From owner-freebsd-security Fri Jan 21 20: 8:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A3715704 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:08:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jared@puck.nether.net) Received: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA09941; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:08:15 -0500 (envelope-from jared) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:08:15 -0500 From: Jared Mauch To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Jared Mauch , Brett Glass , Warner Losh , Darren Reed , security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stream.c worst-case kernel paths Message-ID: <20000121230815.A9928@puck.nether.net> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Dillon , Brett Glass , Warner Losh , Darren Reed , security@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200001210417.PAA24853@cairo.anu.edu.au> <200001210642.XAA09108@harmony.village.org> <4.2.2.20000121163937.01a51dc0@localhost> <200001220035.QAA65392@apollo.backplane.com> <20000121200829.E4055@puck.nether.net> <200001220118.RAA65802@apollo.backplane.com> <20000121221736.A9396@puck.nether.net> <200001220356.TAA66875@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200001220356.TAA66875@apollo.backplane.com>; from dillon@apollo.backplane.com on Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 07:56:51PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 07:56:51PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > : There is a major chicken and egg scenario here. Multicast > :is not useful because it is not deployed. But people don't deploy it because > :they don't see it as useful, because people don't use it much because > :they feel they can't reach everyone. > : > : This needs to change, but this is not the correct fourm for that > :change. > :... > : > : - jared > > No, it is not deployed because of a lack of interest. Lots of people > are interested. We went through all that at BEST ... Except for > Alternet none of the backbones were willing to even contemplate > multicast routing (pim or anything else) because they simply had no > way to manage their network bandwidth (to handle it) *OR* to bill for it. > > The situation hasn't changed. Hmm. Verio has it deployed. So does Globalcenter. Hmm. Guess they're not important. -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine. END OF LINE | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message