From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 15:16:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66651065673 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5808FC1B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou5D3-0007b1-6k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:08:14 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:16:51 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:16:51 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:16:56 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Friday, 10 September 2010: > >>>>> "Mark" =3D=3D Mark Sommer writes: >=20 > Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. > Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across > Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. > Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. >=20 > Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) >=20 > There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern > cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. >=20 > Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until > then, we're stuck with Flash. >=20 > We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good > JavaScript. >=20 > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. >=20 Perhaps someone could provide specific use cases for which Java is the only good solution? I don't have Flash installed on my browser, and what I lack from that is evident. I have yet to miss Java in any way. What problems would it solve for people that can't be solved using a different approach? --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMikviAAoJEIpckszW26+RFA4H/RwhWNK05fFchMUBhqfH6Ya+ M4BpXg0N9lgTZ0+bCb+BQC8cZw7s9D2vKmgcguaH2UDWVh5CzfJX/gc0ZNWV2T8S 3LD+0AYOduaskyBZHzkXfTkl01U26ILykeJEE5nEa92HKVb8AiNk61pV+ip3EVKP ciFjEu1/1pHiLPwchqX/PHC0RQ+F/Pb/j8hBRctPO9Ag7PqZHzD01e1db5JD0u2A zs/G2WPbjg/ubhRB44KMu1PYFJw5IihtMGDMjqBTpBjP7k6rGFwkY/SRO+nAgFme dDXIOoK9GHSXUd+AmE7yPMBCLegcbNeTmowxvMbmQfWlDgQwu+9gHXzV42e/wLI= =VqNg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz--