From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 14:29:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8C837B401; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vectors.cx (manifold.vectors.cx [66.180.241.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808FE43FD7; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:29:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: from vectors.cx (59a2ba288916bf6beeedecdab59418ba@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vectors.cx (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h3KLUSef058005; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: (from monkey@localhost) by vectors.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3KLUSrx058004; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:30:28 -0700 From: Adam Weinberger To: Joe Marcus Clarke Message-ID: <20030420213028.GA25227@vectors.cx> Mail-Followup-To: Adam Weinberger , Joe Marcus Clarke , David Yeske , ports@freebsd.org, petef@freebsd.org, Doug Barton References: <20030420002953.55575.qmail@web13503.mail.yahoo.com> <1050799770.13770.51.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20030420212022.GZ25227@vectors.cx> <1050873746.9550.23.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1050873746.9550.23.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> X-Editor: Vim 6.1 http://www.vim.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5 http://www.mutt.org X-PGP-Key: http://www.vectors.cx/pgp.key.txt X-URL: http://www.vectors.cx User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: David Yeske cc: ports@freebsd.org cc: Doug Barton Subject: Re: use_gnomeng X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 21:29:47 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> (04.20.2003 @ 1422 PST): Joe Marcus Clarke said, in 2.1K: << > > USE_{GTK,ESOUND,IMLIB} are still defined in bsd.gnome.mk. > > Still defined now for backwards compatibility. However, this won't > always be the case. USE_ESOUND and USE_IMLIB should be taken out of bsd.gnome.mk and should be excised from the ports tree stat, IMO. > > That being said, I do agree that USE_GTK and USE_GTK2 macros will make > > the learning curve a bit less steep. > > Now, sure...but as new releases come out, should we add USE_GTK3, > USE_GTK4...? I think it scales better to have the one system that > accepts a list of components rather than defining new macros everytime a > new API release comes out. Your point is well taken, except that the GTK libraries are ubiquitous compared to any other GNOME components. I think that the relative complexity of the USE_GNOME system as compared to "USE_GTK2=yes" is warranted for all other GNOME components, but I wonder if the extra-macros-to-support tradeoff is worth it for the relative ease of porting apps that simply utilize the toolkit. On the other hand, "USE_GNOME= gtk20" isn't all that difficult. I think it may be worth it to add a paragraph towards the top of the docs I'm hacking to spell out "If you want gtk2 libs, do this." # Adam - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx >> adam@vectors.cx FreeBSD.org << adamw@FreeBSD.ORG #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+oxF0o8KM2ULHQ/0RAhl8AKDcf9XNpPQpK26GZ0HOsnoDn+Q5JQCeOfbk 5oZJA5+DR/ycQNHcWGbAUfo= =x3pA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----