Date: 17 Feb 1998 08:35:34 -0600 From: stephen farrell <stephen@farrell.org> To: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@alexanderwohl.complete.org> Cc: stephen farrell <stephen@farrell.org>, John Kenagy <jktheowl@bga.com>, Vincent Defert <vdefert@trace.fr>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux Message-ID: <87yazapadl.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: John Goerzen's message of "Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:49:08 %2B0000 (GMT)" References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980216184712.524C-100000@alexanderwohl.cs.twsu.edu>
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John Goerzen <jgoerzen@alexanderwohl.complete.org> writes: > On 15 Feb 1998, stephen farrell wrote: > > > John Goerzen <jgoerzen@alexanderwohl.complete.org> writes: > > > > > minor. IMHO, the only exception to this is Debian's package management > > > system, which is far superior to FreeBSD's. However, there's nothing > > > > ???? What the freak are you talking about? Even debian advocates HATE > > it's package management system. If you switch that sentence to read: > > Stephen, > > As somebody that routinely monitors both Linux and FreeBSD mailing lists, > you are quite incorrect. Well, I have had nothing but pain using dselect, and nothing but pleasure using ports. And I KNOW that I am not alone. I was involved in a long thread about this a few months ago, and there were plenty of debian people who agreed that dselect was awful. if you really care, look it up on dejanews. I agree that freebsd binary packages are not always up-to-date, and this is bad. But ports is wonderful and extremely well maintained; much more than debian packages, and with cron and cvsup, I can find every package I ever want on my own disk and compile and install it with zero trouble. (I'm not sure why they don't have a cronjob running at fbsd to build packages of all of the ports...) I had a friend trying to install KDE beta 3 on a debian box. It was too much of a pain so he stopped--first you needed to track down all of the various packages it depends upon, install these, then run play wiht dpkg trying to guess which of the debian packages to install first. EVEN THOUGH THE PACKAGE IT NEEDED WAS IN THE CWD, DPKG DOESN'T FIND IT. So he just didn't bother. under freebsd (and do I need to remind you that kde is not officially supported under freebsd), I do cd /usr/ports/x11/kde make all install <wait a while> and I'm done. Here's another example. Install the latest GIMP under debian linux vs. under freebsd. w/freebsd: cd /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-devel make all install -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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