From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 01:40:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE471065673 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 01:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 064BA8FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 01:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12464 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2011 01:13:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (71.164.218.188) by smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.47) with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2011 01:13:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:12:45 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: url=http://www.ravenlock.us/keys/pub_schuele.pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE85CFC7CA2DF81F4A08A1F06" Subject: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 01:40:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE85CFC7CA2DF81F4A08A1F06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, I have a laptop running 8.2-prerelease GENERIC. I have virtualbox ose 3.2.12 from ports (and kmod as well). I've only installed windows guests in vbox. I've installed windows 2008 server 64, windows vista 64bit, and windows 7 32bit. I have the vbox hdd images on an NTFS filesystem mounted using fuse. My box is a dual boot machine between FreeBSD and Windows. My desire is to be able to utilize the same virtual machine in vbox on both my Windows and FreeBSD installations. I can successfully utilize the virtuals in vbox (same version) in Windows. However when I utilize any of the virtual machines in FreeBSD, they run for several minutes and eventually "freeze". Freeze may not necessarily be the correct term. All windows processes on the virtual machine begin to die. First one process, then another, then all. Hard to explain, which may not help my cause here. But, most important fact... in Windows they work fine... under FreeBSD they run for a while and then cease to run. When the VM is good and dead, it is always dead with the little vbox virtual hard disk LED lit up (no idea if that is important). Previously, they would run for a *very* short time. seconds? minutes? and then die (sometimes I couldn't login). I disabled sound support and now they run for 10-15 minutes. Had one run for an hour or two the other day, but can't reproduce that. Usually 10-15 minutes max. Network works fine inside the virtual. I'm new to VirtualBox on FreeBSD. I've used it a bit on Windows with good results. I did try a windows guest on a non fuse filesystem just to rule that out, but had same issue. What else could I provide that might allow someone to point me in the right direction here? Thanks. -- Regards, Eric --------------enigE85CFC7CA2DF81F4A08A1F06 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1N9Y0ACgkQngSDRM3IXUp0hQCgqiX3E7UFPSU3q9aZqnFZaY9M 09kAoIyTfd6YnK8AzpsN3RTwEjIItylL =yHOe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE85CFC7CA2DF81F4A08A1F06-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 07:23:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2556A106564A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 07:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916708FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 07:23:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: p167NI4n028369 Received: from gkeramidas-glaptop.linux.gr (h-64-105-143-250.snvacaid.static.covad.net [64.105.143.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id p167NI4n028369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:23:26 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Fred Boatwright References: <4D4DC23E.5C7F0654@blakemfg.com> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:23:12 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4D4DC23E.5C7F0654@blakemfg.com> (Fred Boatwright's message of "Sat, 05 Feb 2011 14:33:50 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nedit problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 07:23:47 -0000 On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 14:33:50 -0700, Fred Boatwright wrote: > Hello, > > After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem. The right > mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text > area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and > the X session becomes completely locked up. I have to stop X and > restart it. I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this > didn't help. It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3. > > Also, when nedit is started the following warnings are given: > > Cannot convert string > "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct > Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct > Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-medium-o-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct > Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct > Cannot convert string "-*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct > Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-o-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct > > These warnings have been happening for some time but nedit otherwise has > been working ok until the port update. xpdf gives similar warnings but > seems to work ok. > > What can I do to resolve at least the lockup problem? Can you run nedit under truss or ktrace? It may be stuck in a loop because of a bug. You should be able to run it under truss, for example, by opening a new terminal window and typing: truss -o nedit.log nedit Then when nedit gets stuck, wait a bit to let truss collect some tracing information, and kill nedit. Attach the output of truss in a message to the list. Someone may find useful information about nedit's blocking in the final bits of the trace file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 07:53:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB894106564A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 07:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AF88FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 07:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so3619590iwn.13 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:53:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DBKT0cCXCfE2TqZZ1bFJCGwoUUDPGNnLXWW1HBo/suc=; b=lrmcNsFNMD2qJoZ5UU3D2siUo4byxC255wC/CZYjQpZdnAnmvJnnN0fqMlpbOrl+jM HH2jSJqI6m0KKJ9/0zfewZ6dhkeUSdZi+Obldf1vixol6oUCO9zvZSM0XRKaC7yjpS5V pOd2DHqt2FOEH/qnGk6MCh4ooIR+5SOA6aQDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=B+BlZR3LYPn45ZjruOSRYuC6KE8wDs46/TFfRmgFyNuCYLF8JRRnZbg9aO3KUmBV4T FBERIsGqaP7Ihffjkuoj+pcVo5MegGYCDQZPiO1zHKRie8CrVQjNyL9aSYLkGRNqGnor dSbgXS2fg1+jn3TOmGP9IJgrSaSwSvTydUKyU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.180.133 with SMTP id bu5mr2884471icb.125.1296978794045; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.7.144 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 23:53:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 02:53:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Fred Boatwright Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: nedit problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 07:53:14 -0000 Fred Boatwright wrote: > After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem. The right > mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text > area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and > the X session becomes completely locked up. I have to stop X and > restart it. I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this > didn't help. It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3. This is a known problem with many Motif-based applications, arising from a bug in recent versions of Xorg. It has been corrected upstream, and it is likely that this problem will be fixed when the ports freeze ends shortly after the release of FreeBSD 7.4 and 8.2, if not before. If you can't wait, you can try using the patches from: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154510 b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 10:14:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FEA1106566B for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kellyremo@zoho.com) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A1A8FC1E for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:14:36 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; b=BgHJC2HDeumQQxVaXOaeqPQ3uZMKAAl3qINufnLQH1k/XjAL4Ya5LD3uDjBrkAe5xdjA/axegPF/ 6pqCH+44bqZRUgonKWQDbC6ATItRCGdLxyaIYZtQayvjp3xuYqpD Received: from 172.29.249.242 (172.29.249.242 [172.29.249.242]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1296987276606861.5116064244743; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 02:14:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 02:14:36 -0800 From: kellyremo To: "FreeBSD" Message-ID: <12dfa77447c.7163284093726025667.-8541699583891767164@zoho.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail Status: RO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: "https is faster on amd64?" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:14:37 -0000 http://devcentral.f5.com/weblogs/macvittie/archive/2011/01/31/dispelling-the-new-ssl-myth.aspx according to the "SSL Performance" table it says that the transactions per second is 2-3 times better using 64bit kernels opposite to 32bit kernels? is this true, or i am just misunderstanding something Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 12:20:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65B1106566C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kellyremo@zoho.com) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE61A8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:20:43 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; b=qNz4iqjhGH9Hn8raQlfktiWbAiBFXS3Ths9qiCGgV3RtTmnGURoNyNI4+eRnfdeKAfpD+0V78mGI taYTTLB/A9nCSNeK1Ub3/3NfwLa8y4pi9WVVtJzbj7lQTlCkV+hc Received: from 172.29.243.251 (172.29.243.251 [172.29.243.251]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1296994843225801.967395548556; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 04:20:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 04:20:42 -0800 From: kellyremo To: "FreeBSD" Message-ID: <12dfaeab98c.2320661712861783787.-8492260798816855817@zoho.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail Status: RO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: OpenSSH could be faster...then why don't they path it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:20:44 -0000 https://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/hpn-v-ssh-tput.jpg "SCP and the underlying SSH2 protocol implementation in OpenSSH is network performance limited by statically defined internal flow control buffers. These buffers often end up acting as a bottleneck for network throughput of SCP, especially on long and high bandwith network links. Modifying the ssh code to allow the buffers to be defined at run time eliminates this bottleneck. We have created a patch that will remove the bottlenecks in OpenSSH and is fully interoperable with other servers and clients. In addition HPN clients will be able to download faster from non HPN servers, and HPN servers will be able to receive uploads faster from non HPN clients. However, the host receiving the data must have a properly tuned TCP/IP stack." My question is: So Why Does the original OpenSSH has "limited statically defined internal flow control buffers"?? It could be way faster, even 10x!! With the HPN-SCP path it could be the descendant of FTP! Why aren't there any ""OpenSCP packages""? ('normal SCP+HPN-SCP path+no local user needed for SCP'ing+chroot by default') Any opinions? Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 13:33:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDC61065670 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kellyremo@zoho.com) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F2F8FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:33:33 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; b=ghfyXAd9Zq5dDvkPVGOmtvw2c3tTNI6UiEgWQEsTk0iBLoNykVXWIVwhYZ4Dxi6oA7G2otZK3WVx 4l8GRlGnfDAFwcazSlWiEh3LiB8iepjidY5WWLjFJlk3Py8+WLZN Received: from 172.29.243.251 (172.29.243.251 [172.29.243.251]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1296999212802914.146108165081; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 05:33:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 05:33:32 -0800 From: kellyremo To: "FreeBSD" Message-ID: <12dfb2d663e.8735497800158401667.-7202521450009428314@zoho.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail Status: RO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: if the file changes send email about diff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:33:33 -0000 I have 2 script. Script "A", Script "B". Script "A" is regulary watching the "dhcpacks" [dhcp release is configured to 2mins] in the logs, for the past 2 minutes. it writes the MAC addresses to a file [/dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt] every 2 minutes. Ok, this is working, active clients are in this file. Super! Script "B": http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wvhwhPWu I'm trying to create a script, that watches the changes in "/dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt" file [in every 1 sec]. Ok. But: my "watcher" script [the pastebined] is not working fine...sometime it works, sometime it send that someone "XY logged out", but it's not true! nothing happened, and the problem is not in the Script "A". Can someone help me point out, what am i missing? How can i watch a file [in every sec], that contains only MAC addresses, and if someone doesn't get dhcpack in 2 minutes, the file "/dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt" changes, and that clients MAC address will be gone from it, and i need to know, who was it [pastebined my script..but somethings wrong with it]. Thank you for any help..i've been pathing my script for days now.. :\ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 13:42:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD097106564A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E5E8FC1D for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overdrive.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D0B1F7419; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 08:42:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 08:42:27 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: kellyremo Message-Id: <20110206084227.639b10af.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <12dfaeab98c.2320661712861783787.-8492260798816855817@zoho.com> References: <12dfaeab98c.2320661712861783787.-8492260798816855817@zoho.com> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: OpenSSH could be faster...then why don't they path it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:42:29 -0000 In response to kellyremo : > https://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/hpn-v-ssh-tput.jpg > > "SCP and the underlying SSH2 protocol implementation in OpenSSH is network performance limited by statically defined internal flow control buffers. These buffers often end up acting as a bottleneck for network throughput of SCP, especially on long and high bandwith network links. Modifying the ssh code to allow the buffers to be defined at run time eliminates this bottleneck. We have created a patch that will remove the bottlenecks in OpenSSH and is fully interoperable with other servers and clients. In addition HPN clients will be able to download faster from non HPN servers, and HPN servers will be able to receive uploads faster from non HPN clients. However, the host receiving the data must have a properly tuned TCP/IP stack." > > My question is: So Why Does the original OpenSSH has "limited statically defined internal flow control buffers"?? It could be way faster, even 10x!! Because it's unstable?: "If you are experiencing disconnects due to a failure in buffer_append_space please let us know. We're currently tracking some problems with this and we're trying to gather more information to help resolve it." Also, I'm having trouble understanding how people like that get grants to do work like that. On the one hand, they obviously know enough about cryptography to make improvements. On the other hand, they can't seem to get a grip on the fact that the code will need to have a license before anyone can grab it and incorporate it. I can't find anywhere on that page where it tells me what terms I am allowed to use those patches under. Also, it would be nice if those folks kept track of dates. Like, how long have those patches be available? There's not a single date on any of those pages or the files involved. The reason I point this out is because OpenSSL is _extremely_ sensitive software. I don't want to see any large changes to it released until they've been in testing for months, if not years. For all we know, these speed improvements are riddled with dozens of security flaws. Also, any reason why you're asking these questions of FreeBSD and not of the OpenSSL project? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 15:49:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6DD106566C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B26C8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so1532623gyf.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 07:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.102.15 with SMTP id z15mr18076982agb.190.1297005818843; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 07:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([187.113.126.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n63sm2068143yha.20.2011.02.06.07.23.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Feb 2011 07:23:38 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:23:09 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.5.2; amd64; ; ) References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> In-Reply-To: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201102061223.09545.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Eric Schuele Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:49:08 -0000 On Saturday 05 February 2011 22:12:45 Eric Schuele wrote: > All, > > I have a laptop running 8.2-prerelease GENERIC. I have virtualbox ose > 3.2.12 from ports (and kmod as well). > > I've only installed windows guests in vbox. I've installed windows 2008 > server 64, windows vista 64bit, and windows 7 32bit. I have the vbox > hdd images on an NTFS filesystem mounted using fuse. > > My box is a dual boot machine between FreeBSD and Windows. My desire is > to be able to utilize the same virtual machine in vbox on both my > Windows and FreeBSD installations. > > I can successfully utilize the virtuals in vbox (same version) in > Windows. However when I utilize any of the virtual machines in FreeBSD, > they run for several minutes and eventually "freeze". Freeze may not > necessarily be the correct term. All windows processes on the virtual > machine begin to die. First one process, then another, then all. Hard > to explain, which may not help my cause here. But, most important > fact... in Windows they work fine... under FreeBSD they run for a while > and then cease to run. When the VM is good and dead, it is always dead > with the little vbox virtual hard disk LED lit up (no idea if that is > important). > > Previously, they would run for a *very* short time. seconds? minutes? > and then die (sometimes I couldn't login). I disabled sound support and > now they run for 10-15 minutes. Had one run for an hour or two the > other day, but can't reproduce that. Usually 10-15 minutes max. > > Network works fine inside the virtual. > > I'm new to VirtualBox on FreeBSD. I've used it a bit on Windows with > good results. > > I did try a windows guest on a non fuse filesystem just to rule that > out, but had same issue. > > What else could I provide that might allow someone to point me in the > right direction here? > > Thanks. > > -- > Regards, > Eric Eric; My advice to you is that you change the file system on drive that holds the VMs files from NTFS to EXT2. NTFS file systems on FreeBSD or even Linux are OK only for doing small r/w stuff. I use the ntfs-3g which is really good but don't trust NTFS for heavy usage under those OSs. Sometimes it's not even trustable under windows itself. EXT on the other hand, is very stable in FreeBSD and has very good drivers for any version of 32/64 windows (Ext2IFS_1_11a) so you can access you vdi files. hope this helps. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 15:51:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237BF1065673 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0CB8FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so3935392wyf.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 07:51:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KVYWoyoYThHFEX5v+mGMDaZIbt/unElXL19zbe86ThY=; b=kkaSS6KHR8Oc3++taZj1g4IlG1OX4tiA5JHFxQFUMAD8KRyl5wnghuFFY6/FQAFLf5 wiRxAClV1gesvIEcgH7ohmb3gA9U/uMAcJcC9/MEVlKdVJpWfCRhTvJMVD0q3LI2P2Pb xzEAsHLyiTralK9k0gJESncN+7fEeQzRE2R1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mL3Aovh+vrnotkgbVFlsBokczcY2Q9ZQtcAAarmUK7JRKByw0fScENwglnxDRswUm9 SEqKOhJFiQtQjY8+5FoHFox3PXCvT/GTQpJ5og/654U8+1+zStOwNvdbX8jVVRu9ge00 qDcSI9kTCCapYG7yiFlZFDqDailZ21T/JRuZQ= Received: by 10.227.138.15 with SMTP id y15mr14557519wbt.186.1297007477577; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 07:51:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm2488593wbd.10.2011.02.06.07.51.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Feb 2011 07:51:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D4EC363.70202@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:50:59 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110125 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Set tty resolution using hint.sc.0.flags with VESA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:51:19 -0000 Hello, I don't like much to use allscreens_flags to set my tty resolution because it's done at the end of /etc/rc process. I know we can edit the hint.sc.0.flags in /boot/device.hints to set the resolution at the earliest stage. I want to use the 1366x768 mode : # vidcontrol -i mode [... snip ...] 496 (0x1f0) 0x0000001f G 1366x768x32 D 8x16 0xa0000 64k 64k 0xc0000000 4128k To use this mode I should write hint.sc.0.flags="0x1f00180" where 80 means VESA mode following the sc(4) manpage. It seems that my resolution is like 1024x768 when I bootup and not the one I want. However when I use vidcontrol MODE_496 after boot it works pretty well. Is there something wrong on my line ? Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 16:03:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906B21065672 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33D198FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11863 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2011 16:03:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Feb 2011 16:03:57 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aIEP-P353bvd for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:03:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 11857 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2011 16:03:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ragnok.blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2011 16:03:56 -0000 Message-ID: <4D4EC568.70306@blakemfg.com> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 08:59:36 -0700 From: Fred User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20110131 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: nedit problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:03:58 -0000 On 02/06/11 00:53, b. f. wrote: > Fred Boatwright wrote: > >> After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem. The right >> mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text >> area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and >> the X session becomes completely locked up. I have to stop X and >> restart it. I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this >> didn't help. It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3. > This is a known problem with many Motif-based applications, arising > from a bug in recent versions of Xorg. It has been corrected > upstream, and it is likely that this problem will be fixed when the > ports freeze ends shortly after the release of FreeBSD 7.4 and 8.2, if > not before. If you can't wait, you can try using the patches from: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154510 > > b. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I will just use another editor for a while. Thanks for the help. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 16:37:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17D8106566C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A90708FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14690 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2011 16:10:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (71.164.218.188) by p3plsmtpa01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.83) with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2011 16:10:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4D4EC7CB.7010200@computer.org> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:09:47 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mario Lobo References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <201102061223.09545.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: <201102061223.09545.lobo@bsd.com.br> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: url=http://www.ravenlock.us/keys/pub_schuele.pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEFBB3C90591F7BC4A4D13B49" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:37:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEFBB3C90591F7BC4A4D13B49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/06/2011 09:23, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Saturday 05 February 2011 22:12:45 Eric Schuele wrote: >=20 >> All, >=20 >> >=20 >> I have a laptop running 8.2-prerelease GENERIC. I have virtualbox ose >=20 >> 3.2.12 from ports (and kmod as well). >=20 >> >=20 >> I've only installed windows guests in vbox. I've installed windows 200= 8 >=20 >> server 64, windows vista 64bit, and windows 7 32bit. I have the vbox >=20 >> hdd images on an NTFS filesystem mounted using fuse. >=20 >=20 > Eric; >=20 > My advice to you is that you change the file system on drive that holds= > the VMs files from NTFS to EXT2. Thanks for the suggestion, however, I've already tried this (sorta). =46rom my original post... > >> I did try a windows guest on a non fuse filesystem just to rule that >> out, but had same issue. > I suppose it may have been a little less than clear. By "non fuse filesystem" I actually meant UFS. The problem still persisted. >=20 > NTFS file systems on FreeBSD or even Linux are OK only for doing small > r/w stuff. I use the ntfs-3g which is really good but don't trust NTFS > for heavy usage under those OSs. Sometimes it's not even trustable unde= r > windows itself. I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had come a long way these days. It does seem to work well for all my purposes, except these VMs. Had hoped NTFS was not the issue. >=20 > EXT on the other hand, is very stable in FreeBSD and has very good > drivers for any version of 32/64 windows (Ext2IFS_1_11a) so you can > access you vdi files. I've not tried the EXT IFS for windows yet, nor had I heard much regarding their success or failure. If your willing to go out on a limb and say "very good drivers for any version of 32/64 windows"... I'll give it a try, and post my results. :) Thanks. >=20 > hope this helps. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Mario Lobo >=20 > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br >=20 > FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) >=20 --=20 Regards, Eric --------------enigEFBB3C90591F7BC4A4D13B49 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1Ox8sACgkQngSDRM3IXUq/gACgh/g4QrwWbunCWpPKBOabYav0 5iIAoK6obknsOt+fcc2g1vCKY9XvoCKg =3GrC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEFBB3C90591F7BC4A4D13B49-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 16:52:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9489B1065670 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluffy@fluffy.khv.ru) Received: from forward11.mail.yandex.net (forward11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0B28FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web140.yandex.ru (web140.yandex.ru [95.108.130.8]) by forward11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 8138023F8417; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:52:12 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web140.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6E17F14F800F; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:52:12 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [46.38.1.85] ([46.38.1.85]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:52:12 +0300 From: Dima Panov To: David Demelier In-Reply-To: <4D4EC363.70202@gmail.com> References: <4D4EC363.70202@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <187091297011132@web140.yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 02:52:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Set tty resolution using hint.sc.0.flags with VESA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:52:14 -0000 Hello! [fluffy@Beastie] ~$ cat /boot/device.hints|grep sc.0 hint.sc.0.at="isa" hint.sc.0.flags="0x180" hint.sc.0.vesa_mode=0x1f0 07.02.2011, 01:50, "David Demelier" : > Hello, > > I don't like much to use allscreens_flags to set my tty resolution > because it's done at the end of /etc/rc process. I know we can edit the > hint.sc.0.flags in /boot/device.hints to set the resolution at the > earliest stage. > > I want to use the 1366x768 mode : > > # vidcontrol -i mode > [... snip ...] > 496 (0x1f0) 0x0000001f G 1366x768x32 D šš8x16 š0xa0000 64k 64k > 0xc0000000 4128k > > To use this mode I should write hint.sc.0.flags="0x1f00180" where 80 > means VESA mode following the sc(4) manpage. > > It seems that my resolution is like 1024x768 when I bootup and not the > one I want. However when I use vidcontrol MODE_496 after boot it works > pretty well. > > Is there something wrong on my line ? > > Cheers, > > -- > David Demelier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Dima Panov (fluffy@FreeBSD.org) KDE@FreeBSD team Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/?id=100000181104157 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 17:05:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BFE106566C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from mail.webtent.org (mail.webtent.org [72.64.244.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EDB8FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.webtent.org (Postfix, from userid 27458) id D2885E104F; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (unknown [192.168.1.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: robert@mail.webtent.org) by mail.webtent.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 993A3E0CD5 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:05:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4D4ED4BB.5090704@webtent.org> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:04:59 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WebTent-Disclaimer: robert@webtent.org X-Copyrighted-Material: Please visit http://www.webtent.org/privacy.html X-WebTent-ESMTP: Please visit http://www.webtent.com/email for more information Subject: kern.crit messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:05:03 -0000 I have a server I installed 8.1-RELEASE on and believe I screwed up when rebuilding the kernel to support QUOTA because now that I am troubleshooting these weird messages in the log, I find I am actually running 9.0-CURRENT. I had a ports file as below when I pulled the source to rebuild the kernel... *default host=cvsup9.us.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all Using the tag above caused my issue? Now I see some troubling messages in my logs... > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: lock order reversal: > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: 1st 0xffffff8014bbbe58 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2659 > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: 2nd 0xffffff002b9d6400 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:283 > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: _witness_debugger() at _witness_debugger+0x2e > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: witness_checkorder() at witness_checkorder+0x807 > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: _sx_xlock() at _sx_xlock+0x55 > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire() at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x33 > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: ufsdirhash_add() at ufsdirhash_add+0x19 > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: ufs_direnter() at ufs_direnter+0x662 > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: ufs_makeinode() at ufs_makeinode+0x291 > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: VOP_CREATE_APV() at VOP_CREATE_APV+0x8d > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: vn_open_cred() at vn_open_cred+0x46a > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: kern_openat() at kern_openat+0x181 > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x1aa > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: syscall() at syscall+0x4c > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xe2 > Feb 6 11:25:23 backup kernel: --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF64, open), rip = 0x80078118c, rsp = 0x7fffffffad48, rbp = 0x7fffffffb73f --- I also find this message with dmesg... > ad8: 152627MB at ata4-master UDMA100 SATA > ad9: 953869MB at ata4-slave UDMA100 SATA > GEOM: ad8s1: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s). > ad10: 152627MB at ata5-master UDMA100 SATA > ad11: 953869MB at ata5-slave UDMA100 SATA > GEOM: ad9s1: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s). > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > GEOM: ufsid/4c7aa872e9a44575: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s). > GEOM: ad10s1: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s). > GEOM: ad11s1: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s). > uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered > ar0: 152627MB status: READY > ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad8 at ata4-master > ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad10 at ata5-master > ar1: 953869MB status: READY > ar1: disk0 READY (master) using ad11 at ata5-slave > ar1: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad9 at ata4-slave > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. > ugen1.2: at usbus1 > ukbd0: on usbus1 > kbd2 at ukbd0 > ums0: on usbus1 > ums0: 5 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=1 > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a > lock order reversal: > 1st 0xffffff0002cdd818 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c:501 > 2nd 0xffffff801497ff78 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:11309 > 3rd 0xffffff0002d4fbd8 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2111 > KDB: stack backtrace: > db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a > _witness_debugger() at _witness_debugger+0x2e > witness_checkorder() at witness_checkorder+0x807 > __lockmgr_args() at __lockmgr_args+0xd42 > ffs_lock() at ffs_lock+0x8c > VOP_LOCK1_APV() at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0x9b > _vn_lock() at _vn_lock+0x47 > vget() at vget+0x7b > vfs_hash_get() at vfs_hash_get+0xd5 > ffs_vgetf() at ffs_vgetf+0x48 > softdep_sync_metadata() at softdep_sync_metadata+0x5e3 > ffs_syncvnode() at ffs_syncvnode+0x213 > ffs_truncate() at ffs_truncate+0x557 > ufs_direnter() at ufs_direnter+0x47b > ufs_makeinode() at ufs_makeinode+0x291 > VOP_CREATE_APV() at VOP_CREATE_APV+0x8d > vn_open_cred() at vn_open_cred+0x46a > kern_openat() at kern_openat+0x181 > syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x1aa > syscall() at syscall+0x4c > Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xe2 > --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF64, open), rip = 0x80072f18c, rsp = 0x7fffffffead8, rbp = 0 --- > lock order reversal: > 1st 0xffffff8014bbbe58 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2659 > 2nd 0xffffff002b9d6400 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:283 > KDB: stack backtrace: > db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a > _witness_debugger() at _witness_debugger+0x2e > witness_checkorder() at witness_checkorder+0x807 > _sx_xlock() at _sx_xlock+0x55 > ufsdirhash_acquire() at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x33 > ufsdirhash_add() at ufsdirhash_add+0x19 > ufs_direnter() at ufs_direnter+0x662 > ufs_makeinode() at ufs_makeinode+0x291 > VOP_CREATE_APV() at VOP_CREATE_APV+0x8d > vn_open_cred() at vn_open_cred+0x46a > kern_openat() at kern_openat+0x181 > syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x1aa > syscall() at syscall+0x4c > Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xe2 > --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF64, open), rip = 0x80078118c, rsp = 0x7fffffffad48, rbp = 0x7fffffffb73f --- Just looking for advice on what to do about all this, can someone help? Thanks, Robert -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 17:48:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE97F106564A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0018ec05ec=kalts@estcard.ee) Received: from smtp.estcard.ee (smtp.estcard.ee [194.204.11.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633218FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fserv.internal ([192.168.10.3]) by smtp.estcard.ee with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.73) (envelope-from ) id 1Pm8Ht-0002uI-K2; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:20:37 +0200 Received: from myhakas.internal ([192.168.21.128]) by fserv.internal with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pm8Ht-0005UT-IB; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:20:37 +0200 Received: from kalts by myhakas.internal with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pm8Ht-0008Ag-EW; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:20:37 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:20:37 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Robert Fitzpatrick Message-ID: <20110206172037.GA31301@hape.internal> References: <4D4ED4BB.5090704@webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D4ED4BB.5090704@webtent.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: kern.crit messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kalts@estpak.ee List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:48:39 -0000 On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 12:04:59PM -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > I have a server I installed 8.1-RELEASE on and believe I screwed up when > rebuilding the kernel to support QUOTA because now that I am > troubleshooting these weird messages in the log, I find I am actually > running 9.0-CURRENT. I had a ports file as below when I pulled the > source to rebuild the kernel... > > *default host=cvsup9.us.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=. > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > src-all > > Using the tag above caused my issue? Now I see some troubling messages > in my logs... > > Just looking for advice on what to do about all this, can someone help? > By using the line: *default release=cvs tag=. for src-all collection you definitely grabbed -current sources. I'm not sure if downgrading by "make world" is supported but you could try. Backup first, try later.. -- Vallo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 17:50:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119D61065670 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:50:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4CC88FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18722 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2011 17:50:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2011 17:50:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=YqkFLHfC8ajHXvSFj9n/yEnICKrFcMj4A6qk3inAHGhiNBuq2HdCSa1JNfusjAcLA/OotlWYhGk06usgm11TiIdSQt8DC9mvAozfqK4IqLZnR2HBIEZ7UKBRS41DZLQi; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pm8lD-0007Hk-1o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:50:56 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:40:57 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:40:57 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110206174057.GA22368@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <12dfaeab98c.2320661712861783787.-8492260798816855817@zoho.com> <20110206084227.639b10af.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110206084227.639b10af.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: OpenSSH could be faster...then why don't they path it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:50:57 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 08:42:27AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: >=20 > Also, I'm having trouble understanding how people like that get grants > to do work like that. On the one hand, they obviously know enough about > cryptography to make improvements. On the other hand, they can't seem > to get a grip on the fact that the code will need to have a license > before anyone can grab it and incorporate it. I can't find anywhere on > that page where it tells me what terms I am allowed to use those patches > under. A lack of concern for specific licensing seems to be a big problem in the open source world -- particularly the copyleft world. Many people seem to think that if they say "open source" it means "GPL", and they don't have to tell anyone they're releasing it under the terms of the GPL. The license ends up buried under some second-order subdirectory in a tarball that isn't the supposedly preferred means of getting the software in question. Occasionally, the same kind of lack of concern is employed with distributing something under some other open source license, and occasionally an announcement that something is open source comes with the author's assumption that no license is needed at all. It drives me up the wall. >=20 > Also, it would be nice if those folks kept track of dates. Like, how long > have those patches be available? There's not a single date on any of > those pages or the files involved. The reason I point this out is because > OpenSSL is _extremely_ sensitive software. I don't want to see any > large changes to it released until they've been in testing for months, > if not years. For all we know, these speed improvements are riddled with > dozens of security flaws. I agree that dates are important, too. These days, there is little or no execuse for offering open source software to the world without storing it in a publicly accessible version control system's repository, which will automatically track commit dates for everything anyway. >=20 > Also, any reason why you're asking these questions of FreeBSD and not of > the OpenSSL project? I think we're discussing OpenSSH rather than OpenSSL. Am I mistaken? They are not the same project. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1O3SkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXUqQCg6ngqieVelRNjBZeeJ4gMTenY Zf0An16Z/oJs4xF6sBq2112Ya5EcpuTL =xAYQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 17:56:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379F8106566C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1D88FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so3946216wwf.31 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=33bOsTJy7cUaZ3nQblvyUxXdx3GXncucBh4xJNDsfCk=; b=cmBdOKEfLJlAqijZBGz28AZp3mqeDniplce0vhuRXC6e/VS3/2TPu156O72zc42ITj c6iceqA5MfHiu4waask50licng4AwUo6/7trD/0Yn7Hbak9JYhz6n3h6tPwViFOcnrjv KmxHSSyWZW4wusYiYK+2wP1e/T0IMhlxQcLHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YEzVd2HGm3i4ZOgz7zkoJEBJQI8U8yqmK2ErE/mMOO7IHbYiNjwy4gABZx+7HFCN7+ m6Nwp+VRQzjlOwj6OIDsEnVInazi8cJuGtxq0Qw8pQtJA7UDQqa/Kn9ciNeKE5W7/e1J U/DRddWvLtkSjK5l3erSn1WT3TmN3PtD5ELP8= Received: by 10.227.138.82 with SMTP id z18mr424763wbt.106.1297015002650; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from Abricot.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm2579683wbd.4.2011.02.06.09.56.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:56:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D4EE0F6.3000404@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:57:10 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110126 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dima Panov References: <4D4EC363.70202@gmail.com> <187091297011132@web140.yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <187091297011132@web140.yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Set tty resolution using hint.sc.0.flags with VESA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:56:44 -0000 On 06/02/2011 17:52, Dima Panov wrote: > Hello! > > [fluffy@Beastie] ~$ cat /boot/device.hints|grep sc.0 > hint.sc.0.at="isa" > hint.sc.0.flags="0x180" > hint.sc.0.vesa_mode=0x1f0 > > absolutely great! But where did you find these vesa_mode setting? It's not documented anywhere. Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 17:56:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3A310656C4 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C638FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ww0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 26so3946216wwf.31 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:56:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=J3hO31grA16saKugobphOLKxegxWCNbdHh5i/DyBVpU=; b=pVpvdlIOTW1E7krhyAyxE70X1p6aZT4wLEsXM/TQNh1Nx0+jEkaF/b2hC1p3fXmv/S wIB3ScJSLBfF6GM0rKVzKQ2OowUHTLIM4Cd9VJkntzieuzXg76Dj/y0tnh+958PybnhZ xh6j/M/L+dJDyGmtqgagh6XbJT1sskdOTrjNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mq1xLdA4jue/Acifv9wQlxORoe27EwEedXqgcaGvtA4dAYqzXwopQidkVx0GGTaYSk lYGdiTT2csWo/HFcxbPJ8SnpQXsKkcF3x4wl18O5CYUd/z+pUKUu0Gq9vhxjywztSp/G ZiPs9gcRDsq7Zfizc/cx7FuPSQVxGenYjjMAg= Received: by 10.216.167.65 with SMTP id h43mr1484070wel.17.1297015011668; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n1sm1685837weq.31.2011.02.06.09.56.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:56:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:56:47 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110206175647.11ac80d2@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4D4ED4BB.5090704@webtent.org> References: <4D4ED4BB.5090704@webtent.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: kern.crit messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:56:53 -0000 On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:04:59 -0500 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > I have a server I installed 8.1-RELEASE on and believe I screwed up > when rebuilding the kernel to support QUOTA because now that I am > troubleshooting these weird messages in the log, I find I am actually > running 9.0-CURRENT. I had a ports file as below when I pulled the > source to rebuild the kernel... > > *default host=cvsup9.us.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=. > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > src-all > > Using the tag above caused my issue? Yes, with ports tag=. just means the latest version, with the base system it means the latest CURRENT, you should have used RELENG_8_1_0_RELEASE or RELENG_8_1 > Now I see some troubling messages > in my logs... I believe CURRENT has a lot of additional debug on by default, and presumably you now have a mismatched kernel and userland, so it's not surprizing. > Just looking for advice on what to do about all this, can someone > help? If you have only built the kernel and only built it once you should have the old 8.1 version as a backup. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 18:10:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C75106566B for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from mail.webtent.org (mail.webtent.org [72.64.244.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47D58FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.webtent.org (Postfix, from userid 27458) id 22B96E1056; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (unknown [192.168.1.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: robert@mail.webtent.org) by mail.webtent.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DC9D2E0B20 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:10:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4D4EE410.7010608@webtent.org> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:10:24 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D4ED4BB.5090704@webtent.org> <20110206172037.GA31301@hape.internal> In-Reply-To: <20110206172037.GA31301@hape.internal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WebTent-Disclaimer: robert@webtent.org X-Copyrighted-Material: Please visit http://www.webtent.org/privacy.html X-WebTent-ESMTP: Please visit http://www.webtent.com/email for more information Subject: Re: kern.crit messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:10:27 -0000 On 2/6/2011 12:20 PM, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > By using the line: > *default release=cvs tag=. > for src-all collection you definitely grabbed -current sources. I'm > not sure if downgrading by "make world" is supported but you could > try. Backup first, try later.. Thanks. Can someone confirm these steps as the best way to attempt to get back to a 8.1 kernel I originally installed... 1. update my tag line to 8_1 2. update my source tree 3. run 'make world' I have backup already. I ask because in the handbook it says 'Do not use make world'... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html I was going to just rebuild the kernel with the proper source tree. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 18:22:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C8B106564A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6568E8FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so1558232gyf.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:22:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZWsTgp+8pBF5aI1nerBDANQk1rSSCgI6uYvCe/o6McY=; b=IIXsib1NFdRCQxCuP18AnS/vKP9j7TzgdS+CFKp0tdR4zb59R+xxTO3QOOgIjFvTmn a0trxqNECkwhzEQYVtl3QYUKRAy20er7Xx8Q9E4BKjJzDGCi8dGwjwjfX0EH4cQi8oa5 vwuJmx4hi3T6MCvTWQLnw7J/qk54Hae0KWR1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=adsHObXzX76Ox0+BqSPHUv1NXeMyivNcfPGjSiLTyxwNinn4Sxq64VKDPLLFw1ELRp s2Q1RabN4NNBDpR9aDDMaBuysGx6ZGcsjcPmZHftJ9sl1C0coyoYYTOKNBUWcmeWSJVS xSZc6UPoGCA7GgUsw8mgANlAAoUmAOJAyMADI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.108.167 with SMTP id q27mr28927754yhg.36.1297016528619; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.105.197 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:22:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:22:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: David Demelier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Set tty resolution using hint.sc.0.flags with VESA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:22:09 -0000 David Demelier wrote: >> hint.sc.0.vesa_mode=0x1f0 ... >absolutely great! But where did you find these vesa_mode setting? It's >not documented anywhere. Look again: syscons(4), in the Synopsis and the "Driver Flags" section. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 20:00:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0AE106564A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDFA58FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22302 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2011 20:00:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Feb 2011 20:00:04 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qhZKkYTBhmZS for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:00:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 22298 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2011 20:00:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ragnok.blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2011 20:00:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4D4EFCBF.6090506@blakemfg.com> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:55:43 -0700 From: Fred User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20110131 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: nedit problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:00:06 -0000 On 02/06/11 00:53, b. f. wrote: > Fred Boatwright wrote: > >> After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem. The right >> mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text >> area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and >> the X session becomes completely locked up. I have to stop X and >> restart it. I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this >> didn't help. It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3. > This is a known problem with many Motif-based applications, arising > from a bug in recent versions of Xorg. It has been corrected > upstream, and it is likely that this problem will be fixed when the > ports freeze ends shortly after the release of FreeBSD 7.4 and 8.2, if > not before. If you can't wait, you can try using the patches from: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154510 > > b. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I have tried several editors that are horrible. Axe installed from packages dumps core. There were a lot of warnings that later versions of libraries were installed than axe was expecting. Does the maintainer need to know this? Can you tell me how to install the Xorg patch to make nedit work? I have not worked with getting source code or compiling from source. I can do the edit on another computer. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 20:12:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147A91065673 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6CC8FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so4361372fxm.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:12:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UzdcvQefTEOr51SnLJ6MAQiNPWyg9unKaqjQaw1lcbs=; b=VC4AfLeRCyx3rOXkDamMLmdtjq1FJp98Tw+TLeMVTG8XU+HxeqjfsrcWIlMvgXxSiu mnbF2iBMZnxoY7gBfRVIpmOfiQtFmWToRdyXuFtnM/Y+/GQtS++nTvYuC7+b45ApaWNg u8o9fnjyPC2mg/1sI33wB0MOPs79YY5pgCwgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Xpxqste4Q5AlrMzmOLfbFXCN8oYhN6m59kvob8G6EilEcH2D2+2C5aE6wRqZY8dcxr XuLT69XBDJofBglVoZAKfZQe6E6eUWft0Iwb5wCmq4rRCAaeLDFMA4c3vKd1eVBJFBWo 5m6zFBi2ah6fAirMX7+j2JvOvYkvt/WagaGz0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.86.135 with SMTP id s7mr13948859fal.70.1297016462892; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:21:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D4EE410.7010608@webtent.org> References: <4D4ED4BB.5090704@webtent.org> <20110206172037.GA31301@hape.internal> <4D4EE410.7010608@webtent.org> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:21:02 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Robert Fitzpatrick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern.crit messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:12:36 -0000 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks. Can someone confirm these steps as the best way to attempt to > get back to a 8.1 kernel I originally installed... > > 1. update my tag line to 8_1 > 2. update my source tree > For step 3, you can something like "make buildkernel && make installkernel" but you may not have to do that if the /boot/kernel.old is a match your currect userland as mentioned previously. simply move it /boot/kernel after you have tested it. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 20:16:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25FF106564A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843948FC19 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so4363425fxm.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:16:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=I4tC8abMoE9vHAxy7p/iEzENuPlNdscDk6LKKz5QtBg=; b=KTAq+hRUcPmRQq2bhMYqDk00DBlkEeIO0HbUDz1TuUquFoy4nReBZ41KPF7uDaXhhL 1PEfgfNzzojHNmplGn1FaLWjt7Hxy/bNT0vn7U9SLOMZaQTayWgeablDccFfJCYa+cnR OUfibyNO4vhZrHutvNKRkPl2xJLHavoHCgM0M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BJEpUFMk+NMyRIqVlrg+ujZvMe0npa0pGJRy53587lUP77NWqOvKp25ZbyNFgZS4Ro UmtkUZ4XcaPHJ+TY5uKOVJP2Z/RLrIpkIOLtIozMHRDPxkTfaqwYIIvpwE2rvlCiq1lB NPGYY0Oo7lwrnYh/KtIVFFemt4V4fvvHoALjo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.106.129 with SMTP id x1mr13905208fao.13.1297013754348; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:35:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:35:54 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Eric Schuele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:16:18 -0000 On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Eric Schuele wrote: > What else could I provide that might allow someone to point me in the > right direction here? > You can try recompiling virtualbox with debug options and see if it spits out any pertinent messages. I have no problems with Windows guests on VDI, ZVOL, raw file, or raw partitions. Vbox also logs data per VM, you can check that. Another possibility is that you have mismatched versions of guest additions. If that were the problem, it would show up in the Vbox logs. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 20:48:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802D51065670 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from pop.cape.com (pop.cape.com [209.213.66.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571828FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.cape.com (pop.cape.com [127.0.0.1]) by pop.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6514D1890040; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:48:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209.213.65.25 (SquirrelMail authenticated user crtb) by webmail.cape.com with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:48:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <62305.209.213.65.25.1297025325.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:48:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Chuck Bacon" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Chuck Bacon Subject: Re: Why does my 8.2-RC3 dvd1 boot DOS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:48:46 -0000 SERIOUS APOLOGIES! I've found out my dvd is marginal, or possibly the drive. What seemed like a bad dvd apparently resulted in a scan (by the BIOS?) until it found a boot loader it understood, "PC-DOS" it said, which was one of several I discovered in grepping the ISO file. I should have done freebsd-update ! Chuck Bacon - crtb@cape.com > I downloaded it yesterday. Here's the facts: > > 1. md5 matches CHECKSUM.MD5 > > 2. When I boot off the BIOS, it takes a half minute or so, and > then: voila! PC-DOS boots, and for all the world look as > though it will boot a larger system; except it doesn't have > a clue. > > Here's the hypothesis: The FreeBSD-8.3-RC3 boot loader doesn't > satisfy my BIOS, and the BIOS looks through the dvd until it finds > one of the DOS boot loaders provided by some fdisk variant. > Any ideas why? > > If nothing else, I'll download disc1. Praps that'll work! > > Many thanks, > Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com > ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 20:49:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250501065673 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA35D8FC23 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so3999655iwn.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.165.132 with SMTP id k4mr15986260icy.163.1297025345324; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:49:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.241.138 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:48:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D4EC7CB.7010200@computer.org> References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <201102061223.09545.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4D4EC7CB.7010200@computer.org> From: Chris Brennan Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:48:45 -0500 Message-ID: To: Eric Schuele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:49:06 -0000 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Eric Schuele wrote: > > I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had > come a long way these days. It does seem to work well for all my > purposes, except these VMs. Had hoped NTFS was not the issue. ntfs/ntfs-3g is foolhardy at best in linux *and* fbsd ... it's trashed so many drives.partitions on me it's not even funny anymore... and I never did much w/ them except small stuff anyway. If you need to access the volumes in *nix/windows then why not FAT32 then? I use a FAT32 drive for my music so I can access it in any OS reliably and the drive is now 6+ years old. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 21:38:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE00C106566B for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BCC8FC17 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie19 with SMTP id 19so1599419yie.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:38:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.83.5 with SMTP id g5mr5292210agb.59.1297028286913; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([187.113.166.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm391962yhl.45.2011.02.06.13.38.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:38:06 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: Eric Schuele Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:37:37 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.5.2; amd64; ; ) References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <201102061223.09545.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4D4EC7CB.7010200@computer.org> In-Reply-To: <4D4EC7CB.7010200@computer.org> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201102061837.37675.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:38:09 -0000 On Sunday 06 February 2011 13:09:47 Eric Schuele wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestion, however, I've already tried this (sorta). > From my original post... > > >> I did try a windows guest on a non fuse filesystem just to rule that > >> out, but had same issue. > > I suppose it may have been a little less than clear. By "non fuse > filesystem" I actually meant UFS. The problem still persisted. > > > NTFS file systems on FreeBSD or even Linux are OK only for doing small > > r/w stuff. I use the ntfs-3g which is really good but don't trust NTFS > > for heavy usage under those OSs. Sometimes it's not even trustable under > > windows itself. > My bad!. Sorry!. But it seems that you're right. Looks like the issue is not the FS then. If you're building from the ports, try the svn version from: https://svn.bluelife.at/index.cgi/blueports It's already version 4.0.2 there. > I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had > come a long way these days. It does seem to work well for all my > purposes, except these VMs. Had hoped NTFS was not the issue. > > I've not tried the EXT IFS for windows yet, nor had I heard much > regarding their success or failure. If your willing to go out on a limb > and say "very good drivers for any version of 32/64 windows"... I'll > give it a try, and post my results. :) > Forgive me if it sounded "on a limb". Didn't mean to look like that. The only reason I mentioned it is because it's exactly the way I've been using. I have triple boot system. BSD AMD64, XP32 and Win7 64 and the IFS driver works flawlessly on both windows, and all 3 Vboxes accessing the same VDIs. Because of that, I believe I may have got carried away by saying "any win version". regards, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 22:02:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E941A106566B for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DD78FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p16M2kvo007300; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:02:46 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p16M2jNo007295; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:02:45 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 49DF233C3D; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:02:45 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:02:45 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Chuck Bacon Message-ID: <20110206220245.GA33266@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <62305.209.213.65.25.1297025325.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <62305.209.213.65.25.1297025325.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does my 8.2-RC3 dvd1 boot DOS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:02:51 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 03:48:45PM -0500, Chuck Bacon wrote: > > SERIOUS APOLOGIES! I've found out my dvd is marginal, or > possibly the drive. What seemed like a bad dvd apparently > resulted in a scan (by the BIOS?) until it found a boot loader > it understood, "PC-DOS" it said, which was one of several I > discovered in grepping the ISO file. I should have > done freebsd-update ! > Chuck Bacon - crtb@cape.com Chuck, where on the DVD is the copy of PC-DOS? >=20 > > I downloaded it yesterday. Here's the facts: > > > > 1. md5 matches CHECKSUM.MD5 > > > > 2. When I boot off the BIOS, it takes a half minute or so, and > > then: voila! PC-DOS boots, and for all the world look as > > though it will boot a larger system; except it doesn't have > > a clue. > > > > Here's the hypothesis: The FreeBSD-8.3-RC3 boot loader doesn't > > satisfy my BIOS, and the BIOS looks through the dvd until it finds > > one of the DOS boot loaders provided by some fdisk variant. > > Any ideas why? > > > > If nothing else, I'll download disc1. Praps that'll work! > > > > Many thanks, > > Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com > > ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1PGoMACgkQHduKvUAgeK6UZgCgn3EzkVz6/bU66+7AnNGnMtmq A1MAn0HNS5Mp5H8ag4KBapqvuWtvX+1m =C4S4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 22:26:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6AD106566C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1A18FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so1598365gyf.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.91.62.6 with SMTP id p6mr605917agk.124.1297031158168; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([187.113.166.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c34sm4576012anc.10.2011.02.06.14.25.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:25:57 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: Chris Brennan Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:25:27 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.5.2; amd64; ; ) References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <4D4EC7CB.7010200@computer.org> In-Reply-To: X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201102061925.28021.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Eric Schuele Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:26:00 -0000 On Sunday 06 February 2011 17:48:45 Chris Brennan wrote: > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Eric Schuele wrote: > > I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had > > come a long way these days. It does seem to work well for all my > > purposes, except these VMs. Had hoped NTFS was not the issue. > > ntfs/ntfs-3g is foolhardy at best in linux *and* fbsd ... it's trashed so > many drives.partitions on me it's not even funny anymore... and I never did > much w/ them except small stuff anyway. If you need to access the volumes > in *nix/windows then why not FAT32 then? I use a FAT32 drive for my music > so I can access it in any OS reliably and the drive is now 6+ years old. FAT32 max file size is 4Gig. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 22:39:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797D21065695 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333608FC3B for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie19 with SMTP id 19so1609650yie.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:39:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YDO0+L3PgYZF4873Cdr0ReTyRRCOqY/4hgigntEiBcg=; b=MduE9vfz9HdxGmxZHqBmbrmiuarRbkxHNCSm6rovQj3NknjBdWU9o9FA2BZpU1bAac 3IPIl6gL1igqnl2GxtJeo5i4IWMRFw1GlMsr1WOWQ26qriJG5acU2ir8ll02BL40+FK0 7CG6g9Au7mIZbETzPjjn2WPl5bS4RPHB0Uk94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UirNlRw1wAWfrARRUbJiCTVs0vvYeyQX6g6Lnb2AAyhm/tmBB145QEVepVjIpozMJr tNf2HC2h+mbgXbvXiggawfPmbVTJ4nC8aXwsidDSwgRE8YcqegrR6R+0U2GHMkNZQcwP 2FdwKbeZ2GemnL+NwfhFQhpsdOKkoSu+1VfAM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.63.14 with SMTP id l14mr11754672aga.185.1297030570323; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:16:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.120.4 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:16:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <12dfb2d663e.8735497800158401667.-7202521450009428314@zoho.com> References: <12dfb2d663e.8735497800158401667.-7202521450009428314@zoho.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:16:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: J65nko To: kellyremo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: if the file changes send email about diff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:39:42 -0000 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:33 PM, kellyremo wrote: > > I have 2 script. Script "A", Script "B". > > Script "A" is regulary watching the "dhcpacks" [dhcp release is configure= d to 2mins] in the logs, for the past 2 minutes. it writes the MAC addresse= s to a file [/dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt] every 2 minutes. Ok, this = is working, active clients are in this file. Super! > > Script "B": http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3DwvhwhPWu > I'm trying to create a script, that watches the changes in "/dev/shm/dhcp= acks-in-last-2min.txt" file [in every 1 sec]. Ok. But: my "watcher" script = [the pastebined] is not working fine...sometime it works, sometime it send = that someone "XY logged out", but it's not true! nothing happened, and the = problem is not in the Script "A". > > Can someone help me point out, what am i missing? How can i watch a file = [in every sec], that contains only MAC addresses, and if someone doesn't ge= t dhcpack in 2 minutes, the file "/dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt" chang= es, and that clients MAC address will be gone from it, and i need to know, = who was it [pastebined my script..but somethings wrong with it]. You are attempting to re-invent the wheel called "revision control system" ;) Your FreeBSD box has a simple revision control system called 'rcs'. It will do the most things you are trying to emulate in your shell script. Read the rcsintro(1) man page how to get started. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 22:46:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBD11065695 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97938FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EFB3C520; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:46:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p16Mk9Io001596; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:46:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:46:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Adam Vande More Message-Id: <20110206234608.0151cd9d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4D4ED4BB.5090704@webtent.org> <20110206172037.GA31301@hape.internal> <4D4EE410.7010608@webtent.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Fitzpatrick Subject: Re: kern.crit messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:46:13 -0000 On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:21:02 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > Thanks. Can someone confirm these steps as the best way to attempt to > > get back to a 8.1 kernel I originally installed... > > > > 1. update my tag line to 8_1 > > 2. update my source tree > > > > For step 3, you can something like "make buildkernel && make installkernel" > but you may not have to do that if the /boot/kernel.old is a match your > currect userland as mentioned previously. simply move it /boot/kernel after > you have tested it. Refer to the comment section of /usr/src/Makefile for an explaination of the correct procedure of the updating process: 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). 2. `make buildworld' 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). 6. `mergemaster -p' 7. `make installworld' 8. `make delete-old' 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai). 10. `reboot' 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) You'll also see what the different make targets are representing (e. g. make world = "buildworld + installworld, no kernel"). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 02:36:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F591106566B for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 02:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6878FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 02:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp6 with SMTP id 6so1648034ywp.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:36:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JBw9e0fqVq38Uw1Qvh8YtinUFjjcHyui+hVz6ZgPd6c=; b=l06gaVQDCsdSuw6fQIJgQpbTtxeNiBdiYYoh8zIdkHan5A4FpvajpIp55rAIVuurcN BkyjdqKrZiMdQ5/lZdQEil0bW0iXDwYThYH/9AY4G/DU+VIqNmnIlSxjL2i57Fc5MVDo EqV/SXRwnQNn9FixlRmKI4JbB5cMGfIjzwQ9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=B+Q5oU/8Pvil7PDj+fTd6VoJtli1ugNO90o0gwIjaFgTIlPvo2j5naN2dvvK9O6Kh0 /mKJNFdOsAovKpjnDN03Z27305U1tMFjBSRdcC3ZqULIwJ5hURSaqufep4fawq1oxHEG EG0XtBqsllH+YTY70IUz4QipikDI5ynmbKWlI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.109.52 with SMTP id r40mr28552599yhg.52.1297046164690; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.110.52 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:36:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:36:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Fred Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=002354867bdce75bdb049ba81772 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: nedit problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 02:36:06 -0000 --002354867bdce75bdb049ba81772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fred Boatwright wrote: > On 02/06/11 00:53, b. f. wrote: > > Fred Boatwright wrote: > > > >> After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem. The right > >> mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text > >> area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and > >> the X session becomes completely locked up. I have to stop X and > >> restart it. I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this > >> didn't help. It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3. > > This is a known problem with many Motif-based applications, arising > > from a bug in recent versions of Xorg. It has been corrected > > upstream, and it is likely that this problem will be fixed when the > > ports freeze ends shortly after the release of FreeBSD 7.4 and 8.2, if > > not before. If you can't wait, you can try using the patches from: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154510 > > > I have tried several editors that are horrible. Axe installed from > packages dumps core. There were a lot of warnings that later versions > of libraries were installed than axe was expecting. Does the maintainer > need to know this? Sadly, there is no maintainer for that port. But yes, you should file a Problem Report (PR), so that people will know that there may be a problem: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/index.html > Can you tell me how to install the Xorg patch to make nedit work? I > have not worked with getting source code or compiling from source. I > can do the edit on another computer. Get an up-to-date ports tree. (If you don't know what that means, read the relevant portions of the FreeBSD Handbook.) Place the attached patch (or a trimmed version of the patch from the PR that I cited earlier) in ports/x11-servers/xorg-server/files under a name like 'patch-dix__events.c', that begins with 'patch-', and doesn't overwrite any of the existing patches. In the ports/x11-servers/xorg-server directory, run 'make deinstall clean install && make clean', or use your favorite third-party port updating tool to force an update of that port. (If you want to create a backup package of your patched version of xorg-server, and you are not using a port updating tool with this feature, then either 'make package' in that directory before running the final 'make clean', or use 'pkg_create -b "xorg-server-*"'.) I'm assuming that you are already using the latest version of x11-servers/xorg-server; if instead you are using an earlier version, and packages that depend on it, you will probably need to update them as well. b. --002354867bdce75bdb049ba81772-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 03:03:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DFB106566B for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A8D8FC15 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so4181788iyb.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:03:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.175.6 with SMTP id ay6mr3766356icb.498.1297047816213; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.241.138 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.241.138 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:03:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201102061925.28021.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <4D4EC7CB.7010200@computer.org> <201102061925.28021.lobo@bsd.com.br> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:03:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Chris Brennan To: Mario Lobo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Eric Schuele Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 03:03:37 -0000 Net, I've formatted drives as fat32 that were well over 4gb. In fact I have an external 120gb we datavault that's fat32 -- Sent from my Droid On Feb 6, 2011 5:25 PM, "Mario Lobo" wrote: > On Sunday 06 February 2011 17:48:45 Chris Brennan wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Eric Schuele wrote: >> > I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had >> > come a long way these days. It does seem to work well for all my >> > purposes, except these VMs. Had hoped NTFS was not the issue. >> >> ntfs/ntfs-3g is foolhardy at best in linux *and* fbsd ... it's trashed so >> many drives.partitions on me it's not even funny anymore... and I never did >> much w/ them except small stuff anyway. If you need to access the volumes >> in *nix/windows then why not FAT32 then? I use a FAT32 drive for my music >> so I can access it in any OS reliably and the drive is now 6+ years old. > > FAT32 max file size is 4Gig. > > > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 03:18:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C101106564A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:18:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1265D8FC14 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11633 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2011 03:18:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (71.164.218.188) by smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.47) with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2011 03:18:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4D4F644F.1040006@computer.org> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:17:35 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: url=http://www.ravenlock.us/keys/pub_schuele.pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDF4A37DC4BE4379CB0F443B4" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 03:18:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDF4A37DC4BE4379CB0F443B4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/06/2011 11:35, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Eric Schuele w= rote: >=20 >> What else could I provide that might allow someone to point me in the >> right direction here? >> >=20 > You can try recompiling virtualbox with debug options and see if it spi= ts > out any pertinent messages. I have no problems with Windows guests on = VDI, > ZVOL, raw file, or raw partitions. Vbox also logs data per VM, you can= > check that. Logs might be nice. Where would I find these. Or are they only present with debug builds (which I am building now) >=20 > Another possibility is that you have mismatched versions of guest > additions. If that were the problem, it would show up in the Vbox logs= =2E I thought of that... even though vbox does not complain of a mismatch, I went ahead and removed them from a machine and added them back in from my FreeBSD host. No improvement unfortunately. >=20 >=20 --=20 Regards, Eric --------------enigDF4A37DC4BE4379CB0F443B4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1PZE8ACgkQngSDRM3IXUqpKgCgs+m3JfbZMz0Bqa48MVXHbhGh W/gAoJq2ElO5gGKbTecuLFJFwB279yND =9cRy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDF4A37DC4BE4379CB0F443B4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 03:24:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE794106564A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:24:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from smtpauth17.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth17.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84D508FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21499 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2011 03:04:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (71.164.218.188) by smtpauth17.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.29) with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2011 03:04:13 -0000 Message-ID: <4D4F65A2.1040802@computer.org> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:23:14 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <4D4F644F.1040006@computer.org> In-Reply-To: <4D4F644F.1040006@computer.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: url=http://www.ravenlock.us/keys/pub_schuele.pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig14B882080D09964DF6528977" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 03:24:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig14B882080D09964DF6528977 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/06/2011 21:17, Eric Schuele wrote: > On 02/06/2011 11:35, Adam Vande More wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Eric Schuele = wrote: >> >>> What else could I provide that might allow someone to point me in the= >>> right direction here? >>> >> You can try recompiling virtualbox with debug options and see if it sp= its >> out any pertinent messages. I have no problems with Windows guests on= VDI, >> ZVOL, raw file, or raw partitions. Vbox also logs data per VM, you ca= n >> check that. >=20 > Logs might be nice. Where would I find these. Or are they only presen= t > with debug builds (which I am building now) Ok... found the logs. :) Looks as if each machine has 4 log files, and that the set of files is from the last run. Anything in there I could post to help diagnose? >=20 >> Another possibility is that you have mismatched versions of guest >> additions. If that were the problem, it would show up in the Vbox log= s. >=20 > I thought of that... even though vbox does not complain of a mismatch, = I > went ahead and removed them from a machine and added them back in from > my FreeBSD host. No improvement unfortunately. >=20 >> >=20 >=20 --=20 Regards, Eric --------------enig14B882080D09964DF6528977 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1PZaIACgkQngSDRM3IXUqzRQCgrscdRRjThD7ZDZF9xXIU0V7x cnIAnRZS3PyJCQplTV2GW9Zin7Lxv4t0 =4k+7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig14B882080D09964DF6528977-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 03:31:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E527C106566C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EABD8FC14 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws9 with SMTP id 9so2640817vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:31:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xfc4S83MDJ4BJv+IlpvRVLZVcJuadEFuAuRfeQQjG/o=; b=BS2UJIv3ggR3FEHMPAAdm04QiFP7Wl+F+lwZbc1BWSNUss9HxClIST55nl9VzFv7l/ TC2KqLaSWC/7caDFQiynt2ZHXJ7DJAZp5ynRLDfzauXy8M85XchIsLwMLbbzRHM+Ltuf uAJtkXU6EO8XNfXFjOyHv1jyRRl1q12EuRZlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oJt04VrYvqFqroHJBN5yIUVZ3ipCPoOKmOPg88s+bqhghO0EdetiCRhb3tiHLfaogF LQ+0XBs/GwSwh4ciufdTa/UU2nhWlz3MywH9qpdVLTLdRIzRU8Y3TxpotGuDDMVzfLED zvnj9vNQu8LNjb1C4eDn6Di/pODdBhRcRCujo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.112.18 with SMTP id u18mr3989630vcp.261.1297049464775; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.175.197 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:31:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 07:01:04 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 03:31:06 -0000 Hello, I have heard that Debian project has replaced the Linux kernel in their distribution with FreeBSD kernel and have released Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. Since this version, they will release Debian GNU/kFreeBSD as a "stable" port. What is this all about? What will be consequences for FreeBSD? Will a lot of FreeBSD users move to that distribution? Good Luck Bahman Kahinpour From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 03:44:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A64106566C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4D58FC15 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so4300010wyf.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:44:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=predatorlabs.net; s=google; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6n2z+y5wh0LEWg0LUF+M1pLniu2ixNuW1MpsbYPEzvo=; b=cH/1FLGKCR1aUA0Jxeblj5WF02csf5hjGlF54uPJ9z8k0LfgP+kRJwWtE9E7wlyWNe hgsrU1vzqiRBlt+9zb2G2cp5aaw5mXz/jDSEikbm8Iz1d9fPZUPCextAXrLFJM3unxaG cGT8b5371ggPWr0Yczf6ZxBoMeRqAsRBZsdQ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=predatorlabs.net; s=google; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=BBJcnZrh/RSE7JVvvei/qq17SpRlnHozKPINoy3cBqEeUvtsr/yXXQqU0rZQjTsZc+ XAU2PpEHadhiPfzVsSUy1ZxXZVCI/93kv8NCSJFt5WxiJhDfEZgW1/fOJyrNOEzD3e4b DaTZx+LL+nxg87/bZ6zQSIee4NSvCdy2R8XeA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.173.7 with SMTP id u7mr1859270wel.50.1297050241635; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.242.130 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:44:01 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.204] In-Reply-To: References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <4D4EC7CB.7010200@computer.org> <201102061925.28021.lobo@bsd.com.br> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:44:01 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Chris Brennan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Eric Schuele Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 03:44:03 -0000 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Chris Brennan wrote: > Net, I've formatted drives as fat32 that were well over 4gb. In fact I have > an external 120gb we datavault that's fat32 > Max per file, not the whole partition. Virtual machines generally store the whole disk as a single file, though Vmware has an option to split it up for these situations. -- Rob Farmer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 04:02:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0DA1065674 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 04:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9E98FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 04:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so4595196fxm.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:02:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=fAYXqAxPaklIBPlc9NJ6mqiTG/vP+kDPB5sbbCAK7KM=; b=RrRtvrBdcnQh8YvURvsKAr6Y+3D1t4uEOGSkxFElXivtdnNcHZegV/9NDWOOoeJdRW 04V5YEh2ejFodT1oNKb/PsfMewXxZBaPJgkJoD7jhbcDAaViefb4Wps7EN2yd6606yka LPZwxK42zHuNtSVmGZjHUVpokpdt0Ag68EO/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Rhvl7qiaKdG7I84BsLNoGzb+o5fMzy74gSFw/C1h88Xn1k+KmcCJ7LMmF9tXhm8aCI 8D2px2BAq8K9Fw/1iTbqU1yywf7dABmYa+3yST02cEUdKsifNIwqIk7Sfl6uzyertlp/ A+8639gwKQ3o9xYme4CV4WstPUAcZFVOfGWEY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.1 with SMTP id k1mr3946953faq.51.1297051329844; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:02:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D4F65A2.1040802@computer.org> References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <4D4F644F.1040006@computer.org> <4D4F65A2.1040802@computer.org> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:02:09 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Eric Schuele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 04:02:11 -0000 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Eric Schuele wrote: > Ok... found the logs. :) > Looks as if each machine has 4 log files, and that the set of files is > from the last run. Anything in there I could post to help diagnose? > Let's see what's in the most recent log of an affected VM. If you have any funky options like page fusion enabled disable them. What the output of gstat(8) and top(1) look like when you reach this degraded state? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 04:38:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA441106566C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 04:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704988FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 04:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p174c4a8015670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:38:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p174c4tP030749 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:38:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p174c4WP030748; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:38:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:38:04 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Bahman Kahinpour Message-ID: <20110207043803.GA66849@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.4 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:38:05 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 04:38:08 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 07), Bahman Kahinpour said: > I have heard that Debian project has replaced the Linux kernel in > their distribution with FreeBSD kernel and have released Debian > GNU/kFreeBSD. Since this version, they will release Debian > GNU/kFreeBSD as a "stable" port. > What is this all about? What will be consequences for FreeBSD? Will a > lot of FreeBSD users move to that distribution? I expect Debian users will try GNU/kFreeBSD and like it so much they wtill switch to full FreeBSD. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 05:41:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4F6106566B for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 05:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398118FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 05:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxh35 with SMTP id 35so1671605yxh.13 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:41:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yFPCP8Pn5MK+U6W5mF7s/9/J+64Q0pQlBkYQqE4NWOw=; b=kNJkbyLgE9nWpfwdKX4RwbMrdbnR2KlO5kLLkunSKrBl9yiQdtcHmQhhwX6PF9FMty 1uDnAPvlRjPaaJEZUMvGx+SulVPhPcFTL/uCk7e32JSoq7m2fKaj0YfG3RreUl7idFYx I/bkL/mps4HfFpxK24MhLpZ4CsE9xNbQiNFgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=oenF1HUPgsOem4MOaXmwfUEPS8lvou0RNQF7ShWaBSOVtT/Us1hoAMOA7fzPwMMNuT iKym5fIX9hnaQUdnnPvTlcahqmDk4yhkCQ5jP6aPoBg0cBmVpKMbsxoODyfV54u5gPK2 eRHmRSCSHYbWBXCYpGWah7Kv0Grc9iciVyAtc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.102.129 with SMTP id d1mr29986410yhg.50.1297057265746; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.110.52 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:41:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 00:41:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Bahman Kahinpour Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 05:41:08 -0000 > I have heard that Debian project has replaced the Linux kernel in > their distribution with FreeBSD kernel and have released Debian > GNU/kFreeBSD. Since this version, they will release Debian > GNU/kFreeBSD as a "stable" port. > What is this all about? As you can see from their webpages, they replaced the Linux kernel with a patched FreeBSD 8.1 kernel, but kept most of the rest of the Debian base system and packaging system. It's for users who prefer a FreeBSD kernel, but want a Debian userland and packages, and don't have a problem with the different licenses. Gentoo has a similar project: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/fbsd/ There are also some NetBSD-base derivatives. >What will be consequences for FreeBSD? Will a > lot of FreeBSD users move to that distribution? Well, only time will tell, but I doubt that either will completely replace the other in the near future. There has already been some interaction between the two projects -- I remember a few recent changes made in FreeBSD because of feedback from Debian users and developers. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 11:53:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFC4106564A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 895D78FC1D for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2243 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2011 11:53:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (71.164.218.188) by p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.86) with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2011 11:53:48 -0000 Message-ID: <4D4FDD0D.9000602@computer.org> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 05:52:45 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090904) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <4D4EC7CB.7010200@computer.org> <201102061925.28021.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: url=http://www.ravenlock.us/keys/pub_schuele.pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig80CB2A0A19C6DFCF3FF227C2" Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:53:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig80CB2A0A19C6DFCF3FF227C2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/06/2011 21:44, Rob Farmer wrote: > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Chris Brennan wr= ote: >> Net, I've formatted drives as fat32 that were well over 4gb. In fact I= have >> an external 120gb we datavault that's fat32 >> >=20 > Max per file, not the whole partition. Virtual machines generally > store the whole disk as a single file, though Vmware has an option to > split it up for these situations. >=20 Correct. not an option here. --=20 Regards, Eric --------------enig80CB2A0A19C6DFCF3FF227C2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1P3Q0ACgkQngSDRM3IXUrWZgCg5ftVukK3ZW4rNjdSH2JKo66i Q5EAoKSCp5Yb7FKNeN+pHEVZcoTMPDgM =FaF5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig80CB2A0A19C6DFCF3FF227C2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 11:59:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6F1106566B for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62A6A8FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26355 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2011 11:59:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (71.164.218.188) by p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.82) with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2011 11:59:42 -0000 Message-ID: <4D4FDE6E.9050301@computer.org> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 05:58:38 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <4D4F644F.1040006@computer.org> <4D4F65A2.1040802@computer.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: url=http://www.ravenlock.us/keys/pub_schuele.pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8E2C84C0F03BFB8173C8FB67" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:59:43 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8E2C84C0F03BFB8173C8FB67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/06/2011 22:02, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Eric Schuele w= rote: >=20 >> Ok... found the logs. :) >> Looks as if each machine has 4 log files, and that the set of files is= >> from the last run. Anything in there I could post to help diagnose? >> >=20 > Let's see what's in the most recent log of an affected VM. If you have= any > funky options like page fusion enabled disable them. After looking in the logs I found an error. :) "AIOMgr: Error happened " This led me to an open issues in VirtualBox's bug tracker. The proposed work around is to either *enable* th "Use Host I/O cache" on your virtualized SATA disks, or just use virtualized IDE disks. I am testing this now. Will let you know how it turns out. >=20 > What the output of gstat(8) and top(1) look like when you reach this > degraded state? >=20 >=20 --=20 Regards, Eric --------------enig8E2C84C0F03BFB8173C8FB67 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1P3m4ACgkQngSDRM3IXUrqHACcCE3O9rHMTe3WMd54WrmY3fff O3AAoOMNwWJaDyQmUlcFNMFn9X4zcB9H =HKA2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8E2C84C0F03BFB8173C8FB67-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 17:03:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF441065670 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbak@inbox.lv) Received: from thor.iszerviz.hu (thor.iszerviz.hu [62.77.131.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A098FC14 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.2.2.50] (m0n0.serverbank.hu [62.77.131.200]) by thor.iszerviz.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C8AA4FEF4 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:44:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D50217A.6030700@inbox.lv> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:44:42 +0100 From: Mikael Bak User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20101027) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Follow a port of a specific major verion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:03:25 -0000 Hi list, I searched for this in the handbook, but without any hits. Google gave me nada too. I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.3 and Postfix 2.7.2 installed from ports. Unfortunately when I installed Postfix I did this: cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix make install clean Now when Postfix 2.8.0 is released the above path in the ports tree points to a Postfix version I do not yet want to install. I would like to follow Postfix 2.7.x for a while. So my question is: How can I make the ports system act as if I had installed Postfix like this?: cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix27 make install clean Is there a way to tell the ports database to "follow" and older version of Postfix without rebuild the entire port again? TIA, Mikael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 17:46:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE50106564A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22978FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5B22F18A.dip.t-dialin.net [91.34.241.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p17Hk560038197 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:46:09 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p17Hjw90093420 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:45:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p17Hjrlk080515 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:45:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201102071745.p17Hjrlk080515@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:41:05 EST." Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:45:53 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Re: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:46:14 -0000 > From: "b. f." "b. f." wrote: > > I have heard that Debian project has replaced the Linux kernel in > > their distribution with FreeBSD kernel and have released Debian > > GNU/kFreeBSD. > > Since this version, they will release Debian > > GNU/kFreeBSD as a "stable" port. > > What is this all about? http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2011/msg00001.html > As you can see from their webpages, they replaced the Linux kernel > with a patched FreeBSD 8.1 kernel, but kept most of the rest of the > Debian base system and packaging system. It's for users who prefer a > FreeBSD kernel, but want a Debian userland and packages, and don't > have a problem with the different licenses. Gentoo has a similar > project: > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/fbsd/ > > There are also some NetBSD-base derivatives. > > >What will be consequences for FreeBSD? Will a > > lot of FreeBSD users move to that distribution? > > Well, only time will tell, but I doubt that either will completely > replace the other in the near future. There has already been some > interaction between the two projects -- I remember a few recent > changes made in FreeBSD because of feedback from Debian users and > developers. > > b. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 18:02:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375B1106564A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg29.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE5C8FC14 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.85] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg29.ifdnrg.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p17I2gwT051709; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:02:43 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4D5033C1.1010604@ifdnrg.com> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:02:41 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikael Bak References: <4D50217A.6030700@inbox.lv> In-Reply-To: <4D50217A.6030700@inbox.lv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Follow a port of a specific major verion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:02:47 -0000 On 07/02/2011 16:44, Mikael Bak wrote: > So my question is: How can I make the ports system act as if I had > installed Postfix like this?: > > cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix27 > make install clean > > Is there a way to tell the ports database to "follow" and older version > of Postfix without rebuild the entire port again? > I'm pretty sure you can't do this, *unless* there's someone actually tracking a seperate port on that version. ( i didn't check but it doesn't sound like it from your post). To stop ports tree updates from clobbering your v27, you'd need to exclude this from your cvssup or whatever you use to update your tree. portdowngrade will get you back to an arbitrary older version if your tree already has the newer version. Paul. > TIA, > Mikael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07534206249 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 18:22:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F291065670 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FACC8FC18 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29660 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2011 18:22:43 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Feb 2011 18:22:43 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E9EDB50829; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:22:40 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Mikael Bak References: <4D50217A.6030700@inbox.lv> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:22:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4D50217A.6030700@inbox.lv> (Mikael Bak's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:44:42 +0100") Message-ID: <44aai7vh5b.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Follow a port of a specific major verion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:22:44 -0000 Mikael Bak writes: > Hi list, > > I searched for this in the handbook, but without any hits. Google gave > me nada too. > > I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.3 and Postfix 2.7.2 installed from > ports. Unfortunately when I installed Postfix I did this: > > cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix > make install clean > > Now when Postfix 2.8.0 is released the above path in the ports tree > points to a Postfix version I do not yet want to install. I would like > to follow Postfix 2.7.x for a while. > > So my question is: How can I make the ports system act as if I had > installed Postfix like this?: > > cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix27 > make install clean > > Is there a way to tell the ports database to "follow" and older version > of Postfix without rebuild the entire port again? You can edit the package database by hand, but it will probably take a lot less of your time to build the whole port again. [More of the computer's time, but that's generally a much cheaper resource.] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 18:36:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27A3106566C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0198FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1PmVwk-0000uQ-0N>; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:36:22 +0100 Received: from e178017134.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.17.134] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1PmVwj-0003Gz-Ts>; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:36:21 +0100 Message-ID: <4D503BA5.3040201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:36:21 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110129 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.17.134 Subject: top: where to find process state descriptions (i.e. STATE usem)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:36:23 -0000 Hello. Try to find docs about the process states shown in top, but I can't find any hint for explanations what the abbrev. do mean. I have a problem with a scientific program using OpenMP showing STATE 'usem' in top. Problem: the small program is much slower on a dual or four core CPU using OpenMP than using only a single core (single thread never show state 'usem' in top). Any help? Thanks in advance, and regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 18:40:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id CBD0F1065674; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:40:17 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20110207184017.GA34640@freebsd.org> References: <4D503BA5.3040201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D503BA5.3040201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top: where to find process state descriptions (i.e. STATE usem)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:40:17 -0000 On Mon Feb 7 11, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello. > Try to find docs about the process states shown in top, but I can't find > any hint for explanations what the abbrev. do mean. > > I have a problem with a scientific program using OpenMP showing STATE > 'usem' in top. Problem: the small program is much slower on a dual or > four core CPU using OpenMP than using only a single core (single thread > never show state 'usem' in top). i don't think the states are documented anywhere, except maybe in the source code itself. you might find this video helpful though [1]. cheers. alex [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfb5_uG7BCA > > Any help? > > Thanks in advance, and regards, > Oliver -- a13x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 18:56:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E669106566C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:56:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090B78FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24779 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2011 18:56:02 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Feb 2011 18:56:02 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E72115082A; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:56:00 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "O. Hartmann" References: <4D503BA5.3040201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:56:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4D503BA5.3040201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> (O. Hartmann's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:36:21 +0100") Message-ID: <4462svvflr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top: where to find process state descriptions (i.e. STATE usem)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:56:03 -0000 "O. Hartmann" writes: > Try to find docs about the process states shown in top, but I can't > find any hint for explanations what the abbrev. do mean. ps(1) > I have a problem with a scientific program using OpenMP showing STATE > usem' in top. Problem: the small program is much slower on a dual or > four core CPU using OpenMP than using only a single core (single > thread never show state 'usem' in top). Sorry, I've never run into that, and can't find it in the source... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 19:05:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E6A1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CD18FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p17J5LW7002787 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:05:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p17J5Lo4078954 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:05:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p17J5Luu078953; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:05:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:05:21 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20110207190521.GB66849@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4D503BA5.3040201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D503BA5.3040201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.4 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:05:21 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top: where to find process state descriptions (i.e. STATE usem)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:05:23 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 07), O. Hartmann said: > Try to find docs about the process states shown in top, but I can't find > any hint for explanations what the abbrev. do mean. > > I have a problem with a scientific program using OpenMP showing STATE > 'usem' in top. Problem: the small program is much slower on a dual or > four core CPU using OpenMP than using only a single core (single thread > never show state 'usem' in top). STATEs that aren't in caps are either wait channels or mutexes, and their initialization is scattered all over the kernel. There isn't one comprehensive index. "usem" sounds like maybe a semaphore operation? A quick grep of the kernel doesn't show any strings starting with "usem", though. Maybe if you run "procstat -k " on one of those processes you can narrow down what part of the kernel it's waiting in. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 19:12:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DEF106567A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8636F8FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so2501924ewy.13 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:12:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.119.132 with SMTP id n4mr2595001eeh.42.1297105965800; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.119.1 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:12:45 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.60] In-Reply-To: <20110206084227.639b10af.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <12dfaeab98c.2320661712861783787.-8492260798816855817@zoho.com> <20110206084227.639b10af.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:12:45 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: OpenSSH could be faster...then why don't they path it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:12:50 -0000 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Bill Moran wrote= : > Also, I'm having trouble understanding how people like that get grants > to do work like that. =A0On the one hand, they obviously know enough abou= t > cryptography to make improvements. =A0On the other hand, they can't seem > to get a grip on the fact that the code will need to have a license > before anyone can grab it and incorporate it. =A0I can't find anywhere on > that page where it tells me what terms I am allowed to use those patches > under. This seems to be a big problem with academia in general. I almost never see a piece of code associated with a research paper that has a coherent license attached to it. Often there's no license at all. I don't know if this is ignorance or if there are bureaucratic hurdles at work here. It's possible it's the latter, since universities often want to profit off of licensing the research that's done on their sites. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 19:24:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681FF106564A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1895C8FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxh35 with SMTP id 35so1958927yxh.13 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:24:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.41.17 with SMTP id t17mr15122649ybj.147.1297106691192; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:24:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j8sm3133340yha.1.2011.02.07.11.24.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B7641E54859 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:24:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:24:48 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110207142448.51007694@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <12dfaeab98c.2320661712861783787.-8492260798816855817@zoho.com> <20110206084227.639b10af.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: OpenSSH could be faster...then why don't they path it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:24:52 -0000 On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:12:45 -0800 David Brodbeck articulated: > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Bill Moran > wrote: > > Also, I'm having trouble understanding how people like that get > > grants to do work like that.  On the one hand, they obviously know > > enough about cryptography to make improvements.  On the other hand, > > they can't seem to get a grip on the fact that the code will need > > to have a license before anyone can grab it and incorporate it.  I > > can't find anywhere on that page where it tells me what terms I am > > allowed to use those patches under. > > This seems to be a big problem with academia in general. I almost > never see a piece of code associated with a research paper that has a > coherent license attached to it. Often there's no license at all. I > don't know if this is ignorance or if there are bureaucratic hurdles > at work here. It's possible it's the latter, since universities often > want to profit off of licensing the research that's done on their > sites. A university or any business for that matter certainly has the right to profit from any research or other work done on a given project if such research or work were done using the university's or business's resources. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 19:46:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F76F106566C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51AE8FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so2531655ewy.13 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:46:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.119.132 with SMTP id n4mr2640067eeh.42.1297107908395; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.119.1 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:45:07 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.60] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:45:07 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:46:24 -0000 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > I have heard that Debian project has replaced the Linux kernel in > their distribution with FreeBSD kernel and have released Debian > GNU/kFreeBSD. Since this version, they will release Debian > GNU/kFreeBSD as a "stable" port. > What is this all about? What will be consequences for FreeBSD? Will a > lot of FreeBSD users move to that distribution? Nah, no more than Nexenta (Solaris kernel + Debian userland) has caused OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana users to migrate away from that distribution. People who like a particular kernel tend to like OS's userland utilities, as well, out of habit if nothing else; the niche for these hybrid distributions is actually pretty small. They're nice if you're comfortable with the Debian userland and packaging utilities but need some feature of another OS's kernel, though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 20:56:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616EB1065675 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from x.it.okstate.edu (x.it.okstate.edu [139.78.2.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16ED18FC14 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by x.it.okstate.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p17Ku5Da097335 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:56:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201102072056.p17Ku5Da097335@x.it.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <97333.1297112165.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 14:56:05 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Using Multiple -prune directives in a find command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:56:06 -0000 Can one use the -prune directive multiple times in a find command to specify a list of directories not to descend? It would be like find . -name "*" -prune dir1 -prune dir2 -print or whatever you wanted find to do, but that does not work or I wouldn't be asking. Find appears to get confused and thinks dir1 is a command. Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 21:30:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F2F106564A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmyk777@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E258FC1A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so5304878bwz.13 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:30:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=2xIthvKBqX8uRDZw6tuvrBd91hmMxdyzThKd5fZ2d+A=; b=nRCpxgYgUjLukZDcTkjl0QyAgdtaVK582LZaMYqel0/EU96ZXDGE0h/NM4DB3YAtmX 68t++t46FiAQ5tnMPS57/55c/ncBM46jB2GFwqiiM4v58ENKYDhDBwCVogQKmaqDKGhf Y46fFXkAN3RJiVw+3nnQagAQ7uBYYt2Vy8zns= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=CNdPkvXyJ4LjoX5oOWKaBfQXyPgionlFSIQEJZC/leXRMMI0KJf//QIJH/mAcfZOQ5 4AW0ZPUo9v32OIWHWIO+LoND0DBrn43QQ9supGiumf0hbOSfsyqxu8rTEfUTaL2Mldg3 LRku3PaxjqP7zo46jKzY1BRXSBqwouOSQEyII= Received: by 10.204.77.196 with SMTP id h4mr16291704bkk.89.1297112521622; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:02:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.231.132 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:01:41 -0800 (PST) From: Igor Prokopenkov Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:01:41 +0200 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to count number of connections from nginx workers to php-cgi unix socket? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:30:30 -0000 I need to count number of connections to php's cgi unix socket (created with spawn-fci). When nginx initiates a connection to cgi socket one of spawned php processes accepts this connection, processes input and outputs data. But number of processes is limited and i want to be able to monitor amount of free processes. I tried all available tools (netstat, sockstat even lsof) but it seems there is no way to determine how many active connections from nginx to unix socket. Please advise. -- Best regards, Igor Prokopenkov Zend Certificied Engineer http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND010909 http://linkedin.com/in/igorprokopenkov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 21:38:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709FD106566C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A3F8FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:38:46 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-18.01 64bit (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LG90057BO4LD340@asmtp027.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:38:46 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-07_06:2011-02-07, 2011-02-07, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102070113 From: Chuck Swiger X-Priority: Medium In-reply-to: <12dfa77447c.7163284093726025667.-8541699583891767164@zoho.com> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:38:45 -0800 Message-id: References: <12dfa77447c.7163284093726025667.-8541699583891767164@zoho.com> To: kellyremo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: "https is faster on amd64?" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:38:46 -0000 On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:14 AM, kellyremo wrote: > http://devcentral.f5.com/weblogs/macvittie/archive/2011/01/31/dispelling-the-new-ssl-myth.aspx > > according to the "SSL Performance" table it says that the transactions per second is 2-3 times better using 64bit kernels opposite to 32bit kernels? > > is this true, or i am just misunderstanding something Sort of, although you're partially misunderstanding something. SSL cryptography, like most highly math-intensive workloads, can be performed more efficiently in 64-bit architectures than in 32-bit architectures. However, SSL is almost always done in userland processes and not in the kernel. You don't have to run a 64-bit kernel to run 64-bit userland apps (on some systems, anyway), much as 64-bit kernels support running 32-bit processes as well as running 64-bit userland processes. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 23:21:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1C3106564A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690278FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:21:32 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuEFAN8NUE3Unw4S/2dsb2JhbACXCo4cc7k9hVoE Received: from outmx06.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2011 23:21:22 +0000 Received: from helix.plus.com ([84.92.153.232] helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PmaOY-00082r-D7; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:21:22 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PmaOX-0001jY-2X; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:21:21 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:21:20 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <201102072056.p17Ku5Da097335@x.it.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <201102072056.p17Ku5Da097335@x.it.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201102072321.21035.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Using Multiple -prune directives in a find command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:21:32 -0000 On Monday 07 February 2011, Martin McCormick wrote: > Can one use the -prune directive multiple times in a > find command to specify a list of directories not to descend? > > It would be like > > find . -name "*" -prune dir1 -prune dir2 -print > > or whatever you wanted find to do, but that does not work or I > wouldn't be asking. Find appears to get confused and thinks dir1 > is a command. find . -type d -name dir1 -prune -o -name dir2 -prune -o -name \* ... should list all files except those in dir1 or dir2 -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 23:51:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB0C106564A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327E28FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 54DC4E804BE; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:51:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:51:46 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Bahman Kahinpour Message-ID: <20110207235146.GA9689@thought.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:51:48 -0000 On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 07:01:04AM +0330, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > Hello, > I have heard that Debian project has replaced the Linux kernel in > their distribution with FreeBSD kernel and have released Debian > GNU/kFreeBSD. Since this version, they will release Debian > GNU/kFreeBSD as a "stable" port. > What is this all about? What will be consequences for FreeBSD? Will a > lot of FreeBSD users move to that distribution? > Good Luck > Bahman Kahinpour Yes! Dreams do come true .... or maybe just partly. Years ago, like late 1990's or very early 2000's, there was an effort to use the strengths of both operating systems: the unsurpassed stability of BSD along with the goodies you find in Linux. I mostly did cheerleading but when things stalled I got busy porting the FBSD libc. I was about 17% done w hen I stopped this Debian FreeBSD. You can google around and find stuff about the project. { Begin slight diversion:: IIRC, the main point of contention involved the differences between the GNU CopyLeft and the freerer BSD Copyright. For [at least one] of my projects, muuz, I even invented my own copyright. And then there are many, many other means of sharing stuff. My electronic novel, altho copyright by the Lib of Congress does not have any Digital *Wrongs* Management. ---That's my tiny contribution. So you can buy one copy of JOURNEY/DAWN for $9.47 and share it around the way I share my boughten books and music CD's and DVD's. End slight diversion; } I haven't heard anything about somebody picking up the idea on integrating Debian Linux and FreeBSD, so unless Zeus stabbed hisself in the back while about to hurl a lightening bolt, don't worry. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 00:06:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30271065795 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing@alokat.org) Received: from smtp.alokat.org (smtp.alokat.org [46.4.186.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D948FC1B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.alokat.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.alokat.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B74211250097 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:06:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.24.23] (188-192-38-254-dynip.superkabel.de [188.192.38.254]) by smtp.alokat.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1049A11250096 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:06:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:06:47 +0100 From: Alokat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101226 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 00:06:52 -0000 Hi, if I use the *halt* command I just see "the system is halted press any key to reboot" How can I fix this? * Halt* should cut off my laptop. Regards, alokat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 00:10:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A571065696 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing@alokat.org) Received: from smtp.alokat.org (smtp.alokat.org [46.4.186.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6538FC1F for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.alokat.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.alokat.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424D711250097 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:10:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.24.23] (188-192-38-254-dynip.superkabel.de [188.192.38.254]) by smtp.alokat.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 276D211250096 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:10:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D508A03.2020401@alokat.org> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:10:43 +0100 From: Alokat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101226 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: some problems with vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 00:10:48 -0000 Hi, I have some problems by using vim. arrow up prints a B arrow down prints a C ... How can I fix this? Regards, alokat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 00:15:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 519A8106567A; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:15:17 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: Alokat Message-ID: <20110208001517.GA72767@freebsd.org> References: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 00:15:17 -0000 On Tue Feb 8 11, Alokat wrote: > Hi, > > if I use the *halt* command I just see "the system is halted press any > key to reboot" > How can I fix this? > * > Halt* should cut off my laptop. try 'shutdown -p now' > > Regards, > alokat -- a13x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 00:22:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793CD106566C for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF268FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.82.228.121] (port=50780) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmbLN-0004WY-SB; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:22:11 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: Alokat In-Reply-To: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> References: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> Organization: VICOR, Inc. Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:22:10 -0800 Message-ID: <1297124530.2564.5.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-Scan-Signature: a6125d8dcff2d8a03039cda37295d2ff X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 00:22:12 -0000 On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 01:06 +0100, Alokat wrote: > Hi, > > if I use the *halt* command I just see "the system is halted press any > key to reboot" > How can I fix this? halt -p NOTE: May require ACPI support loaded into the kernel. -- Devin > * > Halt* should cut off my laptop. > > Regards, > alokat > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 00:25:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06D8106566B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99968FC15 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.82.228.121] (port=50801) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmbOm-0004Y6-1z; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:25:41 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: Alokat In-Reply-To: <4D508A03.2020401@alokat.org> References: <4D508A03.2020401@alokat.org> Organization: VICOR, Inc. Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:25:40 -0800 Message-ID: <1297124740.2564.6.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-Scan-Signature: 08c45bf8e3928faec3d57d321ab3d095 X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: some problems with vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 00:25:42 -0000 On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 01:10 +0100, Alokat wrote: > Hi, > > I have some problems by using vim. > > arrow up prints a B > arrow down prints a C > ... > > How can I fix this? Try adding to ~/.vimrc set t_ku=^[[1;2B set t_kd=^[[1;2C You didn't mention what left/right do. But here's a guess: set t_kr=^[[1;2A set t_kl=^[[1;2D NOTE: You'll have to re-launch vim after creating ~/.vimrc Alternatively, this may be an artifact of an incorrectly-set TERM variable... try (if you're using csh or tcsh): setenv TERM vt100 (or if you're using sh or bash): export TERM=vt100 NOTE: you'll have to re-launch vim after changing TERM -- Devin > > Regards, > alokat > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 00:26:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E46B1065675 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2228FC1B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so5245567iyb.13 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:26:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=2u0Q54CnAJtwLeB5Hw7FPpCG8F0x+LkLjIg1SuDYDTg=; b=gVxsUYndFELI6HBrOKK/ZG98CCzQqKDzE6p1QQL42CEWP0hDEucaIh4z25o5QCVaxx /2DIOyjql12ae1k+TCe+rzQZFjrj09iSXYMCk1OMYzLU66m6mVDEXvJoC2bo4ofo27yM f/p0TLxiyT1k7+kRxtFAzbK5KFkThw6jg5fiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=pX1D1ysvICtgG/J3dlpT1YglIHPdHq7qQxVhFYHBb7w0Bpb4Qw8/t7mqiPKvutOJok SpIVX7HGuAlB3qf4ycf+tuK2yciBo9yjgOy7J5uhJVBFqaZCTgaNAvWn7RK5F3ReJRp4 9w8rX5az1vOlgNnXOdb44TUFfp25ZN7ieQKds= Received: by 10.42.179.3 with SMTP id bo3mr377627icb.385.1297124780988; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:26:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.183.134 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:26:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1297124530.2564.5.camel@dt.vicor.com> References: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> <1297124530.2564.5.camel@dt.vicor.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:26:00 -0500 Message-ID: To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Alokat , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 00:26:22 -0000 >> if I use the *halt* command I just see "the system is halted press any >> key to reboot" >> How can I fix this? shutdown -p now don't use halt directly -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 00:48:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EE31065670 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA61F8FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.82.228.121] (port=50890) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmbkP-0004gC-BT; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:48:03 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: Alokat In-Reply-To: <1297124740.2564.6.camel@dt.vicor.com> References: <4D508A03.2020401@alokat.org> <1297124740.2564.6.camel@dt.vicor.com> Organization: VICOR, Inc. Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:48:02 -0800 Message-ID: <1297126082.2564.7.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-Scan-Signature: 1bbfa7f3c4a0998f607da70c36bf0330 X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: some problems with vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 00:48:03 -0000 On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 16:25 -0800, Devin Teske wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 01:10 +0100, Alokat wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have some problems by using vim. > > > > arrow up prints a B > > arrow down prints a C > > ... > > > > How can I fix this? > > > Try adding to ~/.vimrc > > set t_ku=^[[1;2B > set t_kd=^[[1;2C > Minor note (hit send after forgetting the pit-fall many fall into): ^[ above is a single character produced by the two keystrokes: Control+V followed by Control+[ NOTE: Or, you can use... Control+V followed by Escape -- Devin > You didn't mention what left/right do. But here's a guess: > > set t_kr=^[[1;2A > set t_kl=^[[1;2D > > NOTE: You'll have to re-launch vim after creating ~/.vimrc > > Alternatively, this may be an artifact of an incorrectly-set TERM > variable... > > try (if you're using csh or tcsh): > > setenv TERM vt100 > > (or if you're using sh or bash): > > export TERM=vt100 > > NOTE: you'll have to re-launch vim after changing TERM > -- > Devin > > > > > > > Regards, > > alokat > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 01:13:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32080106566C for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E6C8FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.82.228.121] (port=50984) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pmc8g-0004ny-Ni; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:13:08 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: Eitan Adler In-Reply-To: References: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> <1297124530.2564.5.camel@dt.vicor.com> Organization: VICOR, Inc. Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:13:07 -0800 Message-ID: <1297127587.2564.8.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-Scan-Signature: 070ad4a06cbcf57376ca67789415d671 X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Alokat , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:13:09 -0000 On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:26 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> if I use the *halt* command I just see "the system is halted press any > >> key to reboot" > >> How can I fix this? > > shutdown -p now > don't use halt directly > There's no technical reason to avoid using halt directly other than the fact that shutdown sends a message to connected users while halt does not. -- Devin P.S. I welcome the rebuttle as a learning experience if the above is not 100% accurate and true (but be-warned... I went around the office polling _really_ old UNIX hands before making the above statement). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 01:38:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968B11065693 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA5C8FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.82.228.121] (port=51070) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmcXZ-0004vE-Nl; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:38:53 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: References: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> <1297124530.2564.5.camel@dt.vicor.com> <1297127587.2564.8.camel@dt.vicor.com> Organization: VICOR, Inc. Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:38:50 -0800 Message-ID: <1297129130.2564.10.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-Scan-Signature: addf82e302fb7b54175bfd27340b229c X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Eitan Adler , Alokat , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:38:54 -0000 On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:26 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Devin Teske wrote: > > There's no technical reason to avoid using halt directly other > than the > fact that shutdown sends a message to connected users while > halt does > not. > -- > Devin > > P.S. I welcome the rebuttle as a learning experience if the > above is not > 100% accurate and true (but be-warned... I went around the > office > polling _really_ old UNIX hands before making the above > statement). > > > I used to believe that until I was shown I was wrong. The easiest way > to see you're wrong is to drop to ttyv0 then do one of each like a > reboot then a shutdown -r now. In the latter case, you'll > notice /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ stop scripts being > processed but not so in the former. In both types of shutdowns, > everything *should* exit cleanly but processes are terminated with > different signals and certain types of applications really need the > full rc stop script to end cleanly like HAST and CARP for example. > > shutdown -r/p is a really good habit to form. > > FWIW, someone also stated reboot on Linux behaves like shutdown -r now > so that I sure contributes to the confusion. Thank you very much for the explanation! Yes, I (we) had completely forgotten about the shutdown scripts. Of course, many of us still remember the days when it standard fare to "sync; sync; halt". -- Devin > > > > -- > Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 01:46:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC601065675 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mailoutltc.fnis.com (mailoutltc.fnis.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442788FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:46:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SBHFISLREXT03 ([10.132.254.62]) by SCSFISLTC01 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p181kCY5012841 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:46:12 -0600 Received: from sbhfisltcgw02.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.122]) by SBHFISLREXT03 with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:46:14 -0600 Received: from SBHFISLTCGW07.FNFIS.COM ([10.132.248.135]) by sbhfisltcgw02.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:46:12 -0600 Received: from lefty.vicor.com ([10.132.254.135]) by SBHFISLTCGW07.FNFIS.COM over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:46:11 -0600 Message-ID: <4D50A063.6090406@fisglobal.com> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:46:11 -0800 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101222 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> <1297124530.2564.5.camel@dt.vicor.com> <1297127587.2564.8.camel@dt.vicor.com> <1297129130.2564.10.camel@dt.vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <1297129130.2564.10.camel@dt.vicor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2011 01:46:11.0772 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6C67FC0:01CBC731] Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:46:41 -0000 Allow me to split hairs here. I was taught "sync;sync;sync;halt". One for the father, one for the son, one for the holy spirit. This, of course, in the days when I/O was slow enough that sync didn't have time to finish before the halt, so doing it three times ensured your file system shut down cleanly. Dave On 02/07/11 17:38, Devin Teske wrote: > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:26 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Devin Teske wrote: >> >> There's no technical reason to avoid using halt directly other >> than the >> fact that shutdown sends a message to connected users while >> halt does >> not. >> -- >> Devin >> >> P.S. I welcome the rebuttle as a learning experience if the >> above is not >> 100% accurate and true (but be-warned... I went around the >> office >> polling _really_ old UNIX hands before making the above >> statement). >> >> >> I used to believe that until I was shown I was wrong. The easiest way >> to see you're wrong is to drop to ttyv0 then do one of each like a >> reboot then a shutdown -r now. In the latter case, you'll >> notice /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ stop scripts being >> processed but not so in the former. In both types of shutdowns, >> everything *should* exit cleanly but processes are terminated with >> different signals and certain types of applications really need the >> full rc stop script to end cleanly like HAST and CARP for example. >> >> shutdown -r/p is a really good habit to form. >> >> FWIW, someone also stated reboot on Linux behaves like shutdown -r now >> so that I sure contributes to the confusion. > > Thank you very much for the explanation! > > Yes, I (we) had completely forgotten about the shutdown scripts. > > Of course, many of us still remember the days when it standard fare to > "sync; sync; halt". > -- > Devin > > > >> >> >> -- >> Adam Vande More > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. 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Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 01:46:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94462106566B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536678FC1F for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548DA24B7A; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 02:46:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p181kpBD001507; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 02:46:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 02:46:51 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Devin Teske Message-Id: <20110208024651.1346bf84.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1297129130.2564.10.camel@dt.vicor.com> References: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> <1297124530.2564.5.camel@dt.vicor.com> <1297127587.2564.8.camel@dt.vicor.com> <1297129130.2564.10.camel@dt.vicor.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:46:54 -0000 On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:38:50 -0800, Devin Teske wrote: > Of course, many of us still remember the days when it standard fare to > "sync; sync; halt". Erm... what about "sync; sync; init 0"? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 01:50:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EE4106564A for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0628FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so5799387fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:50:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Rke6N2VBWw9grw0+L5tjMOBOqfdgj95yU7cBfnDZs48=; b=QFpB7keYOQwN2vTIzq2xR7X3YJiq1TbNpRQFhR8tdqheRcFsddAUIq9UkwTXX4Week /f8Jp9xtoMgitonYYFmAjvIWiI6+Nbs9SkdpWEPXT3ikERi6NvQ0WpLRDXRpua3Ei3Ju 3sOcSKbgEgUE/z6M//t5v3+hrc+HhyaYyQtqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=F1RIPFKbK4pr2gOfNawQIdOeGdEXYGRTiYabi690mpRVn+NumMy/I8KI1PgHFqwGml ks+qY4XBY2GRJD1l/nxzYwmmdB8pqbgaXSYGiEuXBeYv1g10x1TAVKnila9f1TbVfpB3 tpkjm1ch7ZaPN3VqSVLyOQ7OeV0CUKwdV3ds4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.1 with SMTP id k1mr5395123faq.51.1297128377419; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:26:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1297127587.2564.8.camel@dt.vicor.com> References: <4D508917.3000202@alokat.org> <1297124530.2564.5.camel@dt.vicor.com> <1297127587.2564.8.camel@dt.vicor.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:26:17 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Eitan Adler , Alokat , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:50:34 -0000 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Devin Teske wrote: > There's no technical reason to avoid using halt directly other than the > fact that shutdown sends a message to connected users while halt does > not. > -- > Devin > > P.S. I welcome the rebuttle as a learning experience if the above is not > 100% accurate and true (but be-warned... I went around the office > polling _really_ old UNIX hands before making the above statement). > I used to believe that until I was shown I was wrong. The easiest way to see you're wrong is to drop to ttyv0 then do one of each like a reboot then a shutdown -r now. In the latter case, you'll notice /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ stop scripts being processed but not so in the former. In both types of shutdowns, everything *should* exit cleanly but processes are terminated with different signals and certain types of applications really need the full rc stop script to end cleanly like HAST and CARP for example. shutdown -r/p is a really good habit to form. FWIW, someone also stated reboot on Linux behaves like shutdown -r now so that I sure contributes to the confusion. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 02:38:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B634D106566B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 02:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coco@executive-computing.de) Received: from mail.moehre.org (mail.moehre.org [195.96.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CF08FC15 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 02:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.moehre.org (unknown [195.96.35.7]) by mail.moehre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645FA8B143B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:22:39 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.962 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.962 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, AWL=0.038, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=disabled Received: from mail.moehre.org ([195.96.35.7]) by mail.moehre.org (mail.moehre.org [195.96.35.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zGKQQ1Zemsrg for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:22:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.100.35] (p54B0DF5B.dip.t-dialin.net [84.176.223.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: coco@executive-computing.de) by mail.moehre.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 728348B141B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:22:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D50A840.8010803@executive-computing.de> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 03:19:44 +0100 From: Marco Steinbach User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Terminal Server/BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 02:38:25 -0000 Hi there, I'm trying to break a FreeBSD/i386 machine into the debugger via serial console connected to an older Avocent CPS 1600 serial terminal server. I'm using cu on another FreeBSD/i386 machine to connect to one of the other serial ports of the Avocent. The CPS offers a "port break" command for creating a break condition on an attached serial port, but that doesn't trigger anything on the receiving FreeBSD machine. Using a direct serial connection (just 2x3, GND) between the machines works, though. I realize this being quite a long shot -- Someone ever used such a box successfuly for the purpose ? MfG CoCo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 03:13:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EB4106564A for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from smtpauth04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FC078FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21211 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2011 03:13:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (71.164.218.188) by smtpauth04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.95) with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2011 03:13:07 -0000 Message-ID: <4D50B485.1040007@computer.org> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:12:05 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4D4DF58D.2040506@computer.org> <4D4F644F.1040006@computer.org> <4D4F65A2.1040802@computer.org> <4D4FDE6E.9050301@computer.org> In-Reply-To: <4D4FDE6E.9050301@computer.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: url=http://www.ravenlock.us/keys/pub_schuele.pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC2BF84D3522D5654A9A0D23E" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze... [Solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 03:13:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC2BF84D3522D5654A9A0D23E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/07/2011 05:58, Eric Schuele wrote: > On 02/06/2011 22:02, Adam Vande More wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Eric Schuele = wrote: >> >>> Ok... found the logs. :) >>> Looks as if each machine has 4 log files, and that the set of files i= s >>> from the last run. Anything in there I could post to help diagnose? >>> >> Let's see what's in the most recent log of an affected VM. If you hav= e any >> funky options like page fusion enabled disable them. >=20 > After looking in the logs I found an error. :) > "AIOMgr: Error happened " >=20 > This led me to an open issues in VirtualBox's bug tracker. The propose= d > work around is to either *enable* th "Use Host I/O cache" on your > virtualized SATA disks, or just use virtualized IDE disks. I am testin= g > this now. >=20 > Will let you know how it turns out. Thanks guys! I've had my VMs running longer this evening than before. I'm gonna call this one fixed. For the archives, here is the VirtualBox bug report I was referring to that mentions the host I/O cache. http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/7363 Thanks. >=20 >> What the output of gstat(8) and top(1) look like when you reach this >> degraded state? >> >> >=20 >=20 --=20 Regards, Eric --------------enigC2BF84D3522D5654A9A0D23E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1QtIUACgkQngSDRM3IXUpCaACeNRCYCinHTjR/mE+58nuR3GAj G58AnRChNACtCBz+9f7iwP66+Iyov3jQ =f5PX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC2BF84D3522D5654A9A0D23E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 03:21:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1771106566B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0013eb39ed=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513428FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47073 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2011 02:54:51 -0000 Received: from mail1.iecc.com (64.57.183.56) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2011 02:54:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=5e5b.4d50b07b.k1102; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=H6plITNe+tvtbj76fc4wlGkQzhcWh1wfCexQ8d867bQ=; b=lnKImPQn935eqPj1LFc981hHLKnyw01/ky3MGMUr2ar1CSvXgrLWoYZvSZLr6c2aINxHhNfOsuI6LGOQdpfJ4+l4I2eT/SJNF/APnx6usY7lAo4nvVcQVgxw4MQImk3ufaihh2D6Uuu/NLqYivslm2+8lpaIxEysb4DTZBMRnFk= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 8 Feb 2011 02:54:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20110208025451.24154.qmail@joyce.lan> From: John Levine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: amvandemore@gmail.com Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 03:21:34 -0000 >I used to believe that until I was shown I was wrong. The easiest way to >see you're wrong is to drop to ttyv0 then do one of each like a reboot then >a shutdown -r now. In the latter case, you'll notice /etc/rc.d/ and >/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ stop scripts being processed but not so in the former. Uh, no. shutdown or halt signals init, and init runs /etc/rc.shutdown which runs all the shutdown scripts. The only extra work that shutdown does is to blat lots of warnings onto the ttys. Read the man pages for shutdown, halt, and init if you believe otherwise. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 03:24:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71804106566B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C138FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so5877263fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:24:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=w7a3UNwp+tSqCjMU9UpsvdJJOrTbloFRxMup58Z0Wzk=; b=UwNsqX+A8hCb4nD4e4u7viO8ny5QhdLBRoRsg3Tt9Jr4wniGeKL6PGZ6YYbGdircqc VNwnEpsgER49KeDbrevzcW9txi3pXyauejyF/NU8esT14FvF2Hheiey4v841/QnL5Cb8 6FqSWbMnOuwLReLpCnI2EWtA3QvbvHeZNWvcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wXF2TeBJ+ZaU06emc6obtCMBUXAyWoBvCr66TtCCUv/2N/2zvfbF+pI+A0pc2Q5NpL v+aZenKVkWF4HIgiBRmgK8IndGH0PbVRUDF1gNFoMiQhjh4diKtgSEeHy2Qn4Ag2H1O5 p2S9T13lAxEHVe53lH0kNwvOLW1RoYcQ18HfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.106.129 with SMTP id x1mr893004fao.13.1297135471011; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:24:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110208025451.24154.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <20110208025451.24154.qmail@joyce.lan> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:24:30 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: John Levine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 03:24:34 -0000 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:54 PM, John Levine wrote: > >I used to believe that until I was shown I was wrong. The easiest way to > >see you're wrong is to drop to ttyv0 then do one of each like a reboot > then > >a shutdown -r now. In the latter case, you'll notice /etc/rc.d/ and > >/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ stop scripts being processed but not so in the > former. > > Uh, no. shutdown or halt signals init, and init runs /etc/rc.shutdown > which runs all the shutdown scripts. The only extra work that > shutdown does is to blat lots of warnings onto the ttys. > > Read the man pages for shutdown, halt, and init if you believe otherwise. > Yes please do so as that's not what it says at all although I think could certainly be a worded better. It's quite easy to see you're wrong, just follow the steps I outlined above. If you are correct, reboot(8) should print things like: Stopping sshd. to the console. It doesn't and shutdown(8) does so the proof is right there. The reboot man page only hints at it though unfortunately which caused my initial confusion(in addition to the permissions mismatch between the two). Normally, the shutdown(8) utility is used when the system needs to be halted or restarted, giving users advance warning of their impending doom and cleanly terminating specific programs. You can also reference init.c if you still think you're correct. In addition, please read carefully through this thread and then examine your arguments vs what is reality and then we can all be on the same page. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-December/060519.html -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 03:31:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91076106566C for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0013eb39ed=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDFD8FC19 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 53620 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2011 03:31:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=d173.4d50b908.k1102; i=johnl@submit.iecc.com; bh=FGsWiIl5PNqJbkTwRXWl2xgmyxFH4ck3sizDiaynSEA=; b=UmX+9f0IkVyLZIv6swub/hyJIFD5qqmdCTsqjINoAj2aBBaPpUMJvlCZwH5kCHBeIXDB0ooTORTyjQN2x2C7WePMGGcj/YcDeRFSZ1qYvHGUZhQOURn1mrDSz8wdgqDB66+z2QtiTVMCPJ6pO1dZuFYRld8fnTW190xr/Dr327I= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd johnl@64.57.183.62) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 8 Feb 2011 03:30:58 -0000 Date: 7 Feb 2011 22:31:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Adam Vande More" In-Reply-To: References: <20110208025451.24154.qmail@joyce.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 03:31:24 -0000 > It's quite easy to see you're wrong, just follow the steps I outlined > above. If you are correct, reboot(8) should print things like: > > Stopping sshd. > > to the console. Sigh. I shut down my FreeBSD 8.1 laptop all the time with halt -p, and I can assure you it prints all those messages. > You can also reference init.c if you still think you're correct. No thanks, I've already read the man page for init, including this paragraph: When shutting down the machine, init will try to run the /etc/rc.shutdown script. This script can be used to cleanly terminate specific programs such as innd (the InterNetNews server). If this script does not termi- nate within 120 seconds, init will terminate it. The timeout can be con- figured via the sysctl(8) variable kern.init_shutdown_timeout. If you're unfamiliar with rc.shutdown, it also has a man page. Perhaps your copy of FreeBSD was installed incorrectly, or it's been so long since you tried halt or reboot that you forgot what happened. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 04:19:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3763F106566C for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 04:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8208FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 04:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so5913079fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:19:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TUQMYIwa/KAoGgHFLigitsjMuLX5C1ErMj+Lgq8zVIE=; b=OAQzdNlMFfvPat65S7GhGFygQaug9McoTjBIKocIhfcdxyVkfRTf/ZuPbaxRdhAdJ/ 9fdDzXjfdq7mmOHnhRdCSbJFO5uYw/BYfYdWgwUdIbTTsao88xxBMTTYOV3p7XGhYe+0 we2rwkmzH2BLhf6XhOpaWTRT7wTCQKSla+0Bk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=giFMBHf20Z7wUoaT2dnxRB9ddpI5VHZ3zjWXop6dQHBW0Ee+rs49AcYpTTejv5WWYu 6avfE86ag13b1Qk/wJUkd3O+Edu1zcxyXY4IsOBQPltUKfK8QWBllNvia3x8ErOEzQcE tRljDVAZX0j1/x+4qPVJY/z2PQxX2hDEJEq7g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.86.135 with SMTP id s7mr15926041fal.70.1297138788630; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:19:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20110208025451.24154.qmail@joyce.lan> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:19:48 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: "John R. Levine" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 04:19:50 -0000 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:31 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > It's quite easy to see you're wrong, just follow the steps I outlined >> above. If you are correct, reboot(8) should print things like: >> >> Stopping sshd. >> >> to the console. >> > > Sigh. I shut down my FreeBSD 8.1 laptop all the time with halt -p, and I > can assure you it prints all those messages. Are you hitting the bottle hard tonight? It does no such thing. You can also reference init.c if you still think you're correct. > No thanks, I've already read the man page for init, including this > paragraph: > > When shutting down the machine, init will try to run the > /etc/rc.shutdown > script. This script can be used to cleanly terminate specific programs > such as innd (the InterNetNews server). If this script does not termi- > nate within 120 seconds, init will terminate it. The timeout can be > con- > figured via the sysctl(8) variable kern.init_shutdown_timeout. > Exactly, reboot(8) doesn't call init, shutdown(8) does. See reboot.c, shutdown.c -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 04:22:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E936C106566B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 04:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7998A8FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 04:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so5406429wwf.31 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:22:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=predatorlabs.net; s=google; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uXQ9ijr1FzXhVgjPPZjd7TJ3u5eaDYydYNlm7wQ7db8=; b=P3JDqC54Mw4aGUXJXYKc/UV8qaavA054cviWyVOfjtNouW/amji8HfM4KhK9ngMUxw L+0mzuzErVQ17Rr5p/cMNDNrjvtaSln6wnaoYdKh+a8fzwCdkvQ21JnzukRgCLxreRwA G3bVhJL9q5OFZZRfdUHNM/gX4Nrk+AkgFH3EI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=predatorlabs.net; s=google; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XbV6lkCbkhT4LUBqv6BtWcAKf6V7F5ywtx23OV8WfL9WYIYO35TdzxjFYUtAY9mOGF S8ZHDH9c3lkhdT9PfQP46la+GqYqV1SsuvSJtIwZt/8HafvGQ11Idn4g5y+LxsBu4sNG Lpa6Ph/HRzA8VynQNg9OlprVmpissDLSm/v5M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.179.207 with SMTP id h57mr15225784wem.20.1297138937669; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.242.130 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:22:17 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.83] In-Reply-To: References: <20110208025451.24154.qmail@joyce.lan> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:22:17 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: "John R. Levine" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Adam Vande More , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 04:22:20 -0000 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:31 PM, John R. Levine wrote: >> It's quite easy to see you're wrong, just follow the steps I outlined >> above. =A0If you are correct, reboot(8) should print things like: >> >> Stopping sshd. >> >> to the console. > > Sigh. =A0I shut down my FreeBSD 8.1 laptop all the time with halt -p, and= I > can assure you it prints all those messages. > Well, that's not what everyone else sees. >> You can also reference init.c if you still think you're correct. > > No thanks, I've already read the man page for init, including this > paragraph: > That man page hasn't been more than minorly tweaked in over 10 years, according to cvsweb. > Perhaps your copy of FreeBSD was installed incorrectly, or it's been > so long since you tried halt or reboot that you forgot what happened. > Just did - it kills all process and moves to the syncing disks stage. Nothing rc related is touched. --=20 Rob Farmer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 06:11:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262A5106566C for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 06:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0013eb39ed=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA35C8FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 06:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 83074 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2011 06:11:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=14481.4d50de76.k1102; i=johnl@submit.iecc.com; bh=jbMz1oTttbGYqf5z3Cge1UM3NxJFCs9iuYgdD+GWhUc=; b=QrlIIeJDPO5R9JvVNY8sOxlCOwttBP5k2yvFujDtNG176SXe6gY1SRFkeP3FnmEnfbCjjdgUwK13tSQI4x5uJ5CrlsXGCdm0UeiNH1Y4pauJoQ7ZhsOOJBzCnCW+HMEFw19xHijZ6+d6ga5X5ZV6zjqukl+SoAwfmbemW2jU/qw= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd johnl@64.57.183.62) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 8 Feb 2011 06:10:40 -0000 Date: 8 Feb 2011 01:11:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Rob Farmer" In-Reply-To: References: <20110208025451.24154.qmail@joyce.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Adam Vande More , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown computer after the halt command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 06:11:04 -0000 Hmmn, I looked at the code and by golly you're right, halt/reboot doesn't poke init. Nonetheless, I really do see a lot of "foo stopping" messages when I use halt, presumably because the SIGTERM that halt/reboot sends has the same effect (if not the same ordering) as the ones that the various rc.d scripts send. Looks like "init 0" would be tidier than halt -p, and in the finest Unix tradition, is one less character to type. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 07:55:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E0F106566B for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 07:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A218FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 07:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so5613384wyf.13 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:55:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/NnmENBQz+9KNz4SIH4RwoESeRyRIZszEBAxVNKrdJA=; b=AUqonl1q+C/QbFUgDAIyuFckogtRXCR7rl7zVTXPdmMFtOiOe4PFoN08eh4Nrrb1kq rl6iFRlhyQKVLKBuev0weMk80DBK6w7b3zhLd4HBgpuN5hFT4pfIYC5NKKUoiRrmFqdX EAaItLnlZf9G3iyseS3YVhX03xhAcYOcBzCW4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ATaGguZ94liUzjKV5vXGRtTjderJYGWN1PV/4btKb7jz4i7qtyofujfMbzKtXb2SaJ 9MW7Uq+vFtC8RnG/RHZljUvZlKyNL5j1vMM2gwFV3SVQ0UagEM+lk03RgI0z5p+lRWVS SG8jOE2PhFgX0ZvOhtCn4LyBghTaav7OLvrsw= Received: by 10.227.145.143 with SMTP id d15mr17178280wbv.91.1297151756174; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (wifi-osiris-sec-181-149.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.181.149]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm4151584wbd.22.2011.02.07.23.55.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:55:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D50F6F8.6070100@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 08:55:36 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110125 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: VESA and SDL in tty terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 07:55:57 -0000 Hello, The SDL's pkg-message says we can use video driver in tty terminal. To do this you have to load the vesa kernel module or enable it in your kernel, and set environment variable "SDL_VIDEODRIVER=vgl". I tried it with mplayer : $ SDL_VIDEODRIVER=vgl; export SDL_VIDEODRIVER $ mplayer -vo sdl And that's what happened : AVI file format detected. [aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0 [aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1 [aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 2 VIDEO: [XVID] 656x368 12bpp 25.000 fps 854.5 kbps (104.3 kbyte/s) Clip info: Software: VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 (build 2178/release) [VO_SDL] Using driver: vgl. vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()! Opening video filter: [scale] ========================================================================== Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family Selected video codec: [ffodivx] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4) ========================================================================== ========================================================================== Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 192.0 kbit/12.50% (ratio: 24000->192000) Selected audio codec: [ffac3] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AC-3) ========================================================================== AO: [oss] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Starting playback... Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect. [swscaler @ 0xc6d2e0]using unscaled yuv420p -> yuv420p special converter VO: [sdl] 656x368 => 656x368 Planar YV12 [VO_SDL] Set_fullmode: SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Unable to switch to requested mode. [VO_SDL] Failed to set video mode: Unable to switch to requested mode. FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver. Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect. VO: [sdl] 656x368 => 656x368 Planar YV12 [message repeated a lot of time] Do you have any idea? I of course compiled my kernel with the following options : options VESA options X86BIOS options SC_PIXEL_MODE and my terminal is set to the mode 496 (0x1f0) 0x0000001f G 1366x768x32 D 8x16 0xa0000 64k 64k 0xc0000000 4128k Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 10:33:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C419106564A for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbak@inbox.lv) Received: from thor.iszerviz.hu (thor.iszerviz.hu [62.77.131.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED088FC3D for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.2.2.50] (m0n0.serverbank.hu [62.77.131.200]) by thor.iszerviz.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D051F4FEB3; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 11:33:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D511C0D.2000100@inbox.lv> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:33:49 +0100 From: Mikael Bak User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20101027) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Macdonald References: <4D50217A.6030700@inbox.lv> <4D5033C1.1010604@ifdnrg.com> In-Reply-To: <4D5033C1.1010604@ifdnrg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Follow a port of a specific major verion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:33:56 -0000 Hi Paul, Paul Macdonald wrote: > On 07/02/2011 16:44, Mikael Bak wrote: >> So my question is: How can I make the ports system act as if I had >> installed Postfix like this?: >> >> cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix27 >> make install clean >> >> Is there a way to tell the ports database to "follow" and older version >> of Postfix without rebuild the entire port again? >> > > I'm pretty sure you can't do this, *unless* there's someone actually > tracking a seperate port on that version. ( i didn't check but it > doesn't sound like it from your post). > > To stop ports tree updates from clobbering your v27, you'd need to > exclude this from your cvssup or whatever you use to update your tree. > > portdowngrade will get you back to an arbitrary older version if your > tree already has the newer version. > I realize I perhaps should have told you how I keep my ports tree up-to-date. I have this in my /etc/crontab # Update Portsnap INDEX 0 3 * * * root portsnap -I cron update && pkg_version -vIl '<' This sends me an email if a port has been updated. If I want to upgrade my ports I do: # portsnap fetch update # portmaster -aD && portmaster --clean-distfiles-all This is why I *need* to tell my ports database to use/track an earlier version of Postfix (in this case /usr/ports/mail/postfix27). After reading the description of portdowngrade I don't think that's the tool I want. Correct me if I'm wrong. > Paul. > TIA, Mikael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 10:39:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C071065672 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbak@inbox.lv) Received: from thor.iszerviz.hu (thor.iszerviz.hu [62.77.131.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88B28FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.2.2.50] (m0n0.serverbank.hu [62.77.131.200]) by thor.iszerviz.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DCF244FEB3 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 11:39:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D511D49.4010704@inbox.lv> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:39:05 +0100 From: Mikael Bak User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20101027) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D50217A.6030700@inbox.lv> <44aai7vh5b.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44aai7vh5b.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Follow a port of a specific major verion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:39:07 -0000 Hi Lowell, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Mikael Bak writes: > >> Hi list, >> >> I searched for this in the handbook, but without any hits. Google gave >> me nada too. >> >> I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.3 and Postfix 2.7.2 installed from >> ports. Unfortunately when I installed Postfix I did this: >> >> cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix >> make install clean >> >> Now when Postfix 2.8.0 is released the above path in the ports tree >> points to a Postfix version I do not yet want to install. I would like >> to follow Postfix 2.7.x for a while. >> >> So my question is: How can I make the ports system act as if I had >> installed Postfix like this?: >> >> cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix27 >> make install clean >> >> Is there a way to tell the ports database to "follow" and older version >> of Postfix without rebuild the entire port again? > > You can edit the package database by hand, but it will probably take a > lot less of your time to build the whole port again. [More of the > computer's time, but that's generally a much cheaper resource.] > Thanks for the info. I was not aware I could just install the same software over the other without first removing it. Shouldn't I do that? I would not want to end up with a broken software or a broken ports database. If I would set my mind on editing the ports database by hand, where should I look for it? TIA, Mikael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 10:48:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C26B106566C for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg29.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2798FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.85] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg29.ifdnrg.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p18Am9tF078635; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:48:10 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4D511F67.1000909@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:48:07 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikael Bak References: <4D50217A.6030700@inbox.lv> <4D5033C1.1010604@ifdnrg.com> <4D511C0D.2000100@inbox.lv> In-Reply-To: <4D511C0D.2000100@inbox.lv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Follow a port of a specific major verion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:48:13 -0000 On 08/02/2011 10:33, Mikael Bak wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Paul Macdonald wrote: >> On 07/02/2011 16:44, Mikael Bak wrote: >>> So my question is: How can I make the ports system act as if I had >>> installed Postfix like this?: >>> >>> cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix27 >>> make install clean >>> >>> Is there a way to tell the ports database to "follow" and older version >>> of Postfix without rebuild the entire port again? >>> >> I'm pretty sure you can't do this, *unless* there's someone actually >> tracking a seperate port on that version. ( i didn't check but it >> doesn't sound like it from your post). >> Aplogies, i'd misread your question, and there is a seperate branch in /usr/ports/mail/postfix27, I'm not sure how you'd fool the ports mgt tools in the way you want, would it not be easier just to deinstall the port and do a make install in postfix27? (others may know a 'better' way) Paul. ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting -------------------------