From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 9 16:19:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B4837B409; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 16:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g59NJKHc001233 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Jun 2002 01:19:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g59NJKSA059774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jun 2002 01:19:20 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g59NJJ7Q059773; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 01:19:19 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 01:19:19 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha boot1 UFS support: HELP NEEDED! Message-ID: <20020609231919.GF39774@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <49229.1023279349@critter.freebsd.dk> <20020605122552.GJ66505@cicely5.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020605122552.GJ66505@cicely5.cicely.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:25:53PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:15:49PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > Somebody who has an alpha at hand needs to make the alpha boot1 code > > use sys/boot/common/ufsread.c before June 19th where the UFS2 patch > > is scheduled to be committed. > > I'll take a look into this during the next WE. Not much success so far. ufsread.c triggers several size limitations on alpha. 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YOURS SINCERELY DR OLU ADAMS ______________________________________________________ Make your opinions heard with IPSOS - http://www.iap-interactive.com/lycosu6 The funniest email attachments on the web - http://viral.lycos.co.uk Free domain names - http://webcentre.lycos.co.uk --=_NextPart_Caramail_0168901023679902_ID-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 9 22:54: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13D437B40F for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g5A5s3W45949 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:54:03 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 39 From: Makoto Matsushita To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD/alpha 5-current distribution on snapshots.jp.FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:54:00 +0900 Message-Id: <20020610145400L.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've started FreeBSD/alpha 5-current distribution (ftp installable distribution, bootable ISO images, etc) at snapshots.jp.FreeBSD.org. It is built on an i386 box, using cross-compile mechanism recently introduced by ru. Note that FreeBSD/alpha build starts every odd day except day 31, 15:00 JST (03:00 GMT), and current directory layout is as follows: % pwd ~ftp/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha % /bin/ls -F 5-LATEST@ livetree/ 5.0-CURRENT-20020607-JPSNAP/ log/ 5.0-CURRENT-20020609-JPSNAP/ obj/ ISO-IMAGES/ % /bin/ls -F ISO-IMAGES/ 5.0-CURRENT-20020607-JPSNAP.iso 5.0-CURRENT-20020609-JPSNAP.iso CHECKSUM.MD5 bootonly-5.0-CURRENT-20020607-JPSNAP.iso bootonly-5.0-CURRENT-20020609-JPSNAP.iso bootonly-current.iso@ cdboot-5.0-CURRENT-20020607-JPSNAP.iso cdboot-5.0-CURRENT-20020609-JPSNAP.iso cdboot-current.iso@ current.iso@ live-5.0-CURRENT-20020607-JPSNAP.iso live-5.0-CURRENT-20020609-JPSNAP.iso live-current.iso@ % Caution: I have no Alpha box (!!!) so I can't test these distribution. It may work or may not work. Comments, suggestions, etc, are always welcome. If you have any of them, please email to buildadm@jp.FreeBSD.org. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 9 23:26:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.systec.no (box80-64-196-210.sdsl.no [80.64.196.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D87D37B40F for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 23:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skywalker.systec.no (isa.systec.no [192.168.100.3]) by relay.systec.no (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5A6Qd306100; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:26:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oystein.andreassen@systec.no) Received: by skywalker.systec.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:26:28 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein_Andreassen?= To: "'Schroeder, Aaron'" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Alpha 2100 -CURRENT install (WAS:RE: DigitalServer 5305 insta ll r evisited...) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:26:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's something wrong with the MyLex driver. I have tried EVERYTHING (I think) to make the driver work with a 3 channel MyLex card with firmware 2.73. It will not work! After a few % the controller reports hundreds of errors. I have tried on a=20 1 channel MyLex controller also and, if i don't remember wrong,=20 it worked fine. Same firmware. Strange... =D8ystein -----Original Message----- From: Schroeder, Aaron [mailto:Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 17:46 To: 'Andrew Gallatin' Cc: Schroeder, Aaron; 'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org' Subject: Alpha 2100 -CURRENT install (WAS:RE: DigitalServer 5305 = install r evisited...) This is just a follow-up mail, or an FYI as it were. I mentioned that I would try to install 5.0-CURRENT onto a "non-white" alpha to see if I = get the same behavior.=20 For those of you who don't remember, I was trying to install 5.0 onto a white "NT-only" DigtalServer 5305 with a mylex card, when the installer = was copying files from CD or FTP, the copy rate would just degrade down to = a halt, and the install stops. When I am on a non-RAID card, everything installs fine. Well, on this 2100, I tried to install 5.0DP1 onto it with a Mylex = array, it displays the same type of behavior as the 5305 did. I do remember = loading 4.2 onto this 2100 with a Mylex array, but that was some time ago. In = either case, it doesn't work on a "real" alphaserver or a "NT-Only" = alphaserver under 5.0DP1. From what I understand about CURRENT, it is no where = close to release code so I expect things not to work under that version. I will = try 4.5 to see if the install completes or not. Where do I go from there? A PR Perhaps? AJ Schroeder -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Gallatin [mailto:gallatin@cs.duke.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:53 PM To: Schroeder, Aaron Cc: Schroeder, Aaron; 'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org' Subject: RE: DigitalServer 5305 install revisited... Schroeder, Aaron writes: > Per your suggestion, I set 'hw.physmem=3D512M' at the boot prompt. = To no > avail, so, I took 1.5GB of RAM out of the box and CPU1. It boots to = the Define "no avail" Does it still see 2GB of ram? Still crap out in the same way as before? > point of initializing the SCSI card (it has one of those combo SCSI/Network > Cards), needless to say, BSD fails with a timeout style warning. I = do not > have the console output from that error, I can provide it if you = wish. Known problem on 4x00 or 1200 series machines with sym cards. The problem is in the way we handle multiple hoses (what DEQ calls peer buses). Fixed in 5.0, if you want to try 5.0DP1. > Anyway, I plug in a DAC960 and a DE500 NIC, create a raid, boot the server > from CD. It boots to setup. I commence installing BSD, I create my > filesystems, select my distribution set, select my media as the CD. = The > files start installing, and then setup hangs (Extracting bin into / > directory, to be exact). I reset the machine, boot the CD, repeat = said > install procedure, but this time I select FTP as the media. Same = thing, it > gets to a certain percentage and dies. I have tried it about 6 times using > each method, CD or Network. >=20 > It fails/hangs in a different spot every time to further complicate = this > issue. Sometimes it gets to 17%, 23%, 49% was the highest it went. = One thing > I do notice is that the transfer speed shoots up real high, then = trails off > to nothing then craps out. >=20 > Weird. I thought it was the internal SCSI bus of the server, that's = what > prompted me to try the FTP install, then that died. Well, any = suggestions > would be of great help to me. That's truly bizzare. Maybe some people with RAID expertise have some ides. 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This is a PCI card. I physically put the card in the Alpha 500au pws last night. I then proceeded to boot the OS. The SRM made 1 longish beep followed by 3 short beeps...AND a black screen with no SRM. Is there something else I need to do ? Thanks - Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 11 0:38:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9A837B407 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 00:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5B7cMSN000702; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:38:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5B7cMa4000701; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:38:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:38:22 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Wilkinson,Alex" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha pws 500au and Matrox Millennium G450 (PCI) Message-ID: <20020611093822.B645@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020611105008.I21224-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020611105008.I21224-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au>; from Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au on Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:56:42AM +0930 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.6-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:56:42AM +0930, Wilkinson,Alex wrote: > Howdy Crew, > > I have bought a Matrox Millennium G450 dual head Video Card for my Alpha pws 500au. > This is a PCI card. > > > I physically put the card in the Alpha 500au pws last night. > > I then proceeded to boot the OS. The SRM made 1 longish beep followed by 3 short beeps...AND > a black screen with no SRM. > > Is there something else I need to do ? In which slot is it? If not in a 64 bit PCI slot please try it in that one. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 11 1:28:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cassandra.coredump.at (cassandra.coredump.at [194.235.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DAB537B407 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8016 invoked by uid 1007); 11 Jun 2002 08:33:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:33:49 +0200 From: rupp@coredump.at To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha pws 500au and Matrox Millennium G450 (PCI) Message-ID: <20020611103349.A8003@cassandra.coredump.at> References: <20020611105008.I21224-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> <20020611093822.B645@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020611093822.B645@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 09:38:22AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 09:38:22AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: ---[G450 in PWS]--- > In which slot is it? If not in a 64 bit PCI slot please try it in that one. Why? I thought that with the PWS you can only use those cards in the 64bit slots that SRM "knows"?! This is actually also my experience. The machine does not accept "unknown" cards in 64bit slots, while they may run fine in 32bit slots. Wolfgang Rupp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 11 1:42:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAEB37B404 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5B8gISN000983; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:42:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5B8gIu3000982; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:42:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:42:18 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: rupp@coredump.at Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha pws 500au and Matrox Millennium G450 (PCI) Message-ID: <20020611104217.A968@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020611105008.I21224-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> <20020611093822.B645@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020611103349.A8003@cassandra.coredump.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020611103349.A8003@cassandra.coredump.at>; from rupp@coredump.at on Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:33:49AM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.6-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:33:49AM +0200, rupp@coredump.at wrote: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 09:38:22AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > ---[G450 in PWS]--- > > In which slot is it? If not in a 64 bit PCI slot please try it in that one. > > Why? I thought that with the PWS you can only use those cards in the Because I have seen SRM refusing to initialise when I did not have the VGA card in the 64 bit slot. > 64bit slots that SRM "knows"?! This is actually also my experience. > The machine does not accept "unknown" cards in 64bit slots, while they > may run fine in 32bit slots. > > Wolfgang Rupp ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 11 6:59:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta05.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta05.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEFB37B407 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pootah ([63.60.5.63]) by mta05.mail.mel.aone.net.au with SMTP id <20020611135943.LCWK25063.mta05.mail.mel.aone.net.au@pootah>; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:59:43 +1000 Message-ID: <000001c2114f$14781da0$0b64a8c0@pootah> From: "Rob B" To: , "Wilko Bulte" Cc: References: <20020611105008.I21224-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> <20020611093822.B645@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020611103349.A8003@cassandra.coredump.at> Subject: Re: Alpha pws 500au and Matrox Millennium G450 (PCI) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:29:46 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: Alpha pws 500au and Matrox Millennium G450 (PCI) > On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 09:38:22AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > ---[G450 in PWS]--- > > In which slot is it? If not in a 64 bit PCI slot please try it in that one. > > Why? I thought that with the PWS you can only use those cards in the > 64bit slots that SRM "knows"?! This is actually also my experience. > The machine does not accept "unknown" cards in 64bit slots, while they > may run fine in 32bit slots. Definately not the case. I have both a Matrox Millenium II and an Elsa GLoria XL in the 64 bit slots on a PWS, and both FreeBSD and Linux boot fine. I am pretty sure that what you mention is only the case for VMS and Tru64. Cheers, Rob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 11 7:16:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A05537B400 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5BEGAHc027011 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:16:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5BEGBSA071667 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:16:11 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5BEGAiO071666; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:16:10 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:16:10 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "Wilkinson,Alex" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha pws 500au and Matrox Millennium G450 (PCI) Message-ID: <20020611141609.GL62541@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20020611105008.I21224-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> <20020611093822.B645@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020611093822.B645@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 09:38:22AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:56:42AM +0930, Wilkinson,Alex wrote: > > Howdy Crew, > > > > I have bought a Matrox Millennium G450 dual head Video Card for my Alpha pws 500au. > > This is a PCI card. > > > > > > I physically put the card in the Alpha 500au pws last night. > > > > I then proceeded to boot the OS. The SRM made 1 longish beep followed by 3 short beeps...AND > > a black screen with no SRM. > > > > Is there something else I need to do ? > > In which slot is it? If not in a 64 bit PCI slot please try it in that one. What does the PWS manual say about the beep codes? If the card isn't supported by SRM I would expect it to be ignored. Possible that the PCI chip's self test failed. Can you test the card in another machine? You might also want to check if the system has a jumperable system clock divisor. E.g. my PC164 has a changeable crystal for CPU clock and you have to select the clock divisor acordingly. You could have overclocked the PCI bus without even knowing that on such systems. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 11 9:38:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADD937B40C for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5BGbrJn021560; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5BGbpdg021559; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:37:51 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Rob B Cc: rupp@coredump.at, Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha pws 500au and Matrox Millennium G450 (PCI) Message-ID: <20020611093751.A21492@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20020611105008.I21224-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> <20020611093822.B645@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020611103349.A8003@cassandra.coredump.at> <000001c2114f$14781da0$0b64a8c0@pootah> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000001c2114f$14781da0$0b64a8c0@pootah>; from rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au on Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 09:29:46PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Why? I thought that with the PWS you can only use those cards in the > > 64bit slots that SRM "knows"?! This is actually also my experience. > > The machine does not accept "unknown" cards in 64bit slots, while they > > may run fine in 32bit slots. > > Definately not the case. I have both a Matrox Millenium II and an Elsa > GLoria XL in the 64 bit slots on a PWS, and both FreeBSD and Linux boot > fine. I am pretty sure that what you mention is only the case for VMS and > Tru64. No, what he says is true -- it is an SRM issue, thus one that happens before any OS is loaded and affects us all. Also Matrox Millenium II and Elsa GLoria XL are well known by the Miata SRM. 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Maintenance Tips 3397cbdK3-252Ooxd0050yrGV9-387Mq-30 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 0102 01:34:21 -0200 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C3_37C44A1A.B4572C37" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_37C44A1A.B4572C37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SWYgeW91ciBob21lIGlzIHNlcnZlZCBieSBhIHNlcHRpYyBzeXN0ZW0sIHlv dSBhcmUNCmFibGUgdG8gcmVjZWl2ZSBpbnZhbHVhYmxlIGluZm9ybWF0aW9u IG9uIGhvdyB0bw0KZWxpbWluYXRlIHB1bXAgb3V0cywgaG93IHRvIG1haW50 YWluIHRoZSBzeXN0ZW0NCnByb3Blcmx5IGFuZCBjdXJlIHByb2JsZW1zIHN1 Y2ggYXMgYmFja3Vwcywgd2V0IHNwb3RzLA0Kb2RvciwgZXRjLiAtLSAgRk9S IEZSRUUhDQoNCllvdSBjYW4gZG8gdGhpcyBieSBjaGVja2luZyBvdXQgb3Vy IHNpdGUgYXQ6IA0KDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnNwYzg3MDg1LmNvbS8NCg0KSW4g YWRkaXRpb24sIHlvdSB3aWxsIGhhdmUgdGhlIG9wcG9ydHVuaXR5IHRvDQpw YXJ0aWNpcGF0ZSBpbiBhIGZyZWUgdHJpYWwgcHJvZ3JhbSB0byB0ZXN0IHRo ZQ0KZWZmZWN0aXZlbmVzcyBvZiBvdXIgcHJvZHVjdCwgSU4gWU9VUiBPV04g U1lTVEVNLiANCg0KUGxlYXNlIGNoZWNrIHVzIG91dC4NCg0KVGhhbmsgeW91 Lg0KDQpTaW5jZXJlbHksDQoNClNQQw0KDQpQLlMuIFJlbWVtYmVyLCB5b3Ug bXVzdCBjbGljayBvbiB0aGlzIGxpbmsgdG8gcmVjZWl2ZQ0KdGhpcyBoZWxw ZnVsIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIQ0KDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnNwYzg3MDg1LmNvbS8N Cg0KDQoNClRvIGJlIHJlbW92ZWQgZnJvbSBvdXIgZW1haWwgbGlzdCBwbGVh c2UgY2xpY2sgb24gdGhlIGxpbmsgYmVsb3cuDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnNwYzg3 MDg1LmNvbS9yZW1vdmUuaHRtbA0KNDk4NXJybVczLTMyOWxMdlYyODQ5c0Fy QTUtOTQ3Q2NlejA4MDJoWFBGNy00NjNuUldMNDM1NURRVkMyLTIwNXBZdFI4 ODA0bDY4 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 11 19:24:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E5137B405 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monica.cs.rpi.edu (monica.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.7.3]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA61924 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from monica.cs.rpi.edu (crossd@localhost) by monica.cs.rpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5C2OXj90747 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:24:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from crossd@monica.cs.rpi.edu) Message-Id: <200206120224.g5C2OXj90747@monica.cs.rpi.edu> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: building boot/loader Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:24:33 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I need to build a custom boot/loader to test a fix (this is on beast FWIW) I do the following: cd /dir/src/sys/boot; make that completes with no errors. I then take the resulting alpha/netboot/netboot code and copy it to my system and attempt to boot. The result is the system resets after loading the code with no errors. This is before I make any changes, what am I doing wrong? -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Lab Director | Rm: 308 Lally Hall Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 11 19:52:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E258C37B411 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g5C2pOS06946 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:21:24 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:22:41 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id MAA14702; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:19:02 +0930 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MLWBG3FW; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:19:15 +0930 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:09:54 +0930 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "Wilkinson,Alex" , Subject: Re: Alpha pws 500au and Matrox Millennium G450 (PCI) In-Reply-To: <20020611093822.B645@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20020612120907.X18856-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've heard that is a dangerous thing to do and can break things ? - aW On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:56:42AM +0930, Wilkinson,Alex wrote: In which slot is it? If not in a 64 bit PCI slot please try it in that one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 11 19:58: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF9037B401 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g5C2ubS07343 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:26:37 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:27:50 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id MAA13729; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:20:25 +0930 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MLWBG3F6; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:20:38 +0930 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:11:17 +0930 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: rupp@coredump.at Cc: Wilko Bulte , Subject: Re: Alpha pws 500au and Matrox Millennium G450 (PCI) In-Reply-To: <20020611103349.A8003@cassandra.coredump.at> Message-ID: <20020612121039.Q18856-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That was my understanding also. - aW Why? I thought that with the PWS you can only use those cards in the 64bit slots that SRM "knows"?! This is actually also my experience. The machine does not accept "unknown" cards in 64bit slots, while they may run fine in 32bit slots. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 11 20: 7:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta04.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045DD37B406; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.67.234]) by mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20020612030748.NEUO27618.mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au>; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:07:48 +1000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020612122740.01bf2240@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:08:51 +1000 To: obrien@freebsd.org From: Rob B Subject: Re: Alpha pws 500au and Matrox Millennium G450 (PCI) Cc: rupp@coredump.at, Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020611093751.A21492@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <000001c2114f$14781da0$0b64a8c0@pootah> <20020611105008.I21224-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> <20020611093822.B645@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020611103349.A8003@cassandra.coredump.at> <000001c2114f$14781da0$0b64a8c0@pootah> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:37 12/06/2002, David O'Brien sent this up the stick: > > > Why? I thought that with the PWS you can only use those cards in the > > > 64bit slots that SRM "knows"?! This is actually also my experience. > > > The machine does not accept "unknown" cards in 64bit slots, while they > > > may run fine in 32bit slots. > > > > Definately not the case. I have both a Matrox Millenium II and an Elsa > > GLoria XL in the 64 bit slots on a PWS, and both FreeBSD and Linux boot > > fine. I am pretty sure that what you mention is only the case for VMS and > > Tru64. > >No, what he says is true -- it is an SRM issue, thus one that happens >before any OS is loaded and affects us all. Also Matrox Millenium II and >Elsa GLoria XL are well known by the Miata SRM. While the Matrox might be known, the Elsa card is not. The GLoria Synergy is known to SRM, but not the XL. As an aside, but could be related, I was having all sorts of problems with my Miata under Linux using the GLoria XL card, ie: it took nearly 10 minutes to boot, and threw up machine checks whenever I changed virtual terminals or the screenblanker kicked in. These problems do not occur under FreeBSD. I swapped the Elsa out for a Millenium II and the machine checks no longer occur. Weird. cheers, Rob -- Actors will happen in the best-regulated families. [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian This is random quote 134 of a collection of 1251 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jun 12 2:33:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBDA37B40A for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5C9XDHc040717 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:33:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5C9XuSA078005 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:33:56 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5C9XtUA078004; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:33:55 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:33:55 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: "David E. Cross" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: building boot/loader Message-ID: <20020612093355.GT62541@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <200206120224.g5C2OXj90747@monica.cs.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200206120224.g5C2OXj90747@monica.cs.rpi.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:24:33PM -0400, David E. Cross wrote: > I need to build a custom boot/loader to test a fix (this is on beast FWIW) > I do the following: > > cd /dir/src/sys/boot; make > > that completes with no errors. I then take the resulting alpha/netboot/netboot > code and copy it to my system and attempt to boot. The result is the system > resets after loading the code with no errors. This is before I make any > changes, what am I doing wrong? What do you mean by reset - does it really begin with selftest, or do you just see an SRM prompt again? In the later case you normaly get the PC register dumped. If it is zero you might want to 'e ra' to get the last return address. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jun 12 6:24: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx.unesp.br (armstrong.unesp.br [200.145.1.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3D337B406 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Spamassassin Check (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.unesp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317CF5C2D8 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:23:58 -0300 (BRT) Received: from civitate.ai.unesp.br (civitate.ai.unesp.br [200.145.2.12]) by mx.unesp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5245C2D8 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:23:57 -0300 (BRT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:20:07 -0300 (BRT) From: Eduardo Damato X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Hard Disk not found Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests= version=2.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All! This is my first message to this list. I currently have 5 DS20 alphaservers running alpha linux, and am quite unhappy with it because of memory leakage, stateful netfilter problems and many unaligned traps... So I am thinking of taking up FreeBSD on my servers to see how it works. The problem is that I am now having problems with installing it on the DS20s ... I boot normally with FreeBSD for Alpha CD, but when I try to find the HDs the installation program reports that no HD was found in the system. This is very strange since SRM reports dbk100 and dkb200 as present on the system. Does anybody have any ideas on how to get the hds recognized? Is there any tweaks to be applied? Do I have to set any special variable on SRM to have them found? Thanks for your help, Eduardo. -- Eduardo Damato Network Analyst - GRC Assessoria de Informática - UNESP Brazil email: damato@unesp.br fone: (11) 252-0577 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jun 12 7:45:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07F937B401 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5CEjVSm042956 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:45:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5CEkXFJ079643 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:46:33 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5CEkW9e079642; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:46:32 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:46:32 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Eduardo Damato Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hard Disk not found Message-ID: <20020612144631.GD78644@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:20:07AM -0300, Eduardo Damato wrote: > This is my first message to this list. I currently have 5 DS20 > alphaservers running alpha linux, and am quite unhappy with it because of > memory leakage, stateful netfilter problems and many unaligned traps... > So I am thinking of taking up FreeBSD on my servers to see how it works. > The problem is that I am now having problems with installing it on > the DS20s ... > I boot normally with FreeBSD for Alpha CD, but when I try to find the HDs > the installation program reports that no HD was found in the system. This > is very strange since SRM reports dbk100 and dkb200 as present on the > system. > Does anybody have any ideas on how to get the hds recognized? Is there any > tweaks to be applied? Do I have to set any special variable on SRM to have > them found? You need to wipe out the partitiontable. Linux does something that FreeBSD's sysinstall doesn't like. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jun 12 7:52:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF2837B405 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from code-fu.com (pcp711718pcs.alxndr01.va.comcast.net [68.50.73.228]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 13 2002)) with ESMTP id <0GXL0020BLA29S@mtaout06.icomcast.net> for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:49:32 -0400 From: "Michael A. Smith" Subject: Re: Hard Disk not found To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3D075F7C.3000104@code-fu.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020509 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.49.5.0 References: <20020612144631.GD78644@cicely5.cicely.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:20:07AM -0300, Eduardo Damato wrote: >>This is my first message to this list. I currently have 5 DS20 >>alphaservers running alpha linux, and am quite unhappy with it because of >>memory leakage, stateful netfilter problems and many unaligned traps... >>So I am thinking of taking up FreeBSD on my servers to see how it works. >>The problem is that I am now having problems with installing it on >>the DS20s ... >>I boot normally with FreeBSD for Alpha CD, but when I try to find the HDs >>the installation program reports that no HD was found in the system. This >>is very strange since SRM reports dbk100 and dkb200 as present on the >>system. >>Does anybody have any ideas on how to get the hds recognized? Is there any >>tweaks to be applied? Do I have to set any special variable on SRM to have >>them found? > > You need to wipe out the partitiontable. > Linux does something that FreeBSD's sysinstall doesn't like. I had similar problems when I switched from SuSE to FreeBSD. The BSD slice from the earlier SuSE install did not work with FreeBSD. Really wiping everything and starting from scratch solved the problem. I'm running FreeBSD on aMiata and a Server 3300 and it runs perfectly! Good luck!!! -- Michael A. Smith Programmer at Large To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jun 13 4: 5:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C77737B410 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 04:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cartman ([213.107.250.133]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020613110145.YUQZ295.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@cartman>; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:01:45 +0100 From: "Steven" To: "'Eduardo Damato'" Cc: Subject: RE: Hard Disk not found Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:01:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c212c9$b5e33cd0$0201a8c0@cartman> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Does anybody have any ideas on how to get the hds recognized? Is there any >tweaks to be applied? Do I have to set any special variable on SRM to have >them found? I had the same problem with my alphastations which previously ran Linux and Tru64. For future reference it's generally more helpful if you provide more information about a problem, such as a verbose boot output (assuming you are using a serial console and can cut'n'paste). If however your problem is that once you start sysinstall you get: da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 da0c: start 0, end 4294967295, size 0 da0: raw partition size != slice size da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 da0c: start 0, end 4294967295, size 0 da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic or something similar then: lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq Message qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk xNo disks found! Please verify that your disk controller is being x xproperly probed at boot time. See the Hardware Guide on the x xDocumentation menu for clues on diagnosing this type of problem. x tqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq(100%)qqu x [ OK ] x mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq[ Press enter or space ]qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj you need to wipe the partition tables on the disk. I tried doing this from the fixit prompt using the cd but it didn't work. If you still have a *nix os on the disk the boot it up and do: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=10240 count=10 (where da0 is the disk to do). If not, you will need to stick it in another system or find a friend with one. The install went fine after that for me. The machine has been fairy stable in the 3 months I've had it, although it has crashed a couple of times whilst running mysql under heavy load. Steven To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jun 13 4:21: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D3337B437 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 04:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5DBHVSm055837 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:17:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5DBI5FJ085889 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:18:05 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5DBI4K4085888; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:18:04 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:18:04 +0200 From: Bernd Walter Cc: "'Eduardo Damato'" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hard Disk not found Message-ID: <20020613111803.GI80030@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <000001c212c9$b5e33cd0$0201a8c0@cartman> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c212c9$b5e33cd0$0201a8c0@cartman> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 12:01:46PM +0100, Steven wrote: > (where da0 is the disk to do). If not, you will need to stick it in > another system or find a friend with one. The install went fine after > that for me. The machine has been fairy stable in the 3 months I've had > it, although it has crashed a couple of times whilst running mysql under > heavy load. Can you say more about the crashes? -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jun 13 4:45:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cluster.oleane.net (smtp1.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A937937B41D for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 04:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from free.fr (Loisir-gestion.rain.fr [194.206.177.250]) by smtp1.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id g5DBJ0f36894 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:19:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3D088073.1000007@free.fr> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:22:27 +0200 From: ANTOINE Pierre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr-FR; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: AlphaServer 2100A Booting from Mini FreeBSD 4.5 ISO References: <000001c212c9$b5e33cd0$0201a8c0@cartman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Some banking company gave an AlphaServer 2100A to my school, and the sysadmin ask me to install a free OS on it. Debian can't boot. I've try Mini-Freebsd 4.5 ISO booting CD from the SRM. The loader go fine to a shell ("press enter to boot or a key to shell") but without changing anything, the boot freeze with an error message about identification after that. Is there any issue know with 2100A. Need I set a special option at the shell or should I use a special kernel version. In the last case, if someone can tell me where I can find such binary (I don't have any freebsd installed at this time, even on i386) . Thanks in advance for your help, Best regards, ANTOINE Pierre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jun 13 5:27:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx.unesp.br (armstrong.unesp.br [200.145.1.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FAF37B431 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Spamassassin Check (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.unesp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2D75C2AF; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:27:49 -0300 (BRT) Received: from civitate.ai.unesp.br (civitate.ai.unesp.br [200.145.2.12]) by mx.unesp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEE15C2AF; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:27:48 -0300 (BRT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:23:56 -0300 (BRT) From: Eduardo Damato X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: Hard Disk not found In-Reply-To: <20020612144631.GD78644@cicely5.cicely.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=8.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:20:07AM -0300, Eduardo Damato wrote: > > This is my first message to this list. I currently have 5 DS20 > > alphaservers running alpha linux, and am quite unhappy with it because of > > memory leakage, stateful netfilter problems and many unaligned traps... > > So I am thinking of taking up FreeBSD on my servers to see how it works. > > The problem is that I am now having problems with installing it on > > the DS20s ... > > I boot normally with FreeBSD for Alpha CD, but when I try to find the HDs > > the installation program reports that no HD was found in the system. This > > is very strange since SRM reports dbk100 and dkb200 as present on the > > system. > > Does anybody have any ideas on how to get the hds recognized? Is there any > > tweaks to be applied? Do I have to set any special variable on SRM to have > > them found? > > You need to wipe out the partitiontable. > Linux does something that FreeBSD's sysinstall doesn't like. Thank you Guys! You were right, I booted the system with linux and wiped the partition table, and then FreeBSD found all hard disks. Now I have already installed it 4.5 and am trying to learn more about this OS. BTW, does anyone know when 4.6 is getting released for alpha? Thanks Again! Eduardo > > -- Eduardo Damato Analista de Redes - GRC Assessoria de Informática - UNESP email: damato@unesp.br fone: (11) 252-0577 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jun 13 5:46:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from qescan1.qgraph.com (QESCAN1.qgraph.com [206.158.124.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24C9F37B421 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.200.28 by qescan1.qgraph.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:45:26 -0500 Received: by sxsmtp1.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:45:25 -0500 Message-ID: <4AB507918F78D611BA4200010333060279C3C7@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'Steven' , 'Eduardo Damato' Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Hard Disk not found Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:45:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Another trick is to use chmod and exer from the SRM if you wish to erase disks in order for FreeBSD to see them. Here is a typical command: chmod +w dka* exer -a w dka* & (It may error on the CD drive, depending on your config) That's it! Your disk(s) are now being "exercised" by the SRM. That actually starts with the first sector and wipes out the disk sectors by sector. It is an early version of DILX, for those of you familiar with Compaq storage. To check to see if exer is running, do a 'show_status' and see if exer has a PID, if so, then you can type 'init' and then proceed to install. One thing to note, if you want to kill a single drive instead of every disk that starts with dka like in the example, you will have to 'ls' and then find the "file" that the disk is associated with (ex. dkb0.2.0000.0) Then substitute dka* with the "filename" of your disk. HTH, AJ Schroeder -----Original Message----- From: Steven [mailto:steven@trance.org] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:02 AM To: 'Eduardo Damato' Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Hard Disk not found >Does anybody have any ideas on how to get the hds recognized? Is there any >tweaks to be applied? Do I have to set any special variable on SRM to have >them found? I had the same problem with my alphastations which previously ran Linux and Tru64. For future reference it's generally more helpful if you provide more information about a problem, such as a verbose boot output (assuming you are using a serial console and can cut'n'paste). If however your problem is that once you start sysinstall you get: da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 da0c: start 0, end 4294967295, size 0 da0: raw partition size != slice size da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 da0c: start 0, end 4294967295, size 0 da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic or something similar then: lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq Message qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk xNo disks found! Please verify that your disk controller is being x xproperly probed at boot time. See the Hardware Guide on the x xDocumentation menu for clues on diagnosing this type of problem. x tqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq(100%)qqu x [ OK ] x mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq[ Press enter or space ]qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj you need to wipe the partition tables on the disk. I tried doing this from the fixit prompt using the cd but it didn't work. If you still have a *nix os on the disk the boot it up and do: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=10240 count=10 (where da0 is the disk to do). If not, you will need to stick it in another system or find a friend with one. The install went fine after that for me. The machine has been fairy stable in the 3 months I've had it, although it has crashed a couple of times whilst running mysql under heavy load. Steven To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jun 13 6:50:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7105C37B481 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5DDjRSm057184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:45:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5DDkAFJ086780 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:46:10 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5DDk9Zj086779; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:46:09 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:46:08 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: "Schroeder, Aaron" Cc: "'Steven'" , "'Eduardo Damato'" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hard Disk not found Message-ID: <20020613134608.GO80030@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <4AB507918F78D611BA4200010333060279C3C7@waexch1.qgraph.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AB507918F78D611BA4200010333060279C3C7@waexch1.qgraph.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 07:45:19AM -0500, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > Another trick is to use chmod and exer from the SRM if you wish to erase > disks in order for FreeBSD to see them. Here is a typical command: > > chmod +w dka* > exer -a w dka* & (It may error on the CD drive, depending on your config) > > That's it! Your disk(s) are now being "exercised" by the SRM. That actually > starts with the first sector and wipes out the disk sectors by sector. It is > an early version of DILX, for those of you familiar with Compaq storage. Cool - thanks for the information. > To check to see if exer is running, do a 'show_status' and see if exer has a > PID, if so, then you can type 'init' and then proceed to install. > > One thing to note, if you want to kill a single drive instead of every disk > that starts with dka like in the example, you will have to 'ls' and then > find the "file" that the disk is associated with (ex. dkb0.2.0000.0) Then > substitute dka* with the "filename" of your disk. You seem to know a bit on SRMs disk capabilities. Is it possible for you (or someone else on the list) to explain the following device path: pka0.7.0.1001.0 ? It's configured in an AS600 for which the SRM console password is not available. Every atempt to clear that password has been failed. I already thought about unsoldering the NVRAM. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jun 13 8:19:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4380D37B43E for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 08:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05420; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g5DFIQq16937; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:18:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15624.47042.375518.197715@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:18:26 -0400 (EDT) To: ANTOINE Pierre Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100A Booting from Mini FreeBSD 4.5 ISO In-Reply-To: <3D088073.1000007@free.fr> References: <000001c212c9$b5e33cd0$0201a8c0@cartman> <3D088073.1000007@free.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (Please wrap your text at 72 columns) ANTOINE Pierre writes: > Hi all, > > Some banking company gave an AlphaServer 2100A to my school, and the > sysadmin ask me > to install a free OS on it. Debian can't boot. I've try Mini-Freebsd 4.5 > ISO booting CD > from the SRM. The loader go fine to a shell ("press enter to boot or a > key to shell") > but without changing anything, the boot freeze with an error message > about identification > after that. A 2100A should work fine, assuming all the hardware in the box is supported. Can you please describe the hardware more fully (transcribe the output of the command "show dev" at the SRM console prompt >>>). Also, please give the EXACT error message you see "about identification" A transcription of everything you see when the machine boots would be best. It would be easiest to get this using a serial console. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jun 13 11:16: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aromo.spock.cl (aromo.spock.cl [200.27.125.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEEF37B40B for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spock.cl (multia.spock.cl [200.27.125.107]) by aromo.spock.cl (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g5DIFVi66762 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:15:32 -0400 (CLT) Message-ID: <3D0873AE.3050706@spock.cl> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:27:58 -0400 From: Roberto de Iriarte User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100A Booting from Mini FreeBSD 4.5 ISO References: <000001c212c9$b5e33cd0$0201a8c0@cartman> <3D088073.1000007@free.fr> <15624.47042.375518.197715@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: >(Please wrap your text at 72 columns) > >ANTOINE Pierre writes: > > Hi all, > > > > Some banking company gave an AlphaServer 2100A to my school, and the > > sysadmin ask me > > to install a free OS on it. Debian can't boot. I've try Mini-Freebsd 4.5 > > ISO booting CD > > from the SRM. The loader go fine to a shell ("press enter to boot or a > > key to shell") > > but without changing anything, the boot freeze with an error message > > about identification > > after that. > >A 2100A should work fine, assuming all the hardware in the box is >supported. Can you please describe the hardware more fully >(transcribe the output of the command "show dev" at the SRM console >prompt >>>). > > I can confirm that 2100A's work fine under 4.5 as long as the rest of the system is supported (i'm typing this on one) Regards Roberto To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jun 14 8:42: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from qescan1.qgraph.com (QESCAN1.qgraph.com [206.158.124.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7BD637B415 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.200.28 by qescan1.qgraph.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:40:58 -0500 Received: by sxsmtp1.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:40:58 -0500 Message-ID: <4AB507918F78D611BA4200010333060279C3F0@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: "'ticso@cicely.de'" Cc: 'Steven' , 'Eduardo Damato' , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Hard Disk not found Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:40:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I haven't forgotten about you. I have the "official" digital documentation sitting at home that describes in great detail as to what each of those numbers means. I will reference that and see what it exactly means and get back to you. I don't want to lead you down the wrong path, but here is my initial guess: Your device pka0.7.1001.0 is a SCSI card on the first bus, SCSI ID 7. You may have to play around with it, but if you 'sho pka*' SRM will sho your settings of that SCSI card on your system. From there, you can modify the host id, the SCSI mode, and you can enable/disable soft-termination. The same holds true with network cards. I know here, my network guys force all servers to 100/Full. If I 'sho ewa*' I get a ton of options to set on the network card, I just play with the duplexing settings rather then play around with ifconfig. BSD takes what the SRM gives it as far as network card settings. About the password, 'ls' on your SRM, are there any commands in there similar to 'clear_nvram' or 'clear_srm_rom' or 'clear_arc'? I seem to remember seeing that on a Alpha box that I was playing around with. Here is what I can remember off the top of my head about SRM devices: dkaX - SCSI disk devices on the first bus, other disks on secondary busses are dkbX, dkcX, dkdX, etc. dqaX - IDE device on the first bus, other busses are dqbX, dqcX, etc. dvaX - Floppy ewaX - NIC, other NICs are ewbX, ewcX, etc. pkaX - SCSI card on the first SCSI bus. Other busses are pkbX, pkcX, etc. pqaX - First IDE controller, other controllers are pqbX, pqcX, etc. mkaX - Tape drive Good luck. HTH, AJ Schroeder -----Original Message----- From: Bernd Walter [mailto:ticso@cicely5.cicely.de] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:46 AM To: Schroeder, Aaron Cc: 'Steven'; 'Eduardo Damato'; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hard Disk not found On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 07:45:19AM -0500, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > Another trick is to use chmod and exer from the SRM if you wish to erase > disks in order for FreeBSD to see them. Here is a typical command: > > chmod +w dka* > exer -a w dka* & (It may error on the CD drive, depending on your config) > > That's it! Your disk(s) are now being "exercised" by the SRM. That actually > starts with the first sector and wipes out the disk sectors by sector. It is > an early version of DILX, for those of you familiar with Compaq storage. Cool - thanks for the information. > To check to see if exer is running, do a 'show_status' and see if exer has a > PID, if so, then you can type 'init' and then proceed to install. > > One thing to note, if you want to kill a single drive instead of every disk > that starts with dka like in the example, you will have to 'ls' and then > find the "file" that the disk is associated with (ex. dkb0.2.0000.0) Then > substitute dka* with the "filename" of your disk. You seem to know a bit on SRMs disk capabilities. Is it possible for you (or someone else on the list) to explain the following device path: pka0.7.0.1001.0 ? It's configured in an AS600 for which the SRM console password is not available. Every atempt to clear that password has been failed. I already thought about unsoldering the NVRAM. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jun 14 9:11: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3392137B405 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5EGAjSm073590 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:10:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5EGAxFJ095869 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:11:00 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5EGAx2d095868; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:10:59 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:10:59 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: "Schroeder, Aaron" Cc: "'ticso@cicely.de'" , "'Steven'" , "'Eduardo Damato'" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hard Disk not found Message-ID: <20020614161058.GB93218@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <4AB507918F78D611BA4200010333060279C3F0@waexch1.qgraph.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AB507918F78D611BA4200010333060279C3F0@waexch1.qgraph.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 10:40:56AM -0500, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > I haven't forgotten about you. > > I have the "official" digital documentation sitting at home that describes > in great detail as to what each of those numbers means. I will reference > that and see what it exactly means and get back to you. > > I don't want to lead you down the wrong path, but here is my initial guess: > > Your device pka0.7.1001.0 is a SCSI card on the first bus, SCSI ID 7. You > may have to play around with it, but if you 'sho pka*' SRM will sho your > settings of that SCSI card on your system. From there, you can modify the > host id, the SCSI mode, and you can enable/disable soft-termination. I know that pka is a SCSI channel, but which disk does it mean? I don't know what the 1001 mean. I can't show anything without entering the right password first. The point is that I want to setup a drive which matches the already configured (and unchangeable) bootpath. > The same holds true with network cards. I know here, my network guys force > all servers to 100/Full. If I 'sho ewa*' I get a ton of options to set on > the network card, I just play with the duplexing settings rather then play > around with ifconfig. BSD takes what the SRM gives it as far as network card > settings. > > About the password, 'ls' on your SRM, are there any commands in there > similar to 'clear_nvram' or 'clear_srm_rom' or 'clear_arc'? I seem to > remember seeing that on a Alpha box that I was playing around with. That's chicken-egg - you can't use these commands without entering the old password first. SRM is *very* restricted without entering the right password. Some Documentation (for other machines) mention a mechanism using the halt key, but that doesn't work for this box - neither seriel nor vga. > Here is what I can remember off the top of my head about SRM devices: > > dkaX - SCSI disk devices on the first bus, other disks on secondary > busses are dkbX, dkcX, dkdX, etc. > dqaX - IDE device on the first bus, other busses are dqbX, dqcX, > etc. > dvaX - Floppy > ewaX - NIC, other NICs are ewbX, ewcX, etc. > pkaX - SCSI card on the first SCSI bus. Other busses are pkbX, pkcX, > etc. > pqaX - First IDE controller, other controllers are pqbX, pqcX, etc. > mkaX - Tape drive I know - but that didn't helped me setting up a drive that matches pka0.7.1001.0. What puzzles me is that to bootpath is configured to a controller plus parameters instead of just e.g. dka0. > On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 07:45:19AM -0500, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > You seem to know a bit on SRMs disk capabilities. > Is it possible for you (or someone else on the list) to explain the > following device path: pka0.7.0.1001.0 ? > It's configured in an AS600 for which the SRM console password is not > available. > Every atempt to clear that password has been failed. > I already thought about unsoldering the NVRAM. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jun 14 13:10: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52F137B416 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g5EKA1n49631; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from nwww.freebsd.org (www.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E62537B40D for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nwww.freebsd.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5EK3shG082078 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g5EK3swZ082077; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200206142003.g5EK3swZ082077@www.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:03:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Hogsett To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: alpha/39305: Alpha Kernel Build for Miata dies if no `device sio0' Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 39305 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: Alpha Kernel Build for Miata dies if no `device sio0' >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 14 13:10:01 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Hogsett >Release: 4.6-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD axp.csl.sri.com 4.6-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 13 17:30:11 PDT 2002 root@axp.csl.sri.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/AXP alpha >Description: With the following in a kernel config file : options DEC_ST550 #device sio0 The kernel build will fail with cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -I../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 vers.c linking kernel dec_st550.o: In function `st550_cons_init': dec_st550.o(.text+0x124): undefined reference to `comconsole' dec_st550.o(.text+0x134): undefined reference to `siocnattach' dec_st550.o(.text+0x138): undefined reference to `siocnattach' *** Error code 1 >How-To-Repeat: Comment out `device sio0' in the kernel config file. >Fix: I recommend a comment stating that the serial device(s) are required. *** GENERIC.patched Fri Jun 14 13:00:16 2002 --- GENERIC Thu Jun 13 10:22:45 2002 *************** device sc0 at isa? *** 119,125 **** # real time clock device mcclock0 at isa? port 0x70 ! # Serial (COM) ports (required) device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 flags 0x50 --- 119,125 ---- # real time clock device mcclock0 at isa? port 0x70 ! # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 flags 0x50 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jun 14 13:21: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D4D37B404; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mjacob@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g5EKL1E51281; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:21:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:21:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200206142021.g5EKL1E51281@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hogsett@csl.sri.com, mjacob@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: alpha/39305: Alpha Kernel Build for Miata dies if no `device sio0' Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Alpha Kernel Build for Miata dies if no `device sio0' State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mjacob State-Changed-When: Fri Jun 14 13:20:32 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Applied suggested fix to GENERIC. Will MFC as soon as -stable opens up. Thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=39305 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jun 15 8:18:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from arcor.de (ACB1BCC7.ipt.aol.com [172.177.188.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF5D437B40F for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 08:17:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "todschick38259@arcor.de" To: Subject: Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Störung! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:18:10 +0200 Reply-To: "todschick38259@arcor.de" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020615151743.EF5D437B40F@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Störung! Mir ist etwas zu Ohren gekommen. Eine relativ aussergewöhnliche Gerüchteküche, aus der man mir ein schwerverdauliches Süppchen vorgesetzt hat, ist der Grund meiner Mail. Unappetitlich ist gar kein Ausdruck! Ist es möglich auf funktechnischem Wege(in welchen Frequenzbereichen?) jemanden zu beeinflussen oder zu manipulieren? Oder sogar zu schikanieren und terrorisieren? Unter dem Motto:"Einen am Sender?Nich ganz alleine? Kleine Mannim Ohr?Falsche Wellenlänge?Bohnen in den Ohren? Auf den Zahn gefühlt(Amalgam)?Mal unverbindlich reinhören? Der Pullacher Wanzentanz? Ist das Spinnerei?Das geht doch gar nicht,oder? Und wenn wie sieht das ethisch moralisch aus? Zur technischen Seite der Sache gibt es zwar Berichte und Webseiten: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. ,aber,das kann doch nicht sein,das soetwas gemacht wird,oder? Eine Menschenrechtsverletzung sonder gleichen!?! Ist es möglich,durch Präparation,der Ohren und im Zusammenspiel mit eventuell vorhandenem Zahnersatz? Mit relativ einfacher Funktechnik?? In diesem Land?Hier und heute??? Unter welchen Motiven? Wo ist eigentlich die Abteilung 5 des BND und des Verfassungsschutzes? Kann es sein,daß es Leute gibt,die dem BND/Verfassungsschutz,auf funktechnischem Wege permanent einen Situationsbericht abliefern,ohne es selbst zu merken,im Kindesalter machbar gemacht?? Werden durch solche inoffiziellen Mitarbeiter,beim BND und Verfassungsschutz,nach Stasimanier, Informationen von und über,rein theoretisch, jeden Bundesbürger,gesammelt? Gibt es dann noch ein Recht auf Privatsphere? Wer kontrolliert eigentlich den BND,MAD und Verfassungsschutz auf Unterwanderung??? In der Mail geht es mir eigentlich um die Frage,ob es kriminellen Elementen, aus dem Motiv der Bereicherung,oder Gruppierungen aus ideologischen Motiven, möglich ist ,sich Wissen und Technik anzueignen,die zu anderen Zeiten, aus anderen Motiven(Westfernsehen?),entwickelt wurde. Und stellt der technische Wissensstand, der der Allgemeinheit bekannt ist wirklich das Ende der Fahnenstange dar? Ist es denn nicht kriminellen Elementen genauso möglich, ich sage das jetzt mal verharmlost und verniedlichend, einzelne Personen oder Gruppen mit relativ einfachen Mitteln, aus welchen Motiven auch immer, auszuspionieren? Und stellt diese "Ausspioniererei" nicht einen erheblichen Eingriff in die Privatsphäre dar? Ist es möglich einzelne Personen oder Gruppen, eine Akzeptans einer gewissen Öffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), die z.B. mit Hilfe von Internetseiten,wie zum Beispiel dem "Pranger"geschaffen werden könnte, mal vorausgestzt,zu terroriesieren und oder zu schikanieren, und das in aller (suggerierten)Öffentlichkeit?Haben die Leute die da am Pranger, oder auf irgendeiner anderen Seite verunglimpft,oder gar Verleumdet werden, eigentlich eine Chance zur Gegenöffentlichkeit?Ist das nicht Rufmord? Vor einigen Jahren bin ich per Zufall auf die Seite "Der Pranger" gestoßen, damals lief das noch nicht unter dem Deckmantel der Partnervermittlung. Können sich einzelne Personen,oder Interessengemeinschaften, aus reinem Selbstzweck,solcher Seiten bedienen, um unter dem Deckmantel einer fragwürdigen Zivilkourage, durch anzetteln irgendwelcher Hetzkampagnen,eigene, ganz persöhnliche Interessen durchsetzen? Können solche Seiten zur Koordination von kriminellen machenschaften dienen? Die Frage,ist es Möglichkeit oder Unmöglichkeit,technisch und gesellschaftlich, einzelne Personen,oder auch Gruppierungen,aus einer kriminellen/ideologischen Energei heraus,zu manipulieren oder zu beeinflussen,terrorisieren oder zu schickanieren,und zwar gezielt. Zielgruppenmanipulation durch Massenmedien sind alltägliche Manipulation, der mansich,mehr oder weniger,entziehen kann. Wird das Recht auf Privatsphäre,schleichend,tiefenpsychologisch, durch Sendungen,wie,zum Beispiel "Big brother",untergraben? Sollte bei einem der Angemailten ein gewisser Wissensstand zum Thema vorhanden sein, wäre ich über Hinweise zum Thema froh. Auf der Suche nach Antworten auf meine Fragen maile ich verschiedene Adressen aus dem Internet an, und hoffe aufkonstruktive Antworten und Kritiken. Über einen Besuch auf der Seite würde ich mich freuen. Sollten Sie von mir mehrfach angeschrieben worden sein,so bitte ich Sie,mir dies zu entschuldigen, das war nicht beabsichtigt. Der Grund für meine Anonymität ist die Tatsache, daß bei derlei Fragenstellerei, verständlicherweise,schnell der Ruf nach der Psychatrie laut wird. Was auch Methode hat(ist). Sollten Sie die Mail als Belästigung empfinden, möchte ich mich hiermit dafür entschuldigen! Big brother is watching you? Excuse please the disturbance! Me something came to ears. A relatively unusual rumor kitchen, from which one put forward to me a heavydigestible soup, is the reason of my Mail. Unappetizing is no printout! Is it possible on radio Wege(in for which frequency ranges?) to influence or manipulate someone? Terrorize or to even chicane and? Under the Motto:"Einen at the Sender?Nich quite alone? Small Mannim Ohr?Fal Wellenlaenge?Bohnen in the ears? On the tooth clean-hear gefuehlt(Amalgam)?Mal witthout obligation? The Pullacher bug wanzentanz? Isn't the Spinnerei?Das goes nevertheless at all, or? And if as looks ethicalally morally? For the technical page of the thing there is to report and web page: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. but, that cannot be nevertheless, which is made soetwas, or? A violation of human rights resemble special!?! Is it possible, by preparation, the ears and in interaction with possibly available artificial dentures? With relatively simple radio engineering?? In this Land?Hier and today??? Under which motives? Where is the department actually 5 of the BND and the protection of the constitution? Can it be that there are people, which deliver the Federal Intelligence Service/protection of the constitution, on radio way permanently a situation report, without noticing it, in the infancy feasiblly made? By such unofficial coworkers, with the BND and protection of the constitution, after Stasimanier, is information collected of and over,purely theoretically, each Federal citizen? Is there then still another right to Privatsphere? Who actually checks the BND, WAD and protection of the constitution for infiltration??? Into the Mail actually concerns it to me the question whether it criminal items, from which motive of enriching, or groupings from ideological motives is possible, to acquire itself knowledge and technique which were developed at other times, from other Motiven(Westfernsehen?).And does the technical knowledge status place, to that the public admits is really the end of the flag bar? Is it not to criminal items just as possible, I legend that now times played down and does nice-end, individual persons or groups with relatively simple means, to spy from whatever motives always? And doesn't this " Ausspioniererei " represent a substantial intervention into the privatsphaere? It is possible individual persons or groups, one acceptance to of a certain Oeffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), e.g. by Internet pages, how for example the " Pranger"geschaffen could become, times vorausgestzt, to terroriesieren and or chicane, and in everything (the people suggerierten)Oeffentlichkeit?Haben there at the Pranger, or on any other page to be reviled, or slandered, actually a chance to the Gegenoeffentlichkeit?Ist that not character assassination? Some years ago I am by coincidence the page " the Pranger " encountered, at that time ran not yet under the cover of the partner switching.Itself can individual persons, or communities of interests, from pure self purpose, such pages to serve, over under the cover of a doubtful Zivilkourage, through plot any rushing campaigns, own, quite persoehnliche interests to intersperse? Can such pages serve for the co-ordination of criminal machinations? The question, is it possibility or impossibility, technically and socially, individual persons, or also groupings of manipulating or of influencing from an criminal/ideological Energei, terrorizes or to schickanieren, directed.Target group manipulation by mass media are everyday manipulation, from which, more or less, can extract itself. Does the right to privatsphaere, creeping, by transmissions become deep psychological, how, for example " Big undermine brother"? If the Angemailten should be available a certain knowledge status to the topic with one, I would be glad over notes to the topic On the search for responses to my questions maile I different addresses from the Internet on, and hope up-constructional responses and criticisms.Over an attendance on the page wuerde I are pleased.If you should have been written down by me several times, then please I you to excuse me this that was not intended. The reason for my anonymity is the fact that with such Fragenstellerei, understandably, fast after the call the Psychatrie loud becomes. Which also method hat(ist). If you should feel the Mail as annoyance, I would like to apologize hereby for it! Big is watching you? Veuillez excuser le dérangement! Moi quelque chose concernant des oreilles est venu. Une cuisine de bruit relativement inhabituelle, dont on m'a placé un Sueppchen schwerverdauliches devant, est la raison de mes Mail.Aucune expression n'est peu appétissante! Il est possible sur un Wege(in funktechnischem pour quelles réponses fréquentielles?) quelqu'un influencer ou manipuler? Ou même schikanieren et terroriser? Sous le Motto:"Einen au Sender?Nich tout à fait seulement? Petits Mannim Ohr?Falsche Wellenlaenge?Bohnen dans les oreilles? Sur la dent gefuehlt(Amalgam)?Mal non contraignant reinhoeren? Le Pullacher Wanzentanz? Le Spinnerei?Das n'est-il quand même pas du tout va, ou? Et si comme cela paraît éthiquement moralement? Au côté technique de la chose, il y a certes des rapports et des Webseiten: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. toutefois qui ne peut quand même pas être qui on fait soetwas, ou? Une violation des droits de l'homme séparer ressembler!?! Il est possible, par la préparation, des oreilles et dans l'effet avec la prothèse dentaire éventuellement existante? Avec la technique de radio relativement simple?? Dans ce Land?Hier et aujourd'hui Sous quels motifs? Où le département est-il en réalité 5 du BND et de la protection d'constitution? peut il être qu'il y a les personnes qui livrent en permanence le BND/Verfassungsschutz, de manière funktechnischem un rapport de situation, sans le remarquer le -même , dans l'enfance rendu possible?? Par de tels collaborateurs officieux, avec le BND et la protection d'constitution, après manière, des informations sont-elles rassemblées et plus de, purement théoriquement, chaque citoyen allemand? Il y a alors encore un droit à des Privatsphere? Qui contrôle en réalité le BND, mad et protection d'constitution sur une infiltration??? Il s'agit en réalité dans le Mail me la question de savoir si lui éléments criminels, dont le motif de l'enrichissement, ou de groupements des motifs idéologiques, possible de s'acquérir le savoir et la technique qui à d'autres temps, est autre MotivenEt place-t-il le savoir technique dont le public vraiment la fin la barre de drapeau a connaissance ? Il n'est pas donc exactement la même chose possible pour des éléments criminels, moi cela maintenant fois verharmlost et minimisant une légende, personnes ou groupes particuliers avec des moyens relativement simples, de quels motifs aussi toujours, auszuspionieren?(Westfernsehen?), a été développé. Et ce "Ausspioniererei" ne représente-t-il pas une intervention considérable dans la vie privée? Il est possible personnes ou groupes particuliers, pour certain Oeffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), celui p. ex. à l'aide des côtés Internet, comme par exemple "le Pranger"geschaffen pourrait, fois vorausgestzt schikanieren terroriesieren et ou , et qui toute (suggerierten)Oeffentlichkeit?Haben les personnes ceux là, ou d'un autre côté verunglimpft, ou on ne pas calomnie, en réalité une chance au Gegenoeffentlichkeit?Ist qui meurtre d'appel? Il y a quelques années, je ne suis pas encore par hasard sur le côté "celui" poussé, fonctionnais alors cela sous la couche de pont de l'entremise partenaire. Des personnes particulières, ou des communautés d'intérêts le peuventelles, d'un autobut pur, de tels côtés servent, sous la couche de pont d'un Zivilkourage douteux, tracent plus de des campagnes de précipitation, propres intérêts tout à fait persoehnliche entremêlent? De tels côtés peuvent-ils servir à la coordination des manoeuvres criminelles? Question, est lui possibilité ou impossibilité de manipuler ou d'influencer techniquement et socialement, particulière personnes, ou aussi groupements, criminelle/ponctuel idéologique Energei dehors, , terroriser ou schickanieren, et ce.Une manipulation de groupe cible par des masse-médias être la manipulation quotidienne qui peut extraire mansich, plus ou moins. Le droit à la vie privée est-il miné, ramment, tiefenpsychologisch, par des envois, comme, par exemple "des Big brother"? Avec un les Angemailten si un certain savoir devait exister sur le thème, je serais heureux sur des indications sur le thème.Sur la recherche des réponses à mes questions je différentes adresses maile d'Internet dessus, et espère réponses et critiques aufkonstruktive. Sur une visite du côté http://hometown.aol.de/reinerhohn38259/homepage/index.html> je me réjouirais. Si vous deviez avoir été écrit à différentes reprises par moi, je vous demande de m'excuser cela qui n'était pas envisagé. La raison de mon anonymat est le fait qu'avec telle des Fragenstellerei, l'appel devient ce qui est bien compréhensible, rapidement bruyant après le Psychatrie. Ce que la méthode a également (ist). Si vous deviez ressentir les Mail comme un ennui, je voudrais m'excuser par ceci pour cela! Big brother is watching you? Könnte mir jemand bei der korrekten Überstzung helfen? Could someone help me with the correct translation? Quelqu'un pourrait-il m'aider lors du Ueberstzung correct? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jun 15 12:19:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFEA37B410 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5FJJ6P8007136; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:19:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5FJJ5Cp007135; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:19:05 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Eduardo Damato Cc: ticso@cicely.de, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hard Disk not found Message-ID: <20020615121905.B6971@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020612144631.GD78644@cicely5.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from damato@unesp.br on Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 09:23:56AM -0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 09:23:56AM -0300, Eduardo Damato wrote: > BTW, does anyone know > when 4.6 is getting released for alpha? Soon. ;-) USENIX this week is kind of getting in the way as all of the RE team is at the conference (or on vacation). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jun 15 18:17: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-56.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CFC37B40F for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C042E66D51; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:16:59 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: COMPAT_{LINUX,OSF1} on 4.x Message-ID: <20020615181659.A5713@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Is there a reason these options were not MFC'ed to 4.x? The linux/osf1 emulators can be loaded as modules in 4.x, but they cannot be compiled statically into the kernel. Kris --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9C+cKWry0BWjoQKURAke+AJ4752F9bQlXP/n24qx816K0zi0eawCgyfzJ DHO2r91ShrLGdgJygFZm5kE= =kWjU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message