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Date:      Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:36:24 +1000 (EST)
From:      Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
To:        perryh@pluto.rain.com
Cc:        Martin McCormick <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: How to be an imap Client?
Message-ID:  <20110423153335.H43371@sola.nimnet.asn.au>
In-Reply-To: <20110422120038.633AB10657D3@hub.freebsd.org>
References:  <20110422120038.633AB10657D3@hub.freebsd.org>

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In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 359, Issue 7, Message: 1
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:27:13 -0700 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 > 
 > Jerry <freebsd.user@seibercom.net> wrote:
 > 
 > > >  > Actually yes. Ignoring for a moment the reply you sent me
 > > >  > directly, conveniently bypassing the group forum,
 > > > 
 > > > perry's message, like this one, was likely posted to you, cc the
 > > > list. That's long been customary on freebsd lists, even this
 > > > 'kindergarten' one; noone 'conveniently bypassed' anything.  If you
 > > > don't like private copies, sent as a courtesy, just delete them and
 > > > move on.
 > >
 > > Wrong, it was sent directly, not CC'd. As per my stated policy, it was
 > > answered/referred to on the list forum. I am seriously considering
 > > changing that policy to also include reporting them as Spam.
 > 
 > Before making any such accusations, you had better make D@#% sure of
 > your facts, lest you find yourself on the wrong end of a libel suit.
 > 
 > My email client respects Reply-To: and I checked my logs just to be
 > sure.  That reply, as this one, was sent _only_ to the list.

Apologies for assuming you must have cc'd Jerry.  I should have checked 
your original post in freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 359, Issue 4, which 
shows any ccs, but not headers such as Reply-To: per message ..

Message: 23
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:22:35 -0700
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com
Subject: Re: How to be an imap Client?
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <4dafcd2c.tj0+Rgq2U5+TZv2y%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
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Jerry <freebsd.user@seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:01:28 -0500
> Martin McCormick <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu> articulated:
> > ... our entire network is on the blacklist ...
>
> Why are you blacklisted? It seems correcting that problem
> would be my first priority.

Being a university, okstate.edu has students, most of whom are
not in the CIS department or in any way under control of the CIS
department's sysadmin.  Need I say more?

------------------------------

Having admin'd small clubs of at most 25 members mostly using regularly 
virus-, trojan- and malware-infested Windows boxes, I can hardly imagine 
having to deal with perhaps half of 25,000 similarly vulnerable laptops, 
at least 1% of which will be trying hard to spam or portscan the planet 
at any given time - nearly all, as Martin points out, without intent or 
knowledge of their poor blighted owners .. and they're a smarter crew!

cheers, Ian



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