w/o packet header or even arp: unknown hardware address format (0x4500) In each case, however, the "ath" interface stops working Immediately after the error report, so I don't believe that the latter two error reports are legitimate. I'm wondering it perhaps there's a memory smash somewhere that's corrupting some driver data structures (thereby causing bogus error reports in addition to stopping the interface from working)? The last time I asked about this, someone speculated that 'power save mode' was the culprit. Unfortunately, the system is running in a coffee shop that provides public WiFi, so it's not possible to stop clients from using power save mode. On my system, these errors are often happening several times a day. Has anyone else run into frequent problems like this, and is anyone looking into a solution? Ross. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 29 12:44:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E5016A4E0 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A4943D45 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:44:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.253] (unknown [192.168.0.253]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDC82E024; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:44:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CB5843.9030301@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:44:51 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060721) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam Leffler References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> <44CA2CA1.3040801@locolomo.org> <44CA36FF.9070404@errno.com> <44CA3FD7.9040506@locolomo.org> <44CA556C.9080208@errno.com> In-Reply-To: <44CA556C.9080208@errno.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000207000501000301040507" Cc: Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:44:57 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000207000501000301040507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sam Leffler wrote: > Erik Nørgaard wrote: > If you do: > > kldload if_iwi > kldload iwi_bss > > and then run kldstat do you see the iwi_bss.ko loaded? Yes > The above complaint means that iwi hit some problem loading the iwi_bss > image. Typically this is because the file cannot be located on the > filesystem but if you can manually load it then that should make it > available regardless of where you have it sitting in the filesystem. > Past that you need the debug knob to find out why iwi's request is > failing. It appears noone's yet added such a knob to the firmware(9) > code so one can only guess. That's what led me into try to figure out where it gets the firmware from in my first mail. >> iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 >> iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete >> iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss >> iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 > > Ok, this looks more useful. It seems your card simply didn't start up > fast enough (hopefully). Try editing the driver to increase the time it > waits for the firmware to startup. Looks like it's line 2516 of > if_iwi.c; change "hz" to something like 10*hz (10 seconds) and see if > that helps. I've heard some complaints of problems like this. Ok, thanks, I tried. Actually I tried setting it to both 10 and 100 just in case. But no luck. Replay of the attempt below, it seems that it makes no difference if if_iwi or iwi_bss is loaded first. Also, setting debug.iwi=1 seems only to add the iwi_newstate lines. I tried to set it to 2 to see if that would produce more output but no. (the complete dmesg after boot is at the end of the mail). photon# kldload if_iwi photon# kldload iwi_bss iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci6 iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 photon# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 6 1 0xc4e03000 d000 if_iwi.ko 7 1 0xc4e11000 30000 iwi_bss.ko photon# ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP photon# ifconfig iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid MYAP channel 1 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS photon# dmesg Interrupt storm detected on "irq5:"; throttling interrupt source iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss photon# kldunload iwi_bss photon# kldload iwi_bss photon# ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP channel 6 photon# ifconfig iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid MYAP channel 1 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS photon# dmesg iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss photon# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 6 1 0xc4e03000 d000 if_iwi.ko 7 1 0xc4e11000 30000 iwi_bss.ko photon# sysctl debug.iwi=1 debug.iwi: 0 -> 1 photon# ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP channel 6 photon# dmesg iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 photon# ifconfig iwi0 down photon# ifconfig iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid MYAP channel 1 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS photon# ifconfig iwi0 up photon# ifconfig iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 inet6 fe80::216:6fff:fe93:c975%iwi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid MYAP channel 1 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS photon# ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP channel 6 photon# ifconfig iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::216:6fff:fe93:c975%iwi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid MYAP channel 1 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS photon# dmesg iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss iwi0: could not load firmware iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 photon# kldunload if_iwi photon# dmesg iwi0: detached photon# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 7 1 0xc4e11000 30000 iwi_bss.ko photon# kldunload iwi_bss photon# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name photon# kldload iwi_bss photon# kldload if_iwi photon# ifconfig iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid "" channel 1 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS photon# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 7 1 0xc4e11000 30000 iwi_bss.ko 8 1 0xc4e03000 d000 if_iwi.ko photon# dmesg iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci6 iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 photon# ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP channel 6 dphoton# ifconfig iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid MYAP channel 1 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS photon# dmesg iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci6 iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss ... gave up. The above was with a custom kernel where I removed everything that did not seem necessary, keeping "device firmware" and "device wlan". I have just tried also with a GENERIC kernel and there is no difference at all. Trying to load/unload too many times can cause the system to crash hard - no nice page fault or kernel trap or anything, just a hard reboot. In /var/log/messages I found this: loaded if_iwi & iwi_bss for the n'th time, in this run, the if_iwi was modified to wait 100 sec: Jul 28 22:42:41 photon kernel: iwi0: mem 0xb01070 00-0xb0107fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci6 Jul 28 22:42:41 photon kernel: iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 ifconfig Jul 28 22:43:06 photon kernel: iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting MAC address to 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Configuring adapter Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting power mode to 0 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting RTS threshold to 2346 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting fragmentation threshold to 2346 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting .11bg supported rates (12) Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting .11a supported rates (0) Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting desired ESSID to "ChuecaWireless" Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting initialization vector to 1368112666 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting wep key index 0 len 0 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting wep key index 1 len 0 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting wep key index 2 len 0 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting wep key index 3 len 0 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Enabling adapter Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: iwi_newstate: INIT -> SCAN flags 0x5 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: iwi_newstate: SCAN -> SCAN flags 0x3 Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Start scanning Jul 28 22:43:58 photon kernel: iwi0: scan stuck Jul 28 22:43:58 photon kernel: iwi_newstate: SCAN -> INIT flags 0x0 reload if_iwi Jul 28 22:45:17 photon kernel: iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x4 Jul 28 22:45:17 photon kernel: iwi0: detached Jul 28 22:45:32 photon kernel: iwi0: mem 0xb01070 00-0xb0107fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci6 Jul 28 22:45:32 photon kernel: iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 crash. So, something is happening, the if_iwi seems to do what it can. I keep thinking that a conflict in the devices irq or other parameters may cause it to fail, the irq storm when the interface is first brought up seems to indicate such conflict. Any ideas how to test this? Are there any things that I can do to shed more light on the hardware/device config? Thanks, Erik Full dmesg after boot: Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #1: Fri Jul 28 22:58:11 CEST 2006 norgaard@photon.:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VAIO Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz (1729.02-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6d8 Stepping = 8 Features=0xafe9fbff Features2=0x180 AMD Features=0x100000 real memory = 1063845888 (1014 MB) avail memory = 1036279808 (988 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 cpu0 on motherboard pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: port 0x1800-0x1807 mem 0xb0080000-0xb00fffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xb0040000-0xb007ffff irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: detected 7932k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 256M drmsub0: : (child of agp_i810.c) on agp0 info: [drm] AGP at 0xb0080000 0MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 pci0: at device 2.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 5 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI 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failed to enable memory mapping! ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 ichsmb0: port 0x18a0-0x18bf irq 10 at device 31.3 on pci0 ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED] smbus0: on ichsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff,0xd0000-0xd0fff,0xdb800-0xdbfff,0xdc000-0xdffff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) speaker0: at port 0x61 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (memory) unknown: can't assign resources (memory) unknown: can't assign resources (memory) unknown: can't assign resources (irq) Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1729015465 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 95396MB at ata0-master SATA150 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 Trying to mount root from 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ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k6TFYFi7005795 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:34:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <44CB7FF7.3070805@errno.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:34:15 -0700 From: Sam Leffler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> <44CA2CA1.3040801@locolomo.org> <44CA36FF.9070404@errno.com> <44CA3FD7.9040506@locolomo.org> <44CA556C.9080208@errno.com> <44CB5843.9030301@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44CB5843.9030301@locolomo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:34:20 -0000 Erik Nørgaard wrote: > Sam Leffler wrote: >> Erik Nørgaard wrote: >> If you do: >> >> kldload if_iwi >> kldload iwi_bss >> >> and then run kldstat do you see the iwi_bss.ko loaded? > > Yes > >> The above complaint means that iwi hit some problem loading the iwi_bss >> image. Typically this is because the file cannot be located on the >> filesystem but if you can manually load it then that should make it >> available regardless of where you have it sitting in the filesystem. >> Past that you need the debug knob to find out why iwi's request is >> failing. It appears noone's yet added such a knob to the firmware(9) >> code so one can only guess. > > That's what led me into try to figure out where it gets the firmware > from in my first mail. > >>> iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 >>> iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete >>> iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss >>> iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 >> Ok, this looks more useful. It seems your card simply didn't start up >> fast enough (hopefully). Try editing the driver to increase the time it >> waits for the firmware to startup. Looks like it's line 2516 of >> if_iwi.c; change "hz" to something like 10*hz (10 seconds) and see if >> that helps. I've heard some complaints of problems like this. > > Ok, thanks, I tried. Actually I tried setting it to both 10 and 100 just > in case. But no luck. > > Replay of the attempt below, it seems that it makes no difference if > if_iwi or iwi_bss is loaded first. Also, setting debug.iwi=1 seems > only to add the iwi_newstate lines. I tried to set it to 2 to see if > that would produce more output but no. (the complete dmesg after boot is > at the end of the mail). > > photon# kldload if_iwi > photon# kldload iwi_bss > > iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 at > device 10.0 on pci6 > iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > > photon# kldstat > > Id Refs Address Size Name > 6 1 0xc4e03000 d000 if_iwi.ko > 7 1 0xc4e11000 30000 iwi_bss.ko > > photon# ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP > photon# ifconfig > > iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 > ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > ssid MYAP channel 1 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS > > photon# dmesg > > Interrupt storm detected on "irq5:"; throttling interrupt source > iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete > iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss > > photon# kldunload iwi_bss > photon# kldload iwi_bss > photon# ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP channel 6 > photon# ifconfig > > iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 > ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > ssid MYAP channel 1 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS > > photon# dmesg > > iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete > iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss > > photon# kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 6 1 0xc4e03000 d000 if_iwi.ko > 7 1 0xc4e11000 30000 iwi_bss.ko > photon# sysctl debug.iwi=1 > debug.iwi: 0 -> 1 > photon# ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP channel 6 > photon# dmesg > > iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 > firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss > iwi0: could not load firmware > iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 > > photon# ifconfig iwi0 down > photon# ifconfig > > iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 > ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > ssid MYAP channel 1 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS > > photon# ifconfig iwi0 up > photon# ifconfig > > iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 > inet6 fe80::216:6fff:fe93:c975%iwi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > ssid MYAP channel 1 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS > > photon# ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP channel 6 > photon# ifconfig > > iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > inet6 fe80::216:6fff:fe93:c975%iwi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 > ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > ssid MYAP channel 1 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS > > photon# dmesg > > iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 > firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss > iwi0: could not load firmware > iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 > iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 > firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss > iwi0: could not load firmware > iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 > > photon# kldunload if_iwi > photon# dmesg > > iwi0: detached > > photon# kldstat > > Id Refs Address Size Name > 7 1 0xc4e11000 30000 iwi_bss.ko > > photon# kldunload iwi_bss > > photon# kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > > photon# kldload iwi_bss > photon# kldload if_iwi > photon# ifconfig > > iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > ssid "" channel 1 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS > > photon# kldstat > > Id Refs Address Size Name > 7 1 0xc4e11000 30000 iwi_bss.ko > 8 1 0xc4e03000 d000 if_iwi.ko > > photon# dmesg > > iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 at > device 10.0 on pci6 > iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > > photon# ifconfig iwi0 10.35.4.64/24 ssid MYAP channel 6 > dphoton# ifconfig > > iwi0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > inet 10.35.4.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.35.4.255 > ether 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > ssid MYAP channel 1 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 protmode CTS > > photon# dmesg > > iwi0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb0107fff irq 10 at > device 10.0 on pci6 > iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > iwi0: timeout waiting for iwi_bss firmware initialization to complete > iwi0: could not load boot firmware iwi_bss > > ... gave up. The above was with a custom kernel where I removed > everything that did not seem necessary, keeping "device firmware" and > "device wlan". I have just tried also with a GENERIC kernel and there is > no difference at all. > > Trying to load/unload too many times can cause the system to crash hard > - no nice page fault or kernel trap or anything, just a hard reboot. In > /var/log/messages I found this: > > loaded if_iwi & iwi_bss for the n'th time, in this run, the if_iwi was > modified to wait 100 sec: > > Jul 28 22:42:41 photon kernel: iwi0: mem > 0xb01070 > 00-0xb0107fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci6 > Jul 28 22:42:41 photon kernel: iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > > ifconfig > > Jul 28 22:43:06 photon kernel: iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x0 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting MAC address to 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Configuring adapter > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting power mode to 0 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting RTS threshold to 2346 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting fragmentation threshold to 2346 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting .11bg supported rates (12) > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting .11a supported rates (0) > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting desired ESSID to "ChuecaWireless" > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting initialization vector to 1368112666 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting wep key index 0 len 0 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting wep key index 1 len 0 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting wep key index 2 len 0 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Setting wep key index 3 len 0 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Enabling adapter > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: iwi_newstate: INIT -> SCAN flags 0x5 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: iwi_newstate: SCAN -> SCAN flags 0x3 > Jul 28 22:43:52 photon kernel: Start scanning > Jul 28 22:43:58 photon kernel: iwi0: scan stuck > Jul 28 22:43:58 photon kernel: iwi_newstate: SCAN -> INIT flags 0x0 > > reload if_iwi > > Jul 28 22:45:17 photon kernel: iwi_newstate: INIT -> INIT flags 0x4 > Jul 28 22:45:17 photon kernel: iwi0: detached > Jul 28 22:45:32 photon kernel: iwi0: mem > 0xb01070 > 00-0xb0107fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci6 > Jul 28 22:45:32 photon kernel: iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:16:6f:93:c9:75 > > crash. So, something is happening, the if_iwi seems to do what it can. I > keep thinking that a conflict in the devices irq or other parameters may > cause it to fail, the irq storm when the interface is first brought up > seems to indicate such conflict. > > Any ideas how to test this? Are there any things that I can do to shed > more light on the hardware/device config? > > Thanks, Erik > > Full dmesg after boot: > > Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #1: Fri Jul 28 22:58:11 CEST 2006 > norgaard@photon.:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VAIO > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz (1729.02-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6d8 Stepping = 8 > > Features=0xafe9fbff > Features2=0x180 > AMD Features=0x100000 > real memory = 1063845888 (1014 MB) > avail memory = 1036279808 (988 MB) > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > cpu0 on motherboard > pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard > pci0: on pcib0 > agp0: port 0x1800-0x1807 > mem 0xb0080000-0xb00fffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xb0040000-0xb007ffff > irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci0 > agp0: detected 7932k stolen memory > agp0: aperture size is 256M > drmsub0: : (child of agp_i810.c) on agp0 > info: [drm] AGP at 0xb0080000 0MB > info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 > pci0: at device 2.1 (no driver attached) > pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) > uhci0: port > 0x1820-0x183f irq 5 at device 29.0 on pci0 > uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci1: port > 0x1840-0x185f irq 10 at device 29.1 on pci0 > uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) > pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 > pci6: on pcib1 > rl0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem > 0xb0104000-0xb01040ff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci6 > miibus0: on rl0 > rlphy0: on miibus0 > rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > rl0: Ethernet address: 00:13:a9:44:44:a8 > cbb0: mem 0xb0105000-0xb0105fff irq 10 at device > 9.0 on pci6 > cardbus0: on cbb0 > pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > pci6: at device 9.2 (no driver attached) > pci6: at device 9.3 (no driver attached) > pci6: at device 10.0 (no driver attached) > isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1870-0x187f at device 31.2 on pci0 > atapci0: failed to enable memory mapping! > ata0: on atapci0 > ata1: on atapci0 > ichsmb0: port 0x18a0-0x18bf irq 10 at device 31.3 on pci0 > ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > smbus0: on ichsmb0 > smb0: on smbus0 > orm0: at iomem > 0xc0000-0xcffff,0xd0000-0xd0fff,0xdb800-0xdbfff,0xdc000-0xdffff on isa0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > unknown: can't assign resources (port) > speaker0: at port 0x61 on isa0 > unknown: can't assign resources (memory) > unknown: can't assign resources (memory) > unknown: can't assign resources (memory) > unknown: can't assign resources (irq) > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1729015465 Hz quality 800 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > ad0: 95396MB at ata0-master SATA150 > acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a It sounds like an irq routing problem. The device is assigned irq 10 but it appears interrupts are coming in on irq5. This would explain why you don't get notified the firmware bringup completed. I can't help w/ the interrupt problem. Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 29 15:40:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1260416A503 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CD843D46 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:40:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.248] (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k6TFefWq005825 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:40:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <44CB8179.5050503@errno.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:40:41 -0700 From: Sam Leffler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ongoing problems with the "ath" interface - is any relief in sight?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:40:44 -0000 Ross Finlayson wrote: > For several months now, the "ath" interface has been spazzing out at > random times (in systems that are acting as wireless base stations). For > example: > > Jul 28 21:44:47 ns kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) > Jul 28 21:44:47 ns kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; > hal status 3 > Jul 28 21:45:08 ns kernel: ath0: device timeout > Jul 28 21:45:08 ns kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) > Jul 28 21:45:08 ns kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; > hal status 3 > [and then the interface stops working] > > > %cat /etc/motd > FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE (GENERIC) #6: Thu Jul 27 20:55:43 PDT 2006 > > The error isn't always the same, however. Often it is > ath0: device timeout > or > ath0: discard frame w/o packet header > or even > arp: unknown hardware address format (0x4500) > > In each case, however, the "ath" interface stops working Immediately > after the error report, so I don't believe that the latter two error > reports are legitimate. I'm wondering it perhaps there's a memory smash > somewhere that's corrupting some driver data structures (thereby causing > bogus error reports in addition to stopping the interface from working)? > > The last time I asked about this, someone speculated that 'power save > mode' was the culprit. Unfortunately, the system is running in a coffee > shop that provides public WiFi, so it's not possible to stop clients > from using power save mode. > > On my system, these errors are often happening several times a day. Has > anyone else run into frequent problems like this, and is anyone looking > into a solution? "stuck beacon" means the tx dma of the beacon frame failed to complete in a full beacon interval. Diagnosing such a problem requires understanding why dma failed to complete. This usually involves checking the dma descriptor for clues and/or looking at other h/w-related state. If you have a "memory smash" then you will see it in the descriptor contents--but I doubt it. In my experience this problem is usually caused by feeding bogus data to the dma engine that causes it to lockup but the problem in general is very complicated and not something I can diagnose remotely. Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 29 15:42:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413A016A4DD for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F6B43D4C for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:42:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.253] (unknown [192.168.0.253]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E1F2E024; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:41:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CB81C4.6080708@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:41:56 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060721) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam Leffler References: <44C8D7FE.4080108@locolomo.org> <44C905D3.4040208@locolomo.org> <200607271739.48433.jhb@freebsd.org> <44CA2CA1.3040801@locolomo.org> <44CA36FF.9070404@errno.com> <44CA3FD7.9040506@locolomo.org> <44CA556C.9080208@errno.com> <44CB5843.9030301@locolomo.org> <44CB7FF7.3070805@errno.com> In-Reply-To: <44CB7FF7.3070805@errno.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020904040705080702040108" Cc: Don Wilde , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem (maybe a solution) loading iwi firmware: firmware_get: failed to load firmware image iwi_bss X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:42:02 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020904040705080702040108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sam Leffler wrote: > It sounds like an irq routing problem. The device is assigned irq 10 > but it appears interrupts are coming in on irq5. This would explain why > you don't get notified the firmware bringup completed. I can't help w/ > the interrupt problem. Ok, thanks for taking your time! 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ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k6TGB28i005944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <44CB8896.30904@errno.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:11:02 -0700 From: Sam Leffler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson References: <44CB8179.5050503@errno.com> In-Reply-To: <44CB8179.5050503@errno.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ongoing problems with the "ath" interface - is any relief in sight?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:11:05 -0000 Sam Leffler wrote: > Ross Finlayson wrote: >> For several months now, the "ath" interface has been spazzing out at >> random times (in systems that are acting as wireless base stations). For >> example: >> >> Jul 28 21:44:47 ns kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) >> Jul 28 21:44:47 ns kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; >> hal status 3 >> Jul 28 21:45:08 ns kernel: ath0: device timeout >> Jul 28 21:45:08 ns kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) >> Jul 28 21:45:08 ns kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; >> hal status 3 >> [and then the interface stops working] >> >> >> %cat /etc/motd >> FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE (GENERIC) #6: Thu Jul 27 20:55:43 PDT 2006 >> >> The error isn't always the same, however. Often it is >> ath0: device timeout >> or >> ath0: discard frame w/o packet header >> or even >> arp: unknown hardware address format (0x4500) >> >> In each case, however, the "ath" interface stops working Immediately >> after the error report, so I don't believe that the latter two error >> reports are legitimate. I'm wondering it perhaps there's a memory smash >> somewhere that's corrupting some driver data structures (thereby causing >> bogus error reports in addition to stopping the interface from working)? >> >> The last time I asked about this, someone speculated that 'power save >> mode' was the culprit. Unfortunately, the system is running in a coffee >> shop that provides public WiFi, so it's not possible to stop clients >> from using power save mode. >> >> On my system, these errors are often happening several times a day. Has >> anyone else run into frequent problems like this, and is anyone looking >> into a solution? > > "stuck beacon" means the tx dma of the beacon frame failed to complete > in a full beacon interval. Diagnosing such a problem requires > understanding why dma failed to complete. This usually involves > checking the dma descriptor for clues and/or looking at other > h/w-related state. If you have a "memory smash" then you will see it in > the descriptor contents--but I doubt it. In my experience this problem > is usually caused by feeding bogus data to the dma engine that causes it > to lockup but the problem in general is very complicated and not > something I can diagnose remotely. BTW, the fact the subsequent reset failed with error 3 (HAL_EIO in ah.h) indicates you've got something more going on. But since you didn't provide any details on what you're doing it's hard to say if you've got a hardware problem. Presumably you've done basic things like swap out parts and/or try to reproduce the problem in a controlled environment. Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 29 19:03:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04ADF16A55E for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1D343EC8 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:02:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6TJ2t7s019791 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:02:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k6TJ2tGU019782; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:02:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <44CB8896.30904@errno.com> References: <44CB8179.5050503@errno.com> <44CB8896.30904@errno.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:02:43 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Re: Ongoing problems with the "ath" interface - is any relief in sight?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:03:24 -0000 >BTW, the fact the subsequent reset failed with error 3 (HAL_EIO in ah.h) >indicates you've got something more going on. But since you didn't >provide any details on what you're doing it's hard to say if you've got >a hardware problem. Presumably you've done basic things like swap out >parts and/or try to reproduce the problem in a controlled environment. Yes, I have seen these errors occur on two separate systems, with two different types of WiFi network hardware (but both using Atheros chips): kernel: ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) kernel: ath0: mem 0xe1020000-0xe102ffff irq 10 at device 18.0 on pci0 kernel: ath0: Ethernet address: 00:80:48:3c:6c:00 kernel: ath0: mac 10.5 phy 6.1 radio 6.3 kernel: ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) kernel: ath0: mem 0x41400000-0x4140ffff irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0 kernel: ath0: Ethernet address: 00:13:46:98:3b:13 kernel: ath0: mac 7.9 phy 4.5 radio 5.6 > > "stuck beacon" means the tx dma of the beacon frame failed to complete >> in a full beacon interval. Diagnosing such a problem requires >> understanding why dma failed to complete. This usually involves >> checking the dma descriptor for clues and/or looking at other >> h/w-related state. If you have a "memory smash" then you will see it in >> the descriptor contents--but I doubt it. In my experience this problem >> is usually caused by feeding bogus data to the dma engine that causes it >> to lockup but the problem in general is very complicated and not > > something I can diagnose remotely. Is there any patch that I could make to the code that could provide (for you) more informative error output when these errors occur? Ross. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 29 23:25:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2464216A4DD for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2C143D45 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:25:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6TNP26n083902 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:25:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k6TNP2oS083901; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:25:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:24:57 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Re: Ongoing problems with the "ath" interface - is any relief in sight?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:25:03 -0000 One more data point: These errors occur far more frequently when there are several different clients associated to the base station simultaneously. (E.g., today the errors occurred many times when there were up to 9 clients associated at one time. Has anyone else had experience using the "ath" interface (on FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE(hah!)) in hostap mode - i.e., as a base station? I find it difficult to believe that I'm the only person experiencing these problems. Again, if there's anything more I can to to help diagnose the problem, pelase let me know. Ross.